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I don't have dog mode. I don't know. Yeah, well, what am I going to do? Take I'm going to Tom Thumb. You can stand the heat.


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When we talk about Kamala Harris, we're going to be talking about a whole lot of things, folks. My half Asian lawyer, Bill Richman, is here. How are you? Oh, Reg the Bandit, our wonderful researcher here. He scares me. Good to be here. Black good. How are you, sir? And Audio Wade is there and Tolkan Allen, but he's not talking to us.


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Yes, we were going to do it every night of the week, but that would be three or four hours.


And you would just see an actual news, not like a fake NASCAR news, but you would just pretty much pull like, yeah, you just see my legs hanging and also gasoline dripping with a lit match for safety because it wouldn't be one of those cries for help.


It would be. And to me, nobody wants that.


No, nobody wants. Well, you know, I could question let me ask you this is obviously what everyone is talking about. Kamala Harris, Joe Biden's VP choice.


Do you think it helps or hurts Joe Biden's chances? And then as far as it relates to Kamala Harris of all of her sins, what do you think is the most egregious? Let us start I want to know your opinions. And you know what? The comment section has been become pretty good up to the change of mind. Yeah, a lot of discussion around what do you get a bad morning there? I had a bad morning.


Yeah, well, my mom saw the news about Komala. Oh, really? And she was like, not not a doctor. I went to a public school.


And you weren't even the first half Asian to make it on the presidency or vice president. I mean, you know what? She Southasian.


She is half Asian. Yeah. I'd say giving a bad name to half Asians, but we'll see how it bears out.


You know, it's funny when you think Harris, you don't think half Asian. Yeah, that's true. Neither do I. With Richmond. Yeah, I was going to say Richmond. Does that just bring. I had no idea you were Asian until I first met you.


I was.


Oh, and I know looking back, I know that he knew what was going on. I was like, what's that?


I don't know Bill. I am really leaning all the time. All the time.


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You give me the stale bread. We can't we don't have the digestive track for biscotti. We're going to go to come up.


But first, before we talk about Kamala Harris, of course, the man who picked Kamala Harris, former vice president, that's a scary phrase.


Joseph Biden this week in Biden go.


You know the, you know thing poor kids are just as bright and just as Towne's white kid. If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump and you ain't. OK, so this is the guy who picked the half Asian lady as his vice presidential candidate, and I don't know if you noticed, when I tune in half, Asian Bill looks very cross.


Let's give him let's reset his mood. Let's see what's going on on CNN. Look at Sanjay. Is that Sanjay Gupta? Look at him with the. Yes, the the early 90s hockey cut. I was going to say he is hockey. Yeah, he has the Marty McSorley.


He has the enforcer for four Los Angeles Kings, Wayne Gretzky haircut. You know, that's a virtue signalling haircut because he won't go get his haircut right.


On a social distancing, like, come on, he could get he could get his dame to grab a pair of clippers.


And I recommend you do, Gupta.


But instead, he said, you know what? I'm gonna let everyone, the whole world will see my neck hair mullet. And it's not even a good mullet. It's just a lazy mullet.


And you're a doctor and you're a doctor. Sanjay Gupta, it's probably unhygienic. It is. You know, it's growing in that thing. Hmm.


I don't know if he's I assume he's not actually practicing as most of these doctors on CNN. So he's probably avoided most of the microbes.


But a doctor should have his hair short. And if they have to do it at Shake Shack, have to wear a hairnet.


I'm not having that guy perform an operation on me. I wouldn't trust him. All right. Let's see what they're talking about.


Sanctions, mask, mandate, hand hygiene, sanctions. Just go back to school. The physical distancing as much as possible, which is probably the biggest challenges, biggest times they've even gone through the process of getting kids and faculty tested. The real problem here about the real problem where we live at this point, we live in an area where there is considerable viral spread. As I've looked at the data from around the world in terms of how kids transmit the virus, I've become increasingly convinced that kids really of any age can spread this virus.


OK, you live right. That's enough.


This is the problem that they're talking about. Notice they focus now on kids can spread the virus. Well, yeah, initially they talked about a crazy death rate. We said, well, actually, it's probably a lot lower because a lot of people are asymptomatic. More people have the virus than we realize.


And now they're going to get more people who kids, good people have the virus than we realize.


But if kid spreads it to kid B and neither one of them have any symptoms or a problem. And in the state, I believe, was it in New York, Donald Trump spoke about this. Only one person under the age of 18 died and they had diabetes. If none of them are, very few of them have ill effects. That is something that you take into consideration when shutting down the economy for their entire generation to come. No one's saying the kids can't get it.


We're saying that kids, by and large and I know this could be removed from Facebook and Twitter like the president most of the time, virtually almost all are asymptomatic and they're fine.


Now, if you want to say that those kids shouldn't come home because they might give Mr. Mollet doctor the virus himself and it could then fine. Fine. Just say it's about you. It's not about the kids. It's about you. This is about you. You don't want to send your kids to school because you don't want the sniffles. Dr. Sanjay Gupta, you want to continue on down the mullet trail so you can show everyone how good of a nonpracticing doctor you are.


Looking at the data, by the way, what's the same guy who looked at the data from the Imperial College of London?


Yeah. So it was like he vetted it and then brought it onto the show and he told Poppy and all his friends about it. I mean, think about it. Here's the person. Ask the question. You go from the next part. Right. OK, kids are going to get it, OK? So if kids can spread it. Oh, well, first of all, you're five months behind on understanding that Ebola is spread the disease.


All right, fine.


OK, so so then what is at the end of the OK, kids can spread it. So we should never go back to school. Right, because kids can spread. Oh, wow. There's also this new thing. It's called the flu. Right.


Kids can die from that. Right. I mean, and so and so that's where you get through the arguments. You just get to a certain point and then they're like, and if you say anything bad, you're a terrible person. You want to kill grandma? No. What is the actual reality? OK, if you are living at home with your grandparents, right. Maybe you need to figure out a way to isolate or maybe you have unless your grandmother is.


Well, then then maybe maybe that's a different consideration. Yeah.


Grandma, look, wet socks. Oh, smell them. Get a good inhale. Wet socks. I think that's probably the most. I'm not a doctor. I would imagine it would be an effective spread of bacteria.


That's true. Dr. Murrelet. I'm going back to the to the after the shower, my socks.


It's traumatic experience.


This is true. There really are only two options at this point, OK? And this is based on the data and this is based on the opinions of everyone at CNN and everyone on the left and including Dr. Fauci, the only points of view that you can have is this is a virus right now, disease that will be among us.


And we have to learn how to deal with it and move forward or shut everything down forever because a temporary shutdown isn't going to stop. Once you open back up, it's still there. It's not entirely gone. You look at Sweden, they're they're mostly passed at this point. Who knows? They could have another blip seemed that they may have reached some kind of immunity. We don't know. We thought herd immunity would be 70 percent. Seems it may be lower for this virus right now.


It's a novel virus. We don't know a whole lot about it, but we do know the irreparable damage. We've done to the economy, so why are we not talking about this a bunch, because what is there left to say, OK, open up and let people live their lives, let people make a living or shut down forever? I don't think you're not if you believe either. I just think that you're misinformed on the data and you should probably shave your neck hairs and there is no standard.


So it's like if if the standard is nobody else is getting it, there are zero cases, zero deaths. Is that is that when school can start back up online and start back up. Yeah.


They don't use that word when public school teachers stop being lazy pricks while claiming to be heroes. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm so tired of the New York teachers unions are dragging out your calendar. They're dragging out caskets like they're the undertaker in a coffin match in the mid 1990s with JOP.


Yeah, this is ridiculous.


They're going out there and we don't want to go back and unsafe conditions and die three months off isn't enough yet. Listen, OK, how about this? We're all in this together. Are you guys taking a pay cut? Are teachers going to not be paid? Because this is something if we're going to play identity politics, we're going to separate one by race, gender, OK, gender, sex. I have to separate the two now. Even apparently means the same thing on a government ID.


They screwed that one up.


But if we're going to separate everyone that way, there is a group of people here who are more harmed than other groups, and that is business owners. That is people who don't receive a paycheck as an employee, that is independent contractors.


Teachers aren't affected by that. Most union members aren't affected by that. Most employees aren't affected by that. So if we're all in this together and we see all of these signs, well, know, does it affect everybody equally? Just like the virus itself doesn't affect children the same way it affects grandma. Know that statistically, verifiably false. Does this pandemic shutting down of businesses affect everyone equally?


What are you giving up? Public school teachers? Yeah, and alumni sanity. Because my students are my life.


Well, then go back to them now that I'm confused.


But most of the time, if people are losing their jobs, they're also losing their health plans, losing their only means of actually paying for any kind of treatment. So they're so people are worse off with no jobs and the coronavirus and you're left to try and go.


See, you just made an argument for socialized health care. No, you, Dick, we're talking about people being allowed to live their lives and be autonomous at this point.


So the solution is it's a total shutdown. People lost their health care plan. Let's give people more health care plan. Let's give them universal basic income. Teachers don't want to go back. Let's give them an extra stipend because three months off isn't enough with an average salary of seventy something thousand dollars a year plus bennies. This it's just more money, more money, more money, more money. We've spent trillions of dollars. We don't have the money.


And we're going to have less money because people aren't going to be able to pay taxes. So that's why we don't talk about it anymore.


And, you know, what you never hear about are the number of teachers you have to really dig or you have to go actually talk to individuals, which is hard right now under the restrictions.


When you talk to teachers who go, look, look, I've always know everyone knows that it's a petri dish like, yeah, certainly there's more of a risk in certain teachers may have a particular problem if they live with someone or if they themselves are particularly susceptible because they have a preexisting condition. Those are case by case basis. And these teachers are going, yeah, I absolutely want to go back to work. And you know what? A lot of them say the reason why they want to do it, these teachers who are not getting a voice right now is because they want their students to learn, because they know that the socialization, they know that the person teaching is what's needed and they know that.


How is our mom and dad going to go back to work?


Yeah, if it's about the children, if it's about the children, if it really is. And I'm not saying that no teachers, of course, go in because they want to serve. Of course, plenty of them do, but not everyone.


And I would be willing to bet not the teachers who are out there dragging coffins down Fifth Avenue and aren't supporting robust home schooling system.


If it's not, the children say, OK, shut down and let's help support parents so that they can homeschool their children.


And then let's find, you know, instead of just going, I don't want to go back, I don't want to work. And it's done, isn't it? Play out. I don't give a shit. OK, this is your job. You have to go back to your job. And if you're doing it for the children, then right now do it for the children. If not, don't consider yourself a front line hero.


We had people getting into the trenches in D Day and you won't go back to teach children right now at a point where, again, we're talking about a zero point three percent death rate, which if I said this only a few months ago, banned, banned because rate that is now accurate.


But Dr. Sanjay Gupta was citing the Imperial College study, which he's a doctor doesn't think trust the experts.


All right. Well, I don't know who's an expert. How doctors. Dr. Mollet, he seems like an expert. Oh, he's citing that. He said in that study, two million people. That seems to check out. I understand that there are people who are more knowledgeable and you need to trust experts.


But at what point do you say, OK, all of the experts who we trusted got these predictions verifiably wrong and the crazy militiamen, hooligans who said it would be more comparable to the flu, then the four, three to seven percent death rate, they were right.


So at a certain point, when experts cease to give expert advice, they cease to be valuable. Dr. Fauci, AIDS, when you look back at that and how how. Many people are going to get that and that pandemic not saying AIDS didn't exist, just like I'm not saying the coronavirus doesn't exist, the AIDS epidemic, as it would affect all demographics, was absolutely a hoax, was it?


Oprah Winfrey said one in three heterosexual couples, one in five, let's say one in ten, let's say zero percent would have been an exaggeration.


Winfrey and I use Winfrey because I'm not going to be your first name because you put that stupid little oh in all your magazines. And guess who's going to be on the cover this month?


Who is going to be Oprah? Exciting said I'm going to get that. Oh, my God. But what pose, though, got to find her. What is the post? If only I could understand her plight.


OK, speaking of plight, let's go to the biracial.


I always have to check my shirt, just like Joe Biden to check his notes. You found this when he was announcing. I think we have an overlay announced Senator Kamala Harris for vice president. He had to have a script and a giant picture of her face.


You see, the only thing missing is a giant yellow. Bring that back up is a giant yellow arrow says don't say Tulsi.


There's so much going on in that picture.


You know, you have I can't quite make out. He's holding the phone upside down. He's talking. Who is he talking to? Her on the phone and zoom. I'm not exactly sure he has it. Even if you look at the little comic he has on his desk, I don't know if we have this. I think I sent it earlier, zoomed in example of it. But whether or not you can see it, it's a hanger that horrible and it's him saying, yelling at the heavens, why me?


And then this voice comes back and says, why not you?


Right. And so I really feel like that's a cry for help like this.


Like that. I'm like, why do you please not that subtle.


He's like, I don't know what to do. I can't really say that I have a problem because I can't speak. Right. Right. I'll just let her go to the horrible seat. And because of because of all the facelift, he can't blink more.


So he's just like me. Who? I can't do it. Oh, poor guy. It's unfortunate. It's kind of like the Parlamento at this point, almost.


You know, he's just trying to escape, which, by the way, there's a special feature on the DVD Memento.


You can watch it backwards. It plays in chronological order. Nolan makes it. All right. So let's get some facts as to why Kamala Harris is just the worst vice presidential candidate I know, Stephen.


Well, I'm going to talk about the facts because all that matters is that she is a posse. That's right.


That's all that's right. We're hearing that is a fact. Literally the identity. I do respect entity merits. Yes. No, after all, let's go through the merits, because here's the thing. I when we talk about common ground and I don't think you need to find common ground on a lie, I think that there's right and there's wrong. And very often that's found maybe somewhere in the middle, but sometimes it's not found in the middle at all.


However, today we can find common ground.


To use my half terms on this post, Kamala Harris, because everyone should unilaterally dislike her.


I will give you a reason as to why the left will despise her, or at least they should, if they're being consistent right now with these riots, less peaceful protests and of course, the right should not be happy or I don't think we'll be very happy. So The New York Times wrote that she was a pragmatic moderate.


So that would seem like, OK. All right. Kamala Harris, she's a pragmatic moderate. And we'll get to her criminal justice history, which is really to the right of Rudy Giuliani. And maybe that's what they were doing to tip the scales. But on everything else, what do we have here?


Obviously, universal health care she supported after birth abortion. I know you might think. Well, that's actually some. We're exaggerating. Sure. No, no, no. It's not just north in blackface.


It, too, is Kamala Harris, who supports abortion, the green new deal she supported.


Keep in mind, there was a five page bill with sweeping legislation said and also the justice for all people against fracking, of course.


And she co-sponsored a bill to force schools to let transgender athletes compete in women's sports.


She was actually ranked from guvs track, the furthest left Democrat candidate that there is.


Wow. So that's one thing. They're going to try and say that she's moderate, which will this is the beauty of the left today. They are stuck between a rock and a hard place.


If someone says, well, actually, she's pretty moderate, we don't want it.


So they were saying yesterday, right before Joe Biden announced that, they said if you do not bring in a APOs candidate, then you are going to lose the the posse.


The posse. Yoshie likes hound dog whistle.


I wasn't sure what I said, but I think what you were getting to is what I meant to say.


Yes, I know exactly what you did say. We can rewind the tape.


They said that he would lose the ethnic vote, the minority vote.


They didn't just say black vote. They said he would lose the person of color.


But keep in mind, that's what they were saying about Joe Biden saying, look, the woman, it wouldn't be enough. Then he picked Kamala Harris.


And then when you see the media going, actually, she's a pragmatic moderate, the left goes, we don't want moderate, we want radical change for reference to into the Young Turks at any single point in their channel or John Oliver.


And then the problem is now and we understand what she's actually about.


Everyone else in the country is going to say, we don't we don't want it, so there's no winning right now at this point. I'm just wondering if Joe Biden will even make it to November.


Speaking of whom, let's actually kind of the only highlights people forget this during the debates. Kamala Harris, we when we watch those debates is how much she drank her milk the night she came in ready to fight. She only really went after Tulsi Gabbard a little bit, but it didn't work. But one night she came out and went after Joe Biden hard.


So the vice presidential candidate, let's see her thoughts on the guy at the top.


But I also believe and it is personal and I was actually very it was hurtful to hear you talk about the reputations of two United States senators who built their reputations and career on the segregation of race in this country. What am I going to do? And he's like, how sad should I look? But to work with, of course, busing. And, you know, there was a little girl in California who was part of the second class to integrate her public schools, and she was bused to school every day.


And that little girl was me.


Let me leave them. And I gave this double cross and then being able to tell their story and research, do it. Do you believe that the vice president should enter this race? Oh, I think he's going to make that decision from himself. I wouldn't tell what to do. Well, you might want to think about trying. Point you might want to stick your arm in there, sweetheart.


Just pull one from the Jamaican plantation where your ancestors owned slaves. We'll get to that in a second.


They tried to robota like, oh, son of a bitch. It's the Horace's who go jump in this late. So basically, she thinks that there's a difference between just saying, I don't agree with this person's policies.


And now running on the ticket with someone who you've basically said, I believe the women have accused him of sexual assault and he supported segregation. This is my guy. Yeah. It's like, you know what? I'm going to be on the ticket with a rapist, Jim Crow. That's my guy. By her own words. How how does she do this?


At least Donald Trump had the foresight at this point, even though he needed to kind of unify the party with just him and Ted Cruz left. You know, that was an option for vice president.


Right. But he's about it. You know, I think it might be a sore spot that I said his dad killed JFK and called his wife a pig. Let's put it in a cabinet position and I'll pick somebody else. I know what the friction. Would you say his dad killed JFK? I didn't say this. What people told me. There's no going back for that.


So now we have Kamala Harris and Joe Biden. What is that room going to be like?


I don't think it's a problem. You really don't know? I really don't, because Biden doesn't remember any of us. They literally were like, oh, no, no, no, no, no.


That was that was Kenny Harris. Totally.


Well, good enough for me. Yeah. He probably didn't say that. He just went back to playing Angry Birds. Well, we don't have time for this because we got to make sure we we that we we we win the caucus in Iowa.


Oh, I think he's that far off.


That's the thing. Like when you go back to Dan Quayle and George W. Bush, you know, like he choked on a pretzel, which is hilarious.


That can happen to the best of us not forgetting where you are and naming naming trips that you made pretty you never met in places that don't even exist.


It really is a climate of good stories, though. And I have a theory on that. Yeah, he's a he's a he tells his tall tales. I have a story I'm going to get to in a second. I want see if anyone else here agrees. But first, do hit the notification bill if you're on YouTube because the subscriptions don't mean a whole lot anymore and you find out exactly when the stream is, which is of course, Monday through Thursday every morning.


And we'll be doing the live streams as we have Democratic convention town halls, not debate. So it will likely be Anderson Cooper talking with a bunch of people who grew up in a school shooting from six years ago, and they'll just somehow tell the presidency.


But we'll be here to stream it anyway with the NRA. That's a quality programming you can expect here a few years. Another fast fact.


What's not really a fast fact, it's just it's just a fact. She is the descendant of slave owners.


Come all here. So here's the thing that's awkward. It is all I mean, now I'm arresting read this morning.


I said, can we verify this? And I went to Snopes and Snopes. You know, they really want to say false, though.


Yeah. And they said unverified. Well, do you think they would apply that same standard to someone else if it was, let's say Donald Trump's father wrote in twenty eighteen an op ed bragging that he was a slave owner? I have a quote right here. My roots go back within my lifetime to my paternal grandmother, Miss Quraishi, Kristina Brown, descendant of Hamilton Brown, who is on record as plantation and slave owner and founder of Brownstown. That's almost as bad as white settlement.


Yes. Which is an actual city. He was out there bragging about it, the dad about slavery. So can we verify it? Not exactly. But we know that Kamala Harris hasn't denied it. And even Snopes is like your guess is as good as mine.


Well, I don't know. Is your guess as good as her dad? I'm willing to bet she did a twenty three and me and


So he's proud. She's proud of it and loves it.


I think about this for a second when I accuse people of being tone deaf.


Because you're white man. A black man from Jamaica. Wow. Bragging about a town named after his slave owner in a plantation. I mean, you just think you just think like someone might have told anyone proofread this like, oh, you know what?


Hey, you know what, mister? You might want to highlighted some portions in red. That's the best part about this subservience. And yeah, I work so hard. That's what we want also that I did the Tanqueray commercial.


That's now let's just not do that because they no longer want to be associated with this. So here is something that is important to me. What we look at everything through the lens of identity politics. Kamala Harris, obviously, she's a wealthy person. She was raped. She Jamaica. Right. Slaveowner. That's the ancestry.


So are we going to argue that Kamala Harris coming here to the United States has faced the same kind of discrimination or systemic racism that African-Americans are claiming and expecting today?


And here's also the problem with that. Let's take it a step further, because they say you have white privilege, you have, well, really Asian privilege not to.


That's a thing because of Harvard. And this just does. We're better. Yeah, that is. It's genetics. Everyone gets uncomfortable when you say genetics and you talk about how Asians are better, but they do better, right? I mean, they're taking over a bunch onto the economy. There's like 19 billion of them. I don't know why, but your people are fertile.


Bill, you look at them wrong, they get pregnant.


So you want to say that a lady who came from Jamaica, the descendant of slave owners, has it worse off than, let's say, someone from West Virginia who is not the descendant of slave owners who was raised in poverty? You know what? Let's I'll use myself as a very specific example, because we assume that all white Americans are the beneficiaries of slavery. Right. And to some degree or another. And that black people today, today in 2020 are somehow still feeling those systemic effects.


And that may be true in some scenarios. In my case, I was raised in Montreal, Canada. So on my dad's lineage, I don't know exactly if there are any slave owners. Don't think there were, because we go all the way back on my dad's side to French people. Jack Carter, who discovered Canada on my mom's side. Absolutely not. So I was raised in French Canada as an English speaking Canadian. Look up the language police and the language laws in Quebec.


I couldn't open up a diner, Stevens Apostrophe Diner, because I would be against the laws because it's written in English. I had to go to all French schools until the fourth grade.


They thought I might be retarded. Turns out after when they switched me over to an English school, I was still retarded.


But the point remains. But you were with your people. I was. Well, let's be careful. Especially we bridge genetics and people don't about French, Canadians, English. So I was raised in a family where my parents shopped at Goodwell Salvation Army. None of us benefited from slavery in any way. And I was in a province in a country.


This is the problem with multiculturalism, where there was no systemic legal discrimination against people who were English speakers, regardless as to whether they were born in Quebec or not. You could be born in Quebec, your parents could be English and born in Quebec, yet you still faced systemic discrimination.


Then I moved to the United States, lived in eighty two Dotson. And finally we have this show here. And you know what? I wouldn't say dreams come true, but good enough.


Yeah. And you still retain Comolli. Yeah, exactly. You know, I'm on the spectrum and so I want to be an inspiration to people out there who need a way to blanket and thunderstorms. Look, this could all be yours. So compare my upbringing with Kamala Harris and you want to say that I need to check my white privilege.


She I'm a direct descendant of slavery. They brag about it. This is the problem that happens. And this is why you're going to see more racism in the United States. And I'm really scared about it.


I really am genuinely frightened that you're going to see a lot of young Americans in a similar scenario, people who have not seen a leg up, who have who have been told that they need to be guilty, that they need to be silent, sit down, shut up and listen. Then they're browbeaten. And then someone like Kamala Harris comes in and talks about how hard she has it when there is verifiable proof that she benefited from slavery. And kind of like the Lolo Jones, Kamala Harris could use it both ways.


Dye her hair blonde. You're none the wiser. You being Indonesian.


I don't know. Anyone can bring that. Lolo Jones at the Olympics. She was at the biracial athlete and I just watched a recent documentary. She was like hair brown and people. Oh, I guess she's biracial now. She. There you go. There's Lolo Jones Olympics. Now, let's look at Lolo Jones today. I don't know if we can find a picture of a little Jones today. She looks like she's picking up a pumpkin spice latte.


And my point is that's. That's right. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Totally different person for her play both sides of that coin. Kamala Harris could do the same thing to use it. All right. Here's another issue.


As a prosecutor, we're talking about Black Lives Matter in the riots, the violent riots, she kept inmates jailed for longer to use them as cheap labor.


She supported the death penalty, which may surprise people.


And she incarcerated over 500 people for marijuana offenses. So we're talking about moving the needle forward for the potheads who just want to get blitzed.


She, too, is not your candidate.


Can you guys explain to this this to people who may not be up on the the nastiness of the the prison sentences? Yeah, I mean, I think that the basic scenario there was that nonviolent offenders were supposed to be eligible for parole after serving half their sentence. Right. Because you've got crowded prisons, etc. and she wanted to keep him in to use for cheap labor.


So essentially another form of another form of slavery, right? Yeah, you might say, yeah, she's she's continuing the tradition.


She goes to groups of people. I mean, what's what's interesting about that is that traditionally you're going to see, at least even with Trump, you've seen a lot of attacks about him being the Law and Order president and kind of, you know, doing not not that actually. What's funny is he even he doesn't do that. Right? Right. He's not, though.


He did the was it the what was your name. Alice Marie Johnson. Yeah. And then his his first step act was actually one of the first steps towards changing the laws on harsh sentences for nonviolent offenders. Right.


But at that time, if the laws were the laws, the judges need to do what they need do the only one who really had a lot of discretion, certainly judges had some with regards to evidence or sentencing, but it came down to the prosecutors. It came down right to the district attorney for the city of San Francisco and what they were doing and how they decided to not only. Bring cases, but what sentences they were asking for and what they were doing on the back end when it came time for parole, you cannot lay this at the feet at anyone other than Kamala Harris.


And I don't know, maybe maybe they just thought, hey, you know, we do actually have to show that we're tough.


I mean, certainly not. Push up. Punch out. McGee, over here. Biden, you know, you got you got to actually have someone who talking about it. But what the problem is, I don't think they realize that a lot of folks really don't want that. It's clouded their message.


I don't know how that flew in San Francisco, how she basically extended prisoner sentences to use cheap labor and also put a nonviolent pot users. How did that happen at all? Did she just like just because she was dating Willie Brown? Did she just sort of slide in under the radar? What happened there? Who was she banging to make nonviolent drug offenders end up in prison in San Francisco? You could smoke a joint at the in the foyer of the police precinct in San Francisco.


And not I mean, not even no one would bat an eye.


Now, granted, you have that little hole in your mask and some kind of a suctions would create some kind of a positive pressure environment.


But the point remains, smoking weed in San Francisco and shit on the lawns.


And what has anyone heard? I haven't seen him.


I've been trying to look around, but like her explanation for she said she didn't know that was her explanation, but she didn't know that one. Yeah. She still with that one.


Yeah, well, I had no idea. I had no idea.


Just like I had no idea that I owe reparations to the guy who was locked up for a bag of weed as well as the ambassador for Red Stripe.


I didn't know that I had harmed these many people, even though it was written about national op ads from my dad.


Hey, by the way, Dad, if you're listening, shut up.


Please stop talking. You know, I think you know what?


We should just go should go on a track record question. Right. And if you don't know what's going on for keeping people in prison in your small one city legal department, what we should definitely do is just let you be in charge of the country. Yeah, yeah.


Who would have thought that the bi racial black Asian American prostitutes, Bill Stern, Kamala Harris would be running, right?


She would be she would be the lady who was locking up nonviolent black offenders and extending their sentences running against Donald Trump, who actually commuted sentences and introduce legislation that eases penalties on nonviolent drug offenders, despite the fact that he's a teetotaller who would have thought that the most moderate Democrat that we have, according The New York Times, actually is to the right of Attila the Hun when it comes to criminal justice, though, of course, she's changed that now because she listened to some Tupac at a time before he was born.


Yeah, because little we don't forget about that. Yes. I spoke a little earlier.


It really was it rolled by a slave? No, no. That's called a prison. That's a prison. That is that is probably the most like the lack of self-awareness for her to talk about and clearly what was a lie. But to even lie about doing something that is the same type of offense of the people she was making serve a lot of that beyond what they were normally serving. No good.


She didn't create the laws. The laws were what the laws were. But she was the one that had a power to make a difference. And so even folks on the left like your own, you know, let's let's think about this. Let's look past the color rainbow and figure out what about the merits.


Right. You know, and I know I'm so pissed about this.


I mean, I'll shut up after this point. I don't want your show.


Whenever you get a candidate of color from the right, they never want to talk about it.


They're it's just, you know, whether it's Bobby Jindal when he was in Louisiana or Herman Cain or any of it's how it goes from either. Right. Ben Carson. It's either your Uncle Tom or. Oh, suddenly everyone's colorblind. Yeah.


Oh, no. Well, we we can look past just the race. Let's talk about what he actually said. Right.


And if we're going to bother if you're going to list accomplishments, because I do understand that there obviously can be landmarks, you know, with black people.


OK, when you look at Robinson, number forty three, look at the first black person before that, they were watching all white humanity.


How boring it must have been to watch sports when it was all white people.


Think about them. All of a sudden the world records were just shattered. It wasn't even close. Any sport that involves fast twitch muscle fibres, it was like, I don't know, we thought Babe Ruth was the guy. You see what happened?


That guy was spitting out Beechnut and then going out there and hitting homers and you wouldn't even be able to hit a strike.


So anyway, that's the point.


There are landmarks. I understand it. The first black president. I would agree.


And I even thought when that happened, the one good thing to maybe come from Barack Obama, you know, socialism notwithstanding, is, OK, first black president maybe will have some healing. So I think there's some validity to say certain.


The first black president happened. Right. The exact opposite happened. It happened. It was under Barack Obama that we ended up with Black Lives Matter and more racial divide than ever before. And that's what actually caused Donald Trump to ascend to office. But you're still trying the same playbook.


I hope you like twenty twenty. And what what is remarkable to me is everything on CNN or the radio. NPR this morning marking history, the first person of color to. Be nominated as a female vice presidential candidate, right, the first female of color nominated for vice president. We had a black president. OK, a half black VP, by the way. We've already had female VP nominated. We had a female nominated for the presidency, half black female nominee.


OK, you're going to put that up as though it's more history making than the black guy. And by the way, not kind of black when I'm playing for the B team. He wasn't a benchwarmer. You're talking about the guy who was raised in Detroit to a single mother household, tried to stab her, but hit her belt buckle and was the first man to separate conjoined twins at the brain. And you can you can shimmy black in there, the first black man to separate joint twins at the brain.


We just skip to the same time because she has a vagina and a little more melanin, which to quote, Nick Cannon gives her a soul. I don't know if you know this. All of us end up in a never ending purgatory unless we're black, according to Nick Cannon. My point is, if we're going to talk about historical landmarks, it does need to be applied equally. And yes, Herman Cain, of course, Condoleezza Rice, Colin Powell.


But to me, Dr. Ben Carson is really the perfect example. Of course, Officer David Dorn, when we talk about him, he's not the first. But I think he's a great example of what people should look to during these times when we talk about examples for people.


And we're going to be looking at one through the prism of race, which is what we're doing with Kamala Harris. We're seeing this right now. It's woman. It's vagina and race. It's vagina and racial genetics. It's vagina and ethnic makeup. That's all that matters right now in the vice presidential pick. She didn't make it far in the primaries. Yeah, it's not like he picked the most capable here. She she proved verifiably that no one liked her.


But as soon as you look past the woman of color thing, you have to start finding all the horrible, horrible things about.


I don't want you to know exactly the man behind the curtain, Wizard of Oz, but in her case, it would just be a slave like I want to make faster.


I cited Komala Premi. That's what they mutter to themselves.


No, Freney, for you, that's a whole thing, right?


Oh, my God. I cannot believe that she her dad bragged about owning slaves. NOPSA like, no, no, no, I don't know. Did you ask him Snopes? Did you make a phone call? You have him on speed dial. OK, here's another one. We're talking about criminal justice.


It's just the attitude that she has, in case you're saying, well, this could be taken out of context. Maybe she actually really is about criminal justice reform and about being more lenient, about being more compassionate. Here we have a clip. Thank you, Rich, for finding this, where she left about prosecuting the parents of children who committed truancy violations, meaning they were skipping class.


So I decided I was going to start prosecuting parents for truancy.


She's so happy with their system. She invented the light bulb.


And frankly, my staff went bananas. They were very concerned. We sent it out because it's a horrible idea of mine. And she went bananas.


My wife got the letter. She freaked out.


She brought all the kids into the living room, held up the letter, said, if you don't go to school, I was going to put you and me in jail.


Yes, we achieved the intended effect.


Yeah, you did. You scared people with the gut, with the arm of the law that you had no authority to wield, you crazy wench. And she's trouble like it's a pop up book. Like we were saying that the kids didn't listen. Their parents, we were going to put them in the clink as though it was on par with grand larceny. Can someone get me more sherry? No, you crazy bitch. Whoa. He didn't read the room.


So I had this wacky idea of the parent.


If I was a parent, I like, gather round kids. Look at this. We're not going to school anymore.


And by the way, by the way, this is something cute, because if we're talking about how laws disproportionately affect people of color, well, let's talk about the idea that, of course, disproportionately if a kid in Detroit, for example, black child in Detroit, black teenager in Detroit, has more chance of ending up in prison than graduating high school once they enter into school.


And a big part of this is, yeah, they just don't show up to class. This happens as a demographic. Black activists have talked about this and how we need to fix this. They believe that fixing it is pouring more money into schools. The point is this would disproportionately affect black parents. Kamala Harris, again, I know you have a blind spot because slavery, I get it. So maybe you're not necessarily super empathetic, but even is just a basic white guy.


I mean, that's pretty screwed up. Think about that for a second. The past. How many inadvertent ass beatings do you think that this led to from black mothers with poor kids who they found skipping class just because, you know, they didn't want to get hit on a three strike policy?


Don't you ever, ever, ever. Mom, I just it was it was a science fair. I didn't think I needed to go. Kid makes a volcano to get some vinegar and baking soda. I get it. I went to go to my kids for coffee. But don't you ever come on, wash. I'll ruins everything. That's the point here.


So I think this it is inconsistent in a way, right. That that she's doing this, but. I also think it reveals something that we all know deep down to be true, that leftist, when they are in power, they don't mind using that power to make people do stuff right. And so in that way, it does make perfect sense that, you know, she also had the record of going after David delayed and remember, in the Planned Parenthood and selling the baby parts.


And she went after him, just threw the book at him or her administration or whatever. And obviously, who knows how much money Planned Parenthood is giving to her campaign. Right. And so I think it's naive to think that once these people are in power, they won't use the police force or whatever they have at that point, social workers to come cart you off and make you do whatever they want to do. So I think it is it is inconsistent in a way, but it also just sort of shows their hand that they are not really against using their political power.


She wanted to charge parents for the same reason that in New York they wanted to be bigots. They think that's a legitimate role of government. And listen, I think yeah, I mean, I don't even have anyone seen a truancy officer. I haven't seen a truancy officer since The Untouchables. Are those still things? I don't know. I mean, probably somewhere.


I mean, but maybe schools have them, you know, and or certainly there's officers that maybe like their job. The lowest, lowest.


You didn't even get traffic duty. Right. We get a car. You got to walk around and find kids behind the 7-Eleven.


Feels like a very Mayberry thing to be checking up on right after school.


Absolutely. I mean. Yeah, go ahead.


No, I'm saying I mean, that is the question, though, is, is this indicative of how she intends to use her power when given a power, when given a little bit of power, she chooses to create her own definition of what can be punished. She decides to start inflicting that punishment on parents who would. I think it's pretty hard to make your kid go to school when you're in jail. Right. Or you're in court or you're having to work extra shifts because you have to pay for the fine that you got from laughy.


Laffy Taffy, you know frickin Carmello.


I think he was looking for whatever I was going to get me in trouble to. You see me pulling that snappy pay day. O'Henry Snickers Bars, Nerf Doodles, Mars Bar, POTUS V.P. candidate. You got me thinking maybe that's why.


But but then but then the idea, the idea of extending the non-violent offenders and how they're doing it for, you know, marijuana charges. Again, that is the idea of, OK, now she's in power. Let's multiply that by a thousand fold. And what are the types of policies that she will put on individuals when she's lied to and again, based on her own warped view of what's right or wrong.


And that view was shaped by a family that owned slaves in Jamaica. But here's one thing I will say. This is something that you may have seen a while ago where you have to scrap the second strike today because we'll have Andorian a little bit.


But first, to introduce we don't have these problems.


I recognize this as a young white truancy. Of course, people talk about the police statistics.


And for those who don't know, we hope that you enjoy this installment. Accurate to reality of white privilege.


Boys, I'm now for The Adventures of the White Privilege Boy. All right there now, Timmy, I know you're a teenager, but if I told you once, I've told you a thousand times you can't park your vehicle faced into oncoming traffic. Come on, let's move. Well, gee, officer, I'm sure. Sorry, can I just go back to my car? I want you to follow my instructions. Either get down on the ground and follow me away from the vehicle.


What officer can I just get my PCP's now? Well, you know, usually I'd say no, but you can make it quick. Come on, get on out of here, you white rascal. Oh, boy. I'm going to freebase. Oh. They find themselves in. Stay tuned for next week's installment of our Adventures of the White Privilege by retired St. Louis police captain David Dawn.


Dawn was shot and killed by a looter earlier this week in North St. Louis. This was a great cop. Great cops do exist. And this is one of black lives out of the marriage, smirk's. So on to the end, we don't keep on having these. Killings and stuff like that, one of them deserved to die like. All right, we are back, of course, for people who want to go to a lot of catch up dotcom and you can purchase this shirt.


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Contrast with my with my pants which are today nonexistent. Oh I couldn't find my pajama pants but a robe is good enough and we'll be having on here in a couple of moments or trying to connect with Miss and Dawn.


Of course she is the wife of the officer. David Dornum. You say widow.


I don't I don't know the term to use. That is not offensive here, but obviously we say so in the greatest respect.


And listen, one of those things, we have a platform where we can bring attention to these kinds of stories.


And I will say this, when we were on air with the David Dawn story for people who don't remember and by the way, we'll be reading some of your chat behind the paywall in a little bit here. It was the hardest thing I think. Had to watch live.


Yeah, that was rough. It was really tough, really, Rotch. And the reason I think it was so tough to watch when people try and say, well, you don't have the same kind of empathy. For example, George Floyd, we were all really upset about George Floyd. Everyone here was.


But we all knew that we weren't seeing the full context of that tape. You see a beginning, middle and end with the David Dooring tape.


You know, I mean, there's a lot of there was a lot that came out right away with that story. And I think the reason it was so gut wrenching, too, was because no one in the media was really talking about it.


This was a guy who really was a pillar of the community where he served as an officer for many years.


He was an example that should have and could have been followed. And he was killed. His life was taken doing exactly what it was that he had done his whole life to try and improve the lives of those in the black community. He was never a net drain. He was never a net burden. He was always a net positive. And this is someone we could look to if we're talking about finding common ground. And instead, very little coverage, very little to piss you off.


Yeah, it really makes you mad that they talk about these other people. But it was a hero king, too.


It changed my mind who was just on yesterday. And we'll have more, by the way, with Antifa, I believe, next Tuesday in the change of mind and how that escalated, where he said, well, I only have so much time in the day.


Yeah, that was his answer. I only have so much time in the day to know about him. I didn't really know about him. So was that some kind of a black cop as far as he knew this was Carl Winslow, right.


He had absolutely no idea who. By the way, I also support I back to the blood. So hero, both real and fictional. Yeah.


Not all heroes have a below forty eight inch waist with Carl Winslow. I don't know. Do we have a Mr. Horn. Are we looking to to get her here.


It doesn't look like we do. Still trying to connect but it's nothing to do. Oh we have audio but it's not letting us do video. Yeah. It's not letting her do video but she can hear me right now.


And can we do we have like a lower third. We can bring them so people can if we can't get her to do video good enough. I think that her voice being heard is important enough, as is Miss and Dawn. Are you there? Can you hear me?


Just make sure Miss and Dawn, are you there, can you hear me? I don't believe she can hear you.


I'm not seeing any indication there. She can hear us, but we can't hear her.


All right. Let's grab Bill and just bring him back in here, because right now, I don't I don't want to go to story number two and then go back to Anderson, but I'm really looking forward to having her on.


So I don't want to have her on a little bit. Just let me know when we have the connection. I don't know what's going on with this damn Apple TV bill.


Get back in here. Somebody help me.


So here's another story that we have before we bring on Jordan. Just let me know when we do that. We'll do a little later. There was another murder that happened that you may not have heard of. This one makes me mad.


Yeah, this one is this one is a piss off since everything is being seen through the prism of race and through the prism of guilt and vilification with officers out there. And the idea, of course, that they're out hunting young black males and that there are no ramifications for people.


There are no ramifications for white people. Right. Who kill black people.


That's what we're often hearing right now, particularly the police officers. We do not want to talk about this a little bit more. Obviously, the interracial crime is something that needs to be discussed and it needs to be discussed honestly and accurately. And that means looking at the data and the data is pretty clear that black Americans right now are 10 times more likely to commit violence against white Americans than vice versa.


You just don't know the names of those victims. Well, here's another one that you may be surprised to learn about. And there's nothing graphic here, so I don't need to warn you, but I believe his name was a can and hidden hint, hint, hint.


How is the last name pronounced? As in the a five year old in North Carolina who was shot riding his bike in his front yard and then his neighbor, Dariusz Sessoms, shot this kid in the head? I believe we have a clip from the local news affiliate.


Five year old Cannan Henein loved to ride his bike and loved animals. His mother tells us he was always smiling and loved his family. Now the family is preparing for his funeral. Police say twenty five year old Darius Sessoms, a neighbor, shot the child and it was not an accident. The reason is still unclear. Police believe the suspect took off in this black Toyota Corolla without a front bumper. Cannon's family was too distraught to talk on camera. They just hoped the killer is brought to justice.


So I want to be clear. The motive from the killer right now is still not necessarily entirely clear. There's a go find me that was started by, I believe, a family member. Have we confirmed that? I think it is confirmed. Who says that the boy did ride into this man's yard and not really.


They said that he came over to the killer, came over to their house the day before. So they knew each other.


And it's like now that he come over to complain about the kid riding his bicycle, they set for dinner and they said dinner for dinner. Yeah.


So do we have any this is a case of mistaken identity where he thought it was someone else riding a bicycle on his lawn who he had the right to shoot.


And by the way, I'm all for property rights and I understand that sometimes mistakes are made if there's a threat.


But this is a scenario where we have to wait for some context. A five year old on a bicycle, I don't know how you make that mistake. I can't think of a context where that makes sense. No, I can't think of a context which makes sense. And the police right now haven't thought of a context where that makes sense, because at this point, I believe that actually there are charges that have been brought in. You were the one who found the story, right?


Yeah, no, I just saw it floating around Twitter. And you just think the bizarre thing about it is it's not being reported on by any major outlets. Right. MSNBC, ABC, I think we actually have an overlay for people to see. We have MSNBC, CNN, NBC, Washington Post, ABC, when this story had happened and not a single one covered it.


Yeah, we went through and just I checked them this morning just to see if anyone had covered it and just nothing. Right. So, I mean, you just think if the races were reversed, the headline, you know, five year old black boy rides riding his bike, playing with the sisters and his white neighbor comes out and shoots him in the head. It would be all we would hear about for months. Right. And there would be no wait for a context or anything right now.


Exactly. Even if charges were brought, by the way, that's why it doesn't really matter, because there were charges brought against Officer Sylvaine pretty damn quickly and then they the charges and it still wasn't enough.


And in this case, we're just seeing it reversed. And it really is remarkable that you're not seeing the story anywhere.


I'm not saying it's indicative of all crime going on in this country, but when you look at this and the media is not covering this, let me ask you, have you ever heard the media when they talk about officers, right.


Police officers and police brutality, if they ever told you that you're actually more likely to be shot by a cop if you're white?


Have they ever told you that there's a higher percentage of police officers who are minority than the general population? Have they ever told you that more likely to use force against a minority perpetrator is a minority officer?


Have they ever told you that there's a 10 times the rate of black on white crime versus white on black crime? Have they ever told you that the number one cause of death for young black men under the age of 44 is homicide? Have they ever told you that An is 18 times more likely to be shot by young black males and vice versa?


Now, you can look at this through the prism of race and melanin is some. Like Nick Cannon does, which basically is just a form of genetic supremacy, or you can look at this and say there is something very broken right now in our culture with broken people, black and white. Now it is black and white, broke people are broken, but people are broken in different ways in different communities. And we've talked about that with a 70 percent fatherless household right now in black American households.


That's a real problem. And it manifests itself in ways that that unfortunately there are real consequences. And we're not focusing on the real consequences because people are shouting the loudest. How do we know that they're shouting loudest? Because they're robbing Tesla dealerships and burning down police precincts? It doesn't mean that what they are saying is right now, it doesn't mean that this story is something that should inspire you to go out and only care about this story. That's not what I'm saying at all.


But what I am saying is this is a story that wasn't covered because of political expediency from the media. And statistically, you need to understand that this is far more likely than happening when the roles are reversed. But when the roles are reversed, that's all you hear about.


And that's why I think it's important for every American out there to assume that there is no unbiased journalism, to assume that you're getting you're getting the spin and you have to do your due diligence because no one does.


No one I mean, this is this is frickin catnip for fear mongering media.


Well, yeah. And I think that's the thing that's so disturbing is you think there's no argument that this isn't newsworthy. I mean, I have not heard any story like this in recent memory of a child being shot in the front yard in front of their siblings. But, you know, and again, we don't know the motive. The guy could be schizophrenic. He could have mental problems or have some some some problem that has nothing to do with race.


I certainly don't think it's right. I don't think it's racially motivated. Yeah, I think it's a tragedy. It's just it's not covered.


But where the race comes in is that there was conversations apparently at these news outlets that said don't cover this because of the race. Right. That's the only explanation, is that there were some conversations had ABC, MSNBC, CNN, NBC, so on and so forth, that there was for some reason don't cover the story because it doesn't fit.


And I think there were similar conversations or certainly would seem that way if you run those searches and those same major outlets. With our next guest in the story, of course, Officer David Dorning, go with quite shop dotcom and purchase a shirt. All proceeds will go to the family affected. I believe we have. Ron, Miss and Dawn, can you hear me?


Well, thank you so much for being here.


I appreciate you making the time. And what are you for, Miss Mrs. and Dawn. Miss Dawn. And, you know, it's one of the obvious. This is a sensitive subject and you're on under circumstances that I wish were different and I get intensely uncomfortable.


I'm sorry, I had an echo, I couldn't hear you very well. That's OK. It was just me making nonsensical statements. I'll go with Dawn. This is Dawn.


Listen, for people who may not know this story, we were just talking about the media, what they cover, what they don't cover. And for people who watch this dream, we did show a portion of the video of your your husband, your late husband, American hero. And it was one of the hardest things that I ever had watched on air.


We actually had to cut to someone else. I had to kind of gather myself.


But unfortunately, a lot of people out there and we just found this out last week by the Black Lives Matter activists with whom we spoke on the street in Austin. They weren't familiar with this story at all. Could you sort of brief people for those who aren't in the know, which unfortunately is too many?


The night of June. My husband was helping a friend, as he always does, and he was answering an alarm call, which he's done numerous times before without any problems.


Um, and during that call, he was shot by a looter, unfortunately, was killed.


Yeah. And that's I mean, that's that's the short end of it. I think people should should know that your husband, Officer David Dawn, he was part of the St. Louis P.D. for how many it was it 30 something years.


He spent thirty eight years with the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department. He retired as a captain. Right.


And you yourself as well, if I'm not mistaken. You were your sergeant.


I have a sergeant, yes. Twenty seven year.


Twenty seven years. So both police officers and you let's we'll get into kind of the Explorers program, what you did with young people interested in law enforcement. And I know I want to make sure the people know there is going to be before we move on, a peace march on August twenty ninth in downtown St. Louis that I believe you're part of, correct?


Correct. Yes. Yes, correct. Twenty nine to ten.


And what do you intend to accomplish with this with this peace march right now? Because obviously there are plenty of marches or as people in the media would say, peaceful protests going on across the country. It almost sounds like, well, why do we need another peaceful march? It's almost as though there's a contrast with what's actually going on right now.


I'm trying to bring all walks of life together, everyone on both sides of the debate, the good and the bad, the right and wrong. Everybody has their own opinions. But I want to start the conversation. I want to start the healing process. I work with kids. I work with you for twenty seven years. And I want us to reach out to them. And I want to figure out how do we heal the community? How do we start we have to start at home first and figure out what's broken.


And I want to figure out I said I want to figure out what's broken so we can try and heal. Yeah. And bring some peace back to the field.


Well, I think I'm sorry. I know there is a little bit of an echo, so I apologize if I interrupt. I'm also interrupting myself right now. So we're both the victim of my blabbermouth. Let me ask you this, because right now, obviously, the narrative is that what is broken is the police force and that they are targeting young black Americans in record numbers right now. That's why we have the Black Lives Matter protest. That's what people believe.


True or not, I think a lot of people aren't aware that there's a higher percentage of police officers who are minorities than the general population.


And unfortunately, they often get the worst. They get the brunt of it because sometimes they're seen as traitors or they're seen as Uncle Tom. This has happened a lot. My dad was raised in Detroit. He was there doing the Detroit riots. He had a friend who had a father who was a black officer.


He had to go home in unmarked cars back then, considering how it's almost there's they are unsung heroes and often black officers aren't given the credit that they deserve. Why would someone like your husband, David Dawn, go into what inspired him to go into what is unfortunately often a thankless role?


He just loved helping the community. He's always been a giving spirit. He's always been a godly man. Whatever he could do to help somebody, I guess, is what led him in that direction. His father was a reserve officer. Years and years ago when very few blacks were even on the department and allowed to be on the department. So I think having his father as a reserve officer really inspired him to follow in his footsteps.


Well, yeah, and that's interesting that he wanted to serve his community, want to help people. And he saw becoming a police officer as a way to do that. And I'd like to continue on that and don't if you can hold for one second right now, we are going to cut this feed on YouTube because for some reason they give us problems. So YouTube, you can take a hike. We're going continue on mug club in just a second.


All right, miss.


And again, that is the March for peace, August twenty nine. Is there a place people can go to find more information on this?


It's a peace march still on Facebook, on Facebook, and still for as long as that is still allowed to be up.


And I hope it does remain up.


Let me ask is, why do you think that your husband would even want he wanted to serve his community? Like you said, he was a giving person and he thought that the best way to do that was by joining the police force. And obviously, you felt the same way, your sergeant yourself.


That's something that we don't hear a whole lot about, that we often hear about teachers. Right. They just want to help children.


But I think we often don't hear that people look at their communities that are broken and say, well, you know what, this might benefit from more effective policing. Why do you think or why did you and both your husband decide that one of the more effective ways to serve your community was the police force when they're often demonized?


I think when we both joined, it wasn't demonized. We were still very well respected. We were welcome in the communities. I worked in the schools for eight years. I became a mom with a lot of these kids. I didn't have home structures and they needed a mother. And I became their mother, basically. And to this day, I still have kids or I call them kids, but they're 30 years old on the street, they call me mom.


Well, I never conspire to be a police officer.


I was going to be a veterinarian. Really, how I how I got into the place, I don't know. David talked me into it and I've loved it and I've been there ever since. I mean, even twenty seven years later, I still enjoy my job. I still have fun. I still love helping people.


And I think that's something that's often lost on people. Not not all teachers are great and not all cops are great. Not all of anyone in any profession are great, but there are a lot of people who go into a profession to serve their community. And I think particularly, at least as we experience in Detroit, people who are members of a minority community going into a profession where right now the tone has changed to that of hostility. There's really no other you're not doing it to be Mr.


Popular. Let me ask you this.


Why do you think it is that this story with your husband has received comparatively so little media coverage? And we've done everything that we can, but we're obviously only one show. But the big ABC, NBC, CBS, almost nothing.


The easiest answer is it doesn't fit their narrative. It doesn't fit the narrative of, you know, a policeman killing a black man. It doesn't you know, it's a black on black crime. We have those every day in St. Louis. And I hate to say that it's very sad. That's one component that we need to fix with this peace march and we need to address. You know, all lives are precious, right? Every life out there is precious.


And he just didn't fit the narrative. He did get a blurb from a local news because he was very loved in our community. Right. You know, nationally, it just it didn't fit their narrative.


Right. It didn't fit in. And I wouldn't even just say it didn't fit their narrative. It didn't fit to the truth. It didn't fit.


What the reason that I see obviously you and your husband join the police force, as he said, to serve the community. You just mentioned black on black crime. If we're going to talk about all Black Lives Matter, it's the number one cause of death for young black Americans under the age of forty four is homicide police.


It doesn't even make the list.


And I've got to imagine that that was something that being in a city like St. Louis, both you and your husband encountered every day. And like you said, the brokenness from people who are the victims of these crimes, that is something that needs to be dealt with and it's not being discussed.


Well, what was your experience like with that in your in your husband coming home from those kinds of crimes in those kinds of neighborhoods?


It was difficult. I mean, we really had a lot of conversations about it. And coming from his perspective, you know, the narrative for Black Lives matter for him, his words were until every life, until every black life matters. The young black children, the.


Elderly blacks were being killed until Black Lives Matter start supporting them and protesting because those black children were being killed, their narrative didn't hold merit at that point because there was no, um, they didn't support the black children.


We've had I don't know how many 14, 15 black children and children under the age of 12 murdered in the city of Fort Lewis. And there's not been one protest, there's not been one rally for them or outcry from Black Lives Matter for their deaths. Right. And that's what matters in our community. If our youth are being killed and just murdered senselessly and nobody cares. Why would anybody care that? Right.


And after the protests and the riots are long gone and Sanjay Gupta packs up his remote camera and leaves and Anderson Cooper goes on to hosting a redux of the mole, it's people like your husband and yourself who are left to deal with the rubble. And like you said, another 12, 15, 30, 40 young black Americans killed and nothing has been done to solve that problem.


I wanted to ask you, because you talked about and we do have to get going here relatively soon, and my road got caught under my wheel like an idiot.


I apologize.


You talked about finding out where the brokenness comes from, the problems.


You said it starts at home.


Where do you think the problem is, is most, I guess, egregious right now is how do we help as police officers who've worked so closely with those in the black community, those and not only the black people in St. Louis, people we talk about poverty right now, a lot of poor people, people under the poverty line who are white people in St. Louis.


It's a pretty diverse city. What do you think the problem is, if not the narrative from the media, that it's police brutality? Where do we start?


We start in the home. We have to start back in the homes. We have to get the nucleus of the home re-established, parents in the home, parents actually being parents, not letting the streets raise their children, not letting their friends raise them. You know, there has to be parents involved. My mother was a single mother who raised five girls.


Yeah, that sounds like it'd be tough. She was a mother and a father.


Right. You know, and some parents have to take that on. But but, you know, if you're not a parent and you don't keep up with your child, you don't you don't know what they're getting into. You don't know what other if you're not the one influencing someone is right.


And let me ask this as a police officer, and you obviously would have to deal with, I assume, some repeat offenders, the young people who come in who are problems. Right. Who you deal with on an ongoing basis. You know, people who sort of have the regular punch card with the St. Louis PD, what percentage or how often would you say those problem children, young adults, what percentage of them didn't have parents or were missing one parent?


I would say a majority of them we're missing a parent are being raised by a grandparent. Mm hmm. And it showed the grandparents were doing everything they could to to raise the next generation. And most of them were moving on into their older years and just couldn't raise a child like they used to. Right. Right. Are the parents were struggling. We had we've had some phenomenal parents that I've dealt with in years because I've dealt with juveniles and stuff for many, many years.


We've had phenomenal parents. And, you know, everyone sort of slips through the drag, through the cracks. But the parents who want to be a parent and the parents who are there fighting and and trying to raise their child. Right. You know, they're far and few between. I mean, there's many of them. And I'll do anything I can to help any parent out there get back on their feet, help them figure out what they need.


You know, I've done it for years. I'll spend time with them. I'll get hooked up with social services. I'll get them counseling, parenting classes, you name it. We have it. There are services. They're just not being utilized the way they need to be.


I think that's an important point. A lot of people think that if you just throw more money at, it will solve the problem, whereas we have some services that aren't being used or aren't being effectively managed, managed, as we see in a lot of misspellings.


And forgive me for asking this question. You can tell me if you don't want to answer it, but I believe it was I think it was it was a son who talked about your husband's death.


And I believe that he said, you know, this is a way he would have rather gone out serving his community and doing the right thing than, you know, just kind of living into old age. I know his wife. That's not something that you would ever want for anyhow. You never want to lose them. But is there a part of you that finds some solace in the fact that this was a guy who I mean, there's there's no more clear definition of a hero of a man who served his community while he lived and he served his community in death.


And as there's a part of you that that that appreciates that or makes it any easier. Um, yeah, it does. You know, he did go out the hero. He went out fighting the good fight, helping people. I believe everything happens for a reason and, you know, going to speak through me. And I'm I'm hoping the reason is to help heal the city, to realize that he didn't have to die. You know, the young man didn't have to pull that trigger.


You know, there's all there was no reason to pull the trigger and take David's life. Yeah.


And David, you know, David, without honorably, you know, fighting. So I can't I can't ask for anything more. I don't I wouldn't have wanted it to happen that way. I'd like to grow old with him. Right. But, um, if he had to die like this, then. Yes. You know, he went out of here and I'm just hoping I can bring meaning to it.


And I know it's not in vain, though.


I will tell you this. His death was absolutely not in vain. And we'll do everything that we can. We've been trying to. And as you know, all the proceeds from these shirts will be going to you directly in your family. And I know it's no easier of a pill to swallow, but I will say from an outside perspective, I know that your husband and that story not only enraged everyone here at the studio, but really impassioned people at this studio.


It went from. All right, this is this is going maybe a little bit off the edge to note line in the sand drawn. This is something that cannot continue. There can be no other David Dorn's and I think inspired a lot of people to go out and not only support officers, but specifically to draw attention to minority officers, black officers who are trying to serve their community and are being wrongly vilified.


And you know what? I would go even further now into that man. I have to pull the trigger. That man didn't need to steal a TV. That man didn't need to be looting. We often hear well, it's a byproduct of poverty that people steal because, well, he wasn't going out and getting essentials. He was going out getting a visio. And you know what?


Your husband also didn't have to show up and help a friend's business.


And so I think what defines us is not only how we live and how we die, but what we do when faced with decisions that we don't really have to make.


And that's why I think maybe subliminally, a lot of people don't realize this with your husband's story, but they they understand the absorb the fact that that person didn't have to steal a TV.


There was no requirement to make that decision. His back wasn't against a wall. And your husband didn't have to go out in his 70s to protect a man's business wasn't his job. No one would even know if he had never done it. But when no one's looking and no one is forcing you to make a decision and you are compelled to make the right decision, that is indicative of character. And I think that's why your husband's story was and is so inspirational to all of us.


And we want to do everything that we can to help and support you guys. So I know the the march is August. Twenty ninth in downtown St. Louis, one more time there's a Facebook group where people can go Mr. Peace March. Still, it's nine a.m. August. Twenty ninth, and we're going to be meeting in front of police headquarters at nine, 19, 15. And we're going to be walking down to the civil courthouse at 10:00 Tucker.


OK, there will be shirts for sale, wear red, white and blue, our colors. OK, so I appreciate I appreciate it.


And listen, I know the media often moves on this. What happened with Stephen Willeford back then in the Sutherland Springs?


We don't you have our contact info. You have the information. And I please. I demand that you reach out if there's ever anything that we can do, because I know that sometimes it can become a lonely feeling when people have moved on to the next thing we try not to. So, Mrs. Dorne, thank you so much. I wish you the best with that march, and I'm sure we'll be in touch even.


Thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you very much.


God bless. Well, we are going to read let's read some chat here a little bit. Well, here we have Bill and Reg who were sitting there at rapt attention.


Gosh, you know what? What a tough story. What a tough story and what a tough broad. Yeah, it's always tough for me to do that because I want to be the Barbara Walters is trying to get people to cry. I mean, but I think we all want to have questions answered that if we were, that's would probably bring us to tears. So I don't know.


I was trying to say, like, don't feel like you have to answer this at all. I could be a dick.


But does it help that your husband was a bad ass like your husband on the show? Not only because you but because being a bad ass who did the right thing?


Yeah, that's rare that people are like, oh, that's that's like when a guy beat the crap out of a rapist. So also remember the context. So I'm from St. Louis and I have a lot of friends and family of grown up there. And, you know, it isn't just the current situation. Right. Right. I mean, think about how officers felt after Ferguson, right? Yeah. Yeah. And even the prior history in St. Louis about how officers are and folks just constantly every time they go out there and they talk about, you know, how officers are, they're always talking about the point zero zero zero one percent who are doing wrong.


And they're not talking about the ones that are having maybe made a mistake. And maybe it was wrong, but it wasn't a training or mistake type situation. But the vast majority of officers, especially minority officers who are choosing to serve, particularly I mean, you think about the last three or four years after Ferguson, how hard it would be to be an officer in St. Louis.


Well, Darren Wilson wanted to serve the black community. He specifically he was in a and he was in a cushier spot. He said, well, you know what? Can I go out there to Ferguson because I want to be in the community. I want to actually be interacting with people. I want to maybe fix some of my blind spots. That guy, by the way, disappeared.


It's not a George Zimmerman situation.


Darren Wilson just disappeared because he didn't want this kind of heat. And that's a guy who might never get his reputation back. David Door never gets his life back. Darren Wilson never gets his reputation back. Either way, something is irreparably damaged. And that is a big thing. What he did when no one, no one would have known if he didn't go out at night.


You know, when people aren't watching the decisions you make, it makes you feel bad about myself, because when I know no one's watching, I rub my balls on Bill's desk.


Oh, yeah. I switch desks, like, three months ago. Oh, my gosh, that's my desk. We shouldn't have bought identical desks, but we should. The market with gaff tape.


Bill gave me his old desk. Oh, that's what that smell is. Yeah. No it's not. No that's because that's the thing is that would be the obvious prank.


You freeze it, no one's the wiser, but it's really more satisfaction for me. Kind of like the guy who puts the razor blade in the Halloween apple. He never gets to see the smile on.


I could say no, you know, it's. But that razor blade will always be right here.


Let's go to some Shaq. Yeah, we have a chat from Tyler Harris. He says, Nice slurp today. So excited about the trailer. Taylor Harris is a terrible person and I think a communist.


His name is Tyler. So they're Stolar. Harris is a terrible person, probably related to Komala. There we go.


Daniel Davis says, hey, Stephen, hope all is well with your wife and family. I have a question or a statement really on Harris. Harris called Biden a racist and then claims you believe the stars or star assault allegations. So the wait on was no sex assault.


Maybe, maybe just I think it's auto censored in the chat.


But but but that's not even how you spell sexual assault. Sex assaulter is what led to his sex assault. Maybe it's just an assault that. No, no, no. I don't know. She's now we're getting into this because I want to be clear. Sex assault is just something it's something like kind of when my when my wife comes home after a long trip, kind of like Kato, I go up and we have a safe word.


So that's what that's called. Yeah, she's the clue. So we all needed a term for that. Yeah, I'm just saying get it right. Yeah.


Don't paint my wife and I with that broad brush. It's sexual assault. Sex assault is fun.


Sexual assault is a crime. All right.


So the question is, do Democrats finally have to admit that they claim racist is just a political weapon to beat their opponents with and harass 070, a groveling apology. Or the other option is that Harris is there, got an AB thing going here is that Harris is knowingly engaging with a sex assaulter and an actual KKK racist, which means she is just as awful as we all thought. Either way, the Democrats lose.


I think actually I mean, as long as this was and he should have presented bullet point because it would be easier to absorb maybe.


Also, I don't appreciate your turn of I don't appreciate your tar and feathering of my wife and of our sexual proclivities.


For some reason, it becomes a problem when it's what we do in our bedrooms or kitchen or when I jump out of the dryer is our own woe is like Downey's favorite.


Listen, we like it rough. Sometimes she puts on a spin cycle like, Oh, you got me, sweetheart. I don't know. See, this is why you start school.


Then they wouldn't be watching this, right? Yeah. Yeah. But I think the problem may be with you that when someone says sex assault, you're like, what? Are you going to make it personal?


Yeah, I could be projected to say I may be projecting, which is what I do. I project my body forward onto my wife of the technique as a part of this. As a part of what? What's the name of the sex assault or sex assault?


And there's no real sex.


It's just sex assault. That's the game. Oh, it's the it's the fear. So it is possibility. Yeah.


Cool. So guys think so anyway. No, I think he's right. I think this is a valid point. We'll end it on this with Kamala Harris. Yeah.


She went in so hard on Cavanaugh and then of course, she also agreed on the sexual assault claims against Joe Biden.


What does she do? She has to answer that now here.


If the media does if the media would do their jobs again, just like we were comparing Kamala Harris and her positions on non-violent drug offenders versus Donald Trump, what he has done to actually alleviate those sentences, if they wanted to be consistent, just think of how often they ask Donald Trump about something where he misspoke.


Right. Or about something they go on second. You said that you weren't going to wear a mask. Now you're saying that a mask is patriotic. Why did you do that?


You said this night. Yeah. How about failand, right? You said I planned. How about asking Kamala Harris?


I don't think it's a misspeak. I don't think it's an auto correct tweet. I think accusing her running mate effectively of sexual assault warrants an answer.


Yeah, right. I think you'd think so. And that's why I think, like I've been saying repeatedly, same thing with Chad. I said Donald Trump should send in the feds right away because relying on any kind of a strategy that is predicated on the media doing their job is a losing strategy. And that's for someone like Donald Trump is the only candidate right now. I really like Ted Cruz. I don't think he would have done it. I'm incredibly disappointed, obviously, in Carly Fiorina.


Egg on my face. I admit it.


Donald Trump is the only one who will say, why don't you why don't you ask her about the fact that she said Joe Biden likes sex assault.


He's a guy. And that needs to be asked. That needs to be asked. It needs to be asked. Hey, now, you say you support Black Lives Matter. What are you excited sentence's? What about the fact that you put fifteen hundred nonviolent drug offenders for using marijuana in prison? Those questions need to be asked. It is not about whether the media does their job. Sometimes when people complain about media bias, it really comes down to this idea and you will see it highlighted in this election more than that's really what elections are.


It doesn't change the media's job and it doesn't change the bias. But it's very clear to see it's not just about them doing their job.


Are they applying the are they applying the purview of their job equally?


If you're going to ask Donald Trump about saying that if the Russians had some info, maybe I'd look at it and paint that as Russian collusion and include that in a trial and demand evidence in hearings, I think it's worthwhile to say, hey, Komala, you still think Joe Biden rapes people?


Well, I don't think it was rape so much as sex assault. That's one for you. Come our you.


And we're going to see you guys tomorrow. Bill, show of the week. We have Brian Cowan on the show. Hey, that's going to be a big one.


His first show since the allegations came out, which here we go. Spoiler false.


We'll talk about it tomorrow and see that. Today, the. The.