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And we we talk to some listeners who shared some very funny stories about phone banking.

But first, he's a comedian, writer and co-host of the podcast Politically Reactive with Come Out BHEL. The third season is coming back the first week of October. Please welcome back, Hari Kondabolu.

Good to see you, John.

You know, we were just talking before, you know, there's the kind of the catch up now that is sort of the implicit reality of our of the world is sort of baked into the way we ask the questions. Imagine when you said, how are you doing? I said, never been better.

Well, if you said I'm doing great, I'm like, oh, OK. That's the answer. If you're saying never been better, I know you're a liar. It's just it's too extreme a position to take or I'm a sociopath.

Right. Sadistic is the best time of my life.

Now, more like this, please.

I've always wanted to go down and take everyone with me.

Oh, man. All right, well, on that note, let's get into it. What a week.

On Sunday night, Trump held an indoor rally in Las Vegas in which thousands of mostly masked free attendees ignored Trump's own social distancing guidelines. It may seem crazy to attend an indoor rally for Trump, but to be fair to the attendees, a few lucky members of the crowd will win a chance to meet Herman Cain, who is tough.

Stop it.

You're encouraging me. Louis Dejoy gave the Trump campaign and the RNC more than hundred thousand dollars in the weeks after the postmaster general job became available. Real subtle, Louie. It's like, Oh, Grandpa fell down again and now everyone's been bringing him soup and talking about how much they love the lake house.

Good. I like that one. I like that. Do you have a lot of listeners who have money coming to them? Do you feel like that's part of your demographic, wealthy parents or grandparents?

So that's a very good question. That'll hit home. That'll really hit. Yeah. Yeah, no, that's where we were like that's for you. That's for some trust fund kids.

We're like, that is funny because it's true. That is my lived experience.

Finally something that speaks to my reality. All the others I get, I could sympathize with. I empathize with that joke.

And my name is Joey Darvas, the Department of Health, I'm shocked this shit up to the fact that you just had a baby. And you know what? I don't know what's funny anymore.

The Department of Health and Human Services communications chief Michael Caputo made a bizarre Facebook live video this week in which he spread conspiracy theories and warned of violent insurrection. If Biden becomes president, he's taking a leave of absence, which must be very annoying for his colleagues, who will have to not only do their own jobs, but also fill in for him by being huge assholes.

He's capato kaputt. Yeah. Yeah. Could no longer.

Yeah. Kaputa Yeah.

That's good. Good. Is it just days after. It's just days after Trump congratulated JPMorgan Chase for reopening its offices in the midst of a global pandemic, the bank had to send some Manhattan traders home after an employee tested positive for covid. But to be fair to those traders, it's really hard to snort Adderall while pulling your mask down.

That's where I fucked it up. I think it's really hard to sort out.

It's hard to sort out at all without pulling your mask down. All the good possible with your mask up.

That's good. That's good. I like it. That joke 30 years ago is a cocaine joke, but you updated it with Adderall.

Well, got update it. He got updated. He got a date. I don't know. As you know, it's cocaine that went to Dartmouth.

Again, it's the that's the same audience from earlier. The trust fund kids. They're going to love that.

I guess I could have said youcan find whatever right now.

You just relate it to a different demographic. NASA Community College.

Hey, Nasdaq me. That's my that's my home turf. Nassau Community College. Are you from Nassau County? Yeah, Syosset. Where are you from?

Oh, I grew up in Floral Park. On the Queens side. On the border of Nassau County. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a real. Yeah that's that's Hatfield McCoy type stuff right there.

Exit forty PlayStation five preorders started this week and it's a shit show. Pandemonium on the Internet, retailers at random intervals popping up with presale for like thirty seconds. And Harry I got one. I grabbed it. I pounce like a cat. A cat with five hundred dollars. I popped in, I grabbed one. I say this only because on November 3rd is the election. Obviously, November 12th is the launch date of the PlayStation five. And so we have to win.

I like the fact that you said that you were you pounced on it like a cat because cats have nine lives. And if you're counting on that, you have no lives.

Eat shit, gamer's hurry thinks you're at it, he's gamer's you losers. I have a kid now.

Also this week, Kanye West tweeted a video in which he appeared to urinate on a Grammy award that was in the toilet. Then he tweeted a video of a plumber saying, there's your problem.

It's a weird thing because on one hand, that's a really funny joke. On the other hand, this man clearly has mental health issues. So it's that weird, like, oh, it's funny objectively, but man, this guy is out of his mind.

Yeah. So here's my feeling on it. I feel that this joke is fine because it's more of a joke about what would happen if you had a Grammy in your toilet.

All right. That's good. It's not I feel I agree with you. Like, I do think that, like, generally as a society, we're not giving Kanye as much attention as I think we would have in a previous time.

So I think there's some growth, like with a pandemic, with the election, with the fact that he's trying to get on the bout with with the fact that it's clearly some kind of an episode trying to get on the ballot is that think he's trying and maybe on the ballot in a few states?

I think I think that like Iowa, I think in Minnesota, I think a few states, he may have successfully been put on the ballot by cynical Republicans taking advantage of someone clearly going through something while at the same time people going through something are also people with agency and making decisions as well.

So it's complicated and it makes me feel bad.

Is he able to put old Kanye West on the ballot like I think he'd get more votes if he wrote Kanye West College Dropout era, and then I think that would yeah, that would get more votes than current Kanye West. I don't know if you can. Yeah, you can do that.

There's a key pivot point where Kanye West broke the production of live events to insult George W. Bush.

And when he broke live events to take an award from Taylor Swift, that hinge moment before the one that's attacking George W. Bush like, OK, right, fine. Right.

That's like, oh, my God, you're a hero. And now it's like, oh, my God, here's the thing.

It's not great. Oh, man. I mean, wedding is now been linked to more than 175 coronavirus cases and the death of seven people, none of whom were attendee's. When reached for comment, the couple said not now are gender reveal brush bomb is about to explode. It's a boy and jumping the fire line.

But the the motto for Maine is the way life should be ironic now, isn't it?

So to enter the state leading the way, life should be and they die. Well, they didn't even and the people that died didn't even go to the fucking wedding.

They're just around a lot.

The way life should have been more like Live Free and die next door. That's New Hampshire in New Hampshire, New Hampshire, live free and die because of you're not doing the things you need to do to take care of your community.

Being anti citizen's, hurting people, causing this whole horrible period to last longer out of your own selfishness, callousness. How about that on the back of a quarter of.

This is good. Done. It turned into like performance art at the end. I like that. I'd like the unexpected twist.

Thank you. It's good. Thank you.

On Wednesday, Dr. Robert Redfield, who Trump appointed to be the director of the CDC, testified in Congress that the general public likely wouldn't see a benefit from a coronavirus vaccine until well into 2021, and that masks might be considered better protection against the disease. Tough shit, said an asshole sitting in the front row of a school board meeting in Tucson.

Armano on both say, I love the Trump came on right after and castrated the man in front of everybody that came out and said like, Oh, that's interesting, sir, that he meant the opposite.

Say you meant the opposite.

So Trump then, you know, attacks. Redfield says. Actually, everything you're saying is wrong. The vaccine will be announced. Hour could be announced in October. It'll be available immediately. And I just think nothing instills confidence in an experimental vaccine like Donald Trump says. Shut up, doctor. Roll up your sleeves.

Get those sleeves up, America. Dr. Trump's coming in. All right. It's clear it comes out of the needle and it's going in your body.

I'm sure there was a Trump med school pitch at some point in one of his rooms. There's no doubt like one of his board rooms up in the med school. Oh, man.

Bill Barr is under fire for wanting to charge Black Lives Matter protesters with sedition. And why don't you arrest the mayor of Seattle for allowing the autonomous zone near downtown to exist? A policy dispute. The people of Seattle were more than capable of litigating locally, but also compared career prosecutors to preschooler's when discussing how political interference by the attorney general and investigations is actually good and normal. So let's just see where we're at. Directing political prosecutions, charging protesters and political enemies with sedition, arresting left wing politicians with trumped up.

Charges creating a climate of fear around socialism and lawlessness, stoking resentments based on ethnic divisions during a time of cultural and economic discord.

I know I've heard of that happening in the past, but I can't quite put a finger on it.

That's a leading question. People know that the rhetorical question can't quite put a finger on it.

You know, like like für Führer. Hitler. Yeah. The Führer can't quite put a furor.

Donald Trump participated in a town hall moderated by George Stephanopoulos. He was faced with tough questions by voters. It was fact checked in real time by George Trump, had a harder time grasping for facts than he does grasping for Malani.

His hand can't get his face in bed. He's in a bad marriage. She signed a contract.

She said she's stuck with him for at least another year, potentially far more, depending on whether the contracts extended.

I think it's a mutual option. I don't know if it is a mutual option.

I feel like then she would have I don't know the money.

It might be a mutual option with a big, big, big payday, you know. Right. And also, she might have she might have to return some of the signing bonus if she leaves early retirement that she might hopefully vested. Correct. Good news.

For the first time in the magazine's 175 year history, Scientific American has endorsed presidential candidate Joe Biden. Bad news. It was their fossil issue.

I'm sorry that I did that. Honestly, that's a part. I'm pandering. I'm pandering to my to my DSR power. Ha here. I like it. I like it.

Joe Biden's an alternative fuel source. Everybody is a goddamn fossil.

Harry and I both know we got to get this guy in. All right. Yeah, he's kind of old, but so we're just having fun. We're just having some fun. I mean, I would vote for fossilise Joe Biden at this point. I don't think there's really this is an obvious. Yeah. Are there undecided people still there?

Are we just actually good good chance for a plug car there? Is that weak crooked. Just put out a really good gay.com dotcom and read it.

We polled three thousand low propensity marginal voters, people who have either not voted in the past or perhaps only voted in 2016, voted third party, are not sure they're going to vote or are undecided in their vote. I mean, and what we found was that the vast majority have a plan to vote and are planning to vote this year. And they are mostly leaning towards Biden, but they actually tend to either not like either candidate or need more information about Joe Biden.

There's this big pool of people that don't like Trump and actually really do just want to learn more about Joe Biden, and they haven't done that yet.

Wait a second. So from learning more information, are they leaving the possibility that what they learn about Joe Biden is far worse than what they have seen Trump do at this point?

Yes, I think they want to know about his policies. But here's the good news. When you share with these voters Joe Biden's positions on health care and the economy compared to Trump, they're very, very persuadable. I just think there are a lot of people out there right now. It's, you know, look, they're just in a different media environment and they just don't sort by party. They don't come to it with as much predisposition, I guess.

And so there is just this big pool of people that are just gettable and they're persuadable to vote for Joe Biden.

So there is a world and this is again coming from there is a world where that the media that they are watching has given them no indication that there have been any weird occurrences in the presidency of Donald Trump.

Like somehow that's not what it is.

They don't like Donald Trump. But when you ask him about Joe Biden, they just don't know anything. They just they are predisposed. They are gettable. They just don't know about Joe Biden. So they consider themselves undecided. The most common word people gave when asked about Joe Biden, like, what's your one weird thing about what's something you know about Joe Biden? The most common response was nothing like there just a lot of people out there that just haven't heard.

They've heard a ton about Trump. They don't like Trump. They just haven't heard about Joe Biden yet.

Biden was vice president for eight years. They knew he was vice president. Right.

Listen, you got to talk to them individually. There's 3000 of them. We're going to get you connected to them. I like look, do I wish that these individuals had gathered a bit more intel before the poll reached? I'm sure I do. Sure I do. But the good side of it is they're gettable, OK? We can get them. We can get them.

Are they all in Florida, Ohio or Pennsylvania in we I think these I think this was mostly in swing states that we were checking.

Yeah, OK. All right.

One final joke on Monday. Listen, I the biggest divide is not just between Democrats and Republicans. It's between people paying attention and people who don't. It's a huge gaping fucking chasm, different language, different ecosystem, different world.

On Monday, Chris Evans finally addressed the photo of his penis that he accidentally shared with his Instagram followers, tweeting, Now that I have your attention, vote November 3rd. I just hope he's not voting in sweatpants.

To vote in person safely, hurry, please wear a mask and stay at least one Chris Evans penis apart in line, I would have expected that from Chris Pinay that pronounce his name wrong.

Is that right?

I think it's he penis pinay Chris. Well, you have two of them. It's two crispiness.

It's Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, Chris Pinay, Penha.

You got it. It doesn't sound wrong. It sounds right.

A complicated European names man.

I don't know pinay spinning pinay.

OK, anyway, the point is Christine it enthusiasm problem. Harry doesn't look like it.

That's my last Chris Evans. He's back and he's back in Hari Kondabolu.

Everybody, thank you so much for joining us. This was very entertaining. Thank you, Don. I'm so happy for you and the new baby creating life.

Way to go. Thank you. More humans continuing this species. Thank you.

And a big thank you to the Ritz Carlton in Honolulu.

OK, thank you to Hari Kondabolu for joining us. That was an absolute delight. When we come back, Jane Fonda is here. We a great conversation. Very charming, very intimidating. Very funny. What a delight we are back.

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She's an actress, activist and author of the new book What Can I Do, which urges people to take action against climate change and join her in protest.

Please welcome Jane Fonda. Thank you so much for being here. Thank you for inviting me, John.

So there's this video that's been circulating on Twitter, and it's a moment of you being interviewed and I believe the 70s. And you're asked by vaguely patronising questioner about gay rights. And he basically asks if you're being used by the gay rights movement. And then he asked, do you think that gay people are still discriminated against? And you have this look on your face like, are you out of your fucking mind?

And it's clear in that moment that this is I think the reason people are sharing that video is because it's a moment where you see somebody just ahead of the curve, just somebody who understands an issue with forward thinking that a lot of other people at the time might have missed. And what I think is interesting is it seems like you've been able to kind of maintain that energy throughout your career, even now as you're protesting and even being arrested and protesting against climate change.

And then you see others who, you know, comics that were once legends become kind of soggy. Worry about Cancio culture. You see baby boomers at Trump rallies desperate for some kind of restoration as to how things used to be. You seem able to stay at the forefront of things. What's your secret to doing that? Why is it that you haven't gotten stodgy? You haven't you haven't gotten stuck in your ways. You're learning new things. What are you doing?

What's the trick? I would have answered it very differently, except you use the word soggy. And I just realized in 1980, I think I made I produced a movie called On Golden Pond, and it had my dad and Katharine Hepburn in it. And I was scared to do a backflip when I would practice and practice and practice. Katharine Hepburn must have known I was scared. And when I finally managed to do it, I crawled up on the shore and she'd been hiding in the bushes watching me.

And she walked up to me and she said, You taught me to respect you, Jane. You have to stand up to your fears or you'll get soggy. You don't want to be soggy. That's why I'm doing all this. John Love. Lovett exposed to me. The real reason it's because of Katharine Hepburn. I don't want to be soggy because I know she's looking up at me from hell and.

Saying, don't get me wrong, I didn't know I was going to get a Katherine Hepburn impression, I didn't know that that was coming, it was very, very exciting. Was it? It was. I was a very good and that was a great impression.

Clearly doesn't take a lot to excite you, John. Let me ask you this.

Let me ask you this. Did you know Ted Turner was obsessed with Gone with the Wind before you married him? And if so, why did you marry him?

Yes, I did. And I thought that it was kind of strange and charming. I mean, truly, he was obsessed. He purchased two million acres of land because he'd gone with the wind. Scarlett's father says to her that it's the land. It's the only thing that matters because it's the only thing that lasts. So that's why he bought all this land and that famous portrait of Vivien Leigh as Scarlett that hung him in the living room and Clark Gable eventually threw a glass at it.

There must have been two of them because one got shattered tarots. The other one is hanging in the living room of one of his homes. He looks kind of like Rhett Butler.

And maybe maybe if you squint and have a bit of a fantasy, you know what I mean? I do both.

I squint and I have fantasy. So I'm a woman.

I mean, I got to say, I barely give permission to gay men to be obsessed with Scarlett O'Hara because of the fashion. But if he loves Gone with the Wind and it's not about the fashion that makes me very concerned, makes me very sad. That land is about land. It's about land. Let me ask you this.

You've had a lot you have these famous marriages, these big larger than life personas. I'm currently engaged to Ronan Farrow. He's a pretty big persona. Right. Any tips on what we should do after we get divorced? I have a crush on him. You do you have a crush on. My God, he is the most adorable human being. Yeah, he's he's very a very good writer. He is a great writer and a brave writer. I remember watching him interview Chelsea Handler at the 90 Second Street Y.

I was with a friend and I kept saying to her, who does he look like? Who does he look like? I'm not going to say it out loud on the job, should I? I shouldn't say.

Mia Farrow. He looks like Mia Farrow. OK, OK. Say, chloroforming, we've spoken. I will won't I will say hello to him, I will say that we we met that night after he finished.

Yes, yes. He mentioned that that he mentioned that you had met. He mentioned that you had met. You were you have been an activist throughout your entire career. It does seem like there has been this change, which is that you faced a lot of blowback for being an activist. You faced a lot of heat for being an activist. Now there's a little bit of like activism chic, like it's cool to be an activist. It's cool to be involved.

Do you think that that's a good thing? Do you think that's true? Do you think that there has been a change in the way sort of public facing people like yourself are treated when they get involved in politics?

Yeah, I just think, you know, when you hit bottom, everybody knows you got to go to AA or something. You have to start going to a program. In the New World, reality activists are just working the program. I mean, we got to get out of this. We got and hopefully we got to get out of it alive on a planet that is somewhat healthy. And it's not going to happen unless everybody, all hands on deck gets involved.

And and that includes celebrities and plumbers and dentists and lawyers. And everybody has to get involved. And I think that, you know, except for really sick people, there's more understanding now of why civilians have to rise up and take matters into their own hands. Plus social media. Yeah, this this makes a huge amount of difference. And it's not just that it's much easier to organize a demonstration because you can spread the word real fast. It's easier with social media to try different messages.

You can try out your messages and get feedback so much faster about what works, you know, in the old days and take a few years to find out that wasn't the right message, you know. So that makes a difference to what have you learned in coming out with this book about climate?

What are the lessons been so far now that you sort of put this book out there about your climate activism, are trying to get other people involved in the fights or what have you taken away from? What have you learned as a climate activist in the years since you've been sort of taking us on as your main focus?

The Yale Project on Climate Communication says there are twenty three million Americans who know there's a climate crisis. No, it's caused by people, human beings, but they haven't done anything about it because nobody's asked. So our goal when I say our me and Greenpeace, me and Annie Leonard, who is the director of Greenpeace, we were aiming to reach the great unasked, asking them to do something that they maybe had never done before, come to a rally, engage in civil disobedience and risk getting arrested.

We weren't sure it would work, but it did. They came from all over the country and some came back two or three times. I would ask them, have you ever done this before? They hadn't. I would ask them how it made them feel to do something they've never done before, having Ziploc handcuffs put on them and get taken away by the police, losing control. They used words like untransformed when you put your whole self, your whole body, being on line with your values, something we don't do often.

It's extremely empowering. It's weird. Even though you're giving up your power to the police, it's very empowering and it wakes you up. It makes you you know, I don't know, you just change as a person. It happened to my celebrity friends and it happened to everybody that came that I spoke to. So that's what I learned, is that we'd hit something, we'd hit a nerve. That was important because what we have to do was rouse the twenty three million people, that sleeping tiger in the United States.

It's the numbers people. We have the smarts. We have the money. We have the technology. We have the science. We know what to do. We have everything we need. We just need people power. So that was our goal is to start getting people. And then I wrote the book because people wanted to start doing Fire Drill Fridays where they live. This was before the pandemic. So I thought if we write a book, then that will give them some I don't know, it's a good organizing tool and it's really informative and tells people what they can do.

And then we were going to tour the country before the election and get out the climate vote and then it happened. So we fire drill Fridays now virtually. And since July we've got four million people following us.

It's pretty amazing. Yeah, that's amazing. You know, the other person we're talking to during in this episode is Varshney Prokosch, who is this young founder of the Sunrise movement. Have you found that as you've taken on this issue, that you've been like, look, you know, I've I've read a bunch of interviews.

You get you all you're constantly saying in interviews that you're eighty three. You're constantly saying your age. You're just going to say like I am eighty three, I am going to do this and you're going to own it. Yeah. How does it how has it been to be in your eighties and taking on that issue that connects with so many. Of the youngest people that are being active in our society, what have you learned from just connecting with this youngest generation that older people have to wake up?

We're responsible for what's happened, but we're not responsible. The fossil fuel industry is responsible. They knew what they were doing 40, 50 years ago, and they did it anyway. And they lied to us and we're killing us. It's the young people's future that we've put in danger. And they're scared and they're angry and they're carrying grief. They're mourning what's been lost. And what Will can tell you. Birds are falling out of the sky here in the West Coast, in the southwest, dying, dropping from the sky birds.

I mean, our sky is orange. It's Florida's underwater. I mean, it's you know, young people understand what's at risk. They're giving up careers to fight the climate crisis and they're saying we can't vote. Where are you guys? Come on. And so, yeah, I've been delivered about saying how old I am, first of all, because it's no secret everybody else, I might as well say it before you do, but also because I want people to say, well, jeez, if her at 82 years, if she can do it, I can do it.

Right? Yeah. Yeah.

Well, Jane, thank you so much for your time now. I asked before we started if you would help me do something, which is that now I haven't been able to see my mother for a while because of covid. And you graciously agreed to just give her a call and surprise her because she's a huge fan.

So, Elisa, can we call my mother and surprise her with a hello from Jane, a living legend?

Jane.

Yes, I know. Thank you. I haven't forgotten your I was deciding what kind of what kind of compliment to provide in that moment.

I thought maybe you forgot who your guest was. Where is she? Is she on the phone?

She's in Florida. We're going to get her on the phone. OK, what's her name?

Her name is Fran, Fran, Fran and Zoey.

So here, look, I'm going to there's Harvey Milk. All right?

Wow. You see, Harvey. I do. That's great.

Yeah, I could have right there. I swear, John, I could have flipped him.

He was this if he just a little bit longer, you could have had I could have had him.

You're very charming to have you're very charming.

You know, people talk about the beauty, but also famously charming, the beauty plus the charm. You could have gotten them.

We liked each other. Yes, no question about it.

It would have been, you know, here's the thing. Why why not give it a shot, you know, because he's dead.

Well, now obviously now he has. Yeah, he's dead. That's why. Now talking then. Now. Yeah. Now, does it make sense.

Well I know, but I see I believe in moving slowly.

But then they got Charles.

Yeah, you were playing hard to get just, you know, take it one step at a time, that's all. Get him comfortable with the idea. Coax him like a panda. Yeah, I guess we didn't get we didn't get my mom. We didn't get your mother. Well, is it going through to voicemail?

Well, rather than let her know what she missed, I'm I'm calling her right now.

I'm calling her on my phone. It's not she's not answering. We missed it. We tried. We tried. Jane Fonda.

Thank you. So high. I tried to call. I did my best. So did John. We'll do it one day. But I'm sorry we missed it today. I wanted to thank you for giving birth to such a wonderful son. You must be so proud of him. Then how are you doing? Uh huh, OK. Are you wearing your mask? Good. All right. I'll talk to you soon. Again, that was incredible.

We got a Katharine Hepburn impression full on one sided conversation with my mother, Jane Fonda. What a legend. What an icon. What a pleasure. Thank you so much for taking the time to talk to us. Thank you, John.

It's been a pleasure. Say hi to your partner. I well, I. Well, could I flip him?

I could be his grandmother. Stepmother, it could be you're old enough to be his stepmother. That's what I would say. OK, thank you so much, Jane. This is great. Bye bye. When we come back, we called listeners to hear their stories about what it's like to phone bank to encourage you to get in there and start making some calls, even if you haven't done it before and you're not sure how it's going to go, because once you start, you'll realize it's it's not just the right thing to do.

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That's friends without the are best friends auerback. This week we are encouraging everyone to finally get out of their bed and start making some phone calls. Honestly, if you want to stay in your bed, that's great. That's fine. It doesn't matter. You can do this from basically anywhere you don't even to be clothed. But calling people on the phone can be a little bit intimidating, especially I haven't done it before or I've done it very much. I totally understand that.

But for the most part, it's easy. It can be really rewarding. And sure, some people hang up and some people don't answer, but you also get to have some pretty incredible conversations. So to encourage you all to get going on these phone banks, especially because we're doing so much politics from home and we're not able to knock on doors in the same way that we otherwise would have. We wanted to talk to a few volunteers who have had positive experience while chatting with voters so that you could hear what it's like, you know, let's go to the phones, as they say.

Hello. Hi, is this Jared? Yeah, this is Jared. Hi, Jared. My name is John. I host a podcast called Love It or Leave It. And we're calling to talk to you about your experience. Phone banking. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I know who you are. OK, so you know, what we say here is it's going to happen. I'm going to say it, your Amajan. Oh, and I just want to say that I just want to say, you know, it's been a tough road for people named Jared. It's been a tough couple of years.

And, yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the name anymore. So.

So you've been doing some phone banking and you have a kind of positive experience you thought you could share with people. Yeah, tell us about it. Tell us about Jared. You know, about a month ago, I decided to sign up to go to America and adopt in Arizona. And I've been doing phone banking every Saturday. And about two weeks ago, I had a relatively long call. I know we're not supposed to have super one calls, but had a long call with a voter who was severely impacted by covid and was about to be evicted from his apartment.

And I had kind of an understanding that maybe he maybe there was an eviction moratorium in his state. I don't live in Arizona. I live in California. And while I was on the phone with him, I did some research and found the governor's website and saw that the eviction moratorium had been extended. And so I texted him that. But then I also felt like he might need additional support going forward. So I also gave him the contact information for his state legislators who I thought might help him with a landlord who was not following kind of their eviction moratorium.

And it seemed like hopefully it helped him out. And I haven't been able to follow up, but it was nice to feel like, you know, these calls not only are helping do the thing that I want to happen in November, but you know how somebody right now.

That's awesome. Jared, that's great. Thank you for doing that. Brass tacks, did you get a fucking vote or not?

Yeah, he said yeah. So he said he was going to vote for Joe Biden no matter what. But then when they nominated Kamala, he was he was in all the way. So I think we're pretty set with a vote there.

Okay. Okay, so that's great. Tara, that's such a nice story. So you're in California. Where are you in California?

I live in Sacramento. So not a lot of not a lot of opportunities to do anything as much here, although I am volunteering for a couple of ballot measures here, too.

Well, that's great. And how's the air today? Breathable. OK, ok.

Yeah, breathable is what we are. That's what we're looking for. The best we can do. Yeah. Jared, thank you so much. Thank you so much for telling that story. Thanks for thanks for listening in for volunteering of both of America.

Of course. Thank you so much. Hello. Hi, this is Erin. It is well, you're on with John. This is Love It or leave it. We're calling because you've got a story about phone banking that you wanted to share. How are you doing?

Just love it on the floor. Yes, it is. That's right. This is this is me. I'm on the horn. I'm on the blower. You got you're on the horn.

Oh, my God. That's so exciting.

Hi. Hi. So you want me to share my story?

Yeah. Share a story. Where are you, by the way? What part of the world are you in right now? I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area. Oh, man. South of San Francisco. Man Yeah. How's that? How's the air? A little bit better.

That's what you know, just talk to somebody from Sacramento. They said the same thing. I'm glad the air is a little bit better today. Yeah. What are you. Well, let me ask you this before we get to your phone call. What do you streetman?

One of my streaming. I'm so glad you asked. So I have gotten obsessed with this show.

So you're going to make sounds. Are you going to make something up? It sounds like you're stalling to try to come up with something.

No, I want to make sure to explain it properly because I'm super excited about it. It's a show that was originally out of Norway called Scam. Have you heard of it? Mm hmm.

No, it's a Norwegian show about Norwegian teenagers. And the third season is about this, a homosexual relationship between these two very handsome young men and so far so good. I love it.

So I've been watching that. Yeah. I think immune to it. I've been watching that as words on the bottom, huh.

It does. You do have to read it. Mm hmm. Nice try. Yes. All right, Aaron, what's your story?

So I've been I adopted Arizona for four adopted state because my mother in law lived there and for the very first time was making calls two weeks ago. And most of the calls were either hang ups or they would say, oh, I can't talk right now. I'll call you later. And I got a couple of people who are super excited about Joe Biden and Mark Kelly. So that was great. But the last call that I had was a guy picked up and he said, you know, I only have a few minutes.

I'm at lunch right now waiting for my date to show up. And I was like, okay, great. I launch into my spiel about how important the election is and is excited to vote for Joe Biden. And before I could even get through that, I overhear the waiter come over and he says, I'm sorry, sir, but you've been here half an hour. We've got people waiting. So we just have to make sure that you order something.

Can you just order something? And the guy's like, I'm waiting for my date. She'll be here any minute. But yeah, OK, I'll order some drinks.

So he orders the drinks. So Waiter leaves and then he comes back on and he's like, I'm sorry about this. I'm so excited for this date. I finally got the nerve to ask this woman out at the yoga studio, but she's half an hour late and I'm like, OK, great, good for you. So anyway, back to Joe Biden.

And then before I could again get through my spiel, he comes back, the waiter comes back and says, you know, I just talked to my manager. My manager says, it's great that you ordered drinks, but we actually need you to order some food because we have people waiting. We need to move this along. And the guy says, I'm really sorry she's on her way. I swear she is OK. I'm going to order some food.

So we order food and I'm just listening the whole time and then eventually devolved into the waiter coming back saying, listen, dude, I don't think she's going to show up.

It's how long has it been? Oh, it's been half an hour. The worst can meet this girl.

It's like a play. It's a play. I'm just listening to it like old timey radio show.

I love that. And so I'm enthralled at this point. I don't even care about trying to get them to come here to vote for you.

I mean, I can admit that, yeah, I care, but I'm like just in transition.

So eventually it ends up the waiter asks the guy I called, where did you meet this woman? And he said, Oh, I met her at this yoga studio on whatever street. And the guy said, Oh, my girlfriend goes to yoga there. Oh yeah. It's great. You should try it. It's like, well, wait a minute, what's your girlfriend's name? And the waiter said, it's Tatiana. And I'm just like, oh, no.

And then the guy I said, wait a minute. The girl that I know, I know where to go.

Oh, yes.

Yes. What's that? I'm just I start at that point. I'm like, this has to be a bit this can't be real.

So I just start listening and I start cracking up.

And the waiters like that, like I'd say they're like back and forth. And I'm just I'm laughing so hard at that point. I'm like, OK, I'm going to say that you're voting for Biden, so I'll talk to you later. Just hung up because it was your good. So, yeah, so many questions, one, where is this hustling and bustling restaurant in the midst of a pandemic right now to clear the tables out? That's my first question.

Second question, is Tatiana trying to send a message to her fiancee?

Because even if she's trying to blow off the guy, you tried to blow off somebody that was hitting on you at a yoga studio and you said, fine, I'll go on a date with you. It seems insane to make the fake date at the restaurant where your real fiancee works.

Right. So my my take on this is that this was just a bit that these guys do and it wasn't real. So you think that's that's how I'm processing it. Right.

So I just the name Tatiana has a vaguely dumb comedy bit vibe as well, but so they're just waiting for phone banking people to call.

Well, that I don't know. I mean, it is a swing state, so maybe they're just getting so many political calls that they're just like, oh, I know how to deal with this or they're, I don't know, actors just trying to make this. I have no idea. I wish I had I wish I had more of a window into what actually happened.

Did you hear the ambient sounds of plates and cups and bustle and restaurant noise or. No.

No, not really. And what was also odd and made me doubt it was how clearly I could hear the waiter, you know, and I go, I see.

I see. That made me think it was on. So rather than just some guy actually holding it up to his ear, I don't know if it was real. That's amazing. But I just thought my very first day ever of phone banking and this I get this like performance art. I love that call of the day.

It was amazing.

Well, Aaron, what a story. Yes. John, I want to thank you for sharing that with me.

Thank you for making a suggestion that I watch handsome Norwegian gay bashing ship dramas, though, given the fact that it is subtitled and the current sort of 60 percent capacity.

I know of my brain and I will say they're short. So that's something. And let me tell you, John, these these young men are just delicious. So give it a try. Give it a try.

Well, look, you're making the best case possible. But if I had to the show, I can't play Cattan on my phone. Aaron, thank you so much for being here.

John, can I say something really quick before you go? Think first of all, thanks for calling, but I wanted to say quickly on a personal level, last year I was dealing with a lot with my parents. They were kind of falling apart physically and mentally. And so on the weekends, I would go visit them and help them with shopping and, you know, life stuff. And my reward for myself when I was coming home was always to listen to love it or leave it on Saturday.

So thank you for that. It made a lot of difference to me.

Well, Aaron, thank you. That means a lot. Thank you so much. And thank you. Thank you for listening and thanks for sharing that. I mean, you know, you know, especially lately we put these shows out, we do it over the Internet. And, you know, I miss the audience reaction to feed both my ego and my sense of what's working and what's not. So it means a lot, you know. So thank you so much.

Thanks, John. Thanks for everything you guys are doing to save America and love it or leave it and getting everybody motivated it it's the kick in the ass a lot of us need. So thanks for that.

Good. Well, thanks for sharing your story. I think it'll give other people inspiration to get involved to really appreciate it.

I hope so. I hope so. Thanks, John. Take care. Bye bye. We come back.

I'm joined by Varshney Prokosch. We had a great conversation about the climate change we're seeing with with our own eyes every single day and what's been happening in the fight to make sure we not only elect Joe Biden, but put in place the progressive climate plan that we need take.

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Hey, John. Good to be here. Thanks for having me. It feels so small to say this, but climate change is on a lot of our minds this week, hopefully more than this week, too.

Yeah, but well, you know, we're hearing I'm in California. We're confronting smoke. We have five storms now in the Atlantic. We've just seen incredible storms ravaging the Midwest. There was that derecho that did incredible damage to Cedar Rapids. Climate change is here. It's here in a profound way. And perhaps you we'll see in the next couple of weeks that it may begin to reshape public opinion again in surprising ways. But right now, this is being seen virtually entirely through the political lens.

We've seen Trump talking about climate change. We've seen Joe Biden give a speech about climate change. I think we know where Trump is on this issue. I want to talk about Biden specifically. I want to I basically want to divide into three pieces. I want to know if you think he's saying the right things. I want to know if you think he's going to do the right things. Then I want to talk about what each of us can do in this fight.

So let's start with his speech. What did you think of Joe Biden's speech on climate that he gave in Delaware? What were your reactions to it?

I thought this was one of his best speeches to date. I thought he effectively communicated the damage of the crisis on so many people's lives, millions of acres of land and homes lost like lives that have been ruined, burned. And I appreciated the way that he connected the triple impact of economic downturn, the health pandemic and the climate crisis on families kind of collectively, you know. So he was really good at talking about the devastation.

But actually what I found to be the most compelling and inspiring about the speech was the way in which Biden conveyed the ultimate opportunity that is inherent in tackling the climate crisis. Right. I think for so long we have posed this issue as something that is like taking away things from Americans, taking away things or or that is punitive in some kind of way or just about like clinging on to some semblance of normalcy and life. Like, that's depressing. Yeah, I think we could be talking about this.

And I think Joe Biden did a really good job of this a couple of days ago about an investment, an investment in essentially like a prosperous future for America. He detailed creating an extensive workforce like millions of good paying unionized jobs as part of one of the largest green jobs and infrastructure plans in recent memory, making sure that no mom has to bathe her baby in water that could contain methane or lead lowering energy bills, increasing quality of life, getting super cool and fast public transportation.

The fact that he focused both on shared pain but also shared possibility. That to me is a winning message for Joe Biden. And it was exciting to see.

It was interesting. What I what I was thinking about when I saw the speech is we've been talking about the harms of climate change and what they might be for a long time. We've even begun talking about how people might feel them. But what was striking is, I think for the first time, I think in a long time, Americans generally are kind of confronting how the world can change. Right? I mean, they're just seeing it and feeling it in real ways.

And what he did that was interesting that no one was in a position to do before because we haven't been in a pandemic before. Is he connected? Donald Trump won't make you safe in this pandemic because he won't listen to science. I think a lot of people have seen the pandemic as an analogy to the climate. But he made the climate an analogy to the pandemic. I agree. In terms of reframing this around the opportunity, how important do you think it is?

How big of a deal do you think it will be that people are seeing the harm? Do you think that that's breaking through, even though so much of it is happening in, say, California state, that's already pretty democratic?

No, absolutely. I think it's essential. And I mean, as you pointed out at the beginning of the show, it isn't it isn't just California. Yes, it is egregious. It is terrifying. It's like we're hearing stories about mobile morgues and things like that that the governor of Oregon is having to implement to collect bodies. I mean, it is it is really terrifying stuff. It's literally hell on earth, but it's like we're seeing storm after storm after storm that is hurting communities in the Gulf South.

Some of these communities, like southwest Louisiana, have been one of the worst for covid rates around in the entire country. You're seeing storms in Brooklyn. You're seeing Derechos inland in Iowa. And I mean, there are probably just millions of acres of farmland that will never be recovered as a result of the climate catastrophes that have taken place, not just in California, although I think we should care about those people, too, even if it doesn't matter for the electoral map.

It's while we have that conversation, like, yeah, no, you bet. It's wild. It's wild. And so, you know, I think there's three reasons why it's happening. One, the. Just visceral, immediate impacts of the climate crisis are like right in front of our faces. It's impossible to miss it. And now I think the media is starting to catch up with it as well. And we're seeing the climate crisis as like front page news in so many publications across the country, too.

We're seeing a lot of both insurgent candidates, but also candidates like Jay Inslee and Elizabeth Warren really prioritizing this issue and I think elevating the issue on the campaign trail. But also you're seeing a ton of down ballot champions as well. And then three, of course, the piece that I'm very excited about is we have an activated, mobilized base of young people, but also just people across the country that are ready to throw down and who are saying, you know what, like defeating Trump.

That's just the first thing that we have to do after that. It's like day in and day out, we're going to have to battle the fast food industry and a climate denying GOP to ultimately manifest many of the campaign promises that Joe Biden has made in the last few months. All three of those pieces together are what's ultimately shifting public opinion, and I think making this a priority in the nation, moving into this election.

So let's talk about Joe Biden on policy. One thing that was striking or that one difference, I actually talked to Jay Inslee about this when he was on Love It or leave it, that Joe Biden had actually set the same targets but was avoiding committing right to some of the intermediate steps because that required a little bit more political pain and required a little bit more of an admission about some of the tradeoffs that are inevitable in any kind of climate discussion. And what I what I took from that was here we have somebody who is embracing the political and moral imperative of addressing climate change and wanting to have sunrise movement, working and fighting for him and believing that he is the right person to win, while at the same time recognizing the crisis while trying to manage, I think, real legitimate political questions about how climate change can be used as a weapon by the Republicans against Joe Biden.

He's now put out a revised plan that speaks to some of those intermediate steps. I believe you can tell me if I if I have anything wrong. How do you feel about where Joe Biden is right now? How effective do you think the activists have been in moving him? And where would you want to see him go next?

Yeah, he has improved by leaps and bounds from where we were just three months ago or four months ago. In large part, I think what is exciting about this moment and I think what is the critical difference between Joe Biden and Donald Trump? I mean, there's a lot, obviously, but like one of them is that Joe Biden has shown that he is movable, that there is actually space to contest and move and shape the Democratic establishment and sort of his administration should he win in November.

And so we saw movement from a 20 50 target around decarbonizing the power sector, moving that up to twenty, thirty five, which is a 15 year timeline increase and means that he actually has to move on some of those promises in this cycle. Not a decade from now. We saw him move from a one point seven trillion dollar climate plan that he unveiled in twenty nineteen to now a two trillion dollar green jobs and infrastructure plan and a commitment that 40 percent of that investment will directly go to low income communities, marginalized communities, communities of color, et cetera, who have historically been left out of economic prosperity in this country.

Know, I could go on for a while about the different improvements, but I think it's sort of a bittersweet moment when I do think that Joe Biden has moved considerably to we are in a race against time for the viability of human existence as we know it, like we kick the can down the road for 40 years. And now this thing is a full blown emergency. And the problem is when you start seeing the manifestations in a really visible way of the climate crisis, that means we are getting extremely, extremely close to the point of no return where some of these feedback loops just get thrown into motion.

And it's very, very difficult to correct course afterwards. So what we could have done in 40 years, we have now got to do in five to 10. And I think that means that movements and politicians and everybody out there has got to keep pushing to ratchet up ambition constantly because you better believe, like the other side is out there trying to water down these policies, as you experienced first hand in the administration.

So Biden has moved to the left, or at very least he has embraced goals to make some of the targets he had set possible and some of the Green New Deal targets possible. At the same time, it does seem that he feels that there's a political imperative around saying things like, I won't ban fracking or things like that.

What do you make of that? Like, what is your reaction when you see that kind of a statement from Vice President Biden?

It's a political calculation as somebody who knows that we needed to have stopped burning fossil fuels like yesterday. It is a terrifying notion that people in high leadership in the Democratic Party believe that we can continue to burn natural gas or even continue to validate ridiculous positions like it being a bridge fuel, that is just simply not true. And so we're going to continue to advocate and say that we've got to get off of fossil fuels fast. I think the first step of that is getting the guy in office.

And then on day one, after we elect him, pushing hard to not only have him make good on the campaign promises he's already made, but also further a lot of his goals. And I think fossil fuels are definitely on that list.

With each passing day, the climate emergency feels both more real and also harder. Right, as you're saying. All right. With each passing day, the problem gets more difficult. With each passing day, we don't make progress towards reducing our use of fossil fuels. The faster we'll need to reduce it, the more immediate break we'll have to make. What is your advice to people listening to stay in the fight? And what do you think is the most helpful thing?

People listening can do right now that are working to help elect Joe Biden, but also want to know what they can do specifically to be good climate advocates?

When I think about the kind of movement that we need in the United States of America to ultimately contest and win, to potentially pass literally dozens of pieces of legislation at the federal level. And like you remember how hard it was to pass one piece of legislation that was, you know, whatever. Like, it is almost unfathomable for me growing up at the time that that we're growing up in to imagine the level of policymaking that is essential to tackle the climate crisis.

But we've got to do it. We have no other choice. The buck doesn't stop with defeating Trump. We then have to actually act upon everything that we are advocating for on the campaign trail. So I would say if you are looking for something to do, join a movement, join an organization that has a plan to build power long term, that is actually engaging people in grassroots movements and organization, that is leveraging that collective power at the local level or the state level or the federal level.

It doesn't have to just be national politics. It could be your local city council or it could be a state level race or legislative fight. Whatever it is, we are going to need a movement of literally millions and millions of people who are fighting this day in and day out. And I really believe that it is possible if you look at some of the most far reaching environmental policy that was passed in the United States, like the creation of the EPA, the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, the Endangered Species Act, all of that happened under President Nixon.

And it happened because obviously there was organizing happening far before this. But on the first Earth Day in 1970, 20 million people participated and rallied and organized and got engaged. Yeah, I know a lot of people are thinking, you know, am I the right person? Am I smart enough? Is this my place? Like, I don't know if I want to get involved. You are exactly who we need. And we need you to get involved right now because it is our very lives and our very futures and the very existence of humanity on this planet that is at stake.

Yeah, beautifully put. It's also worth remembering to right that that movement was also born of an emergency. People saw environmental degradation before their eyes. They saw rivers catch fire. They saw the Grand Canyon filled with smog. They saw California covered in smog in a way that was deeply, deeply unhealthy. And people rose up totally. And, you know, we can talk about how hard it was to pass Waxman Markey through the House. But the one thing Waxman Markey didn't have is they didn't have the Sunrise movement.

Not yet. Exactly.

That's what Ed Markey said to virtually any British.

Thank you so much for your time. It was so good to talk to you and stay safe out there. Yes, same to you. Thanks, John. Thanks.

Diversity no for joining us. When we come back, we'll end on a high note.

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Hey, this is Glenn in North Carolina. Rimmington, I'm kind of a loner in a high note at the same time, I just found out about it. I am devastated. I have already been texting for Biden. I have been sending letters to vote forward. And I just talked to a friend of mine who is heartbroken and said she didn't know what she could do to help. So I got her to sign up and so save America. And she is some thinking for Detroit tomorrow.

So we got this. We got this. Hey, John, my name is Jamie and I live in New Mexico and my Heino this week was that my senator, Senator Martin Heinrich, asked me to testify before the Senate subcommittee in the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee. And despite my incredible anxiety, I did it. And it was just really cool to have a great one.

I love it. I'm calling from one of the many smoky towns in Oregon. My personal highlight this week is finding out that my parents home is still standing after my entire hometown was burned down along with my dad shot. My political highlight this week, though, that my dad put the Joe Biden sign on a metal pole so no one could mess with it. And we found out that also survived. So there's a lot to be sad about in the last debate before.

Thanks, guys.

They love it. This is Ellen healin. I'm a high school teacher in Santa Barbara. And my high note this week was that I was asked by students to be the Gay Straight Alliance Club advisor via Zoome. Of course, this is the greatest honor of my five year long career. And I'm so happy that in the dark void that is Zoome school, I'm fortunate enough to have this new thing to look forward to and lucky enough to work with these students.

Thanks so much for bringing me so many smiles on my walks with my dog.

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