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Now, broadcasting from the underground command post, deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick and steel of a nondescript building, we've once again made contact with our leader, Mike Love. Hey, my name is Doc Washburn, is honored to be filling in for the great one again, especially in such an historic occasion for everyone who's been saying no one is ever going to be held accountable for the attempt to try to take down Donald Trump and his administration.

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For everyone who's been saying, wake me up if anyone's ever indicted, yada, yada.

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Or worse, something I saw on social media recently, the Durham investigation is just ahead, Sigma for all of those people today, the first indictment of a of a member of the cabal who broke laws to try to take down a legally elected president was not only announced, but the perp pleaded guilty today.

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Come on. What up, what up, what up? Talk to me, Casey, do you like it? I left today pretty good.

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By the way, by the way, the great one, Mark Levin, called this three and a half years ago. So what an honor to have filled in for him on February 5th this year, the day President Trump won the impeachment vote in the United States Senate, forever exonerated. And now again, August 14th, 2020, the day the first perp and the Obama gay coup attempt pleads guilty.

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Oh, but did we catch them in the act or what? You know what I'm told? Oh, did we catch them in the act? Yes, sir. They are very embarrassed. They never thought they were going to get caught. We caught them.

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That's right, Mr. President. You sure did. You know, I've been saying this for a long time. Attorney General William Barr and U.S. Attorney John Durham are coming and there's nothing anyone can do about it. So everybody who's been saying for the last three and a half years, I am so tired of this, I've lost my patience, patience, I've given up, I don't think anybody's anything's going to ever happen. Nobody's going to be held accountable.

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Let me remind you something that I said when I filled in for the great one the day before Thanksgiving last year. If you're going to take a shot at the king. You better not miss. And in this case, the king is the deep state, I don't know how. To say any more clearly. Then the fact that this coup attempt. This conspiracy was so broad, so widespread. It was in multiple different parts of our intelligence community and intelligence communities of other countries.

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And anyone. Who was to be indicted? Would have access to the finest criminal defense attorneys money can buy. And these are some really bad characters. And so William Barr and John Durham had to take their time and other U.S. attorneys had to take their time and make sure all the T's are crossed and all the I's are dotted. So today, today, the first domino fell. All right. More about all that in a moment. But before I get too far ahead of myself, let me tell you a little bit about who I am.

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My name is Doc Washburn. I do the afternoon drive talk show at Marks Affiliate in Little Rock, Arkansas. I come on right before Mark Levin on K.R. in in Little Rock.

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Before that, I did a late night talk show at Mike's affiliate in Charlotte, North Carolina. But I grew up in Charlotte, by the way. And before that, even I did talk radio in Panama City, Florida, and Savannah, Georgia. I did music radio for 20 years. I got into talk radio in 1997. So I have to tell you about a surreal experience. I was listening to Mark last night and toward the end of the first hour, something totally unexpected happened.

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Mark asked Mr. Producer who was going to be filling in for him tonight.

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And I mentioned my name, Doc Washburn, on the radio and had some some kind things to say about me and I was just blown away. Now, you might think this is crazy, the connection that I made, but I'm a music guy. So it reminded me of an interview I heard with classic rock star Neil Young a couple of years after the tragic plane crash which took the lives of several members of the Southern rock band, Leonard Skittered. And the interviewer asked Neil what he thought the first time he heard Skynyrd's song Sweet Home Alabama with these lyrics.

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So Neal's response. Well, first of all, I really like the way they played their guitars, and then when I heard my own name coming out of the radio speakers, I thought, now this is just too good to be true.

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And that's exactly how I felt when I heard Mark mention my name on the on the radio last night. OK, well, no. OK, I get it. OK, well, not exactly in the interest of full disclosure, I have never actually heard Mark play guitar. Good catch, Mr. Producer. Appreciate that. But other than that, I hope it makes sense.

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Now, a couple of things. A couple of things. Before we get back to the the big news of today, if you would like to call in and get in on the conversation, as always, the number to call the Mark Levin Show is 877 three eight one three eight one one. Also very important this Sunday night on Life, Liberty and Levin on Fox News Channel. Mark discusses Joe Biden picking California Senator Kamala Harris to be his vice presidential running mate with Mark Pulliam, attorney and contributing editor of Law and Liberty, plus Joe Concha, media reporter at the Hill dot com.

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All right. Now, all that having been said again, eight seven seven three eight one three eight one one to call in. OK, let's get to the big news today.

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The guilty plea by the first of the Obama gate coup plotters to fall. FBI attorney Kevin Kleinsmith now, first of all, Mark sounded the alarm that the Obama administration spied on President Trump way back almost three and a half years ago on this very radio show, March 2nd, 2017.

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That's very early and took a lot longer than that for a lot of people to.

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To pick up on it. Then he went on Fox and Friends Sundy that weekend made the case there as if that wasn't enough, he went on Sean Hannity's popular Fox News Channel TV show the following Monday to get the word out.

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Now, here's how Chris Pandolfi, a conservative review Dotcom, described it all the way back in March 2017, he said Mark Levin gave an interview on Fox News, Fox and Friends weekend, Sunday morning, in which he laid out the case against the Obama administration use of police state tactics. Against President Donald Trump, those remarks words, police, state tactics, and boy, was he right. Levin said the evidence is overwhelming, using public records and mainstream media reporting, he showed how the Obama administration obtained a FISA court warrant.

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Foreign Intelligence Service. A FISA court warrant to surveil Donald Trump's presidential campaign in 2016. The question is to what extent? That the Obama administration spy on Donald Trump's campaign and how much did President Obama know? Mark Levin took pains to reiterate that the evidence of spying by the Obama administration was not his own speculation.

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The mainstream media have presented the case in the course of a year of reports on the Obama administration, Levin just connected the dots, by the way, by the way, let me just digress for a second here. Never forget, Mark Levin is an attorney and a really good one. And good attorneys are trained to connect the dots. Chris Plante also over at Conservative UNIKOM back in March 2017.

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He said going forward, Mark Levin said the Trump administration ought to pursue the release of the Obama administration's FISA court warrants and the documents regarding the application for those warrants. A congressional investigation into the extent of the spying on Trump's campaign is necessary, and Congress should request copies of President Obama's daily intelligence briefings for the duration of the surveillance on Donald Trump's campaign. As for President Trump, he should appoint a deputy attorney general to investigate from the executive branch. It's time to get to the bottom of this.

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And boy, talk about get to the bottom of this. They certainly did. They certainly did. I mean, obviously, back in March 2017, none of us could have seen William Barr and John Durham and all the other U.S. attorneys involved in this coming. But indeed, they did get to the bottom of it.

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Now, what I want to do coming up, I want to get into the specifics of what happened today with the guilty plea being announced of FBI attorney Kevin Kleinsmith.

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And don't let the mainstream media and even Wikipedia fool you on this.

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He was by no means a low level FBI attorney, by no means. Once again, the number to call in the conversation, eight seven seven three eight one three eight one one.

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This is Doc Washburn, as happy as a pig in mud to be filling in for my buddy, the great one. Mark Levin.

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Dog was brought in for the great one, Mark Levin, from sea to Shining Sea.

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Let me just give you a little bit about Kleinsmith before we get to your calls here at three Palmy at eight seven seven three eight one three eight one one may as well go to the great Sean Davis over the Federalist.

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He says a top FBI lawyer who fabricated evidence in a federal spy warrant against Trump campaign affiliate Carter Page is expected to plead guilty to federal charges brought by U.S. Attorney John Durham.

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Kevin Kleinsmith, who is expected to admit to deliberately fabricating evidence in a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant application used to spy on a former campaign affiliate of President Donald Trump, was a top attorney in the FBI's Office of General Counsel.

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And. A key agency attorney under fired former FBI Director James Comey. So, like I said before the break, Dawn, the mainstream media fool you, this is not some kind of low level guy. Kleinsmith is the first individual to be charged as part of U.S. Attorney John Therms investigation into the efforts in 2016 and 2017 to spy on the Trump campaign.

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The Trump administration, both Durham and Attorney General William Barr stated at the conclusion of the inspector general investigation of the Carter Page FISA warrants that they had reason to believe the entire investigation of Trump, which allegedly began late July 2016, was not legally predicated. In other words, there was no legal excuse to begin investigating Trump. Now, Durham was tapped by bar. Or at least BA announced. And he attached to Durham May of twenty nineteen, who knows how long he's been working on it to investigate the Russian collusion hoax and determine whether any criminal charges against those who perpetrated it were warranted.

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Kevin Kleinsmith deliberate falsification of a federal spy warrant was first revealed last December following a lengthy investigation by the Justice Department Office of the Inspector General, headed by Michael Horowitz. He and his team wrote and a four hundred thirty four page report that Kleinsmith altered an email from a separate U.S. federal agency, the CIA, to falsely state Carter Page had never worked with the CIA. So they can investigate suspected pardon me that he had never worked with the CIA to investigate suspected Russian agents operating within the U.S..

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In fact, as Kleinsmith was told by the CIA operative, Page had worked with the CIA previously, as well as with the FBI. So the inspector general comes out with a report last December says Kleinsmith admitted Carter Page's prior relationship with another U.S. government agency, despite being reminded by the other agency June 2017, prior to the filing of the final FISA warrant renewal application about Carter Page's past status with that other agency, instead of including this information and the final renewal application.

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Inspector general said Kleinsmith altered an email from the other agency, so the email stated Carter Page was not a source for the other agency, which the FBI relied upon in signing the final renewal application. So after the inspector general investigation was completed, the investigation into the abuse of the FISA process by Jim Comey and his lieutenants, the federal court, the reviews FISA warrants ruled at least two of the four applications against Carter Page were illegal, including the application that included Kevin Kleinsmith fabricated claim that Carter Page never previously assisted the CIA.

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Carter Page's previous work for the federal government was a key issue given the each of the FISA warrant uses spying and falsely claimed he was an illegal Russian agent working on behalf of the Kremlin, Carter Page was never formally charged with any wrongdoing. Kleinsmith name first made national news after his anti Trump text messages to another FBI attorney, Sally Moyer, surfaced following a different inspector general investigation of anti Trump bias from top FBI attorneys and investigators. Kleinsmith, Texas, to shortly after Trump won the presidential election in November 2016.

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Quote, I'm just devastated. Plus, my name is all over the legal documents investigating his stuff. Unquote, Moyer later asked Kleinsmith, Is it making you rethink your commitment to the Trump administration, essentially referring to Kleinsmith plan to remain at the FBI after Trump's inauguration, Kleinsmith responded, quote, Hell no. Viva la resistance.

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And then John Davis, the Federalists links to the full federal charging document detailing Kleinsmith crimes now.

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Having said all that. There is a tidbit in the charging documents. I don't know if anybody's talked about this yet today, Mr. Kleinsmith lawyers also argued that their client did not try to hide the CIA e-mail from other law enforcement officials as they sought the final renewal of the page wiretap. Mr. Kleinsmith had provided the unchanged CIA email to CROSSFIRE hurricane, FBI agents and the Justice Department lawyer drafting the original wiretap application, which brings up the question who else knew about Kleinsmith lives?

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Who else?

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And again, the thing about Carter Page is if you get a warrant to surveil him, you get two options to surveil everybody.

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He emails and everybody, those people email. And that's how they were trying to get to Trump.

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Eight seven seven three eight one three eight one one. Washburne returning on the Mark Levin Show show.

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Mark Lovette, America's Tyranny Hotter Call now eight seven seven three eight one three eight one one.

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All right, Doc Washburn, aim for the great one, Mark Levin, who will be back Monday night.

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So I just I just shared with you this article from Sunday was sort of the federal's explaining the significance. Of the announcement of the guilty plea of top FBI lawyer Kevin Kleinsmith today, I was running out of time, going to the bombing, our break. I just want to make sure.

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You understand? Why they wanted Carter Page and George Papadopoulos and whoever else, if you get a FISA court warrant. To spy on someone. The government allows you the federal statute allows you. What they call to Hoppes. So you spy on that person. Text message, email, whatever. And also one top spy on everybody they're communicating with. And then a second hop spy on everybody they're communicating with, and that's how they were trying to get Trump and whoever else was high up in the.

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And the campaign and then the administration. Now, having said that. Sean Davis, one of the people I follow on on Twitter over the Federalist, and somebody asked some guy named Jeff Jaisha if I'm saying that, pronounce pronouncing that correctly. Yes. Sean Davis.

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Am I reading all this correctly, that they weaponized Carter Page's intelligence work on behalf of the United States in order to frame him as a traitor?

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And Sean Davis says, yep, a former naval officer helped U.S. Attorney Palmy helped U.S. authorities track down Russian spies and the corrupt Jim Comey. FBI falsely told the FISA court those contacts prove that Carter Page was himself a treasonous Russian spy. All right, can you imagine? The level of depravity. That's going on here. This is this is no small time penny ante criminal stuff. The level of depravity. That has to exist for people to be willing to do this.

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Is just flabbergasting to me. No, I'm saying. All right, eight, seven, seven. Three eight one three eight one one, let me go to George in San Diego. George, you are on the Mark Levin Show with Doc Washburn filling in.

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What's up? Yes, thank you. I'll bet you there are thousands I mean, thousands upon thousands of your listeners today that are feeling exactly as I am. And that is that, well, they've thrown us a bone. You know, we have we have anxiously awaited results from what in any other situation would have come within within months, if not weeks. And we're waiting for some substance here. And I'm telling you, I feel, as I'm sure others do, that they're just throwing a bone.

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You refer to climate as a high up in the in the FBI organization. Look, it's got to go a lot higher than that. I mean, where are we going when I hear that indictments have come down for James Comey? Indictments have come down for four Clapper and the rest of them. Then I'll start believing again. You know, I love my country, but I totally distrust my government. And I don't give a damn which party is in there as a just as a private citizen, I'm getting damn tired of constantly being thrown bombs.

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And now to listening to Hannity earlier today, the only people that have benefited from this whole damn thing are those writing books about this. You know, you can take your credit card and your Solomon and all of this always, always coming out with breaking news. Something big to do and nothing big ever happens in this Kleinsmith thing is big at all.

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So you don't think Kleinsmith is going to roll over on anybody bigger? No, of course, he's not going to roll over. He's not going to be forced to pay. He's not going to be forced to. He's going to walk out of there. He's probably obviously going to be going to be forced out of the out of the agency. And I was forced out a long time ago.

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So so let me make sure I understand. So as far as you're concerned, when Donald Trump interviewed William Barr and then William Barr interview John Durham, each one told the other, look, I'm just kidding about wanting people held accountable. I don't I don't really want I just want them all to walk. And when I leave office after a second term, I want to have to look over my shoulder the rest of my life to see these bad guys are gaining on me.

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I don't want anybody going to prison. I want anybody held accountable.

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That that that's your belief. And my belief is they've all got filth on each other, and like I said earlier, you know, look, I'm 74 years old. I served I served 18 months in Vietnam. I gave up wow. Great segment of my life. And but I totally distrust what's happening. And I believe that we as American citizens, just common Joes, if you will, that work for we're all being just tossed a bone to keep us to just to keep us quiet until after the election in November.

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Now, should Donald Trump be defeated, which God hope he doesn't or that he isn't? But if he is, this is all just going to go away. And anybody that doesn't believe that the downfall.

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Well, I mean, Barr even admitted he understood it would all go away if Trump was defeated. And of course, that's something we can agree on. First of all, I appreciate your service. God bless you. It's people like you that have, you know, risked their lives so the rest of us can have freedom. But as big as this conspiracy was, it is just remarkable to me that you would think that they could get to the bottom of it and roll out indictments in a matter of weeks.

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That just doesn't make any sense to me. I think they could have rolled out indictments months ago, if not a year ago. Look, I'm frustrated and I know that you have tens of thousands of listeners right now that are frustrated. I mean, show us the money. Show us the money, you know, to quote the phrase, yeah.

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Yeah. OK, George, thank you so much for your call. Appreciate you. God bless you. Thank you very much. I have no doubt whatsoever. But Donald Trump picked the right guy for attorney general and the William Barr pick the right guy for. The charging documents today on Kleinsmith said that. It called John Durham, special attorney to the attorney general. I've never seen it before. All right, final pardon me. I almost gave up my local number in Little Rock eight seven seven three eight one three eight one one.

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Let me go with Corey in Corpus Christi, Texas.

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You are on the Mark Levin Show with Doc Washington filling in for the great one. What's up?

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Hey, doc, I kind of want to echo the last caller. I mean, I guess we're all pretty cynical now. What's going on in government? Maybe that's why. Yeah, well, I agree with Kleinsmith is, you know, he's a good catch. Yeah. But he's not he's not Klapper. He's not Baqer. He's not he's not KOMY access to some of the best defense attorneys in the world.

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And these guys have all been giving interviews. They've all been talking to bring it to Durham and Durham people. And no good defense attorney is going to let their client give interviews if they think there's ever going to be an indictment coming. How do I know?

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I talked to Durham and who hasn't talked to Durham. Huh? How do we know who's talked to Durham and who hasn't talked to Durham? Well, they've put out that Durham talk to Klaper and he's talked to bring them in.

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Well, the mainstream media, based on anonymous sources, will put out all kinds of stuff. I you know, a lot of times they're wrong.

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But let me ask you something. The same thing I asked George in San Diego, Do you really think the Kleinsmith not going to roll over on bigger people? Do you really think that he gets off on just this one count because he wasn't willing to cooperate with federal prosecutors? No, no.

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I'm sure that he's going to talk. I mean, who's in his position? I mean, I know he's he's down for the resistance, but he's not down for that much. But I think here's the here's the problem. If they if he if, let's say, Bar and Durham, find out a whole bunch of stuff and it leads them right back to Obama and Vice President Biden. Yeah. Now and they have them dead to rights hands in the cookie jar.

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Yeah. Now they have a problem because what do you think is going to happen if they have the ability and they know they should to indict President Obama and Vice President Biden. Yeah.

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Who were both in that January 5th, 2017 meeting just a couple of weeks before Trump took over. And obviously, they were very much part of the conspiracy to take down Michael Flynn. Now, that is an excellent question, Corey, and I'm going to try to deal with it coming up on the other side of the break.

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I appreciate your call and appreciate that that's that's very compelling. That's a great thought starter. And we'd have to deal with that on the side of the on the other side of the break. More of your calls coming up at eight seven seven three eight one three eight one one. Doc Washburn filling in for the great one. Mark Levin.

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Hillsdale teaches them how to defend liberty. And they do that for you, too. Through their free monthly digest of conservative thought. It's called in Primus, five point four million Americans receiving Prima's for free every month. And you, my friend and fellow freedom lover, should be reading it, too. You can subscribe for free at Lhevinne for Hillsdale Dotcom elevon free Hillsdale Dotcom. There's no strings attached. Generous donors who want to preserve freedom for future generations make it possible for hills to the Senate.

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Right, Washburn filling in for the great one from Little Rock, Arkansas. And what an honor to be here with you. All right.

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My last caller my last caller had a point. And my first couple of callers have been like, hey, we're real frustrated, man.

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We don't see anything happening. And I'm thinking, well, a lot of people were telling me nothing's going to happen, as if nothing's going to happen. And so the first indictment that I know that doesn't count. That doesn't count. Now, we got the big names and my last caller was asking about. Asking about. Obama and Biden. And by the way, Mr. Producer, the call screener just went away, so I guess I'm going to connect again.

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Yeah, OK, and maybe you'll come back. Oh, well, password there, password are in there somewhere. Live radio, isn't it fun?

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Yeah, I got the password. I got a password. I'm going to bring the the call screener back. Even as we speak, but the thing about Obama and Biden, because they were both in on the January 5th. Twenty seventeen meeting where they discussed with, I think was what Comey and struck.

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Who else is in on that? Susan Rice. Anyway, a couple other people. The ongoing attempt to get Trump by way of getting a Michael Flynn. So a lot of people aren't going to be satisfied unless Obama and Biden are in handcuffs and Hillary. And so the question.

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The question would be, this is everyone who's guilty of breaking federal laws, going after a presidential candidate's nominee and then. A president elect and then a sitting president to all those people deserve to go to prison. Well, sure, of course they do. What someone has suggested, though. Is if if. You were to indict a former president. Does that set the precedent? That the next time we have a Democrat president, he would indict Trump.

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On trumped up charges. And and. When everything comes out about this Obama gate. Investigation and how horrible what they did was and how many people do go to jail. Would the electoral consequences to the Democrat Party? Be worse than the electoral consequences were to the Republican Party after Watergate and Nixon resigned, and would they be so bad that even if. Even if Barack Obama didn't go to jail, he might wish he was in there. So that is what some folks have said, but eight, seven seven three eight one three eight one one.

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Let me. Let me grab some some more phone calls here, squeeze another one in here. Tony in L.A., you're on the Mark Levin Show.

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Doc Washington filling in. Tony, what do you think? Hi, how are you doing today? Pretty good, sir. My take, you know, having been a former federal investigator working for one of the regulatory agencies and the banking system. Yes, sir. I think that this is just the beginning or the tip of the iceberg. I believe that we have the small assistance role. Granted, he's not a little guy in terms of the organizational structure.

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I get that. But he's the first one out. And from there, typically these things will build. I share the frustration of a lot of your callers that it seems to be taking a long time. But I guess guess what? Justice does take a long time that we're going to get these guys. It doesn't happen overnight. It just takes time. Yeah, we just build a case and, you know, let things come out as they do totally themselves.

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Tony, let me ask you something. As a former federal investigator, when people tell you John Durham really couldn't get the ball rolling until after Robert Mueller's report came out, which even with 17 rabid anti Trump Democrat investigators, they couldn't find anything actionable, couldn't find anything to indict Trump or any of his people on. But that had to fully play itself out for almost two years before they could start really investigating the coup attempt and even investigating them all the team itself.

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Does that make sense to you, given your background, investigating stuff for the feds?

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Well, actually, it does. Essentially, the subterfuge that was going on with the entire Trump fiasco. Yeah. Caused caused him to delay to wait and see how things played out. And at the same time, that didn't mean that the pick and shovel work wasn't being done, that him and his team wasn't wasn't putting together the beginnings of the investigative process, but they just had to wait before they could really roll on this thing to understand the magnitude of the scope of what they were looking at.

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And I think that really, the more the report finally being issued, which took so long, gave them the go ahead to kind of the flag went up and they could go ahead and really start looking at what was coming coming down the pipeline.

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Mueller report and the and the IG report also. Exactly.

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Yeah. Got about 30 seconds here. Also, what does it say to you that the bar in Durham went to foreign countries to talk to Intel heads and heads of state in foreign countries, that people just don't realize how big and widespread this thing was and how time-Consuming it is?

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Right. Exactly right. And the scope of the investigation continued to grow as the tentacles spread out and they began to really get a sense for just how far they had to take this to really give it. Its just due to really finish the project and to finish themselves to the satisfaction of the people. Very good, Tony.

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Appreciate your call. Appreciate your service to our country. God bless you. Thank you very much. Everybody wants to talk about this today.

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Eight seven seven three eight one three eight one one more coming up after the top of the hour, Doc Washburne from Little Rock filling in for the great one, Mark Levin.

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From the Westwood One podcast network. He's here he's here now broadcasting from the underground command post, deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick and steel of a nondescript building, we've once again made contact with our leader, Mike. Doc Washburn filling in for the great one, Mark Levin from Little Rock, Arkansas, this evening and just delighted to be here. Just hit the reset button.

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You're starting our number two U.S. attorney, John Durham today charged a former FBI attorney with making a false statement the first prosecution brought as part of an inquiry into the handling of CROSSFIRE hurricane, the code name for the FBI's trouble investigation of the Trump campaign. John Durham charged Kevin Kleinsmith with one count of making a false statement committed in the process of vetting for a warrant application to spy on a former Trump campaign associate Carter Page.

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According to a criminal information filed today in a federal court in Washington, Kleinsmith altered the content of an e-mail he forwarded to an FBI special agent to say that Carter Page was not a source for the CIA. Even though the CIA had advised FBI attorney Kevin Kleinsmith that the opposite was true, the special agent then relied on the email that he had purposely adulterated to sign off on a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrant application used to spy on Carter Page, according to a report by the Department of Justice inspector general and the Criminal Information Kleinsmith contact the CIA liaison June 2017 to find out if Carter Page was a source for the CIA as part of preparations to renew the spy warrant, the liaison with the CIA responded with a list of documents and advised Kleinsmith that Carter Page had provided direct reporting to the CIA in the past.

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When the DOJ inspector general asked Kevin Kleinsmith why he subsequently described Carter Page as not a source for the CIA, Kleinsmith said he recalled the CIA liaison saying Carter Page was not a source of theirs, but rather incidentally, reporting information via a source of theirs.

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When the inspector general asked a CIA liaison about the same, the liaison said her email stated just the opposite.

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How about them apples, by the way, this is over the Epoch Times Dotcom Kleinsmith attorney Justin Shaw told the AP his client is expected to plead guilty. President Trump, who had long asserted the Obama administration spied on his campaign, told reporters, the White House, quote, That's just the beginning, I would imagine, because what happened should never happen again. The fact is, they spied on my campaign and they got caught. And you'll be hearing more.

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How about them apples before the FBI filed its first application to spy on Carter Page? The CIA had informed it in August 2016 that Carter Page was an operational contact for the CIA, that he had informed the CIA about his contacts with Russian intelligence officers. The FBI never included that information and the four spy warrant applications to the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court.

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Let me tell you how important this is, because when you are a federal agent trying to get a warrant out of the FISA court. The FISA court really has to rely on you telling the truth because. It's not like a regular court. Where the person you're going after has a defense attorney on the other side of the courtroom. Who's privy to what you're doing? So you got to tell the truth in India there there's been some civil libertarians there in Congress saying that you don't even know the FISA courts constitutional, not even sure about that.

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But. You see how I got out of hand here? Before the FBI applying for the fourth and final spy, Warren, on Carter Page, he had publicly stated he had worked with the CIA. This appears to have prompted the FBI supervisory special agent to ask Kevin Kleinsmith to reach out to the CIA to see if Page was a source for the agency. Now, this is deep into 2017 by this time.

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Kleinsmith wrote the CIA liaison before asking for confirmation of Carter Page of the source, saying, we need some clarification on him. There's an indication he may be a source, is the fact we would need to disclose to our next FISA renewal after learning of Kleinsmith e-mail forgery. A FISA court judge ordered the FBI to identify all the surveillance applications Kleinsmith was involved, and the court also barred him from participating in the preparation of future FISA applications. The plethora of errors in the applications prompted a rare rebuke from the FISA court, which ordered the FBI to prove why the court should trust any of its applications.

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According to criminal information filed today, Kleinsmith tenure at the FBI ended September 21st last year.

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Let me I mean, there's a lot more, but I want to get some callers in, I would just remind you what President Trump said a couple years ago.

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Oh, but did we catch them in the act or what? You know what I mean? Oh, did we catch them in the act?

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They are very embarrassed. They never thought they were to get caught.

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We caught them. I happen to believe in. I happen to believe in. That they did get caught. All right, eight seven seven three eight one three eight one one people all over America want to get on the Mark Levin Show. Let's see how many people we can get on Michelle. Atlantic City, New Jersey, you're on the Mark Levin Show. Doc Washerman filling in.

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What's up? Hi, how are you? Hey, they're doing great. What you got? So my whole point is that people should not be so upset that that he was the first one because they never go after the top person first, they always start at the bottom and work their way up. So there actually had to be a grand jury because they just don't indict somebody without all the information and a grand jury. So, yeah, there's probably a grand jury for him.

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And I understand there been several other grand juries already. So I think this is just the beginning of what we're going to see. And as it goes along, it's going to get better.

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And I think you're right, Michel, and I appreciate your call. God bless you. Thank you very much. One of the things you and I don't doubt, there were several grand juries because, you know, they're secret. And so we we might never know how many of them there were. Attorney General Barr did say that the covid situation. Had made some things difficult for. For John Durham here the past few months, and it delayed some things, and that was.

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You know, disappointing, but he's still going full speed ahead. He's still going full speed ahead. All right, let me talk to Jeff in Summit, New Jersey. You're on the Mark Levin Show, Doc Washington filling in.

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What's up, Jeff Gardere? Hi. Thanks for taking my call. I have to tell you, you are a great fill in host from Mark. I always enjoy hearing you.

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Were you too kind to appreciate that, you know, to one of your earlier callers who was very upset that Obama and Biden, particularly Obama, was not being indicted. And you made a point that it's sort of a dangerous precedent if we indict former presidents. But I think there's a flip side of that coin. And there I think an even more dangerous precedent. If we allow sitting presidents to violate every single law that we have in this country and then they can get away and then they can get away with it.

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And I think, you know, there's an old saying the same things from the head. And one of the reasons that we're seeing all this violence with BLM and Antifa and they feel that they can get away with it, is because from the very top, from a community organizer like Obama. Yeah. Essentially took the office of the presidency and he violated virtually all the laws that we have, particularly. You know, I believe that all of this spying on the Trump campaign couldn't have gone on without his if not his imprimatur, certainly without his knowledge and his sort of casting a blind eye towards it.

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And I think that's why we're seeing this kind of, you know, radical defiance that we have today is because you had a leader like Obama who was able to get away with this. You know, the first priority, the first obligation of a sitting president of the executive branch is to, you know, uphold and defend the laws of the land. And the constitution has been absolutely.

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Yeah, no question. No question. And I think it sets an even more dangerous precedent if when we you know. Yes, it can be it can be weaponized as everything gets weaponized. But if we truly have a solid case where we have a former president who was violated, as many was as it appears that President Obama has violated to allow him to get away with that, I think is worse than worrying about whether or not we're going to have, you know, future Congresses or future Justice departments just sort of indicting presidents willy nilly, because you really do have to have a substantial basis for indicting president.

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I think it's a pretty high bar.

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Yeah, no, I understand, Jeff, in ordinarily I take a really strong position on one side or the other of an issue in this case. I just kind of wanted to throw that out there because it's something I've still kind of thinking about. You know, I think I've heard good arguments from both sides. And and you certainly have a very good argument, like what precedent do we set if we let a president, the United States, get away with all the stuff that Obama got away with?

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Because, you know, it's pretty clear also and I appreciate your call. Thank you, Jeff. It's pretty clear from what has been said recently, social media accounts of a lot of not only social media accounts, but congressional testimony of a lot of the people who were there who were in the room, people like Sally Yates, Susan Rice.

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And looks like they're probably going to try to make Jim Comey the fall guy. Right. And if you're going to tell me. That this was all Coleman's idea. That Brennan, Obama. Sally Yates, Loretta Lynch, nobody else above me, and I don't think so. I don't think so. So, yeah, I mean, I see both sides of that. What precedent do you set? By indicting a former president. What precedent do you set by letting him get away with it and then of course, we still have the listeners who like, doggone it.

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This is just Kevin Kleinsmith. I never heard of him before. And it's not going to need anything else. And if we don't get something done by the by the election and Trump loses.

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Look, Trump's not going to lose. Joe Biden's not even running for president. Actually, that's not a presidential campaign and we could talk about that, too. And I'll get into all kinds of reasons why I think there's no chance Trump loses. But I don't want to get you complacent, I want to make sure that everyone and their millions of people within the sound of my voice, somebody said earlier that tens of thousands of people listening are probably very frustrated only at that's a very small minority of Marcal Event's audience tonight.

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There are millions of people listening tonight. Each one of you needs to go out there and vote Republican. Straight down the line. More calls coming up, eight seven seven three eight one three eight one one. Doc Washburn filling in for the great one. Mark Levin.

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Rick Washburn filling in for Mark Levin of Little Rock, Arkansas.

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Look, they I believe they had this Kevin Kleinsmith guy, this top FBI lawyer, dead to rights.

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His name's all over everything. And the fact they let him plead to one thing today. I just think it's crazy to think that he's not going to roll over on bigger fish. That's number one. Number two, I get people saying, look, ba dum, better get the show on the road. Because if Trump were to be defeated, Barr even admitted it. Yeah, the whole thing goes out the window. If Biden were to defeat Trump, of course.

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Just tween you and me and the millions of people listening, I don't know what color the sky is in the world in which dimension Joe could actually beat. A present like Trump who's had such success in this, putting together an incredible, unprecedented economy before and after the Chinese communist coronavirus hysteria. Oh, by the way.

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Was my column, Anthony, Tony Fouche Fouche now says, I don't see why you couldn't go vote November 3rd. So is he the Democrat's hero or not? Anyway, so all year long during the primaries. You know, President Trump didn't have any any competition. And people were setting records, voting for a president, running for re-election and a party primary with no. No opposition. His number one number two, a recently politico did an article, guess how many doors the Trump campaign is knocking on to talk to voters every week?

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A million. A million dollars a week, guess how many doors dementia Joe's team is knocking on? A. Zilch, zap, not a mask, not a dang on door. Joe Biden is not run for president. A theory put out there by a buddy of mine, Bryan Cates, over it, uncovered Ask.com, is that the Democrats are stuck with him because the Ukraine deal is such a big mess of corruption that if he or his son, Hunter, are ever indicted.

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The Democrats have to make it look like Trump and Barr are going after a political opponent, they're stuck with him three days in a row now, three days in a row.

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Biden's handlers have basically herded reporters out of the room where he and Harris. Hello, small talk for the press and then no questions. No questions. No question he can't handle it. He was saying something like, Trump doesn't really want an election as they were going.

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OK, guys, come on. Come on, come on. Come on, come on. That's not how you run for president. And no, I find it remarkable and again, I love Brett there, I think he's a great reporter. But when Jared Kushner was on with him yesterday and perhaps talking about Fox News polls and Jared was saying, yeah, registered voters, not likely voters.

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And Bret, you know, said, OK, I get that you'd rather us do a poll of likely voters said register voters.

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But Breadths decision, he admitted. I don't know why they don't. Everybody is acting like even a fox, everybody's acting like the same polls that were wrong in 2016 are right this year.

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It's crazy. It's crazy. I know. I know. They're going to try to steal it. I know. But it's got to be close for them to steal it. And it's not going to be close. Eight, seven seven three eight one three eight one one.

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Doc Washburne filling it for the great one, Mark Levin. If you want to talk to Mark, we have two numbers for you to call for regular Americans call eight seven seven three eight one three eight one one four liberals call eight seven seven three eight one thirty eight 11.

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Hey, Doc Washburn here at Little Rock, Arkansas, filling in for the great one. Mark Levin, I don't know if you noticed recently the FBI. Raided offices of something called Optimus Holdings in Cleveland and Miami simultaneously. I found out about it because I stumbled across a Cleveland television station that had a report out front of one Cleveland center in Cleveland, Ohio.

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And yes, the FBI is here and they're raiding this office owned by this building this. A company owned by this Ukrainian oligarch, this Ukrainian billionaire, she talks to the spokes woman for the FBI in Cleveland. Yes, we can confirm we're also reading the same company offices down in Miami. Turns out the guy's got something called a private bank private without the E, because that's kind of cool how they spell it over there. And in Europe, which was like the main financial holder for Purisma.

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Purisma, where have I heard that before? Oh, yeah, they were the company that was giving a hunter Biden. Hunter, Biden, a million dollars a year for going to a board meeting once or twice a year. Right, right, right, right, right, right. Now everybody's saying. Well, I thought Alaba said they weren't going to go after Biden. It always pays to look at the actual. The actual statement. What Barr said was something along the lines of months ago, well, based on the information I have now, I can't see why.

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Attorney. Durham would go after anybody running for president. Well, I mean, that's a statement, so with so many holes in it, you could drive a truck through based on the information I have right now. Oh, OK. Well, maybe Darren hasn't told them everything, I'll see reason Durham would go after somebody running for president. Well, a lot of people don't realize because when Barr makes announcements, a lot of times he'll make the announcement just once.

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He's not going to beat people over the head with he's not going to remind people and the people forget about it. But months and months ago, William Barr announced that the U.S. attorney for western Pennsylvania was investigating Ukraine and all the corruption surrounding it. And it's a lot bigger than the Biden's. So. It's got nothing to do with Durham.

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So like I said, going into the break and again, again, I give credit where it's due, Brian, a guy that writes for The Epoch Times dotcom and writes for Uncover D.C. Dotcom put out the theory months ago the Democrats are stuck with Biden because the Ukraine great deal is so big and so corrupt and so many billions of dollars in U.S. aid went to Ukraine, disappeared. That if and when any indictments come down, getting anywhere near Joe Biden or Hunter Biden, the Democrats have to be able to say, oh, well, Trump and Baj is going after his political opponent.

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That's why they're running a literal dementia patient for president. Just so you know, all right, eight, seven, seven three eight one three eight one one, let's grab some phone calls. James in San Diego, we appreciate your patience, sir. You're on the Mark Levin Show with Doc Washburn filling in. What's up?

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Hi, how are you? We've been listening. Actually, I appreciate your show. But anyway, you know what would happen today with book, but of course, I'm sorry, team.

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Sounds like you're breaking up us a little bit. Are you still there? I think it would be amazing. And then one thing, it would be me that would be they go out, they already know all the answers to their questions that they've never had. I personally believe this is just a small stepping stone to a much greater rate of being much larger. But I think that they're going to go after Obama. I mean, look at fingerprints all over thing.

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You got to be stupid not to do that. Yeah, but, you know, if it was bad enough, probably they will, but we'll never get them publicly. Yes. But, you know, so I mean, I trust the Democratic part of the globe.

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And, you know, James, I got I got to say something because that reminds me something that I've said before. But I don't know if I've said on the Mark Levin show, I trust a Democrat politician as far as I can throw former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and his slightly chunkier cousin simultaneously.

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That's good. Thanks. Thanks. I'll be your all week come early Friday for the no smoking show. Thank you. But, you know, I going to let you know that this is just the beginning. This is just I mean, I think they're going to find out a lot more and a lot more is going to come out and maybe people will get exposed to a lot of other things will get exposed maybe once they start unraveling things just more than what's going into the attorney general if he finds other criminal acts and other things he can go at.

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But yes, with all the answers to everything, the questions that he's asked me, if the guy is going to lie, that's why he probably flipped really quickly because he pled guilty really quickly, because he knows if he says no to anything that they already know he's done.

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Well, not only not only that, James, and I appreciate your call. God bless you. Thank you. Not only that, but Kevin Kline, Smith's name was all over everything. They had him dead to rights.

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They had him dead to rights and so, yeah, thank you, James. All right, let's grab some more calls here at eight seven seven three eight one three eight one one. Anthony in Newport, North Carolina. That's out toward the coast, right, Anthony? Yes, sir, I'm I'm right next to the beach. It's beautiful out here, especially. Excellent, excellent.

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I just wanted to say everyone is talking and rightfully so about what Durham and BA and Trump is saying. But when I find most telling is that this rap cabman claims that he he served in the FBI under Comey. Yes. He has come out and condemned him. Right. Nothing. He's got a dirty cop working under him that led to the investigation of our president, and he's done nothing. Yeah. I just want you to mull over that. And then I got another point to these losers, these professional athletes that keep abandoning perjury and I'm sure.

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Yeah, I just wanted to put out this point because they pretend to be social justice warriors, their woak America sucks, but maybe you'll be able to answer this for me. Can you think of any other profession that has a bigger pay disparity between men and women than professional athletes? That I'm just waiting on the leadership. I'm waiting for them to split their pay with the women making this right. Equal pay for equal work?

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No, you're absolutely correct. And they they really do need to the NBA really does need to achieve some kind of parity in their paychecks with the WNBA and frankly, Major League Baseball, since they are now doing the kneeling also and there isn't a major league female baseball, they need to spend their money putting that together so they can achieve paycheck parity with something that doesn't even exist. Now, find some actual women who can play baseball and give them, you know, a lot of their money.

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If you're going to kneel and disrespect the flag, then you're asking for anther great. Colbran, I appreciate it. Thank you very much. All right. Eight, seven seven three eight one three eight one one.

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Let me go to Bill in Falls Church, Virginia. Somewhere I lived when I was a tiny, tiny tyke. Bill, you're on the Mark Levin Show. Doc Washburn filling in. What's up, sir?

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Well, thank you, doc. Now, maybe we're beyond the issue, but I know talking to your operator here, Scooter Libby. Yes. Dick Cheney's chief of staff. Yes, sir. No, it's no small thing. He was he went to jail. What, the prison for outing of Valerie Plame. Now, Valerie Plame was a witness in the CIA NOC nonofficial cover. Yeah, she was she was not an agent, but she was helping.

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And that's what Carter Page was doing. And you cannot out these people. But this guy, Kevin, whatever it Kleinsmith doing. Yeah, he's effectively outed Scooter Libby. I used to be a narc. I was in the first Bush administration. He had a Carter page. Yeah. Yeah. I suppose I knew the way he was answering the questions when they first honed in on him that what he had to do, you could never admit to what you're doing and if you ever get caught.

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We never heard from it and I've never heard about it. Yeah.

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And one of the things that was so horrible, what about what they did with Libby? They got him on a process crime for misremembering a phone call. He wasn't trying to out a CIA agent. And Richard Armitage, who worked for Colin Powell the whole time, knew that Scooter Libby was not guilty of anything and kept his mouth shut. Absolutely.

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Absolutely. Now, you got to know, and I'm sure you do, there is a lot of competition between the FBI and the CIA. FBI is the FBI is national. There's jurisdiction does not go beyond our borders. Theoretically, you're right. The CIA, the CIA, they're international. Right. So there had to be some jealousy or something about Carter Page involved in this whole thing because they were I mean, they went after, as you know, several times, don't you don't you think instead of jealousy, it was just he was a handy guy to exploit, to use, to try to get to Trump.

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I don't think they cared about page one way or the other, do you?

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Well, he was he was the open door to all that happened, you know, because you you've already described how how this thing works. But Carter Page was a patriot and patriot. Absolutely. I mean, for anybody to denigrate him, they don't. They don't know they better wake up and smell the coffee. Absolutely, sir. There are a lot of people there, a lot of people in the Carter pages, similar position, who are serving this country every day, every day, sir.

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Absolutely.

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So I go, oh, by the way, I used to go to the Ukraine, to Donetsk. And I want to tell you. Well, I want to. That's where they went. I've been there a lot. Yeah. All through the transition. All through the transition of the wall coming down. And I'm telling you, everybody is on the take.

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Yeah. Yeah. That's why. And I appreciate your call, Bill. And I appreciate your service. God bless you. Thank you very much. That is why it was such a shock to the system over there when the wrong guy got elected prime minister. He and Trump really did have a lot in common and think back. To this sham impeachment they did at the start of this year, that's how terrified the Democrats are of everything coming out about Ukraine.

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And who was the one Republican? That voted to convict Donald Trump of impeachment. That's right. Mittens Romney, the old Pierre Delicto, and why do you think he did that and I wonder if it will come out. Why he had more in common with the Democrats trying to take Trump out than he did with the Republican Party and patriotic Americans, just a thought to throw it out there to you. All right. Eight, seven seven three eight one three eight one one.

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Doc Washburn continuing from Little Rock, filling in for the great one. Mark Levin.

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Mark Levin. Our Doc Washburne filling in for the great one, Mark Levin from his affiliate in Little Rock, Arkansas.

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Karyn, I was just so delighted to have the chance to film today. And we got another hour to go. I get it. But the day that I can tell everybody has been telling me for, what, three and a half years, nobody's going to be held accountable. Wake me up when they're indictments. And today, Kevin Kleinsmith. Top FBI attorney is dead to rights. There's no way. He falsified an email and said, no, Carter Page, you know, he wasn't a CIA asset.

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There's no way he did that without the higher ups knowing and also in the criminal pleading today in the criminal investigation paper that came out, it is mentioned that he did tell higher ups that this guy actually was a CIA asset.

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Write eight seven seven three eight one three eight one one. Let's grab some some calls here. Paul in Lake Charles, Louisiana, you're on the Mark Levin Show with Doc Washington filling in.

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What's up, sir? Oh, my God. Thank you. You know, you don't want a bad toast. I was a mayor of a city, OK? Yes, sir. I cannot believe that Paul Neumayr were allowed heftily could be destroyed. But you know what? When you look at Portland and you look at mail ballot after Israeli ballots, that's all Democrats. That's all I got to say about the mail in ballots.

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Mail in ballots. Well, I'll tell you something. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer were insisting that people are not going to get their financial assistance because of the Chinese communist coronavirus unless President Trump would sign some legislation mandating mail in ballots for the whole country. And President Trump told them to take a long walk off a short pier, he wasn't going to do it. It's all about them trying to steal an election. And when the governor of Nevada recently said, hey, we're going to do in our state anyway.

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He got sued so quickly, and I think he's going to lose. I think he's going to lose. There's not going to be any national mail in ballots. It's not going to happen.

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All right. Let me grab a call real quick from Jimmy in Brooklyn. Jimmy, I think we got about a minute. Let's make it count, brother. What you got?

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Yeah, a little earlier in the show, a guy called I think he was a Marine, a military veteran. Vietnam War. Yeah. We can't be so discouraged and demoralized that we throw up our hands and say, to hell with this. They meant our enemies are totally united. Tens of thousands of nuclear missiles aimed at US forces in the street are part of that, whether they realize it or not. So you have the people in the streets here riding the communists, the Marxist and their allies among the anarchists, and they know they're united because in our history, this is the first time that they actually have a chance that they could topple us because America has always been enemy number one to the Soviets.

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We stand in the way of the world, socialist world, communist movement. They feel that they have us on our heels. We're like leaning over and then trumped, like, parachuted right in the midst of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He certainly did. Jimmy, I got to run to a great call. Brother, I appreciate you, appreciate your passion, appreciate your patriotism. And they're wrong because they're not going to win. All right.

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Doc Washburn filling in for the great one, Mark Levin. From the Westwood One podcast network. Ladies and gentlemen, this final hour of the podcast is sponsored exclusively by the Association of Mature American Citizens, now over two million conservative members Strong EMAC believes in and stands up for the values that we care about faith, family and freedom. Thank you for listening and please support Amen. And you can become a member at Armacost U.S. Join us here.

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Now, broadcasting from the underground command post, deep in the bowels of a hidden bunker, somewhere under the brick and steel of a nondescript building, we've once again made contact with our leader, Mike. Rick Washburn filling in for the great one, Mark Levin. From his affiliate Karriem in Little Rock, Arkansas. Look, I got to mention to you on Freedom of the Press, Mark's latest fantastic New York Times best selling book is now available in paperback.

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Also, make sure you catch Mark Levin this Sunday night on Life, Liberty and Levin. He will be discussing Joe Biden picking California Senator Kamala Harris to be his vice presidential running mate with Mark Pulliam, attorney and contributing editor of Law and Liberty, also with Joe Concha, a media reporter over the Hill Dotcom. So definitely want to check that out. Life, liberty and love in every Sunday night on Fox News Channel. OK, today is a very historic day.

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The first of what I believe will be many indictments. An Obama gate, Russia gate, whatever you want to call the coup attempt to take down the president, but. I would be remiss in my duty. If I didn't mention another serious story. Those out there. A story that the mainstream media has tried to ignore. Let's give some credit to Matt Walsh over at the Blaze for beating the mainstream media over the head with this, the story, the five year old Cannon Hemet in Wilson, North Carolina.

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Who was murdered point blank range. Point blank range gunshot to the head as he was riding his bike. Allegedly by his 25 year old neighbor, Darius Sessoms. Now, at any given moment, there are millions of people listening to the Mark Levin Show, this is the third most listened to nationally syndicated radio talk show in America. And so why is it that so many of these millions of people have not heard this name, Canon Himmat?

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Well, it goes against the narrative that's pushed in the mainstream media. The narrative that there are. A whole bunch of white cops looking for excuses to murder young black men, see, because in this case. The next door neighbor, Dariusz Sessoms, who's been arrested in the murder of five year old Cannan, in this case, that next door neighbor, the alleged murderer, is black. And the five year old Cannon Hannant is white. And so this is a murder that doesn't count because I think so many of the people that pull the strings, the mainstream media, are racist and they assume that you're racist.

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So. You know, we can't let anything destroy the narrative. The same reason that the. The Black Highway patrolman in Mississippi. Who was murdered allegedly by three young black men last weekend didn't make the news. The same reason that it's just it goes against the narrative. But I promise you.

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I promise you. If Karen hennaed. Had been a little five year old black boy. Murdered by his 25 year old white neighbor. Everybody in America know that name, just like everybody knows the name George Floyd. Trayvon Martin, the gentle giant Michael Brown. So. When folks talk about systemic racism in in America. Sometimes I wonder if that systemic racism. Is running rampant in the halls of CNN, USA Today. Organizations like that there are finally having to talk about it, but leaving out the words white and black.

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Words they would not have left out if it was the other way around. So I just wanted to. Dignified and respect. The life of a five year old boy who has been taken from us. And it's going to be kind of tough, but. I got about 41 seconds. Of his father, Austin Himmat, who, by the way. Had had the next door neighbor over for dinner just a day or two before the shooting, these families that live side by side for years.

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Some extended members of the family. Who had been playmates with the alleged murderer growing up were shocked. They're like, I don't see how in the world. I could never have imagined that he would be capable of murder. And I don't want to get started on the people, on social media. Who are celebrating the murder? Because of this. This mythical white privilege that they think an innocent five year old boy had. It's depraved, it's depraved, here is the the father of the deceased can inherit who was murdered last Sunday night in Wilson, North Carolina, at five 30 p.m.

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They said the alleged murderer took off in a car and was arrested the next day.

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Here is and its father, they can't imagine what it's like to hold your son suffering from a gunshot wound to the head and his blood running down my along. As he began to work on my son, I immediately dropped to my knees. And I just pray to God. I thank God you're going to drive it off and I'll probably hang on my son. And at the top of my lungs, Hadean placed his hand. I'm not in the way we wish, but we're hoping that this tragic accident can bring some love to the world, that we can allow, that we're relying on our faith in God.

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Heartbreaking. Heartbreaking. And. I want to say something that. I don't know if I've ever said it when I filled in for Mark Levin before about I've said it plenty of times on my local show. People who want to. Divide us. On. The basis of ethnicity. I got more melanin than you, you got more melanin than me, and so you're less than. Folks who want to do that. Have a darkness in their heart and they're up to no good.

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And it usually has something to do with money and power. My listeners, Mark's listeners. And New York City. Who remember Freddie's fashion, Marte's might know what I'm talking about. With Al Sharpton back in the day. Not saying. You might have a little inkling on that now we can talk some more this evening a little bit later on about the first domino to fall. With Obama gate. And Kevin Kleinsmith. Pleading guilty today. For what he did to Carter Page.

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But I just felt like I needed to give some respect and decency and dignity to this little boy that the mainstream media ignored almost all week. And then wanted to. Kind of gloss over some details of the murder. All right, eight, seven, seven three eight one three eight one one. Let me see where is where's line for calling from, guys? OK, I mean, guy, let's just go to it. Let me talk to K.J. You're on the Mark Levin Show, Doc Washington, Filion, KYAY, where you come from, call in St.

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Louis.

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Yes, sir. What are your thoughts, sir? Or do my thoughts of our CNN producers? I just think that, you know, a lot of the talking points that we're hearing from Republicans and Democrats on both sides, but not a lot of actual unemployment that are high coronaviruses over the past. And this is not a lot of ACoNs from politics. And American people deserve so much more than what we're hearing. And as it relates to these young pavlovsk, I mean, my heart goes out to his family.

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Any black, white, Hispanic in my life is this so I mean, with both sides, Republican and Democrats would be better.

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Yeah, yeah. I'm not sure what is it the Republicans need to do better with? Well, I mean, this had a lot of negative talking points pitting one side of the other. I don't especially when you come from the leader at the party, the president. How long have you known in uniting Americans right now when the of opportunity opportunities? I don't seem to take taking coronavirus seriously after we're married. He doesn't want to hear that. I think if he doesn't listen to the finances, we just need leadership, Republicans or Democrats, somebody that can unify and bring the party together.

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Americans are really hurting right now. And we just have a lot of talk. I mean, I watch Fox News and CNN, MSNBC, I listen to all sides. Yeah. I write my politicians all the time. I'm in Missouri, but also I'm from Illinois. So, I mean, I'm involved locally in this family now. And I mean, OK, well, I mean, I hear from both sides right now.

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I appreciate your call coming from St. Louis. Thank you very much. I think if President Trump had not listened to the scientists that he would not have called for us to radically change our way of life in March. I'm pretty sure he's listening. Dr. Fauci and Dr. Brooks, at that point, as far as President Trump not doing anything about the coronavirus at the end of January, he cut off commercial air travel with China, something that everybody in the room at the time was against, something that since then they've admitted save lives.

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And as far as unemployment being at an all time high, it just isn't it wasn't even an all time high three months ago in the midst of this pandemic. It is certainly come back from then. Unemployment been at an all time high.

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I believe you'd have to be looking at the 1930s under Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

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But the idea that he's not listening to the scientists. I'm old enough to remember when the president brought out the director of Homeland Security's bioengineering lab a few months ago who said we've been doing all kinds of experiments on this coronavirus and guess what kills it? Sunlight, UV rays, heat, humidity. I think. That the people not listening to the scientists, other people who want the shut downs to go on and are ignoring hydroxy chloroquine.

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Oh. Now, maybe I'll be canceled. All right, more coming up straight ahead, let's talk about it, eight, seven seven three eight one three eight one one. Say his name, please. Say this little boy's name can and cannot. All right, Doc Washburn continuing from Little Rock for the great one. Mark Levin.

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All right, Doc Washburn filling in for a great one, Mark Levin and Mr. Producer, I apologize if I didn't hear you say, hey, go for it or you're on or whatever, because I was clearing my throat and, you know, that's probably what happened.

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Eight, seven seven three eight one three eight one one is the number to call again into the conversation tonight. My name is Doc Washburn. I am from Mark Levin's affiliates in Little Rock, Arkansas, the place where people really, really appreciate a good Bill Clinton impersonation. Unfortunately, I don't have a good one.

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All I have is something like now, look, I'm bit sick and tired of this, and I'm only going to say this once.

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And I want you all to listen. Listen, good. I did not smoke cigars. Oh, that young woman, Miss Lewinsky. Wait, what? Oh, well, OK.

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Well, maybe I did. Maybe I did, but I didn't think I did. So that's the main thing. It's my turn right around here somewhere. David Kendall or Bruce Lindsey or somebody.

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I guess I feel my own pain right now. If you're pick it up, I want to put it out. I think you just might be.

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You know, I don't know if every people outside of Little Rock would like that, but, you know, people in central Arkansas do.

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All right. Now, that having been said.

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That having been said since, I did mention something about hydroxy chloroquine a little bit earlier before the break, I want to go to Lunette in Spokane, the beautiful area of Washington state. You're on the Mark Levin Show with Doc Washburn. Lonette. We got about a minute and a half. What's up?

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Hey, doc. Yeah, well, I'm not on the crazy side of the state. I wish I could ride in when you mentioned hydrocracker because I had an appointment at the VA about a week go on two weeks ago, and I asked my primary care provider if the VA is treating its covid patients with hydroxyl Kirkland. And she stated no. And I was like, why? She said, Because the drug has been too highly politicized. And now the VA is playing politics with the health care.

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And it's not the lives of our veterans and my fellow veterans. I don't know to what extent we've had deaths in the VA hospitals amongst covid patients, but I think nobody's raised the alarm about this. And I, I you know, there's enough anecdotal evidence, if not the NIH study from 2005, which I have read I've tried to share my primary care doctor at the VA, refuses to read it. And now it is somebody has got to sound the alarm that the VA is now playing politics with the lives of sick veterans they've been killing with our lives.

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Enough.

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May I make a suggestion? Your congresswoman in Spokane is Cathy McMorris Rodgers. Right, right, right, yeah. And she's helped me out in a couple of occasions with with VA issues.

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And this is the this is the big VA issue she needs to help you out with.

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All right. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I mean, this is the big one, unfortunate, yeah, lives or lives are at stake here. She's the chair person of the House Republican Conference and she happily, happily, I'm saying she is your Congress person instead of some liberal Democrat.

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And I would say contact her, say, look, please, please, on behalf of anybody who might get this Chinese communist coronavirus, you know, I'm your constituent. We've talked before. Can we do something here? Linnett, I got to run to it, but God bless you and thank you for your service to our country. We appreciate you so much. Doc Washburn filling in for the great one, Mark Levin. AMEC, the Association of Mature American Citizens, is one of the fastest growing organizations in America now, over two million conservative members strong, and I'm one of them, a man who believes in and stands up for the values that we constitutional conservatives care about more than talk.

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All right, love that. That's fantastic. Doc Washburn filling in for Mark Levin, the great one from Little Rock, Arkansas.

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Big, big news today for everybody who said, you know what? Nobody nobody's ever going to be held accountable because the swamp protects its own.

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And John Durham, Steve St. and and William Barr Swamp. And, you know, Trump can fire them if he wanted to, et cetera, et cetera. What happened today?

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What happened today? Former top FBI lawyer Kevin Kleinsmith. Enters a guilty plea for lying, for changing an e-mail about a guy named Carter Page, the CIA said, yeah, he's definitely an asset.

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He's been very helpful to us. Helping us spy on the Russians. Patriotic American. So was Kleinsmith Do said, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, no, he no, he was definitely not a CIA asset, so. So we can get a warrant with a FISA court and spy on him. And if you're thinking, what's the big deal, spinal cord, a page. They're trying to use Carter Page to get to Trump. Because if you get a FISA warrant to spy on somebody, you can spy on that person, everybody they're in contact with either by email or text or any other way.

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And everybody those folks are in contact with.

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You were played six degrees of Kevin Bacon, I mean, six degrees of separation, that's kind of how it works. But then only. Two degrees, anyway, something to keep in mind. Devin Nunes was on Fox Business with Maria Bartiromo. He said, this is very important, Stefan Halper and Christopher Steele didn't actually spy on the Trump campaign, they manufactured intelligence in order to open an FBI investigation on Donald Trump.

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All these people knew. Call me Clapper, Brennan McCay struck whoever. They all knew. That there was no Trump, Russia, anything they were having to manufacture evidence, and my understanding is that. When it got to the point that these people, whether it was Halper or Christopher Steele or Joseph Massood, whoever it was, couldn't get.

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Carter Page and George Papadopoulos to say what they wanted them to say. To go, aha, look, see somebody work for Trump and then what are you, some of the Russians? That's when they had to come back in with Christopher Steele dossier, which they all knew. Had no actual legit intelligence. No wonder Peter Struck and Lisa Page, you're talking about an insurance policy. So anyway, I'm not trying to rub anybody's face in it who said nothing's ever going to come of this?

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I'm just trying to give you a reason to celebrate, because some people were saying, hey, I hope I'm wrong, I hope something will come of it. I just. I'm so disappointed that it's taken so long. And trust me. I do a talk show in Little Rock, Arkansas. So a lot of my listeners in central Arkansas. Who saw the Clintons get away with so much for so many years? We're so jaded. That when I got there in 2014, they were so dejected, they're like, Doc, Hillary's going to be president and there's nothing we do about it.

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And I hate to tell you this, and I wish I was wrong, but it's in the cards and there's not a thing we can do about it.

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Of course, this is like a year before Trump came down the golden escalator. But I had so many people in Arkansas who thought the fix is in, Jeb Bush is going to be the nominee, he's going to lay down and roll over for Hillary, just like Mitt laid down and rolled over for Obama, just like McCain did before him. And we're sunk. So and they they you know, we were all thrilled the day after Election Day on 2016.

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I said about eight days out from the Election Day, 2016, I said, you know, he might actually be able to pull this thing off. He might actually be able to pull this thing off, so any one of the questions that came up earlier in the show? Was and there are two sides to it, and both sides make sense to me very, very rarely on the fence on anything. But since this all points back to Obama.

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And President Trump's been saying this for quite a while and using words like treason, since it all goes back to Obama. The question is, if you can get. Actual intelligence, he can be found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, a court of law for whatever laws he broke and you know, he did. Do you indict a former president? Now, the one argument is that sets a very bad precedent because a Democrat attorney general under the next Democrat president will find some trumped up charges to indict Donald Trump on.

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So that's a bad, dangerous precedent. The other argument is no, no, it's a dangerous precedent to let a president get away with an attempted coup. You can't let that stand. So anyway. Your thoughts on that, your thoughts on Kevin Kleinsmith being pleading guilty today and who he's going to roll over on, and should I have listened to my financial adviser? Months ago when he said, Doctor, you're going to have to invest in Jiffy Pop or Orville Redenbacher because people are going to start not just eating popcorn at the movie theater, but eating a lot of popcorn at home.

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Eight, seven seven three eight one three eight one one. That's got some phone calls. George is listening in L.A.. George, you're on the Mark Levin Show. Weathercaster filling in. What's up?

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Hey, I like your show, but I want to say something and I hope the Americans will listen. And you will also listen. Yes, sir. If we allow Obama to walk free and we play the courtly Republican or we have manners, yeah. We're going to end up. That's not how you win, my friend. Yeah, I'm I'm on your side. I'm a little agitated because people are just so willing to let this go. But let me remind you, nobody wanted to do the filibuster rule.

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And you remember Harry Reid stunned everyone by doing that. Am I wrong?

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Yeah. Harry Reid, he got away. It got rid of it to try to get some some Obama judicial appointments in. He got rid of the 200 year old filibuster rule for doing like federal court appointments. No, you're absolutely correct. Yeah, right.

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And everybody thought, oh, that could never happen because we don't. Do you really believe if a Republican had done what Barack Obama did, they wouldn't go after him tooth and nail? That's my point, that you got to get to a point where you've got to get points not allowed allow. We should not fight like this anymore. We have to fight like longshoreman's. We have to fight like dock workers. You have to fight like blue collar people so that these smart these people that think that they're so smart that they just continue to bend the rules.

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Now, Barack Obama must go to jail if he broke the law, because if this situation was reversed, Trump would go to prison.

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And you know that, you know, for that matter, for that matter, even if he hasn't broken any laws whatsoever, they'll probably find something to prosecute. Trump won if a Democrat president ever takes office while Trump is still alive.

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I know. But you know something? Here is another point. If stuff doesn't get decided before the election and for whatever reason, Trump does not win, this all goes away. You understand that, right?

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Not only not only do I understand it, William Barr recently said he understands it too.

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Well, I got to tell you, I don't have faith in Barr. I don't have faith in him. That guy eats at Smith and Wollensky every day on taxpayer money. When he does something, I'll jump on his side. But from the moment I saw him and let me tell you something, if I was married attorney general, I would have brought an indictment within 30 days. I don't care. If I had to indict the paper boy, I would have done something.

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This is another phony collecting a paycheck.

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I'm done. I'm done. That's enough. That's enough. Sorry, George. You have no idea what you're talking about. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I cannot put up with this anymore. For you to talk, call a dedicated public servant like William Pibor, a phony collecting a paycheck, you should be ashamed of yourself. You know, if you got a comment on something, it might help if you have any idea what you're talking about.

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For you to think that a conspiracy against a presidential nominee and then a president elect and then continuing a sitting president as wide spread, as broad as this conspiracy had to be. Numerous intelligence agencies in the United States and in other countries, and you think, oh, well, that'll be easy to be a piece of cake. Yeah, I'll just skip I'll just skip lunch, by the way, I looked up Smith and Wollensky looks pretty good there and I'll just skip lunch.

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We'll just work extra hours and we can just wrap it up in a few weeks. Sir, you have no idea. What it takes to put together a federal criminal investigation. And successfully bring charges against the biggest political scandal in the history of this country. That was disgusting. More calls coming up. I hope the rest of the callers will be better than that.

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What is it again, eight, seven seven three eight one three eight one one, Doc Washburne continuing into the great one, Mark Levin.

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All right, Doc Washburn filling in for the great one, Mark Levin from Little Rock, Arkansas. It drives me crazy when people call in and say things and they don't have any idea what they're talking about. The last caller before the break, and I think this is the sixth time I filled in for the great ones, the first time I've kind of blow my stack at a caller. He said, William Pibor is a phony, just collecting a paycheck, which was just outrageous.

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And he also mentioned a restaurant he says Bar eats lunch at every day. And I looked the restaurant up and guess what?

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They do not have a location anywhere within hundreds of miles of Washington, D.C. So I just I just felt like I needed to correct the record. I hope you will. I hope you will, you know. Go with that. I can't think of the words, I'm just still so upset. All right, Jesse in Fort Worth, Texas, you are on the Mark Levin Show. Doc Washington filling in. What's up, Jesse?

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Hi. Good to talk to you. Thank you for your service. Thank you, sir. I was Texas Army National Guard, 1995 to 89, raised old fashioned by my grandparents. And all I want is equal accountability under the law. That's all I want.

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Yeah. Hey, man. Hey, man. I want everybody who has wronged, whether it be the president, the administration or we the people of these United States, I want them to be held to the same standard that anybody else would be. And that's all I'm asking.

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Yes. Yes. And I don't blame you, Jesse. I was just putting both sides out there just to to get some response from my callers. And Jesse, we appreciate your service to our country. And we we appreciate your call. God bless you. Thank you very much. All right. Eight, seven seven three eight one three eight one one.

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Carmello, Laurel Hill, Florida. You are on the Mark Levin Show with Aquash for filling in. What's up?

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Hey, thanks, doc. I just want to reiterate basically the same the same the same theory is the gentleman for me, equal application of the law here. Hear everybody talking about no one is above the law need. Right. Even the president. Right. And think same thing goes for Obama and Hillary Clinton in the whole bunch of the scandalous swamp creatures. You know, they all need to their treasonous actors. They need to be held accountable.

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Amen. Amen. I agree. Kamala, thank you for your call. Thank you very much. Speaking of Hillary, I keep on hearing that New York police officers were in tears when they saw what was on Anthony Weiner's laptop. I just thought I'd throw that out there at the end of the show. I just thought I would throw that out there. All right.

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Let me go to Bill in beautiful Billings, Montana. Bill, we got a couple of minutes left. Let's go for it. What you got?

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Yeah, so we're talking about how we solve the problem of, you know, reciprocal prosecutions of presidents after they left the office. Yes, sir. It's turning into a partisan circus. And really, we have you have to cut the head of the snake off on this that the courts have got to go. The Patriot Act has got to go. Oh, the FISA courts, the FISA courts have to go. They have to go. And they have no business in the United States.

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It's something straight out of the Soviet Union. You know, the KGB had stuff like that. Yeah, it has. It has to. And that's all I've really got to say. Government intelligence in itself is an oxymoron. They're always going to get it wrong. They're never going to protect you. They didn't protect us on 9/11. Then stop the Boston bombers there. Never, ever, ever going to be able to protect us. All they're ever going to be able to do is abuse their positions of power in a partisan manner to preserve their own jobs.

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Great call, Bill. I appreciate that from Montana there. Yeah, I remember when Louie Gohmert tried to hold FBI director, then FBI Director Mueller responsible for why he didn't go after the Russians, even warned about the Tsarnaev brothers. Why didn't you do surveillance on the mosque they went to in Boston? And Mueller got all indignant and huffy. And he said, we did outreach to the mosque.

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We didn't do surveillance, but remember, since you brought up the Boston bombing, I got to mention us remember, for several days there, they had the mug shots out there. We're looking for these two guys, please. Does anybody know? Not a peep from anybody at the mosque. And then when they arrested him.

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Oh, yes. All we remember them now, but yeah. Who who knew?

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Who had any idea? Who had any idea, you realize U.S. attorney, western Pennsylvania is investigating all things Ukraine for William Barr. OK, U.S. attorney, eastern Missouri is investigating not just how the Mueller team handled and mishandled and persecuted Michael Flynn, but investigating, I believe, the whole Mueller team.

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And then the guy from LA was in Houston, Texas, area investigating even more stuff. But we're out of time, but I might have to get some popcorn. Thank you so much, Mark Levin, for letting me fill in again. How to do it again one of these days. Doc Washburne from Little Rock, find me on Twitter and Facebook. Have a great weekend. From the Westwood One podcast network.