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And Laverne Cox, actress, producer, transgender icon, you may know me from Orange is the New Black or disclosure, and I wanted to create a public space for the conversations I'm having in private.

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And I thought a podcast was the perfect way to do that. And my guests tonight are we go there wherever that place is, my incredible guest and I go all the way there.

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So note to self, she is not going to throw any softball questions, OK?

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We are talking about everything from dating while trans dating as a black woman dating well over 40. Yeah, we talk a lot about dating here.

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70 percent of the people said they do believe in soul mates. And I think it keeps a lot of people single.

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And I asked every single man I slept with, you know, how you became interested in trans women and what is your interest in trans women.

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But we also dive deep into trauma, resilience, the social value of beauty, Beyonce, you name it. My body's always been talking to me, but now I have a way to talk back.

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We don't often talk about beauty as a way that many, many people and women in particular are exceptionally marginalized.

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Nothing is off limits, honey. Nothing is taboo.

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The first time I ever experimented with Survation was I think I was 10 years old, maybe 11.

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The fact that you think I'm here to please you is exactly the white woman problem.

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Can we get a little. OK, well, it will make you think it will challenge and hopefully inspire you.

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Love is intimate.

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We want people to understand us and understand that struggle.

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We're trying to create an identity and a culture where our humanity has just been fully denied.

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And girl, we have a lot of fun along the way for me.

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I let go of hi in my last night at the Laverne Cox Show will drop every Thursday starting February four.

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It's a powerful thing to be loved.

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Listen to the Laverne Cox Show and the I Heart radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.