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Hey, and welcome to the ShortStuff. I'm Josh, and there's Chuck and Jerry's here sitting in for Dave, so this is ShortStuff. Let's go.


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All right. Inside joke, everyone. We're talking about what I call Wayne Scotting today. Apparently, Currently, you can also pronounce it Wayne's Coding. I've always said Wayne Scotting, and evidently, either one of them are just fine.


I saw also people in Chumly and Hayesborough pronounce it Wooky Cat. Look it up.


Okay. If you don't know what we're talking about, we'll tell you right off the bat that Wayne's Coting is a design feature. It's been around for several hundred years. If you've ever been in a house and you walk into, let's say, the dining room, and instead of the entire wall being, let's say, drywall, maybe about halfway down, or I think the general rule is what? Two-thirds of the way down. Waist height. You will find, and it depends on the height of your wall, though, really, because you want to do it different for a 10-foot ceiling than a 8-foot ceiling.


It's quite a set up.


It is. But if from there down, you see Any wood paneling or these wood stripes paneling board, something like that, not the rail itself, we'll get to that. That is what wainscoting is.


Yeah, it turns out it's harder to explain than you'd think.


I didn't think it was until I got going.


First of all, that space that's waist height down on the wall is called the dotto. So wainscoting basically covers the dotto. If you have paneling that went all the way to, say, the ceiling, that's just called paneling, typically. So that's one aspect of wainscoting that usually is universal. It's about waist height, okay?




And then it's often made of wood, but sometimes it's made to look like it's made of wood. It could just be raised quarter round or other kinds of molding, cut at 45 degree angles and fashioned into a square, a hollow square, and put in repetition on the wall, and put a molding at the top and a molding at the bottom, paint it one color that's a different color from the wall above it, you've got Foe Wayne-Scotting as a DIY weekend project.


Can I stop all the carpenters from writing you a letter?


Oh, gosh. Did I say something wrong?


I think it would have to be half round. Yeah.


I was hoping that people wouldn't pick up on that because I thought it as I was saying it, but I'm glad you corrected me to keep from the emails.


Yeah. I mean, that's one way you can do it is literally individual strips of board. Much more commonly these days, you You can buy this stuff in large 4 by 8 sheets that are already grooved to look like those individual strips much, much easier. It's a not too hard DIY project. I've done it plenty of times. Oh, really? Yeah, it's really easy. Well, we'll get to when it's not easy. But if you can cut something to fit a wall and you have what are those things called that you get caulking out of a tube with?


A caulk gun?


Yeah, then you can do that. Some liquid nails, maybe even a little nail shooter.


Yeah, a little finishing nail gun.


Yeah, it's as easy as that. It's really not hard. The word itself, I think by the time the late 1500s rolled around was a verb meaning to line boards with paneling from supposedly maybe a middle Dutch or low German wagen-schott.


That's where it originally came from. That's what I'm calling it from now on. I really That's what you like, your wagen-schott. It's dining room feels much more formal, thanks to the wagen-schott you've installed here. Is that a DIY wagen-schott job you did?


Then you get hit over the head with a purse. That's right. Someone says, I never.


I saw this old house said that it's Dutch in origin, and it dates back to the 1300s, which is really something. And imagine that it basically hasn't changed, essentially, in 700 plus years.


Yeah. And the cool thing about Wayne Scotting is that it's adaptable to a bunch of different styles. I mean, you're probably not going to see a modern or super, super, contemporary house with it. You may be able to get away with it if it's a certain kind. But a lot of other traditional, it can go with Art Deco, it can go obviously, and was heavily used in the arts and crafts movement. But it's a fun way to break up the wall, but it originally served the purpose, and still does as protected facing that lower wall.


Yeah, I think that's what it was originally for, and that still is what it does, especially if you have molding across the top of it that finishes it and separates it from the wall above. That's frequently referred to as a chair rail because It protects your wall from being banged up by chairs when people slide them out to get away from the table.


I never knew that's what that came from. Oh, really? No. I mean, I always called it chair rail. It can also be called Dado rail because of what you were talking about. But I never knew it was to protect against a chair. I had no idea. I love it.


Yeah, me too. It also technically could protect against Kramer in his pool queue if you have a pool table set up in a room that's too small to house a pool table.


That's good.


Should we take a break? Yes.


All right, we'll be right back.


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All right, so there are different kinds of Wayne Scotting. There's Speedboard Wayne Scotting, You will notice those distinctive Grooves, these narrow vertical planks. That's a very common one that you can buy in large sheets.


That's what I thought it was, plain and simple.


I did, too, actually. But if you throw the word flat panel wainscoting in front of it, then that is just another smooth version. But I've always just thought of wainscoting as being the grooved.


Yeah, the B board.




You said flat panel, and you said that it's tough to get wainscoting or pull wainscoting off in a modern or contemporary house. You can, but it has to be very sleek and minimal, but you could do it. It's very daring. All of your friends in the design community are going to say, What a daredevil. But if you pull it off, they will fet you. They will have a in your honor for it.


That's right. Great use of fet. Good word. There's also overlay and raise panel Wayne Scotting, and that's what you're going to find more of these days, which is a panel that you put over the wall. I thought that's like it has always been, but apparently, back in the day, it was actually recessed and built into the wall itself.


Yeah. So it would be even with the wall above it, right?




So that raised panel wainscoting, it's not the best name for what it describes, because from what I could tell, if you have what amount to cabinet doors on your wall in your dining room, but without handles, that would be considered raised panel wainscoting. It's like a square panel with a square routed into it, maybe like four inches from the top and the bottom and the sides. And then that leaves another raised square in the middle of it, right? That's raised panel. And it doesn't ring a bell with me.


Yeah, you saw it, though, right?


Yeah, I just tried to describe it, and I didn't do that great of a job. But imagine a square moat in a raised panel, a raised square of wood, and there's a square moat two-thirds of the way in or a third of the way in. Oh, my God.


How about this? Imagine if you had one of those cutting boards that catches the juice. Yes. And you screwed it into your wall. Right.


You just got a bunch of those and you lined them up evenly. There you go. That's a raised panel. Imagine this. Imagine going on the internet and searching raised panel wainscoting and then clicking the images and looking for those.


Oh, boy, that's great. I love it. It was usually oak, traditionally in the past. These days, there's all kinds of other products, obviously. You can have MDF, which is medium density fiber board. Plywood. In my opinion, the cheap stuff you get at the big box store looks fine because you're going to end up staining or painting over it. But just make sure it is a stain grade if you are going to stain it. Otherwise, it might not look great, but you can always paint over it, which is what we've done.


Yeah. That's how the DIY version where it's really just drywall covered with some half round or whatever molding that forms those squares to make it look like, what is it? Not flat. Raised panels. Man, I can't believe it. That's really... It's not hard to do, or no, it's not easy to do, but it's not super hard, especially if you already know your way around cutting tools and miter saws, and like you said, caulk guns and finishing nail guns.


Yeah. If you're doing it in the big sheets, you're going to want to use a table saw. Where it gets difficult, and I earlier, it's not too hard as a DIY project, where it does get difficult, and this is especially true in older homes, which we found out, our house is from 1935. So there's not a straight wall or floor in our house barely. Then when you go to put this beautifully, perfectly rectangular bead board up, and then you've got a strip that's two inches wide at the top, and it goes down to about a third of an inch at the bottom, and you're just like, Oh, my Lord. If you're good at that stuff, it's not so hard. But if that is a challenge for you, cutting something on a long, long angle like that, it is a challenge for me, then it can get dispirating is the word I'll use.


I saw what you wanted What you need to do is you make your chair rail even, that's all level, and then the baseboard, you shim and then caulk in. If you really look close to the baseboard, you'd be like, Oh, that part of the baseboard has a little dip to it, and you'd be like, Get out of my house. I tried really hard to cover that up. But that's the savior of DIY wainscoting projects. That caulk gun because you're caulking in any graves or whatever, and then paint, priming and paint. Then it does end up looking like just one solid group of paneled wood. It's really a neat thing.


Do you know the old construction term?


Measure twice, cut once.


That's a good one. Caulk and Calk and paint will make it what it ain't.


Oh, nice, Chuck. If that's not something to end ShortStuff on, I don't know what is.


I think ShortStuff is out? Mm-hmm.


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