You're listening to Ted Talks Daily, Amelie's Hugh from a lasting friendship to an orca whale who swam a thousand miles with her ailing baby on her back to an elephant who held a vigil. Today, we're going to hear some heartwarming stories from the animal kingdom. Barbara J. King's archive talk from Ted Twenty is about to pierce your heart with the way animals can feel and grieve. She says by recognizing this, we can make the world kinder to animals by the talks.
And she'll detail all the ways how?
I'd like to tell you today about an orca named Talika, Talca is also known as J. Thirty five to scientists because she swims with the pod in the Salish Sea. These are the waters off of British Columbia and Washington State. Now, last year, in July 2013, she was well along in her 17 month pregnancy and scientists were very excited because no baby had survived in this pod for three long years.
Now, orcas are also known as killer whales.
There are profoundly social and profoundly intelligent beings, and scientists are very interested in their behavior because in their social networks, they share habits, information and even affection. They create true cultures of the ocean. But this pod has been in trouble. The Chinook salmon that the orcas favor has been way down in the region and pollution has been up. But on July 24th, Tahlequah gave birth to a daughter and scientists were so excited by this development.
But unfortunately, the same day, in fact, shortly after birth, the calf died. Well, what happened next? Electrified animal lovers across the world because Tahlequah refused to let her babies slip off into the water.
She kept it on her body and she swam with it.
If it did fall off, she would dive and rescue it. And she battled stiff currents to do this. Now, she kept this behavior up for 17 days, and during this time she swam over a thousand miles. At that point, she left a little baby slip off into the water. So today, Tahlequah swims on with the J pod, but her grief still moves me. And I do believe that grief is the right word to use. I believe that grief is the right word to use for numerous animals who mourn the dead.
They may be friends or mates or relatives because these visible cues, these behavioral cues, tell us something about an animal's emotional state. Now, for the last seven years, I've been working to document examples of animal grief in birds, in mammals, in domesticated animals and in wild animals. And I believe in the reality of animal grief. Now, I say it this way because I need to acknowledge to you right up front that not all scientists agree with me.
And part of the reason, I think, is because of what I call the a word. The a word is anthropomorphism. And historically, it's been a big deterrent to recognizing animal emotions.
So anthropomorphism is when we project onto other animals our capacities or our emotions. And we can all probably think of examples of this. Let's say we have a friend who tells us my cat understands everything I say or my dog, he's so sweet. He ran right across the yard this morning towards the squirrel. And I know he just wants to play. Well, maybe or maybe not.
I'm skeptical about claims like those.
But animal grief is different because we're not trying to read an animal's mind. We're looking at physical cues of behavior and trying to interpret them with some meaning.
Now, it's true. Scientists often push back at me and they'll say, look, the animal might be stressed or maybe the animal is just confused because his or her routine has been disrupted. But I think that this over worry about anthropomorphism misses a fundamental point, and that is that animals can care very deeply for each other. Maybe they even love each other. And when they do, a survivor's heart can be pierced by a death. Let's face it, if we deny evolutionary continuity, we are really missing out on embracing part of ourselves.
So, yes, I believe in the reality of animal grief. And I also think that if we recognize it, we can make the world a better place for animals, a kinder place for animals. So let me tell you a little bit more about animal grief. I'm going to start in Kenya. There's an elephant named Eleanor who came one day with bruised legs and she collapsed. Another female named Grace came to her right away and using her own trunk, propped her up, tried to get her up on her feet, and she did succeed.
But then Eleanor collapsed again.
At this point, Grace became visibly distressed and she prodded the body and she vocalized Eleanor collapsed again. And unfortunately, she did die. The female from another family name, Maui, came after the death and she stayed at the body. She held a vigil there and she even wrote. Rocked in distress over the body, so the scientists watching the elephants kept close observation on Elena's body for seven days. And during those seven days, a parade of elephants came from five different families.
Now, some are just curious, but others carried out behaviors that I really believe should be classified as grief. So what does grief look like? It can be rocking. If I said in distress, it can also be social withdrawal.
When an animal just takes himself or herself away from friends and stays by themselves or failure to eat or sleep properly, sometimes a depressed posture or vocalization, it can be very helpful for those of us studying this to be able to compare the behavior of a survivor before death and after death, because that increases the rigor of our interpretation. And I can explain this to you by talking about two ducks named Harper and Cole. So we're into birds now. So Harper and Cole were raised at a foie gras factory and they were treated cruelly.
And Frogmore does involve force feeding of birds. So this hurt their bodies and their spirits were not in good shape either. But thankfully, they were rescued by farm sanctuary in upstate New York. And for four years they stabilized and they were fast friends. They often took themselves to a small pond on the property. Then Cole started to have really intractable pain in his legs and it was clear to the sanctuary that he had to be euthanized humanely. And he was.
But then the sanctuary workers did a brilliant thing because they brought Harpur to the body to see. And at first Harpur prodded the body of his friend. But then he laid himself over it and he stayed there for over an hour with his friend. And in the weeks after he had a hard time, he would go back to that same pond where he had been with Cole and he didn't want any other friends. And within two months he died as well.
Now, I'm happy to say that not all grieving animals have this sorrowful outcome. Last summer, I flew to Boston to visit my adult daughter, Sarah. I was with my husband, Charlie. I really needed a break from work, but I succumbed and I checked my work email. You know how that is.
And there was a communication about a dejected donkey. Now, as an anthropologist, it wasn't what I expected, but there it was. And I'm glad I read it because a donkey named Lena had gone to another farm sanctuary, this one in Alberta, Canada, as the only donkey there and had trouble making friends for that reason. But she eventually did make friends with an older horse named Jake, and for three years they were inseparable. But the reason the email came was that Jake, at age 30 to the horse, had become gravely ill and had to be put down.
And she didn't want to come in at night. She didn't want to come in for food. She didn't want to come in for water. She poured at the grave. She brade in distress. And there she stood.
So we talked and we brainstormed. What do you do for an animal like this? And we talked about the role of time of extra love and kindness from people and of urging her to make a new friend. And here's where her trajectory does diverge from that of Harper the duck, because she did make a new friend and sanctuary workers wrote back and said it worked out well.
Now, sometimes scientists supplement observation with hormonal analysis. There's an example of a group of scientists in Botswana who took fecal material from baboons and compared to different groups, the first group were females who had witnessed a predator attack and lost someone in that attack. And the second group were females who had witnessed an attack but had not lost someone. And the stress hormones were way up in that first group. But here's the thing.
The scientists didn't just call them stressed baboons, they called them bereaved baboons. And in part, that's because of the observations that they made. For example, this mother daughter pair were very close and then the daughter was killed by a lion. The mother removed herself from all her friends, from her grooming networks, and just stayed by herself for weeks bereavement. And she then slowly recovered. So we have bereaved baboons. Will science tell us someday about bereaved bees?
Will we hear about frogs who mourn? I don't think so. And I think the reason is because animals really need one to one close relationships for that to happen. I also know that circumstance matters and personality matters. I have documented cats and dogs who grief are companion animals, but I also interacted with a woman who was extremely bothered because her dog wasn't grieving.
She said to me the first dog in the house has died. The second animal does not seem concerned. The second dog, what is wrong with him?
And as I listened to her, I realized that this dog was now the only animal in the household.
And as far as he was concerned, that was a pretty good deal. So circumstances matter now. In any case, animals are not going to grieve exactly like we do. We have human creativity. We paint our grief, dance our grief, right, our grief. We also can grieve for people we've never met across space and time. I felt this strongly when I went to Berlin and I stood at the Holocaust Memorial. Animals don't grieve exactly like we do, but this doesn't mean that their grief isn't real.
It is real and it's searing and we can see it if we choose. Now, I've lost both my parents. I lost a very dear friend at a young age from AIDS. I believe most likely most of you here have lost someone.
And I have found it a genuine comfort, a soloist to know that we aren't the only beings on this earth who feel love and grief. And I think this is important. I also think we can take this a step further and we can realize that the reality of animal grief can help us be better and do better for animals. This is already happening with Tahlequah because the United States and Canada have renewed their talks with greater urgency for how to help the orcas, how to restore that Chinook salmon and how to help with the water pollution.
We can also see that if grief is real, there's tremendous plausibility to the notion that animals feel a whole range of things. So we could look at joy and sadness, even hope. And if we do that, here's how we can start to think about the world. We can look at orcas and say we know they grieve, we know they feel their lives, and we can refuse to confine them to small tanks in theme parks and make them perform for our entertainment.
We can look at elephants and say, yes, they grieve and we can renew our efforts against international trophy hunting and against poaching.
And we can look at our closest living relatives, monkeys and apes and know, yes, they grieve, they feel their lives, so they don't deserve to be confined in a highly invasive biomedical experiments year after year.
And, you know, the ducks, Harper and Cole, they tell us something, too. They help us connect the dots and realize that what we eat affects how animals live. And it's not just foie gras and it's not just ducks. We can think about pigs and chickens and cows in factory farms. And we can know I can tell you the science is real, but these animals feel to. So every single time we choose a plant based meal, we are contributing to reducing animal suffering.
So, yes, I believe in the reality of animal grief, I believe in the reality of animal love, and I think it is time for us humans to recognize that we don't own these things. And when we see that we have an opportunity to make the world so much better for animals, a kinder world, a gentler world, and along the way, we might just save ourselves to. Thank you so much.