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You're listening to Comedy Central now. Hey, what's going on, everybody? Welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show. I'm Trevor Noah. It is Thursday, August 13th. And he your coronavirus tip of the day. If schools are reopening in your area, please remember that you have to be a kid to go to school. You can't just show up because you miss having friends anyway. On tonight's episode, why wearing masks could be a crime. Sexism is officially on the presidential ticket and what Donald Trump wants to do in your shower.
So let's do this, people.
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As we all know, the United States is facing unprecedented problems right now, pandemic, economic collapse, racial injustice. And on top of all of that, Americans all over the country are struggling to figure out which bill they signed up for. But President Trump is laser focused on the most important issue of all, bath time.
The Department of Energy has taken it upon itself to propose a new rule that would essentially increase the maximum flow of showerheads. And this comes after the president just last week complained about this issue during a tour of the Whirlpool manufacturing plant in Ohio.
Listen to this. You go into a new home, you turn on the faucet. No water comes. You turn on the shower. If you're like me, you can't wash your beautiful hair properly. You waste 20 minutes longer. Please come out the water. It drips, right. You know what I'm talking. They put restrictions on. I got rid of that. I signed it out.
Yes. While some of us get our best ideas in the shower. Trump gets his only ideas about showers. I mean, we laugh. What if this whole time low flow showerheads really were the reason that Trump's has so weird? I'm not going to lie. I don't think I'm prepared to see Trump coming out looking like a dehydrated Dolly Parton. But this is what's so frustrating about Donald Trump, is that he can get stuff done. It's just that he only cares enough to do it if it affects him personally.
So America's best hope for beating coronavirus is if Trump thinks that one of his kids might get it. No one of the kids he likes. And by the way, I just want to think about Trump in the shower. No, it's like hearing your grandma complain about all the ads on PornHub.
Know me more now that's in my head. But let's move on to the United Kingdom. Western with electricity in the wake of covid-19, their economy has been one of the hardest hit in the world, with their GDP plummeting 20 percent. But in classic British fashion, they are keeping calm and carrying on.
The UK's first major outdoor concert is offering maybe a glimpse of the future. Take a look at this. Sam Fender performed for twenty five hundred people in person at the Virgin Money Unity Arena in Newcastle this week. The venue was sectioned off into small groups, letting fans rot together without getting too close to other groups. The outdoor setup includes five hundred separate seating sections with metal fences, which are four groups of five to attend and watch the show.
Tickets reportedly sold out immediately go massive props to the UK for figuring out how to do concerts in the age of Korona. Because I don't care what you say. That is awesome. Although I will say the mosh pit just didn't have the same energy. I'm got to figure that out.
But still, this is the best way to keep socially distance at a concert. I mean, it's either this or going to see Lou Vega perform. I mean, there's plenty of elbow room either way. In fact, this is how all concerts should be from now on, even off the coronaviruses over. This is the future, although I bet there's still going to be that one asshole blocking everyone's view of the stage by carrying his girlfriend on his shoulders.
That doesn't need to be a thing. It needs to be banned. It doesn't just ruin the concert for people who can't see. It also discriminates against us guys who lack the upper body strength to carry out girls. Not everyone has Trappes.
OK, so concerts might be coming back, which is really good news.
And he has some more good news from overseas. Countries in the southern hemisphere are now well into their annual flu season. But it turns out that because people have been social distancing and wearing masks for coronavirus, they're basically stopping the flu as well. So they got two benefits for the price of one. You know, it's like how you stop vaping to be healthier and then you get the added benefit of no longer looking like a douchebag. Now, there's no guarantee that this will happen everywhere, but this could be great news for countries in the northern part of the world when this flu season hits in November, although that only happens if people are taking the necessary Korona precautions.
And it looks like in America, people might be dealing with Korona season, flu season and idiot season.
The new mask showdown in the Sunshine State of Florida. Sheriff is banning his deputies and visitors to his office from wearing face coverings in his order.
He mandates the nine hundred deputies and staff on his force not cover their faces for routine work, saying in part, When you are on duty, working as my employee and representing my office, masks will not be worn.
And it's not just deputies. The sheriff in Marion County, Florida, says anyone from the public who goes inside the sheriff's office must also remove their masks.
OK, this is batshit crazy. A sheriff in Florida is banning his deputies and anyone entering the sheriff's office from wearing a mask. Like I thought, the police's top priority was supposed to be keeping people safe. But I guess wearing a mask gets in the way of the actual party showing off the sweet porn stashes. I mean, you've almost got to admire the balls on the sheriff. Everyone is protesting against police shootings and he's like, I hear your demands.
From now on, we'll come up with a different way to kill people. Why nobody's getting shot. Don't get angry at me. Also, this completely undermines the no mosque movements. Right? Because what do they say? This is America. You can't order me to wear a mask. And now it's like I can order you not to wear a mask. Now that's freedom. And speaking of freedom, this next story comes out of Belarus, the Ukraine of Lithuania.
Last week, the country's autocratic ruler held an election that. Many election observers say was a sham, but in a country where citizens have largely been quietly resigned to their fate, this time they rose up.
The authorities in Belarus say six thousand people have been arrested and one person was killed in the violent aftermath of President Alexander Lukashenko disputed re-election. Opposition leaders say the vote was rigged. Many of them have been detained or forced to flee the country, including the main candidate, Svetlana Skya. Lukashenko won around 80 percent of the vote. He's been in power since nineteen ninety four and is considered by many as Europe's last dictator.
What the people of Belarus to have the freedoms that they're demanding that they think are in their best interests. We watched the protests. We we urge that these nonviolent protesters be protected and not armed. Yeah, that's right.
Belarus should protect its nonviolent protest is the same way America does in unmarked vans. And don't get me wrong. These were some strong words. It just didn't help when Pompeo finished the speech by shooting tear gas at the reporters. I mean, either Mike Pompeo doesn't remember how America treats non-violent protesters or he just forgot to include some winks in his statements. We urge that the nonviolent protesters be protected and not harmed.
Now, it's easy to look at what's happening with the elections in Belarus and say, well, that's just some far away dictatorship. That'll never happen in America. But honestly, I think sometimes America gets so caught up in its own exceptionalism that it ignores warnings it could be taking from other countries. You know, if America paid attention to Brexit, it would have realized how social media can be used to bamboozle people into voting for crazy candidates who promised to fix everything.
If America paid more attention to China, they would have realized that coronaviruses, something that could come to this country and screw everything up as opposed to something that only happens overseas. And if America might think that rigged elections are something that only happens in other places, well, in reality, it's already starting to rear its ugly head right here.
President Trump upped the ante in his battle against mail in voting today. He appeared to say the quiet part out loud, telling Fox News why he opposes a funding boost for the US Postal Service.
They want three and a half billion dollars for the mail and votes on universal mail in ballots through after they want twenty five billion dollars billion for the post office. Now, they need that money in order to have the post office work so it could take all of these millions and millions of ballots. But if they don't get those two items, that means you can't have universal mail in voting.
God damn, I've never seen a villain give away a plan like that without seeing James Bond tied to a chair in front of him.
I mean, because people this is insane. Trump got impeached for trying to secretly rig the election and his response is to go, I learned my lesson.
I will bring an election in secret ever again. And the truth is, this effort to sabotage Mayland voting is a real threat to America's election. If Trump gets his way, they're going to have to change all that. I voted stickers to end in a question mark. I voted. I guess the one upside of Trump telling us all of this right now is that it gives Americans an opportunity to fight back and prepare, although the downside is that it's going to put a lot of TV detectives out of their jobs.
President Trump is making big changes to the U.S. Postal Service that appear to be slowing down the mail. But one big question remains, why is he doing? In a new interview this morning, President Trump explicitly said that he is opposing a request for postal service funding in the new relief package because he wants to stop the expansion of mail in vote.
I guess we solved it first for the franchise, finished a sandwich, and I thought I had some time, but I guess.
That was a roller coaster. All right, we have to take a quick break, but when we come back, we'll look at how Kamala Harris, his opponents, are pulling out the old sexist playbook.
So stick around. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. So Tuesday was a big day for the 20 20 presidential campaign. It's the day that Mike Pence got a brand new tattoo. But also Joe Biden announced Kamala Harris as his running mate. And yesterday, Kamala wasted no time getting into the fights.
Harris also signaled she'll do what vice presidential running mates usually do, aggressively attack the other side.
The case against Donald Trump and Mike Pence is open and shut his refusal to get testing up and running, his flip flopping on social distancing and wearing masks, his delusional belief that he knows better than the experts. All of that is reason and the reason that an American dies of covid-19 every 80 seconds.
Damn, that was brutal. And, you know, it probably ruined Trump's day.
Why is Omarosa being so nasty to me and why she wears a bun? What happened?
But just as Comilla immediately went on the attack, conservative media immediately started taking their own shots at her.
I wouldn't trust Kamala Harris. I think she's very ambitious. She's a very mean person. Nobody likes to have a sort of a mad woman. I call her because she was so angry and so much hatred with Justice Cavanaugh. I mean, I've never seen anything like it.
She seems to come across as a bit abrasive, as the president mentioned.
I know if she can warm things up and be a little more charming, I would describe her as a congresswoman. Okay, she'll caucus, but smarter and without the bartending experience, she might look like the full package.
But when it comes to people judging, especially women, I think they feel this. And I will say, yeah, you know what?
Fox News has a really good point here. Americans always want their leaders to be warm. I mean, that's why Trump won, dude, so warm. He sweats his makeup off. And I really don't get the criticism that Kamala is too ambitious. I mean, how do you get on a presidential ticket if you're not ambitious? What, you think you're going to be sitting at home on the couch? I mean, the DNC is going to come knocking on the door like, sir, put down that joint.
We need you in the White House. But the big question is, why is it that when female candidates run for office, the media starts to bring up tropes and stereotypes that they don't bring up female candidates? Well, to help us figure that out, we're joined by our very own Dulci Sloan to say, first off, thank you for taking the time to join us today, taking the time to Everetts Garone.
What else was I use in my time for before you thought I was organizing my closet in alphabetical order. Louses, cardigans, dresses you get getting. Wait, what?
Who organizes the closet by alphabeat. Shouldn't you do it by color.
OK, it clearly is still suffering from apartheid thinking it. But I'm free.
OK, well either way Dorsay, I appreciate you because I'm trying to figure out the media's coverage of Kamala Harris. Like, what do you make of it?
Same bullshit as always. Dreaver female candidates get covered less like politicians and more like Miss Universe contestants. How does she smile? This you look good in a dress. Well, Steve Harvey get her name right.
But why do you think the media has this double standard in politics?
Politics, Negroes double standard is everywhere. Have you not been paying attention to this wet ass pussy controversy?
Oh, you mean like why Kylie Jenner was in the video? No.
Anybody talking about that goofy ass girl, you silly man? No, I'm not talking about the stuff. I'm talking about why people are talking about the soft hearted B and making these Dalyan have given us the sex positive, the summer celebrating women owning their sexuality.
Nothing men have been doing since Adam ate that apple in the Garden of Eden and got his first boner to say, I don't remember that part in the Bible.
The point is male musicians talk about sex all the time, talking about their hard dicks. It's getting everywhere, but women do it. People are like, this is vulgar, inappropriate. What about the children that look up to them? Who cares about them? Damn children, Cardi B and the Stallion and not your name. I know it's confusing. You see two women of color in a really nice house and you assume Aiden and McKenzie are just offspring with their Mandarin tutor.
But it's a huge double standard. Trever OK, do say.
But to play devil's advocate, you have to admit it's a really graphic song.
Tremper on it being a repressed patriarchal society, what people consider a woman's pleasure. Rapping Men don't have the sense of that pleasure. Drake and Bruno Mars. The thing about it was getting hard, but they still going to Thanksgiving dinner. But if Khatib doesn't see that, who's taken down society? Well, you know. There is another thing, I mean, there's something about rap that as soon as some white people hear it, it sounds graphic just because it's rap, like I could be like it's really cool to stay in school.
And then some white people would be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, calm down, sir. So there's always a chance that the problem wasn't the message as much as the fact that it's hip hop. OK, first of all, don't ever do that again. That was offensive for a whole different reason.
No, no, I was just trying to show, like, when you say something with the flow, how it goes now, whatever it was.
OK, the point is, we don't live in a society that's comfortable with women claiming their sexuality. It doesn't matter if it's rap or country. I bet if it was a country music star to sing the same lyrics, all these men would still be upset. I don't know.
I don't know about that. Don't like I feel like now you're turning it into, like, a hypothetical argument or what people's reaction would be if a country music star sang the song like we don't know now, you don't know what I called my girl.
Margo Price is a Grammy nominated country star to help me prove my point. Come on, Margo, take it away. Look, Anita. And you tell me, the Quaids. Not to go to sleep, to need a king cobra get a little bit, you know, I guess that's where. I see a company just like Spreaded. Got a bit more now on China, where there is now a double dose of. I want to go out again.
I want to want you to tell us a little swings in. All. This game is going to be coming out soggy, but the thing, of course, is money spent on this Michael Johnson. Investigators say they bring me a bucket in my face with. Give me everything you've got. Give me everything you've got. Give me everything, everything, everything you've done.
Whispers We'll see how they like that one. Don't they dare to say that was. That was actually amazing, I mean, it's still graphic, but that was amazing. How did you get Mogel Price to do that? You don't know me, do you think? I spent all day sitting at home organizing my closets. I'm doing things baby. Which reminds me, I got to find something that starts with G. All right, well, see you later, do say Sloane and Margo Price, I think we've got another hit on our hands.
Thank you so much for that. When we come back, I'll be talking to Kenya Barris about the controversy surrounding his hit show, Blackish Statue Of.
Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. So earlier today, I spoke with Kenya Barris, the creator of the award winning hit series Blackfish. Now, just recently, Hulu released an episode of the show that until now had not been allowed to air. So we talked about that and so much more. Kenya Barris, welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show.
Thank you so much. Thanks for having me.
How are you doing? So this is this is I love your Zoome background. It looks so real. It looks like you've got like a really beautiful yard and everything. That's amazing.
I'm actually in a federal penitentiary. This is just this is something I want to talk a little bit about the little empire that you created.
I mean, that's a paradox. Little empire, the empire that you've created really spinning off from, you know, from blackish blackish. You've grown ish. You've got mixed ish. And then on Netflix, you've got black A.F.. How much? I didn't know that there was this much in blackness that that could be that could be extracted from black. Like where do we go from this? Because I want to join in.
I want I want to one more. And we and you know, we can do South African too. But we do have one more coming.
You've really done a great job. I think creating experiences and creating shows that speak to the black experience in in I think in a way that not not everybody is familiar with. You know, like like a lot of shows try and put black in one category. You know, it's either going to be a sad story. It's either going to be a slave story. It's only going to be racism or it's only going to be hip hop. But you in all of your shows, try and tell it in all of its complexity.
Like you go like no being black is all of these things with black. If you've been picked up for a second season, congratulations. What are you trying to do with the show moving forward?
I want to I want to be relevant. I want to be culturally progressive. I want to say things that haven't been like it was people people like you people are here today. And I'm saying I think but it was the most polarizing thing I've ever done. And I have to be honest with you, because of that, it was probably one of my favorite things. Wow. Because I didn't in a way that I didn't realize before. The best way to really start a conversation is to have people disagree, you know, and I think that's so often as black artists, we are not able to.
Kind of conversations that are not just sort of down the middle. I love that because those kind of conversations were getting created and that's how we move forward. So whatever we do next season, we want to move the conversation forward. We want to sort of you know, I remember when you started doing, you know, The Daily Show, it was a big change and it was like you did not try to do an impersonation. You you did yourself and you murdered it.
But it was like that was a progressive move for the culture. And I like that. The way we have to move forward is to do bold seismic changes to what people have seen as those. So that's what I'm trying to do.
Let's talk about the episode of Blackish that everybody is talking about right now, and that's the episode that was previously shelved under mysterious circumstances and then now has been released on Hulu. And I think it's entitled Please, Baby, Please. And there was this episode that we heard about, and it was supposed to come out, I think it was a year after the election have taken place. And and then all of a sudden this episode disappeared and people were like, what happened?
Where did the episode go? And then Kenya Barris left and ABC and started working with Netflix. And people like that. They did they censor him, did they stop him? But now this episode is out. And I mean, it's a really poignant episode, you know, covering everything that happened in that first year, talking about Donald Trump, talking about xenophobia in the country, the rise of right wing nationalism, the rise of homophobia, just like everything that we were seeing explode in America during that first year of Trump's presidency years ago.
Right. But it seems as relevant today. So two things. Two things. One, can you tell us why that episode was shelved? And two, why did you fight so hard? Why did you go to Disney and say, hey, I really think we need to release that episode? I said that there were creative differences in why it was you, I'm saying I think that it was a really interesting time and Disney sort of growth and at the same time was an interesting time in our country's growth.
And it was the most blatantly. Partisan episode of Blackish we'd ever done was like, you know, and it was that's that's a hard place to be. I'm saying for America's Broadcasting Corporation, I'm saying to the RGA, let us do a lot of things. And I felt like some of the things that we could not agree upon in terms of what it should be, that we shouldn't be there. It was not something that I felt like at that time I wanted to compromise on.
And from the highest levels, you know, Bob Iger saying understood and really supported where I was coming from, but at the same time was running a publicly traded company during a, you know, a merger and things like that. And it was you know, we came to a really unfair at the time, unfortunately, but really respectful, you know, understanding that I did not want to put it out as without changing it. Right. It didn't want to put it out without changing it.
And we decided and I think, you know, I actually spoke to Iger, who reentered Hope and Juneteenth during the time, and we were having a conversation. And Bob, his I wrote my joke is that he's made the CEO factory like it's Bob Iger. I'm probably reading for the role of CEO, like he's the best I've ever talk to you. But like we had a real honest conversation about this episode. He was like, I love the episode.
He was like, I think the time is there. And he's like, I think that there's a lot of curiosity as to actually why it was show writers. Like I was trying to answer it or I was trying to talk about he was like, I think the time is like now to say, like, let people put let's put it out and let people sort of on their own find their answer, what they can find for us. So I feel like that has been, you know what?
I've been really happy with what people have been saying and and what people have been saying. And I feel like it is one of the highlights of my writing career is to be able to like to have something that you felt I was gone that you're really proud of, to be able to come back. And actually during a time when we're actually in all this stuff, speak to people and start a conversation, what can you.
Barasch, thank you again for joining me on the show. Hopefully next time I'll see you in person, my friend.
Enjoy your background and good luck. Good luck with season two of the show.
So I appreciate you. Thank you for to do it. I appreciate humor.
OK, after the break, I'm going to be chatting to Isabel Wilkerson, the author of the smash hit Warmth of Other Suns, because she's got a brand new book out and it's just as mind blowing.
So don't go away. Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Earlier today, I spoke with Pulitzer Prize winning journalist and author Isabel Wilkerson. We talked about her new book, Cost The Origins of Our Discontents, which explores the history of racial disparity in America.
Isabel Wilkerson, welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show. Thanks for having me.
You came into so many people's lives and you've stayed in so many people's lives because of your twenty 10 book, which really just blew, I think, the lid off of a conversation that so many people wanted to have but didn't know how to have.
And that was the warmth of other suns.
You now have a new book which is Know everyone is raving, everyone from Oprah to every book journalist. And I think for a good reason, the book is entitled Cost, and it looks at how society determines whether people should or shouldn't belong, but not just through the lens of race, which is really interesting if we start with that. What is the difference, in your opinion, between cost and race? Will cast is the basically the artificial, arbitrary graded ranking of human value in the society and task determines one standing respect, benefit of the doubt, access to resources or lack thereof of assumptions, competence and even a beauty effectively placed as individuals in a particular hierarchy based upon their perceived value.
Race ultimately is the metric by which in the system that I'm describing here, an American hierarchy race becomes the physical manifestation of that determines where one is viewed as being ranked. Historically, it's the cue card. It's the signifier of where a person is placed in the hierarchy.
For many people, they might jump at hearing this and say like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. How did you say that America has a cost system? Barack Obama was president of the United States. And, you know, you can be a TV anchor, you can be an athlete if you work hard enough. The color of your skin is not controlled by the court system. This isn't India isn't another country in the world where cost is such a big deal.
How do you respond to that? Because, I mean, you can understand why people get so defensive. Absolutely.
That's why I wrote a book about it. Even in the original, most recognized caste system in the world, there are people who had been born to what are known as the untouchables, the the subordinated caste in India who have managed to transcend the extreme barriers that they have faced and to be able to go forward to become physicians and even a prime minister. And there are always exceptions to the rule. But one of the things that I say helped us distinguish between caste and other markers, other ways of measuring people is caste is the bones, race is the skin, and then class is the accents, the annunciation, the the education and dress, the things, the diction, the kind of things that we can control that can help ourselves to elevate ourselves out of the restrictions.
But but class does not mean the same as cats. In other words, if you can act your way out of it, it's class. If you act out of it, it's caste.
So if I can act my way out of it, so if I can code switch or if I can straighten my hair or change the way I look like in my skin, those are all the things that you're going to say falling into the class element of what we see. So how do we how do we think about cost now? Is this like a new problem that we have to handle differently to race and racism and class and classism? Is is this an additional thing or is this the foundation that everything else is built on, that the idea of hierarchy and a caste system is the foundation.
It's the infrastructure of our division. One reason why the word racism is important and it's useful and of course, it is is a reality. But what we're what this is asking us to do is to look beneath what we think. We can see the elite, but look beneath what we thought we knew. And to see that racism, while it's a fraught word that can often carry emotion with that emotion and in that same caste, and the focus is a focus on the structure and the infrastructure, and that takes us away from the blame of anyone.
This this infrastructure that we've inherited has been around since before the country was founded because I described this our caste system and our country actually as an old house. Look at this old house that we have inherited. We did not build the house and we not responsible for whatever might have been not so well done in the in the building of it. But we now are the inheritors of it. It's now up to us as the owners of this house, all of us, not just one group, but all of us in recognizing how interconnected we all are and how we all have to bear the consequences of it, whether we are aware of it or not, we are experiencing the consequences of it.
Where do we know it or not?
It's funny. I've been having these conversations with friends for so long. We're coming from South Africa where we are now in a place where. Because the country shifted power from white to black and the country is now more representative within its power structures. We've come to realize now that cost is now a new issue that we have to deal with. We thought that race was the thing and then we'll be finished. And now you still have a new version of the haves and the have nots determined by, as you say, different signifiers with its language, with its culture.
It's really interesting that, like now we there's another monster we have to tackle on a different level that we didn't think about because we just thought, oh, you just get rid of the race problem and everything is solved. And then now it's like, oh, no, he has he has the root almost of the problem. And race was just the cover that we're dealing with.
I had that that experience when I was in South Africa about what I call situational elevation that occurs when a person's from a marginalized group in one country and they go to another country and find themselves without any action on their own part because of perceptions elevated accidentally. And then when I was in South Africa, people would just hear the accent and I would get invited to parties and receptions and all that kind of thing. And that's part of what is happening in a caste system.
One other thing about this kind of situational elevation is that it allows the country that that has had marginalized people to turn to the newcomers and say to me when I was in South Africa and say, I see, this is proof that if you just do this and do that, you can make or it also says that this is proof that it really is the inferiority of our people, of our marginalized people are, in fact, inferior. And so it works both ways.
It works both ways. And I've experienced both sides of that.
Well, I will say I feel like once again, you've written a piece of work that is going to make us think it's going to make us uncomfortable. But at the same time, I think once we get through it, it will make us more comfortable in understanding that we are part of a thing that we all have to look at. And hopefully we will be part of the people who renovate the house. As as you so eloquently say, thank you so much for joining us on the show and congratulations on yet another masterpiece.
Thank you so much. Well, that's our show for tonight. But before we go, there are a lot of groups out there right now who are working to protect and advance voting rights for the elections in November. One of them is the Alliance for Youth Organizing, which is a national network of local youth led organizations mobilizing people to vote until next week. Stay safe out there, wash your hands. And remember, if your shower pressure isn't strong enough, you can run for president and change it.
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