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You're listening to Comedy Central now. Hey, what's going on, everybody? Welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show. I'm Trevor Noah. It is Tuesday, August 18th, which means we are only seventy six days away from the election and only one hundred and sixty days from knowing who won. Now, as you know, yesterday was day one of the Democratic National Convention. And if you didn't have time to watch all two hours, well, we're going to bring you all of the highlights, just like we promised.


So let's do this, people. Welcome to the Daily Social Distancing Show. From Trivers Couch in New York City to your couch somewhere in the world, the daily social distancing show presents. The Democratic National Convention on Electing America's first black president, Sprent. Now, every convention is not just about officially picking the nominee, it's also about telling a story about what the party represents.


And from the get go last night, it was clear that the Democrats were trying to portray themselves as the party of diversity, unity and also patriotism. The show kicked off with people of every race, ethnicity and gender reciting the Constitution, then the Pledge of Allegiance and then singing the national anthem, after which they were ominously trapped inside an American flag. I'm assuming the only way to set them free is by electing Joe Biden as president. I think that's how the spell works.




And I mean, it's clear why the Democrats have to lay the patriotism on so thick, because between protesting police brutality and kneeling during the anthem, the Republicans have tried to make it seem like Democrats don't love America just because they criticize it. So, look, I get why Democrats are trying to fight that perception. But if I'm going to be honest, you are never going to beat Trump when it comes to symbolic patriotism. I mean, yeah, you're singing the anthem, but any time Trump even sees a flag, he turns to the shit out of it.


Now, after 10 minutes of patriotism put on the show, heard from a number of everyday Americans from the swing state of Pennsylvania all the way to the other parts of Pennsylvania. Business owners talked about their struggles during covid and Trump voters talked about why they stopped supporting him. They also had an appearance by the family of George Floyd, who talked about the need to fight systemic racism. But one of the most powerful moments early in the show came from a woman whose Trump supporting father died from covid-19.


I'm Christner Kisa. I'm one of the many who has lost a loved one to covid. My dad, Marc Anthony or Kissa should be here today, but he isn't. He had faith in Donald Trump. He voted for him, listen to him, believed him and his mouthpieces when they said that coronavirus was under control and going to disappear. My dad went to a karaoke bar with his friends. A few weeks later, he was put on a ventilator and after five agonizing days, he died alone.


His only preexisting condition was trusting Donald Trump. One of the last things that my father said to me was that he felt betrayed by the likes of Donald Trump.


Wow. That was absolutely scathing. And she's right, believing Donald Trump is truly one of the most harmful things you can do. And that was that was even before he was president. I mean, just ask Atlantic City, his first two wives or any graduate of Trump University. The degree was made of asbestos. But after hearing from some regular Americans, it was time to hear from America's weirdest Americans politicians.


And one of the biggest speakers of the night was Republican John Kasich, the former governor of Ohio and a guy who's always moments away from needing the Heimlich maneuver.


He crossed party lines to warn his fellow Republicans about the cost of supporting Trump.


America is at a crossroads. Sometimes elections represent a real choice, a choice we make as individuals and as a nation about which path we want to take when we've come to challenging times. America is at a crossroads today. The stakes in this election are greater than any in modern times. Many of us have been deeply concerned about the current path we've been following for the past four years. It's a path that's led to division, dysfunction, irresponsibility and growing vitriol between our citizens.


Continuing to follow that path will have terrible consequences for America's soul because we're being taken down the wrong road by a president who has pitted one against the other. He's unlike all of our best leaders before him who work to unite us, to bridge our differences and lead us to a united America.


Wow, how creative America is at a crossroads and he's standing at a crossroads. I wonder if that was intentional. And I'm just glad that Kasich went with the safe metaphor for, like, America is at a crossroads because he could have gone with a much more dangerous one.


America is in a place that's about to crash and the only parachute has been thrown out of the window. Maybe this is a bad idea.


Now, understandably, a lot of progressives weren't happy to see the DNC giving airtime to a Republican who doesn't share the party's values. But at the same time, many people in the Democratic Party argue that in order to defeat Trump, they need to broaden their appeal to win those crucial swing states that gave Trump the White House in twenty sixteen. So if it means teaming up with anti Trump Republicans, then so be it. And you want this kind of reminds me of it reminds me of Godzilla.


Like you remember how we hated Godzilla because he loved smashing our shit. But then. Ghidorah showed up and he didn't want to just smash it. He wanted to destroy the entire planet. So then as humans, we had to team up with Godzilla to take our Ghidorah. And who would have ever thought we'd be with Godzilla? We gave him a speaking slot at the convention, but it was worth it because he smashed shit. But we've got a planet.


I'm sorry. I've been watching too many weird movies during quarantine, but don't get a twisted. Kazik may have spoken at the convention, but the prime slots reserved for the Democratic heavy hitters, including the Oggi Progressive himself, Bernie Sanders.


Together, we must build a nation that is more equitable, more compassionate and more inclusive. I know that Joe Biden will begin that fight on day one. Joe supports raising the minimum wage to fifteen dollars an hour. Joe will rebuild our crumbling infrastructure and fight the threat of climate change by transitioning us to one hundred percent clean electricity. Over the next 15 years, Joe Biden will end the hate and division Trump has created.


And then we can finally go back to the hate and division that existed before Trump. You know, the regular hate and division, not this crazy shit with the red hats on the boats. What the hell is that? I'm really impressed with Bernie Sanders because he's doing everything in his power right now to take down Donald Trump. Not only is he giving a full throated endorsement of Joe Biden, but the men stayed up until 10 o'clock to give that speech.


That's not nothing. And Bernie's point was very clear. He was telling his base that progressives cannot afford to cast protest votes like they did in twenty sixteen because this should we live through this was four years of Trump still caring about being re-elected. Imagine what he'd be like. Totally unleashed. Forget pardoning other people. Second term, Trump will be pardoning himself mindcrime. He'll be out there robbing banks like. All right, everybody, I'm going to need you to get on the ground pardoned.


This is a robbery. Put the money in the bank, pardoned. And by the way, man, I love your boobs.


Pardon? Pardoned. So the thrust of the night was clear, people across the ideological spectrum need to unite against Donald Trump and by and large, I'm pretty impressed.


I mean, a virtual convention has never happened before. But the Democrats were able to string together appearances from all around the country, from John Kasich in a field somewhere to Bernie Sanders giving a speech in a cabin where he clearly murdered Groot's entire family and stacked them in the background. But don't get me wrong, the night didn't go entirely smoothly.


Good evening. I'm Congressman Jim Clyburn here in Historic. Good evening. I'm Congressman Jim Clyburn. Hello, America. The price of failure is just too great to imagine. Thank you. Kathy. Oh, I see what's going on here. This was smart of the Democrats trying to make it seem like they have the same embarrassing tech issues as regular Americans, very relatable.


And you got to feel bad for Bernie Sanders, man. An awkwardly timed applause can ruin any speech, no matter how good it is.


Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. Now, the truth is, nobody remembers all the glitches and the bad timing because all anybody was talking about today was the Democrats closer former first lady and walking vision board Michelle Obama.


I understand that my message won't be heard by some people. We live in a nation that is deeply divided. And I am a black woman speaking at the Democratic Convention. But enough of you know me by now, you know that. I tell you exactly what I'm feeling. You know, I hate politics, but you also know that I care about this nation. More than one hundred and fifty thousand people have died and our economy is in shambles because of a virus that this president downplayed for too long.


Donald Trump is the wrong president for our country. He has had more than enough time to prove that he can do the job, but he is clearly in over his head. He cannot meet this moment. He simply cannot be who we need him to be.


For us, it is what it is. Oh. That was ice cold and what made it even more devastating was that Michelle Obama wasn't angry, she wasn't yelling. She stated Trump's complete failure as a president, as an obvious fact. And what's the difference between your mom screaming at you and your mom just casually sipping a coffee and going.


Well, not all kids can be winners. And, you know, another thing I appreciated about Michelle's speech is that she shouldn't shame people. Right? In the last few years, it's been pretty standard in politics to shame people who don't agree with you and don't intend to vote like you.


And a lot of it is fueled by the toxicity of online culture and how divided the country is right now, but instead of doing that, Michelle acknowledged that there are people who don't want to hear what she has to say, and then she respectfully and earnestly engage with those who might want to listen to her and ask them to back Biden. I think that's what made her speech so brilliant. In a way, it's almost unfair that the Obama family was blessed with two charismatic public orators.


I mean, they give great speeches all the time like it's nothing. And then you've got Trump, who acts like he's discovering the English language as he speaks.


And so we have these accomplishments and accomplishments show true, whatever.


Now, it's no surprise that Donald Trump wasn't as impressed by Michelle's speech, but the reason why was pretty surprising.


Pew is over her head and frankly, she should have made the speech live, which he didn't do. She taped it. And it was not only taped to his taped a long time ago because she had the wrong deaths.


God damn. That is one of the biggest cell phones I have ever seen.


One hundred and fifty thousand dead. I've killed 20 thousand more since then, you idiot. Hey, Herman, get a load of this idiot Herman.


So that's how the Democrats kicked off their convention.


And if Democrats can get some more speeches like Michelle Obama's, well, then it's just a matter of time before America turns Donald Trump into Donald Dumped.


Oh, tough room. All right, we've got to take a quick break, but when we come back, we'll celebrate the one 100th anniversary of white women getting the right to vote.


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Welcome back to the Daily Social Distancing Show. Today is the one hundredth anniversary of American women winning the right to vote. It's an important moment in history. And surprisingly, Donald Trump was aware of it.


President Trump announced he will issue a posthumous presidential pardon for Susan B. Anthony, a leader of the women's suffrage movement. She was arrested and convicted for illegally voting in the 1872 election.


I will be signing a full and complete pardon for Susan B. Anthony.


She was never pardoned. Did you know that? She was never pardoned.


What took so long?


Oh, so now voting illegally is OK? I mean, look, this is kind of a nice gesture, I guess.


But based on what we know about Trump, I bet he's only pardoning her because he thinks she has dirt on him. Susan B. Anthony is a great figure in the women's suffrage movement, as she also knows how to keep her. Great thing both of day.


But as important as this date is, the passage of the 19th Amendment didn't help all women.


As Dulci Sloan explains, this month is the 100th anniversary of the 19th Amendment, which gave women the right to vote and the ability to pose in the ground was I voted stickers.


They're like those traps for democracy. But while the 19th Amendment was a major victory for white women, the story is not so simple for black women.


The road to the 19th Amendment started in eighteen forty eight with the Seneca Falls convention, the first women rights meet up in American history. Before that, the only time women could legally gather with the catch book and need to use flowers. Beverly, assuming you didn't sleep through 10th grade history, you probably know some of the people who were at Seneca Falls, like Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Lucretia Mott, and even our home boy, Frederick Douglass got his hair pressed specially for the occasion.


But you know who wasn't allowed to come?


Black women. The whole roster was just a bunch of white people and one black guy. It looked like the cab of a Mission Impossible movie, even though they weren't invited to the party. Black female activists were also fighting for suffrage throughout the 19th century. Everyone's always talking about Susan B. Anthony. Well, today, Susan should be stepping aside to let some black lady shine for whites, for example. Let's talk about Mary Church Terrell. She was incredibly influential in advancing the cause for women's suffrage.


And in 1898, she delivered a speech to white activists. That was one of the first expressions of what we now call intersectional feminism, seeking no favors because of our color.


We knock at the bar of justice, asking for an equal chance.


She is a better woman to me. I think in a bar justice knock somebody upside the head. And Tyrrell isn't alone. Activists like Vidana Truth, Harriet Tubman and Ida B will all push for the vote alongside forgotten activists like Marianne Chattery and France's Ellen Watkins Harper. They were fighting sexism and racism at the same time. You know how hard it is. You can't take your eye off either one for a second. If you're face to face with sexism, racism will sneak up on you like one of those raptors in Jurassic Park.


Clever racists. Anyway, by 1918, thanks to all the tireless activism from black and white suffragists the like, President Woodrow Wilson endorsed the call for a constitutional amendment to legalise women's voting. Both houses of Congress passed the Susan B. Anthony amendment in the summer of 1919. Nineteen, and on August 18, 19 20, Tennessee became a 36 state to ratify the 19th Amendment to the Constitution, which means hurray! All women can now legally vote in federal elections and we all live happily ever after.


Now, what do you think? This is a Chodas movie. Do I look like a Pixar lamp to you? Buckle up, Cinderella, because we ain't done yet. While white women got to stroll into the pool. The problem? Black women like black men still face major obstacles throughout the 20th century, especially in the film. We're talking poll taxes, literacy tests and even violence. If America put as much brainpower on the science of the date of denying black people the vote, we'd be living in more mansions getting served by robot butlers.


Why, yes, robot chiefs. I will have another drink. Finally, in 1965, President LBJ signed the Voting Rights Act, which outlawed racial discrimination in elections on paper.


But even today, Republicans continue inventing ways to make it harder for people of color to vote, like shutting down polling locations in black neighborhoods and making voter ID laws when they know black people are less likely to have I.D.. So even though a hundred years of the 19th Amendment is worth celebrating, America still has work to do when it comes to ensuring truly equal access to elections. So this August can celebrated Susan B. Anthony, then you better be supporting candidates who will finally finish the job for everyone.


Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm glad to do the post man to make sure he delivers my mail in ballot on time. And because he's fine, I see you in the short term. Mm hmm.


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We spoke about this new health and wellness series on YouTube that he's creating and his appearance this week at the DNC Common. Welcome to the daily social distancing.


Show his brother how you feel. Hey, man, I'm doing good taking every day as I can. You know, it's good to have you here because every time I speak to you, I feel like you're starting a new career. Some people know common as the rapper, some people know common as the action star who's fighting against John Wick. Some people know, common as the poet. Some people know commoners as the businessmen, some people know, common as the activist who fights for people to have to be treated more fairly in the prison population.


And now we're going to be talking to Common as the man who's starting like like a fitness brand of fitness and wellness brand. Tell me about that.


Yeah. So, Tavis, this is a health and wellness series called Commonweal. And really everything you name for me is aligned with purpose. Like if your overall purpose of overall purpose is to inspire people, is to spread, God's love is to enlighten and bring joy in. This series is really about health. And wellness has been a it's been a journey for me to understand myself more in a good way, like working out, eating better meditation and, you know, like therapy.


Even I even got introduced to gardening by Do the Ghetto gotten the name wrong. Finley the so like to me to have a health and wellness for me has been like a way to combat with all of the hectic, the chaos, the the fight that we got going against, you know, the leadership. I'm like, man, I got to build myself up. I got to feel great about myself and show myself out there and do the good fight.


You know what to do. What do you do? Try to do anything to stay like in that health and wellness thing?


You can't you can't interview me when I'm interviewing you. That's not how this works. I see what you're trying to do. You're trying to trick me into giving away, like the fact that I don't work out. That's what you try. Are you trying to make me feel bad? Because now I'm going to say, oh, I eat ice cream once a day and then sometimes I do a few push ups. I see what you do in common.


You just trying to make me look bad. That's what you're trying to do now.


You look good. You got that. You got the right size. You got the right mood. So, hey, we just go add a couple of things to that, like a couple of pushups.


You know what I love about what you've been talking about and what you're starting to do is you're trying to encourage people to look inwards. You're trying to encourage people to go like, hey, man, I get that you're protesting. I get that you're involved in politics. I get that you're working. I get that you're trying to survive during this time. But none of that works if you yourself are not working on the inside. And I think we do take that for granted as people just meditating, just taking a moment to breathe, getting the body moving.


It seems it seems like a frivolous thing, but it's really important. I feel like you've always been like that as a human. So when you say you're doing more of that, like what? What changed in your world? Because I've only known common to be a guy who's, like, healthy and conscious about who he is.


You know, I didn't start off. I started off on the south side of Chicago eating barbecue for, you know, not working out, drinking beer, just doing anything else. You know, I'm not knocking any of those things. But eventually at a certain point, I just felt like I wanted to be better in my craft and a better person. And I started like taking steps. It was like just adding different things to my diet, paying more attention to myself.


And I started to be clearer. I started to have I felt more empowered, you know, and and I felt like I was more of myself.


How that is enhanced during this period, to be honest, to have been what you said, I've been able to spend more time doing it, like sometimes, you know, because our days are busy. You know, before the pandemic, I would get up and do my meditation. Just be quick, quick with the prayer, you know, and now I get lot I get time to spend with it. I get to appreciate it, as you said, is super important.


Always say this is no activism without self activism. Really. I mean, I want to go help the world. I want to help people's lives and change the world. I want to be a part of political change. But man, if I'm not good, I can't give my full self rights to that work.


One thing we can't deny is America especially is really good at convincing people that being healthy is expensive and it's really good at making unhealthy choices. The cheaper ones. You know, if you come from a poorer community, if you come from a poorer household, it's a lot easier to reach for a bag of chips. It's a lot easier to only eat fast food. There's nothing wrong with having it once in a while. But some people are trapped in the cycle.


And I wonder if, like, you know, if you've been tackling this or you're looking to tackle this in the series and saying, like, how do we exist in a world where maybe you. Ghetto gardens you were talking about, for instance, is like, how do we exist in a world where we get people to the place where it's like, yo, you may not have money to do the fancy things that a lot of people use to stay healthy, but there are simple, cheaper things that can help maintain your health as well.


Yeah, well, I mean, this this show is geared geared towards that. But we really break it down to like a raw level where you don't have to have a you'll have to go work out as some some gym or have all the, like, super equipment to work out. It's also like just as far as foods go, is is adding certain vegetables to your to your diet and adding certain grains that just and also with the gardening, you can grow your own food wherever you are in the hood, no matter what that takes.


All right. And I think, you know, even from from meditation, it's just like finding your own space. I want this commonwealth for the people in the hood, rather. I want to add a abroad, but is really targeted towards making sure that that no matter how poor you are or what economic structure you in, you can you can do this man. And we deserve that. And I feel like that is one of the things that helps elevate us, that helps us to feel better about ourselves.


I feel like you've always been about elevation. You know, I wonder what you hope to achieve by performing at the Democratic National Convention. I know you're going to be one of the people who's performing. You take your performances really seriously. You try and pick the song that has a message and you're trying to get something across. What do you think people need to hear the most right now that you're trying to give them?


Well, you know, at the Democratic National Convention, we performed the song Glory John Legend. And I like that song is about saying, hey, we we in the ways and the steps of Dr. King and the women and men of the civil rights movement. We of today want to bring people together by extracting all the negative energy and not even like putting our minds towards that, but really focusing on how we can come together and how we can uplift each other, how like we can spread love to each other.


And that fight and I'm a fighter man. I know. You know, I talk about love, but I fight with love to meaning I'm not like my combatant. The leadership that we have in it now is going out and doing for for our people, doing it for our people and bringing and also bringing awareness about voting and voting for the right people like Trayvon. I'm out here like I'm educating myself right now on like a lot of candidates is running down the ticket.


So I stay so I can go to the states and educate people who are from these communities, say, hey, man, it's some good people running in your state. We have an organization, myself and Alicia Keys and a few other artists called Urgency 20 20. And man, I'm really enthused about that because we're going to take you know, of course, the Biden Comilla ticket is beautiful, but we also want to make sure that people down, down the ticket are made aware of and we go out and get these votes.


So that's part of what you know, for me, Glorias is all for that, is that fight and fight with love. I love that man.


You you are you are combative in your love. That sounds like what my mom used to say when she would whip my ass better in my love. Come and thank you so much for joining us on the show. I appreciate you. I can't wait to see you again in person. Look after yourself.


So please go. Brother Lutcher, thank you so much.


Coming. When we come back, Veronica Chambers is going to be talking to us about her brand new book that shows you the suffrage movement in a way you've never seen.


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We talked about the one hundredth anniversary of American women getting the vote and about her new book on the suffrage movement.


Veronica Chambers, welcome to The Daily Social Distancing Show.


Thank you. It's nice to be socially distancing from you.


I really appreciate appreciate having you on the show because you've done something that I honestly think is one of the most crucial things ever, and that is writing a book that teaches people about history. And although you've written it predominantly for middle schoolers, I feel like everyone should read this book because it's about the suffrage, the suffrage movement in America. It's about women fighting for the right to vote. But what I find interesting is that it tells a part of history that is oftentimes overlooked.


Why did you think this book was so crucial?


Well, about a year and a half ago, maybe a little more, we were thinking we knew the anniversary of the 19th Amendment was coming up. And we kind of gathered in a room at The New York Times and we said, what do we know? And it turned out not a lot. And so the idea of writing the middle of the middle grade book was really from that thing that journalists do, which is like explain it to me, like I was a 10 year old.


And if you can explain it to someone like your 10 year old, you really actually have to learn a lot to distill it. And that's what we did. And it kind of shaped everything, including all the coverage we're doing now. I won't lie.


One thing that I really found interesting in the way you wrote about their stories is they seem pretty badass. You know, like normally when you read about the suffrage movement, it gets it sometimes can be portrayed as like and they asked for the right to vote and they asked again and they asked again. But you portray them as really tactical geniuses in politics.


One of the first things we did is we had a roundtable of historians and one of them, Kate LeMay from the Smithsonian. She was like, suffrage needs a rewrite. This is not a boring history. These are bad ass political strategists who worked for 90 years to get the job done and that stuck in my head. So I really tried to let that infuse the writing in it. I really fell in love with these women. I have to tell you, they just became like my heroes.


And I couldn't believe that I didn't grow up knowing about them.


This book is about the women who fought for their right to vote. It's also the story which is really difficult, of how women fought for the right to vote. But not all of those women were treated equally when the vote was was was given to women. Tell me a little bit more about that.


Well, you know, the suffrage movement really has its history in abolition, the movement to end slavery, and then the civil war comes and the 15th Amendment is up and they decide to push for black men to get the vote before white women. And quite frankly, you know, we have a sort of cultural moment of Karens, the Karens of the 19th century. We're not having it is basically like, how dare these men who are just off plantations get the right to vote before us?


And it really sets up a pecking order that we see today, which is white men, white women, black men, black women. And there's this clash and it really breaks apart the movement. And it's it's difficult and it sets the tone for a lot. But I will say that I think that what Kimberle Crenshaw said about black women showing up and showing out, you see it so much in the history, as early as 18 times, 18, 20 years before Seneca Falls, black women are giving speeches about women's rights and the model lifting as we climb is really about opening the doors wide, as you can get it for as many people as we can get it.


Susan B. Anthony is somebody that so many people look up to and they go like men. If it weren't for her, women wouldn't have the right to vote. And this was wonderful. But she does have a complicated history as as a journalist and as a writer. How did you try and navigate that story of somebody who has done something amazing but also has extremely problematic views and tried to hold other people back?


Well, that was definitely you've hit the nail on the head in terms of one of the challenges, but one of the things that I fought really strongly for. I remember sitting in a meeting and someone said we should do a chapter called Susan B. Anthony is canceled. And I was like, you're not canceling people of the street. I'm sorry. I'm like, we're just not like it's so flip and so whatever. I mean, the fact is, is that she dedicated her whole life to it.


You know, the movement took so long, only one woman who signed at Seneca Falls lived to vote in 1920. That's how long this movement took. So I think that, you know, we just have to say some people had problems. And I think we can hold a more complicated view now, appreciate them for what they did and know that they had problems and hopefully teach our kids to learn from that.


You know, I really think this will be great for kids to see themselves because, yes, you have white women who are fighting for the right to vote, but they're joined by black women who are also fighting for the right to vote, who, as you said, inspired much of the movement. You also have Asian women who are fighting for the right to vote. You have leathernecks, women who are fighting for the right to vote. And it really does paint a more not just diverse but really like superhero picture of this band of people who fought in different ways for this.


Right. Do you think it's important for us to reframe the story and tell it with all of the excuse, the pun that that it truly deserves?


You know, we think about diversity is ticking boxes, but really, when you get into the story of these women of color and suffrage, they are really futurists. They are thinking about not just themselves, but other generations. Sixteen year old Mabel Pingelly led one of the largest suffrage parades in history, knowing that the Chinese Exclusion Act meant that she herself would not be able to vote. In 1920, the suffragettes who were futurists were thinking not just about themselves, not just about the gram.


And that's what I try to teach my daughters and friends, is you don't have to have, like, likes to be a bad ass. You just have to do the right thing, be focused and listen to your heart and try to help people.


You know, when kids are reading your book, what would you like them to take and apply to today? What would you hope that they try and inspire themselves to think about for tomorrow? Because many of them will go like, well, everyone can vote. So I guess the job is done. What would you hope that they got to from this that they may not necessarily immediately jump to?


Well, I think it's funny because you think that I remember being in school and thinking of the civil rights movement has done. I'm never going to have to fight that battle again. I think the one thing I would love for kids to know is that there's never just one thing going on at one time. And that's why it's actually hard to make a movement, because white suffragists were like, we have to focus on women and to be well-spoken. That comes in and says we have to talk about lynching.


And then Rosa Sniderman and Margaret Inchy come in and they say, we have to talk about child labor laws and see factory conditions for poor women. And the fact is, that's the complicated thing about making a difference, is knowing that nothing is happening in isolation. And really the trick of working through coalition and building a movement is being able to hear the voices at around you and gathering together to do the work of many issues. That is the challenge of leadership.


And I hope the book gives a little bit of a glimpse of how these amazing women did that.


I hope someone gets books like these to the White House because I think they're not just fantastic for kids, but they're fantastic for adults who may read at a child's level. So thank you so much for joining us on the show. And congratulations on creating a wonderful, wonderful book that everybody should know about.


Thank you so much. It's been an honor. Thank you again, Veronica.


Well, that's our show for tonight. But before we go, I wanted to remind you that there are a lot of groups out there right now who are working to protect and advance voting rights in the elections coming up in November. Now, one of them is the Alliance for Youth Organizing, which is a national network of local youth organizations mobilizing people to vote until tomorrow. Stay safe out there where a mosque. And if you see John Kasich on the side of the road, please throw him a sandwich.


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