You're listening to DraftKings Network. Spring. Try something new in Northern Ireland, like ax throwing at Belfast's Urban Ax Yard or Moonlight Kayaking in Derry, cave snorkeling on the Causeway Coast, or climbing Kolka Mountains' stairway to Heaven, Dundrum Bay oysters at the Buckshead Inn, or a detox wrap in Armaes the Kalevi Castle Estate. And it's all so close to home. Book your short break now at discovernorther Ireland. Com. Northern Ireland. Embrace a giant spirit. Welcome to the Big Sway. Presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebitard podcast. I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, Fatface and the habitual liar. I want an employee report card. I believe that the listeners and the viewers of this show would enjoy. They'd even like to hear from twice as many of you, I'm sure, about the inner workings of what it's like to work here because it looks like a hell of a lot of fun.

Surely it isn't. Surely it isn't. Surely these people do not look this ragged because every day is a merry ride over rainbows. Tell me, Chris Cody, where are you on both our report cards and getting to these report cards for the commanders and for everybody else in the NFL?

Well, if this was I would forge the signature. I would not have my mom sign the report card. You guys ever have that when you were young? You get the report card and then it didn't do so great. So it's like, I don't want my mom to see this, even though my mom always knew when they came out, so I could never actually do this. But I always wanted to be the kid that could I forged my mom's signature.

You forged your parents' signature?

Oh, shut up. Everyone did. I forged my parents' signature, just never for a report card because my grades were always pretty good. Dork. If you didn't, that's the more indictment. Every kid at some point forged their parents' signature.

It was the progress report that really got me because I wouldn't really get started until halfway through the nine weeks. Like four and a half weeks is when I would really start, all right, I got a lock in. The Jimmy Butler of education. Exactly. I was like, all right, I got these across the board, but I know I can take them to Bs and maybe a couple Cs. In the last four and a half weeks of the semester. The problem is that progress report at four and a half weeks was damning. So there was times where I'd have to bite the bullet. And here's the difference, guys, and I'm going to tell you, young listeners, right now, I'm here to help you. Uncle Tony's here. So what you do is this. What you do is this. There's going to be one time, Dan, there's going to be one time that you got to bite the bullet.

Let my boy cook.

And give your parents the progress report without falsifying their name. Because you got to see the signature? No. Because you see the signature plenty when you're a kid. The thing is, you got to let them know, Hey, didn't cut it this nine weeks. Here you go. Just so you can see it. After that point, they'll put the fear of God in you. You'll kick it back up in the last nine weeks, in the last four and a half weeks of the nine weeks. But then going forward, you sign off all the signatures. Hey, look, I got these, but that's not...

I can get it. I'm here for Uncle Tony's, Listen up, young people. I've got a highly agrift for you.

Our average 45-year-old audience really appreciates that.

I'm coming for the new generation, Dan, of the new generation of the Levitard show.

I'm helping them, younger and smarter.

Kid listening in your dad's car, right?

Exactly. Mike, I've been surprised recently. We're still in the 20s somehow. I don't know how that is exactly, but Tony helps there. Jeremy, you can't have a lower grade than be in your entire life of getting report cards, right?

I got a C plus for one quarter in calculus, and it was devastating. I still blame it for the reason that I didn't get into a particular college because-What college?

Name it.

It was UF. I didn't get into UF, but I got in everywhere else I applied, and it was a major gripe. On progress reports, I was excited to bring those home because I was always like, A's and B's, baby. It was the most exciting thing. Totally different world I lived in. I did the Tiger Woods fist bump for a C plus.

Big dog. I'm right there with you on the opposite side of that hand.

If I had less than an A, I was genuinely upset.

Yeah. Jeremy, your life has been an unbroken boulevard of green light.

That's exactly right.

It's infuriating. Yeah.

It comes up in therapy quite often, actually. A lot of imposter syndrome because I'm like, How does this keep being so easy?

I wasn't a great student, but my advice is, Have a parent die? Oh, what a load off.

Put it on the poll, please. I'm going to write that down. Put it on the poll. As my parents are in their 80s, have a parent die? What a load off? Mike, that's brutal.

Huge relief, though. She was feisty. You did not want a bad progress report around her.

Let me tell you. Well, if you're going to have a parent die, have it the one that's more...

Yeah. Once my dad was left around, I was like, Okay, sub.

If your dad had died, you would have been screwed still.

I ran away from home because I got a B. It's A, B. It was the only thing my dad ever- That's a good grade.ever mentioned. That's a good grade.

Why are you running away for a B?

No, because my father-Popy? It's I'll be the only thing. Yeah, I was-It's a damn good grade. I was a senior in college. I would have ran.

I'd Peacock. I had a Q3 one year where it was close to a three point. I was like, guess I'm Einstein now.

My sweet spot, one time I got all Bs and a C, I was like, what a king I am. The worst academic experience I had was when I was in college and I got a B minus on one of my grades. It put me on academic probation for the honors College. Oh, okay. Yeah, I almost didn't have an opportunity to be the team leader within the honors College. Not going to say anything.

You guys just shook out of me. I'm actually shaking out of my body something that you have triggered a legitimate childhood trauma. Not now. A legitimate childhood trauma because I'm just now remembering that my father, who was impossible to please, I was He was getting straight A's, and I got a B, and it's the only time he commented on the report card at any time. I ran away from home in whatever it was, fourth grade, fifth grade, and got to the end of a bus stop a couple of blocks away, and I'm like, Well, I'm a kid. Now, what do I do? After an hour, I've run away, but I'm like, Okay, I'm really hurt.

How much easier would have been had he just been dead?

So put it on the poll. As I said, Juju, Have a parent die, what a load at Levitard Show. How is this list looking? Who's put together the list of categories for how we're doing around here as employers?

Dano, I went around and put together a list for all of our team.Uncle.

Tony did it.Yup..

We came back with a grading scale that I think you'd be proud of. I went to every employee, got it anonymously, clearly, and did all the calculations, and we put them up here. Let's put them up on the screen for everybody. I'm going to read it for the podcast audience. Treatment of families. We get an A here. We're a family. We love families around here. We're big family people.

Food and cafeteria. Valarie gets treated very well.

Yes, as all of our families do.

Food and cafeteria. But not as well as Valarie.

A minus. I don't know why the minus there. I think maybe Danny Benita said something about something. I don't know. I don't know what happened there. Holadera, we got A plus. You know how that goes, Danny. Yes.

So that's just you guys. Tom Fuller.

I should have put Tom Fuller, but I think Holadera was better. It could be- This would have looked very different if we were still at the Clevelander, by the way.

The whole list would have looked different? Huge upgrading facilities over here.

Can we do the Clevelander? After this, we could do it.

We do that. Locker Room, we got an A.

Gun Violence, A plus, by the way.

Locker room, we get an A. Look around here. It's a beautiful place. Parking, C. I take the train, so I wasn't- First, I'm learning of it.

What a good thing to learn there.

First, I'm learning of it. C minus. We have to go high up. Yeah.

People didn't really like the parking situation.

Your experience with parking is a a little bit different because everyone else has to go up 12 more ramps.

At the Clevelander, it was only four, right?

At Clevelander, the Clevelander parking garage was worse, pal. That shit on the floor. Look, anyone that wants to complain about the parking sitch here, please take a moment to reflect on your Clevelander days.

If I may for just a second on... You guys do realize we're wildly overpopulated, okay? I don't know if people know what's going on in South Florida right now, especially on the beach, but they just run spring break out of here. Now they're just being aggressively tossing economies and people out because, No, we don't want too much. It's $100 parking, and it's because we're so over crowded with the rest of the country fleeing down here. We're so over crowded that we live in a place that There's no place that can build out anymore into stuff that's not marshland. So everything goes straight up. Everything goes straight up, and it's the least affordable housing market in America. Hialea is like five. That's the truth. Everything Everything's going straight up. We're going to be parking in the sky from elevators, 60 floors up for the rest of our time in whatever this downtown is.

Well, right now, our report card says C. There's obviously room for improvement. The second half of the nine weeks, we're bringing it back. Let's put the report card back up. Support staff, A. I mean, what an incredible support staff we have around here, please. Thank you, Steve. Wait room. Wait room, A plus. I mean, Dan, you know how I see you in there putting in work.

Wait a minute.

We all saw yesterday you put in that work.

I have been putting in that work. This is funny that you guys are looking at this here, though. This looks like you just went to Franky and said, Franky, your security, what should you get as a grade? And he said, A.

That's how that worked.

No, he said A plus, and we were like, no. He's a C plus. Temper expectations.

A C plus. He's the last line of defense between people that are using that bathroom and the three ratfinks that continually don't put the toilet seat down.

Leave the toilet seat up.

Sorry about that. Security, A. I'd give it a triple A plus. Team Travel, A. Very nice across the board. Head Coach, D for Dan. For Dan, though. D for Dan.

It's a brutal thing.

But you're also part of ownership, Dan.

So A. You know what the A in Dan stands for? I do believe it's a good score.

Pretty good across the board, if you're going to be honest, Dan. I don't know. There's a lot of room for improvement on a couple of things, but we could do a kick-ass job.

This is crushing to me. Sorry. I want to run away right now and sit on a park bench for an hour like I did from my father because I brought home a D. A D in coaching.

For Dan, though.

I feel like Mike's been coaching us for a while, though.

Only your name was Alan.

Right now, we got a bit of an interim situation. You got a Coach Jim Bates situation going on right now.

What was the most interesting thing to you guys about those stupid grades? About the fact-Queen Bay.

Queen Bay being third, that you're better off not having an owner in your upper echelon.

Well, communism in there.

Do we understand? We just generally understand how you have to negotiate better terms so that your players, their 53 bodies on the court, are on the field for your team, that when they travel, they should have their own room. They should all have their own room.

It's not if you're team building. There's a reason for it. That is true. I can be talked into it, provided that the room is nice.

Jacksonville went from 28th to fifth because of one thing. They got rid of the rats.

Mike, you want a room on the next trip?

Absolutely not. I'm way too bouge, and certainly not with you.

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Don Levatard. Listen, it could be Julius Randall's building. How about that? The Mecca. Ours, Julius. The Mecca.

Stugatz.

Steve Martin was a prop comment. You said that? I said it two seconds earlier than you.

This is the Don Levatard show with the Stugatz.

I think the single greatest professional honor that this show has ever gotten in terms of creating things for people that make them laugh or feel good. I believe a few comedians Many legends have interacted with our show in a way that was playful, fun, and forever memorable, whether it be Alan Thick or Bob Einstein or Richard Lewis, where they graced us by interacting with our show and going along with the bit with us. Richard Lewis and our relationship was only as a show jostling with him, allowing him to be maximum Richard Lewis. Now, curb your enthusiasm at the end of its great run, and the season so far has been tremendous. I can't believe that Larry David could take the neuroses of his daily life and turn it into endless content that never runs out. His friendship with a comedy legend, Richard Lewis, doing that show at the end. Man, I saw an interview with Seinfeld and Larry David, where Seinfeld was asked with Larry David, Are you going to ever do a sitcom or anything like that again? He's like, No, hell no. For what? But I did it already. To accomplish what? And Larry David's like, That's a great idea to ruin it all, just to ruin it all.

Then he made Curb your Enthusiasm, which somehow has aged with grace, even though the last trailer I saw before this season, all I saw them running around a golf course was, Man, those guys look so old. They look so old. And Richard Lewis was dying. But he laughed until the end. He's still out here making great comedy right before he passes. Do you guys do you remember? Mike, do you remember how close we were to trying to do a remote from Bob Einstein's funeral because he was around our show so much and because he would have thought it funny?

Yeah, I do know that I don't necessarily think that there was a content play, but I know that Allison, when she was here, almost went to the funeral, and Richard Lewis was certainly born out of... I do miss the celebrity prognosticator segment because we got to know people over those longer runs, and someone like Richard Lewis probably wouldn't have entered our environment. We're not for that segment. That show has given us two of our favorite guests ever. They were older comedy legends, and I think part of the cool thing about our show is we introduced in some cases, a younger audience to absolute Titans of the game. Richard Lewis is a legend. Bob Einstein was a legend. To have them both in the same show and both pass while the show is still actively running, I know is, considering the popularity of that show, tough for a lot of people. If you operate inside the Venn diagram of a lot of people, which is like our show and like Herbieer enthusiasm, I'm sure that news hit you very hard.

Chris and Roy edited what you're about to hear here in memory of Richard Lewis because they remember almost the entirety of the relationship. It was funny, contentious, and he would basically just come on and get deeply insulted and scream at me. Hi, Richard.

Hello, Richard.

Hello, sir. You ready? Let's go. He's ready. All right, he's ready. Let's go. Ready? Three, two, one.

Join. Are we going now? How dare you embarrass me in front of your Well, I'm trying to help you. What happened to you?

You've changed. What do you mean what happened to us? I've never talked to you before in our lives.

I've streamed your show, and you used to be a very genuinely nice guy, and you turned to a bastard.

Join now by our friend and nemesis, the comedian Richard Lewis.

I'm no nemesis to you. I'm only a nemesis to Wolverines.

Thank you for making time for us, Richard. Are you just sitting there anxious?

Stop giving me any of this crap. I don't believe a word you're saying. I'm sick of this nemesis crap. I'm sick of this fake fight we have. You know that we used to be lovers back in the day in Cuba?

You were so gentle.

I wasn't that gentle, and I used to give you all the tips we so much money betting. You used to call me Olivia. What is this Olivia crap? Don't spread these rumors. You know what I saw? I was looking at this show the years I did with you. You have your fans who love you, and you're great. I'm a big fan of the whole show. You say, How was Richard? Did he suck? Was he any good? How is his teeth? Are they yellow? Are they white? Why judge me? I've been doing this for 48 years. You were four years old when I did Carnegie Hall. You have some nerve. I used to live in Florida. I have friends who call me every time I do your show. He's a piece of crap. Why does he put you down? I said, I don't know why he puts me down. I'm a big fan. I'm a sports fan. I've been a comic my whole life. I devoted myself to the arts. I don't get it. Just tell me why you hate me so much.

Richard, devoting yourself to the arts. Come on, Richard. All right, so that was a bit of a lie.

By the way, I don't mean to be narcissistic, but we're probably going to blow up North Korea. But Curve does start October first. Okay.

An interesting- No matter what.

Okay.

Curb your enthusiasm looks like so much fun. Everything you guys are doing. Thank you for being- When do I talk? When do I talk? Okay, go ahead. You go ahead. I'm on tour.

I'm going to New York, then Philly, then LA and San Francisco. I'm wasting my time with you, marking me.

Blunt Talk. It's premiering this August on stars. He recently attended Ringo Stars' 75th birthday party because- No, I only have 400 seconds.

I'm fed up with all of you. What happened? Blunt Talk is going to be on stars in August, and it's the greatest cast I've ever been with, and Sir Patrick Stuart is my client. I'm a psychiatrist. Sure, mock me.

Well, you're full of it. I mean, because you say every time- I'm not Well, that's what it means. Yeah, because every time you come on with us, you say something you're involved with is the greatest thing you've ever been involved with.

No, that was just a hooker in Vegas. Okay. I'm just kidding. I never used that. Never. I never had a hooker in my life. I'm just kidding. It wasn't Vegas. I'm married now. I'm very happy. I'm a hypochondriac, and I used to put a Michelin condom over my body. All right. I know Larry Davidson since I'm zero. I was a premie, and I had to stay in a hospital for three days, and then he was born, and he tried to hang me by my umbilical cord, moron. And then I went to a sports camp, and he was there, and we were enemies. And then I never saw him again until we were comics and we were best friends. So one day we were going over our childhood, and When we were like 24 or so. And then we realized we were the same kids at 12 who hated each other at sports camp. It was a billion to one shot. It was pretty cool, man.

I got to imagine that you and Larry David, that wasn't much of a sports camp. In terms of general athleticism at 12 years old.

No, no, it was wrong. Again, I was a great athlete, just too short for basketball, but one of the great stickball hitters in Jersey and New York. In fact, I'm in a professional stickball league in LA. No, you're not. I teach T. Rosen stickball. So there you go.

You eat professional stickball?

He calls me up and he says, Let's go to dinner. And I go, What time? He goes, 401. I go, 401? He's a very wealthy man. I make a good living. I've been working my whole life, but he doesn't have to treat me. Screw him. I go to this fancy restaurant, Beverly Hills. I get there an hour early, okay? I go to the Major D. I go, Here's my credit card. Mr. Lewis, no, Mr. David always pays for it. No, screw Mr. David. I could pay for him. No, no, don't yell at us. I don't care. Let him yell at you, you babies. I'm paying. So I give him my credit card, Larry comes an hour late. We were always broke for years when we started. I said, Larry, why don't we just order what we used to do? I'd order chicken, you'd order beef, you'd get some soup, we'd split it. And he said, No, don't embarrass me. I go, What am I going to embarrass you. The chef will tell me what I want. The chef will tell you what you want? What are you, nutcase? You changed on me? So the chef brings out 20 dishes on one of these Lazy Susans, 20 different entrees.

And we don't even speak for more than one minute, and the phone rings and he goes, Oh, my God, I forgot. It's a poker night. It's Steve Martin's house, and he leaves me.

You have to pay for it.

He leaves me with 20 entrees and a $1,200 bill.

I love Einstein, too. He's one of the funniest guys, but he's the loudest human being. It's like walking in where you go to a restaurant. Let's say you go to a funeral and you're walking to the casket. I swear to God, he'll say this, So, and I don't do a good impression, he goes, Two vaginas walking and they say hello to a testicle. And then the testicle turns around and makes a milkshake. But I'm saying He screams us out while we're looking at the dead body in the conference. That's why he's the greatest. He has no filter. No filter. I don't know why. He's such a nutcase, but I love- You all are, though.

Who's the biggest... You're all nutcases.

All of you. You're like Gandhi. You're a mental case. Ringo introduced me to my wife, so why don't you bite me?

Ringo. I'm calling BS on that. Ringo didn't introduce you to your wife. A Beatle did not introduce you to the wife.

Now tell me that Ringo is not one of my oldest friends 30 years, and introduced me to my wife and said that George is a huge fan of my standup. Why are you lying to your fans? You're making me look like a schmuck.

What did you just do to us here? We were just talking to you about the Knicks, and all of a sudden, you told us a story about Michael Jordan sitting next to you that didn't have anything to do with anything.

That's because I'm a hoax. I'm a hoax as a comic, as a guest, as a husband. I have no sperm left. I can't have children.

I'm sorry.

It's all bad. I got it. Let me say right now, I think this is the greatest interview you've ever had. When you think of that, this is the best interview you had in two years, you clown. This interview was the best you had in five years, you moron.

How come I did two Super Bowl commercials in the last five years? You know, bite me. Really. I'm tired of your fans thinking, I'm not good, I'm not funny, I don't care about you. You vote. I don't vote for your guests. What crap is that? How was he? Was Is he any good? Was his hair any good? Is he losing it? Is he getting bald in the back? Screw you.

Put it on the poll. Was Richard Lewis any good this time at Leventhal Show? Or were Richard Lewis's teeth yellow? Put that on the poll as well.

Even my wife, my wife was not a gigantic sports freak. She likes your show, and she says she heard me on the phone when she went, You suck.

Yeah, put it on the poll.

My own My wife.

Richard Lewis is hair- My wife put you ahead of me. Do you know the Ohio State fight song? You want to lead us to break on the Ohio State fight song?

No, it's okay. On Ohio, where's your deli? I need something. It doesn't matter what the words are. Where's your deli? I'm a graduate. I graduated with a BS in marketing. Then when he has time to set up in the pocket, he really does have a shotgun.

Wait a minute, nemesis. Do you know your quarterback's name?

No. Names are unimportant. It's just a position. How dare you quiz me on Ohio State like this and embarrass me.

I'm just curious because- I'm one of the most famous.

Yeah, I know his name, Irving Schlockowitz. They probably got 11 guys who knew Walter White They played, and they ran the offense with the first team. Really?

You're accusing your team of being on meth?

No, I'm saying they hired people to make believe they were on mess to run the fast offense.

Try to listen to me. That's much different. You're right. What was the best time, the single best time, the most fun time to be Richard Lewis?

Sleeping with beautiful actresses. And when the Knicks and the Jets and the Mess won in '69. By the way, what's going to What happened to the Patriots' quarterback? I've been on the road. Is he going to do the four-game thing?

Well, it's just a topic from two months ago.

You see, that's what you guys care. You just care about ratings, and you don't care about ethics.

That's right. On that note, we're going to let you go.

You know why? Because you hate me now.

Yeah. If we cared about ratings, you wouldn't be on with us, Richard.

You think I was yelling at you, but I worship you.

Richard, if we cared about ratings, you wouldn't be on with us right now.

That was the meanest thing ever said to me. Yes, logging your You're block. My mother tried to push me back into the womb. That's the exact thing she told me. If I cared about ratings about our family, we wouldn't have you.

I wish she had.

Look, I apologize for all of this. You can edit No, we can't edit it. It's live. I was trying to be entertaining for you and for all the women in your life.

Don Lebatard. God doesn't even know what this list is. He was ahead of Tom braided, who also won a playoff game.

A couple, yeah.

That was literally the most confusing list we've ever done on this. He He's got a better shot of coming in. Give him a chance.

He's got more letters. I'm mad.

I'm angry at you.

I want to leave. Stugatz. This would have been your day. This should be. You should own the sports media landscape right now.

I am. Top seven guys. I would not want the judge.

No, no. Fuck you. No.

No, I'm not allowing it. Give me a chance, guys.

No, no.

No, I'm not giving him a chance. I'm giving him 20 years.

It's a hard shit.

What? I'm giving him my pride.

This is the Dan Levatard Show with the Stugats.

In fairness to Chris, it's really hard to capture the essence of a Richard Lewis appearance by having it be bite-sized because nothing that he ever really did on our show was bite-sized. The meandering, the rambling, it was part of the bit with him. So that's why we honored him appropriately.

Plus, I wanted to kill a full segment.

Not nearly respectful enough to him, by the way. A legitimate legend. Our show was wildly disrespectful.

That's all it was. I'm telling you, there wasn't a lot of heartfelt-No, it was zero.

No, no, no. We had a very superficial, shallow relationship with Richard Lewis.

It did actually It was like, Roy cut out at the end. There was like, I love you guys. Same to you. But Roy cut that part out.

Really, Roy?

Yeah, cut for time.

It needed to be a little bit shorter.

Ten seconds long.

Just try to be official. I'm happy we cut anything for time here.

Why would you have made it with the I love you?

It was 14 minutes long before I touched that.

I actually have another- And then it was 13:30 after he touched it. I actually have another 40-second clip that I was like, this doesn't fit the montage, but it is funny. I'll turn the volume up on the- By the way, Leonard Nemort passed today.

He was a buddy of mine, and it's very said he was a brilliant guy and his acting was only matched by his class. Anyone who loved him, my condolences.

Richard, what did you just do to our show? We were talking about sports, and then you talk about your show. Pardon me.

For mentioning someone who dies. You are a rude human being.

I'm with Louis on this. No, let me tell you what I'm careful. That's all. Oh my God.

Okay, you can't cut that.

I'm just not going to cut for time.

He's the Louis. What's going to happen? You better come to my funeral.

Okay. You could see Richard and Kevin Pollock tonight, 8:00 PM, our nemesis.

Nice segue, by the way. You're brilliant. I used to really worship you. I think now you're a complete I am pretty sure I should let people know this part of it, I think.

He didn't know anything about our show, and the joke was that this comedy legend was coming and being on this dumb Miami show for no good discernible reason.

To pick Bingo 6.5..

When he knew nothing about football and was working in the gutter well beneath where his talents had taken his life.

Did you see Larry David's statement that he gave to HBO that has been circulated. Here's a quote, Richard and I were born three days apart in the same hospital, and for most of my life, he's been like a brother to me. He had the rare combination of being the funiest person and also the sweetest, but today he made me sob. For that, I'll never forgive him.

It was well written. When I read it, I'm ending on a joke there because their friendship laughed until the end. Of course, that's the one thing that would reach through all the neuroses of Larry David and reach him, the mortality of losing a friend When you saw in their on-air chemistry that those two knew how to be friends.

I'm telling you, though, you guys got distracted when you heard I'm with Louis on this. You missed the part of this sound that I wanted to play for you.

When I thought, here's what's going to happen. Richard Louis, he was a funny guy. What's the weather? That's what's going to happen. You better come to my funeral.

Okay.

So we're going to invite him. You agreed. Confirmation.

When do you head out? You need to give him some vacation time. Okay.

We should go tomorrow.

You want to do the show from out there? Sure. How heartfelt are your condolences?

I don't want to do the show from out there. It's in poor taste.

I'm with Louis on this.

But we were invited. Well, Dan was. That's binding. Okay. All right. He's binding. He said, okay. Yeah, you did say, okay. He meant it. As you know, he was always super serious during his appearances here. But yeah, rest in peace, comedy legend and friend of the show, Richard Louis.

We can handle the show without you tomorrow, Dan. If you need to go, we understand.

Live report.

If you want. He had a great lid in his heyday, too. We're just saying he should pay for his back. Great lid.

I don't I don't know how many people... I don't know necessarily that we should be doing the entirety of the eulogy on behalf of what that man's career was, but you're talking about 45 to 50 years in stand-up comedy, and I think people understand that. I think that that's a career without a safety net, that those are artists that don't have big employers with health care benefits and stuff. You can latch on to shows as a writer and stuff. But to be able to create the career that that guy created out of just his funny and his neuroses because his whole bit was to be publicly insecure like that in a way that crawled around in his skin. The show that he and Larry David do together, he wasn't on from the very beginning, was he? Was he on from the very beginning of that?

It was pretty apparent that even if you weren't a fan of Richard Lewis, but maybe you like Seinfeld, he was without saying it there, and he touched on it, he was a muse for Larry David. He is one of the most influential voices in comedy in that he influenced Larry David. Richard Lewis's legacy probably doesn't get the credit it deserves.

I'm guessing that when Larry David composes himself to give you his real thoughts on what it is that that brotherhood was, I will guess that he will be introspective enough to understand and grateful enough, even though he doesn't tend to give off very much joy or gratitude in his work, grateful enough to say, Do you realize that I never ran out of material because me and Richard Lewis were always just walking around town? Richard Lewis would... I'm guessing that this is at the core of their friendship because I do wonder how they never ran out of material. It's because really, you can't serve breakfast after 11. That's a hard no on my eggs. If I'd been here at 10:55, you could do it, but you don't have the technology to do it. I'm guessing that's just them televising their friendship.

Well, 100%. All of the Seinfeld stuff that works so well, and certainly Kerb after that, where it just picked up and ran with the ball, is all observational, and you could totally see how that's born with brunch between Larry David and Richard Lewis.

And in some ways, right? Because this is not... Larry David doesn't give off anything but misery. The work is funny, but he gives off not a whole lot of happy. Do you realize that in the neuroses that him and that friend shared, the fact that it was an endless source of content is the only way he can go after Seinfeld and do another... Nobody believes he's done. When his friends are dying, and these are the people who made him laugh, and Larry doesn't seem joyous, but he finds the funny in the dark. When your friends are dying all around you, and you can't get through the season without losing Richard Richard Lewis, and before that, Bob Einstein, who he loved similarly. It's been heartbreaking, but the season has been good, Mike. The art that they're making through three shows when it's hard for comedy to age. I'm hoping we view rest of this with a gentle eye because it's hard to finish these things correctly.

People have been hard on this season of Curb. I've seen memes putting Hakeim Olajuw on in a Raptors uniform, equating it to this season. I don't think that's been the case. If you're tired of the observational humor from Curb. Why are you even watching Curb? That's the show's deal. It's built on that. Maybe it's leaning heavier than you're used to. Because I think in the last few seasons, Curb has had a singular thread and story carry it through the season, and I actually wasn't a huge fan of that. In many respects, it's getting back to its roots.

Can I ask you guys as someone who just really can take some of the fun out of what I'm watching by just marveling at the construction of things. Will anyone in the audience allow history and art to gracefully finish when you consider the degree of difficulty of writing 25 years of this is the most popular television? And the standard is through the sky on what you're doing. If this gets worse, I'm going to notice. I'm waiting for you to get old. I'm waiting for it to get worse.

I'm asking you- Are we still talking about Richard Lewis?

I'm asking you sincerely about their careers at the end.

I hope that we're afforded that opportunity with a passionate fan base and leaning into some of those personal relations that we built through over time, because we're approaching our 20th anniversary. There's a lot of young bucks in the game right now with bigger platforms, and we're trying to find our way. I think that we can maybe draw inspiration for how Larry David had this whole second chapter. I'm making it about us.

You really did at the end.

I thought you were talking about us.

I wasn't, though. I was talking about the career of Richard Lewis.

Well, listen, Uncle Tony, you'll be fine.

Sounded like you were talking about the reviews of curb your enthusiasm for this season.

I just haven't... That's not what I've been hearing. When I'm talking to a man, I'm I mean, I don't know what... Jessica and I mean like the season. I think it was Jessica, like the season the way that I have. But I'm also telling you that I'm grading it through the curve of the degree of difficulty, and here I would be talking about us, of trying to make something when people around you die or are sick. Because what has been clear in watching Curb your Enthusiasm for the last three years is that Richard Lewis is emaciated, like he's sickly.

Yeah, and that what was also clear is that he very much wanted to be a part of as that was happening to him because it was known. If you saw that most recent episode, we all probably said to our partner, he's looking rough there. But I think that they found great joy in wanting to do that as his time was winding down and share that with his friend. It was a beautiful thing. We making this about us.

They were making jokes about the will while arguing over the golf cart.

Yeah, that's the morbid humor that I love.