What's up? Good to see you.

Good to be back.

We had a full Texas day today, dude.

Yeah, full Texas doesn't get more Texas than that.

Shotguns, ate barbecue, went to the staccato range. How sick is that place, man?

Dude, I remember when I first went there, like, I called it the ghetto, because that's what there was nothing there.

Just dirt.

Just dirt. And they had some bays and stuff like that, too. And me and my videographer, we did some shooting out there, and we filmed, but it was, like, nothing like it is now. Now it looks like an entire little village. They're dumping guns.

Ton of money to that place.

Dude, when we were going around, he was showing us the whole property. I don't know if you saw my face. I was like, what the fuck?

I know it must be a lot of money in selling really good guns.

Yeah, to say the least.

Because, like, the lake, like, you guys have a lake. Why'd you build a lake? We're going to have a lake.

I'm not going to lie. There's something about water. Like, if I ever bought property, like, if I just get over this whole, like, I have to be in the city shit, I bought property, I'd want some body of water.

Explain to me the. I have to be in the city.

I'm just a city, like, always like it. Yeah, just the buz. And the energy of the city is something that it's in me. So it's like, I can still, like, every year, I'll go out to Utah and go and do all of the eat, love, pray shit. Yeah, I got to come back to the streets.

That's crazy. I like staying in cities. Like, when I stay in New York City, I'm there for a weekend, but by the time Sunday rolls around, like, all right, get me the fuck out of here. I don't like it. I've never liked it. Even when I lived in New York, I didn't live in the city. I lived in the suburbs, but that was because I couldn't afford it. I couldn't afford an apartment that had parking. Parking in New York City.

Oh, yeah, you're right.

And I have to do the road. I travel a lot to do stand up. I have to be able to drive to gigs. So I was driving in Connecticut and New Jersey and just to get a parking spot. I forget how much it cost back then. This is the 90s, but it was.

Out of my budget, honestly. I love cities. So anytime I go to city, if I travel to a different tour state, I've never been to before. I always want to stay in the city and I always go to their downtowns. New York is one of the places that I genuinely do not like. Really? No, I don't know what it is. I genuinely did not like it, which is weird because I like big cities, but for something about New York, I was just kind of like, man, really? I don't.

Dude, that doesn't make any sense because it's the most city.

City. I wish I could articulate feeling.

It's not interesting.

And it wasn't even like during a weird time. I didn't go like during COVID or anything. Like was. It was pretty normal time during COVID.

They made some weird law in New York City where you're allowed to eat outside, so they built indoor places outside. So they basically built. There were like little trailers that they set up outside and they put dining tables in and nice lighting and shit. Yeah. New York City drivers will have to pay $15 to ride through Manhattan. Yeah.

I did not know that you have.

To pay money to drive through the city.

Oh, this is new.

They're out of money.

Yeah, well, yeah, that's what happens when you make stupid politic decisions.

Yeah, you make terrible policy decisions and you say that you're a sanctuary city and then Texas goes, okay, great. It's kind of a gangster move by abbot. It's pretty gangster if you're dealing with the border and the border is where you are and everyone's like, we are a sanctuary. Like, oh, are you wonderful. I got an idea what is going on? Have you been paying attention to this standoff between Texas and the Biden administration in terms of the border? Like Texas has put up barbed wire and the Biden administration wants a barbed wire taken down.

I'll be honest and tell you, I haven't been following it super close, which is od because I'm Texas born and raised. And the weird thing is living in Dallas, you're almost still kind of disconnected from what's going on at the border a little bit because you're so far north.

Right.

But even in Houston, because, you know, I'm in Houston a lot too. It's not something that you're confronted with, but anybody from Texas usually at some point in time. At some point.

What was that?

At some point in time you're going to go towards the border and you're going to see it for yourself. But what I do know of it at this point, we're trying not to lose control of it. Essentially, from what I can gather what is happening? I don't know. Whose idea is it in terms of what.

Who's letting this happen? It seems very organized. These people know the borders open, so they know they could just walk through.

I think there's a lot of virtue signaling, I think, involved in all of the whole, like you talking about with New York saying we're a sanctuary city. Yes. We accept everyone to come in, just not our state, in our city. Right. And so I think you have that combined with the reality of what happens when you have a border that honestly is not being checked. Right. So if you have a situation where you have people who are able to just come in and leave as they. I wouldn't necessarily necessarily say leave, but coming into a state, and it's a choke point because a lot of it is coming in through Texas. So it's easy to have that philosophy of, oh, leave the border, don't make the border, get rid of the barbed wire, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, because we want to seem as if we are welcoming to everyone. And I don't think it's a matter of not wanting to be welcoming. I think it has a lot to do with the same reason why you have a front door with locks on it on your house.

Yeah.

Right. At least have a checkpoint to say, okay, well, if you want to come in, I need to know who I'm dealing with.

Well, do you see, they had this one guy that was on video that he said, you will see who I am soon. And then they found out he's on, like, some terrorist watch list or something like that.

Yeah.

Oh, terrific.

But that doesn't surprise me, though.

Well, it doesn't surprise me either, but it seems too convenient that it's happening with the numbers that it's happening at. It seems organized, and I would like to know, how is it getting to those people? Is anyone supplying them with resources? Is anyone telling them how to do it? Is this organized?

I think it is. Do I have any proof or data to back it up? No, it's a hunch. Just because it just doesn't really make sense. I don't think anybody who's honestly being honest with themselves. You're not going to be someone who says, you know what? I just want an open border where any and everyone can come in at will without anybody checking who's actually coming into the country.

No, it's insane.

It makes no sense.

It's insane that it's not the case if you fly in, which is nuts. So you're coming from some country. And if you want to emigrate to the United States, it's hard. You have to prove that you have some sort of exceptional skill. There's some reason for you to be here. You get a work visa. You have to apply for citizenship.

I mean, let's just keep it real. There are a lot of people who just don't like this country.

Yeah.

And they would love to get into the country and cause damage to the country any way they can. Yes. So I think for anyone to say that they are for open borders, at.

Least there's got to be a percentage of the people that are coming across that we don't want here. There has to be.

That's just reality.

Just reality. Yeah. As much as you want to be a kind person. Look, I am the grandchild of immigrants. None of my family came from America. They all came from Italy and Ireland. They all came over here.

Parents are immigrants.

Yeah. So it's like, we're not anti immigration, but it just seems like, God damn, you got to make sure you're not letting terrorists in. It seems so simple.

Yeah, but like I said, I think a lot of it has to do. I think there's some grandstanding and there's some virtue signaling going on as well. I think the administration, honestly is trying to walk that line of, no, we're so progressive, while at the same time honestly trying to stick it to Texas. Yeah, it's a dick swinging competition at this.

Why would you have a dick swinging competition about the border that seems so insane that you would want people to take down a barrier to entry?

You know what I think? What? I think it has a lot to do with, you know, when he was running his campaign, he was running a lot of it based on the idea he was going to build that wall and border. And so that became a separation point for a lot of people in the country with respect to what side they fell on. And I think there's a particular party in this country that utilized it as a lightning rod to create that level of division. And so I think they're kind of trying to reestablish that again, which is.

One of the things that's even more gangster about abbot sending people to Chicago.

Sending people to New York.

Because in Chicago, they're like, get these.

Fucking people out of here.

And the people that live in Chicago, the poor people of Chicago, like, this is bullshit. These people are getting. They're. They're getting all this help. They're getting food. They're getting all this stuff that we don't have, yeah.

People literally in the place who live.

There their whole lives, and then all of a sudden these people sneak in and they're getting this special treatment.

I think there's also a level of trying to pass the buck a little bit or kind of a mass distraction because when you look at these major cities and you see the conditions that a lot of these people are living in, in our own country, right. You start to ask yourself, okay, well, why are these conditions? Why do they exist? Right. And there are very particularized area in very particular places within this country. So it begs the question. It's like, why can't we fix this issue, right? They're talking about how we want to help these people. They want to come into the country because they're running away from a shitty life and in terrible environments. You mean the ones that are synonymous, the ones that we actually have in the country as well, but yet we haven't been able to address that issue.

Exactly.

Right.

Exactly.

But I think it's a way to kind of push that to the side and sweep it under the rug and say, no, it's a sexier problem to have when we're trying to deal with people coming from other countries and we want to help them because we're so noble and so brave. But I'm like, you haven't even taken care of what's going on in your own home.

And part of the reason why the place they are at sucks. The reason why they come over here is because of what we're doing to those countries.

They know that.

Yeah, there's part of that, too. I mean, it's part of like when we shipped all those fucking jobs overseas and these people are making pennies on the dollar to make goods that we can buy here slightly. I mean, we've destroyed unions and destroyed.

Know, I I'm not going to go so far as to say a little bit of that is our fault as well as consumers. Because when you do try to make stuff in America, right.

Yeah.

They're going to be more expensive. You know what? And so, and a lot of people aren't willing to pay that price hike in order to have stuff produced in America. So basically, companies become incentivized to then go and have these things created elsewhere because I've seen companies where they struggle because they're trying to make everything in that. But that comes with a price that a lot of people aren't willing to pay. Right. And so I wonder how much. It's kind of like with climate change, it's like how much of that is affecting a lot of the manufacturing and so forth going overseas?

Some of it is, but there's enough people that want to buy american made products from people that get paid a fair wage that if you advertise that.

And make that, a lot of people say they do.

Well, a lot of people do. Look at origin. Origin can't keep clothes on the shelves. Everything's flying off. Their boots, their clothes, their hunting gear. They can barely keep them in stock. Everybody wants it because it's 100% american.

You think that's the only reason why?

What do you think it is?

I don't know. I'm not that familiar with origin, honestly.

Well, origin is my friend Jocko's company, and I'm a part of it. And I know that what they're doing is very popular.

Got you.

And it's very popular because that's part of their mission statement. Bring back american manufacturing. Take pride in the fact that these things that you're wearing, these things that you purchase, things you use every day, is 100% american made. Everything down to the buttons, the threads, everything put together, all the cloth, everything sourced from America.

100%?

100%.

That's actually pretty damn the only thing.

They don't have from America. There's a part of a boot that you can only get in South America.

Gotcha.

So even that's America. It's just South America, but not United States. But that's one piece. And they eventually are planning on figuring out a way to manufacture that.

Is that where the name comes from, origin?

I don't know.

It fits.

It does fit. Yeah, it does fit. I don't know the origin of the name, but I feel like if you had an american made cell phone. I've been saying this forever. Give me a fucking iPhone that's made by people that aren't working for slave wages. Give me an iPhone that's not made in a factory where people have nets around the building to keep people from jumping off the roofs because they hate their lives. Give me a phone that is not that. You didn't get sourced the materials by slave labor in the Congo. Can you fucking do that? Is it possible to do that? Because if it is, how much more is it? $300 more. I'll pay $300 more for a phone that I know I don't have to feel like shit about.

I begs a question, though. You and I. Yeah, I would do it. I think enough people would, but I have the monetary ability to do it. I wonder how much of the people who aren't necessarily in the economic position to pay to them. That's considerable markup, right? Yeah. I wonder how much of that. I don't know. I wonder how much of that plays into a part of facilitating this kind of shipping on manufacturing everything overseas because they can build things cheaper and then people continue to buy it. So maybe I take a step back and I say, all right, maybe it's not just, oh, yeah, they say they want american but aren't willing to pay for it. Maybe some people, maybe a large part of people just can't. I don't know.

Large percentage of people probably can't. The people that are living check to check can't. But there's enough people that are not living check to check that would feel better about buying something. And maybe instead of buying an iPhone every year or a cell phone every year, buy one every other year, every two years, every three year, it's feasible.

It is very feasible. Now, granted, I'm guilty.

I got a fucking iPhone eleven. I keep. One of my phones is an iPhone eleven. The motherfucker works perfect.

Yeah, I'm literally the person you're talking about. I upgrade my phone on the day the new one comes out.

Me too.

To the minute 15.

I have no reason to have this fucking phone now. No reason.

And granted, I live and die by my. These phones do everything for me now.

Yeah, me too.

I have reached a point now where I'm kind of like, I don't want to upgrade, but for no other reason than I don't want to have to go through the update process. The changeover process is really annoying.

It is weird. Sometimes phone numbers get all fucked up. Something happened where phone numbers got attached in imessage to old emails of other people.

Yeah, I've had some really spooky stuff happen on my phones and I'm like, the hell's going on here? Like, I had a friend tell me, he's like, I called you and somebody else picked up. Yeah.

Is this your phone number? Yeah. I go, bro, a woman answered the phone.

That's exactly what happened to me. Yeah?

What's that?

I have no idea. I don't know. At the end of the day, we are talking about devices, right, that are essentially supercomputers in our hands. So maybe it's just a fault of the system. It's bound to happen where you get this kind of cross communication and it just can't keep up with it. I forgot who the comedian was. He's talking about how impatient we are these days because it was one of my favorite bits, because it's so true. He's like, we get these cell phones, and then the moment it stops working a little bit, we get pissed off. And it's like, it's sending message to fucking space.

Oh, that's Louis CK.

Louis CK, exactly. And so I was like, yeah, it's a very poignant point.

It's a very good point. Yeah. I mean, it's easy to get annoyed at technology when it doesn't suit your needs, but it's just.

You connect.

Yeah, the TRX. My TRX has this system. I love the truck.

It's awesome.

But that system is whack. You have one too, right? Yeah, you connect is whack.

I did a whole video on Instagram about it. It's the worst infotainment system I've ever experienced in a vehicle.

It sometimes just doesn't connect to Carplay.

It's possessed. I've literally driven 15 minutes and it has connected and disconnected five times.

Oh, yeah.

I'm like, this is. And then I step on the gas and I hear that wine.

Mine's at Hennessy right now. Yeah, they've replacing the screen or something. Something is wrong with the screen. It just shut off.

I want to take mine to Hennessy. I haven't done it yet. I want to get the unnecessary 1000.

1000 hp pickup truck. But the one that comes out of the factory 700.

Yeah. What is wrong with. It's not. But I mean America, right? America? Yeah.

You know how the Dodge demon is 1000? They're making a 1700 demon.

I thought it was going to be the last one.

No, Hennessy is.

Oh, Hennessy. Hennessy does shit like that.

What a psycho. Imagine getting a thousand horsepower, two door.

Car and going, it needs more power. But it's amazing how accustomed you get to speed. Yeah, it probably takes all in all with consistent driving. I'd say about three weeks before you're like, give you some more power.

That's the problem with Teslas. Yeah, that's the problem with Teslas. I know you like engines. You like the sound. But if you go from that fucking car, go from the plaid, the zero to 60 in 1.9 seconds, silently, like a fucking time traveling machine.

I think I feel disconnect. I think it freaked me out a little bit because without the sound and the noise, it's kind of like the.

Have you driven? Have you tried it?

I've driven a Tesla, not a plaid. But I've driven one of the earlier model Teslas. There are aspects to it. Like, I'm not anti electric. I'm just anti get rid of ice engines in order to bring in electric.

Right?

That's my issue. I want a choice.

Well, Toyota is not going that way. It's really interesting because they get a lot of pushback because of that. Toyota is embracing hybrids. They're like, this doesn't make any sense. You want range and hybrids. You get all the range of a regular vehicle, but you get a lot of fuel economy, so you get more range and you get also the option of extra power. And that's one of the things that Honda did with their last NSX, which was one of the most underappreciated supercars that's ever existed. That fucking glass NSX was a monster.

I, to the life cannot understand why it didn't do well.

Because it's an Acura.

Yeah, but everybody wets their pants over the older NSX.

Yeah, but only car dorks like us.

That's true.

Like, the average person does not wet their pants over an old NSX. What is this fucking old Honda?

We're so brand identifying.

People are so brand like. If you pull up in your Lamborghini, right, that sick Lamborghini that you have, that thing is like, God damn. If you're going to spend that kind of money, that's the response you want.

But it's still an Audi.

It is an Audi. Yeah, it is an Audi, kind of. But that makes it better because now.

It'S actually reliable, which is true. I think one of the best marriages between car manufacturers was Audi and Lamborghini. Yeah, because everybody knew Lamborghinis were just this unreliable but fantastically fun, beautiful pieces of shits. Right? And then you get the german engineering of Audi, and then you combine that with the flair and the pomp and circumstance that you get with the Italians, and it's just a beautiful marriage.

Lamborghini is like 10% too much douche. That's why.

I literally decided to get one just for that. It was something I said. I had some investments go well, and I was like, you know what?

Let's go. Let's swing it. Look at that intersection. That is also fucking amazing. It is.

But I also think they took too many parts because inherently, I think the silhouette is gorgeous. Right. But I still think there's a lot of it that screams Acura. I know that sounds counterintuitive because it is one, but I know what you're saying.

It's not quite exotic enough.

Exactly. At least for the price point. If they brought it and came in at a price point sub 100 they wouldn't have been able to keep them.

They're still selling the r eight. That's a fucking monster car, too. That's also a car that's not appreciated enough.

I am a little kind of indifferent about the r eight.

Really? Yeah.

I drove one once, and I couldn't help but feel like now, keep in mind, in all fairness, it was the early, like, first generation r eight. I haven't driven any of the newer generations.

My friend Everlast had one of the earlier ones. It was pretty dope, but that was back when it was new. Is this the newest one? The one I'm on is a 23. God damn, that thing's sick.

What is that?

That's the next one. Oh, it'll be fully electric after the r eight. Next supercar.

I don't know about this on fully electric shit. Now, you know what? I'm full of shit because there is one car I drove that I was like, I actually want this.

What's that?

The Tycan. Oh, yeah. I was like, okay. All right.

That's amazing.

Because it was still lacking on the sound aspect. However, what it did do, it still gave me all the driving dynamics that you were used to with Porsche.

Yes.

You get what I'm saying?

And the interior.

Exactly.

Yes. The driving dynamics.

I've driven one.

It's amazing.

My blood pressure just dropped the moment I got in the car.

Look at that thing. I mean, they just know how to do interiors.

They know how to do ergonomics without being overboard.

And you can also get the Jetson sound. What is the mission, e? Is that the two door one? Oh, shit. That looks like a four door to me.

Wait, maybe that was coming up with a two. Was that the concept for the original tie?

Can I believe they're coming out with a two door tie?

Can mission.

Okay, but the sound, you can get Jetson sounds. So when you hit the gas, the one I was in is like, I don't like that. Yeah, you say that until you drive. It sounds awesome.

I like my car to sound like they're farting everywhere they go.

Look at that electric sport sound off.

Yeah.

So it just takes off silently and then sound on. Come on, man.

That sounds amazing. All right, see the sound you made? And then that sound are two different things.

Right. That's my fault. Come on. That sounds insane. That sounds like you're in a goddamn spaceship. It's a different kind of sound. But even, like, the Porsche turbo doesn't have the best sound.

It doesn't, because I daily drive one and I love it.

It's so crazy.

I got rid of the GT three to get it, which is sacrilegious.

The difference in sound.

Yeah. Because the way that GT three wails, it's awe inspiring. Yeah.

It's part of the fun.

And I'm going to do a video on this when I start my second YouTube channel. I think the Porsche turbo s is the greatest daily driving supercar on the planet ever created.

And they have that marriage with Volkswagen.

Yes.

Which is also kind of similar.

They've always been Porsche.

They've done always been reliable in terms of, like, supercars. They're like the most reliable, most boring.

Supercars, but the greatest.

Well, not the GT three.

Okay. Yeah. I'm not factoring in those. I look at those as more like track weapons. Yeah.

But they're still willing to make a six speed GT three. And then the ST, which is the new one, that's six speed as well.

I like the sports classic.

Yeah, sports classic, too.

Yeah. Six speed with the Ducktail.

Yeah. They're still willing to make some driver centric cars, and there's a giant market for them like that GT three touring. They can't keep that in stock. Yeah.

Even though I think the GT three touring is kind of. Maybe because I like the wing of the original GT three. So the last thing I want is one without the wing. I'm like, if I'm going to do it without the wing, just give me a turbo.

Spoken like a true Lamborghini driver.

I mean, pretty much. Pretty much.

Yeah. There's a bunch of cars that just don't get what they deserve.

Yeah. I went down a rabit hole last night.

Well, I went down a rabbit hole last night with the Lexus LC 500.

See, you say that. I hear LFA.

LFA is amazing.

Yeah.

But there's people that are doing wild shit with the LC 500, where they're putting wide body kits on them and straight pipes and they sound insane.

Well, I think just because of the LFA. Because I think once the LFA didn't do as well as they expected it to do.

Yeah.

Because again, I think they just overpriced it because the market just wasn't ready for a fucking. What was it, like, $200,000? Well, now it is. Because now it's like.

But I think even out of the box, I think it was three.

Oh, it was like three.

Yeah.

See, for Lexus, that's still pushing it.

That's the thing. It's a label thing. Right. Like, if you want to pull up in a $300,000 car. It's going to be a Ferrari.

Exactly. It's how they got away with selling you urus.

Yeah. Look at udis. Look at that motherfucker.

Okay, that almost looks like an 812.

Look at that fucking thing. That's with the Y body kit on it. That's amazing.

That is pretty badass.

Yeah, but you can only get that up to, like, 550 hp with a lot of modification.

Are they turbo?

No, it's a v eight. But it sounds incredible.

Naturally aspirated.

Yes.

Okay.

Yeah, it sounds incredible.

And the interior.

The interior is insane.

Lexus has always done interior.

See if you can find a video of one with a wide body, because there's some awesome videos of them because there's a lot of people doing these now. Because they've been out for what, like, six, seven years now. Yeah, there's a lot of people doing wide body kits with them.

That's kind of a nasty setup.

That's a nasty looking car, man. But with the wide body setup, you're getting a wider stance. You're getting wider. Fat tires.

Not a fan of the wing.

The wings.

Wings are work.

Polarizing.

I think wings are 50 50. They either work or they don't.

I think it looks great on black cars.

Yes.

I think if you get it on the white car, it looks a little sus.

Yeah, it's a little too disjointed.

But I saw one that was matte black with a wing, and it looked fucking insane with the wide body kit. And then he had it set up with a remote control for the pipes. So you could have it even more silent than stock. You could have it like it is stock, or you could have straight pipes. Yeah.

I've never done aftermarket exhaust on any car I've ever owned.

Really?

No, I never get to it because all that happened, like, I'm a car horse.

So you swap them out?

Yes, by the time. But the thing is, I do a bunch of other stuff, right? Like, I'll tune them, I'll wrap them, I'll put all types of security features. I'll put that. All that crap. Radar detectors, blockers, all that nonsense. But then when it's time to get ready to do the aftermarket exhaust, I'm like, oh, what's that?

Some California fucking politician that was just trying to pass a bill to make it so you can't go more than 10 miles an hour over the speed limit in a car.

Yeah, he should be fired.

He's also one of the same guys that was a part of. There was this very controversial LBG. This guy. Is this it? California bill calls for tech to make new cars, unable to speed. Now, who is the guy? Who is the guy who's at the head of it? Yes, he would call that. But this guy is also the same guy that was pushing for some very controversial law about the. So there's a difference between what they're trying to. Yeah, Scott Weiner, he's kind of a freak. Scott Weiner's kind of a freak. There's pictures of him, like a dog Collar on.

The name is. I know who you're talking about.

Exactly. So that guy was also part of some very. That's him.

He looks like a skinnier version of Jerry from subway.

So he's got like a leather vest on with a tie with no shirt. It's a gay pride parade, which is.

Have a good time. Do you?

Who cares?

Have a good time. But you're pushing it with this. Over ten.

But he was a part of some very. There was a very controversial bill that people were trying to misinterpret, but it was about age of consent, and they were saying that age of consent, that there was some part about the way the law was structured that was discriminating against LBGT people.

Okay.

Yeah, that's what I thought. I was like, what are you trying to say? Apparently there's some discretion with age gaps when it comes to heterosexual couples. So say if a girl is 16 in California, she'd be underage and a boy is 18. What if they start dating when the boy was 17, the girl was 15, and then the guy turns 18, it's technically illegal. So if they go to go to a judge, a judge could say, listen, this is not a pedophile. This is a young couple. But if the guy's 40 and the girl is 16, now you got a real problem.

So that's interesting you say that, because I got into kind of a little bit of shit in my law school class when I was in law school one time where we were talking about statutory rape. So statutory rape is a strict liability crime, basically. There's no excuse for it. She can have a fake id, she can look 30 years old, give you all the signals that she's of age, and if she's underage, you're fucked regardless.

Right, right. Even if they lie.

Yeah. And I didn't think that was fair, personally. And there are very few people in my lawsuit class who agreed with me with respect to that. I understand the base, I understand the reasoning behind it. But, I mean, at that point, that person's life is done. Especially considering, if I've known of girls and women who have gone to great lengths to mask their age and to be deceptive about it and lie about it to people, and then if somebody succumbs to that now, not only do they go to jail, now they're a sex offender for the rest of their lives. Right.

Well, to your point, I have a friend and his sister's friends. They're in California. His sister's friends are 15. And he's got this giant issue because the 15 year old friends are using fake ids and going to LA clubs. They are fucking sophomores in high school and they're getting into LA clubs with fake ids.

And you wouldn't be able to tell just by.

You cannot tell when they've hit puberty and they're wearing makeup and they're wearing sexy clothes and they're going out, sorry to say, sexy, about 15. You know what I'm saying?

Aspect of understanding what sexy clothes look like that.

And if you're a guy and you don't know any better, that's crazy.

Yeah. And we're not even talking like they're 15 and they look 17.

Right?

They look like 25. Yeah.

You can be very deceptive as a young person if you're properly dressed and if you have good genetics. Yes.

At the same time, I still understand the basis behind the strict liability aspect of the law as well, because it's like you want to go above and beyond to protect the youth 100%. So at the time, I guess I didn't articulate it the right way.

Yeah.

All I was saying was like, that doesn't seem fair. I understand. It still does. I wish that there needs to be some type of discernment given with respect to the entire context of the situation.

Well, there's some wild, unfair laws in California, and one of them has to do with whether or not you are the father of a child. So I know a guy, and he unfortunately had a good friend who fucked his wife, and he did not know this was happening. And this good friend got his wife pregnant, and he raised that kid as his daughter. And he didn't know until after his friend was dead. His friend died. And then after his friend was dead, he was stuck paying child support until that kid was 18, no matter what. Even though he got a paternity test, he was like, something's going on. Got a paternity test, found out it was his friend's kid. Devastating. Right. Your friend's dead. He was your best friend. Now he's dead and you're raising his fucking kid, and you have to pay for it. So he tried to appeal. No, fuck you, you have to pay. But part of me is also like, listen, you don't have to be a biological father to love a child. And I have a stepdaughter, I love her like my daughter. If I was in that situation, I would want to still pay for that girl.

I wouldn't want to give any fucking money to that woman, though. So if you have to give that woman money and then she distributes it, that's where it gets weird, because it's up to their discretion.

When you pay child support, it goes straight to them.

It goes to the mom. The mom can buy shoes, she could go buy a purse. She doesn't have to do anything with the kid, especially if she has a job already. So the idea is you're compensating her for the fact that you have a child together, but it's up to her.

Discretion, if we're just going to be honest. Child support, by and large, it's a business relationship between the mother, most times between the mother and the state, because it's not like the child support office doesn't take a portion of the money that's being paid, right? So they're incentivized to have as many people on child support as possible, regardless of the context in the situation. So the state is not your friend in that respect. So understanding that, it just blows my mind that you can have a situation like that where he doesn't even have a choice in the matter, right? Because I know there'll be a good number of men who would say, you know what? I don't like it. I'm done fucking with you as far as the mother, but I still want to do what I can to help with the child. But when you put him in a position where he doesn't even have a choice in a matter, well, the dude.

That we're talking about was struggling too. My man was struggling. He was not, and he's gone too now, so I can talk about this. But he was struggling, he was not doing well. And he had a monthly nut that he was obligated to pay, and he tried to, his career was in the shitter, it wasn't going well, and he had monthly, he could get jailed easy. Everything's crazy about it. It was his friend. Everything's awful about it.

I'm laughing to avoid getting pissed.

I'll tell you who it is afterwards okay? Because it's going to blow your mind, but remind me.

Okay.

But the whole story behind it is so sad because the guy loved his friend, and then after the friend's dead, he finds out the friend fucked his wife and got her pregnant. And then he was raising that kid as his own. So much of it is awful.

Yeah. And then nothing. I don't know. I think the woman should be forced to. Should be forced to pay alimony to the husband in that situation.

I don't know. I don't know about alimony, but I.

Just think there should be some level of punishment as a result of it. If you're going to force him to pay child now, it's probably end up canceling itself out, right. Because it's kind of backwards. It's just me wanting some type of retribution for him, right? Because it's like she just gets away with this scot free. There's nothing.

She didn't just get away with it, she enforced it. She went to court for it after the fact. She went to court and won.

Come on.

I know. It's so awful. And meanwhile, this guy is living with the heartbreak of his friend's betrayal, his friend's death first, then his friend's betrayal, and then his wife's betrayal, and then the financial obligation that he has, that he can't afford. It gets even worse. In Canada, Dave Foley with my friend from news radio. When he was married, his wife and him got divorced when he was at the peak of his career. So he's making the most money he's ever going to make. He's on a sitcom. It's his sitcom. He's doing really well. And he had a certain amount that he had to pay. And in Canada, when his income dropped substantially, because you just can't have a fucking sitcom all the time. If you're lucky, you get one your whole life. The judge said to him, your ability to pay has no relationship to your obligation to pay. So this exorbitant amount of money that he was paying, because at one point in time he was doing really well, that is how much you have to figure out how to make forever.

Or what?

Or you go to jail. You see how he couldn't go to Canada?

Stupid. That is.

It's crazy. It's dumb.

So if the point of God, I'm blanking out here. If the point of child support is so that the child is supposed to be in the best interest of the child and making sure the child is provided for.

Yes.

Why would you then create the very circumstance that would inevitably end up ripping the father away. Not only just the father, but then also the money that could be going to the child, whether or not it's the actual amount you established beforehand or not. Right. Just lower the damn payments. If you have justification for determining, you know what? He can't make these payments anymore. Let's lower it to a payment he can make while still allowing the father to be in a child's life and have some type of money going in. Do that shit.

Yeah.

Like, just arbitrary idea that. No, we set a million dollars for you to pay every month to this child. You can't pay for it. We're going to throw you in jail because in the best interest of the child. Don't get me started on this joke. Don't get me started on this, Joe.

It's like, there's a lot of aspects of the law that were written in good faith. That child support is one of them.

Yeah.

If you're a father. Fuck yeah. You should pay for your kids 100%. But then when you get into situations like that. Wait a minute, how much? 100,000 a month.

You don't need that.

Whatever it is. That's crazy.

You don't need that.

Well, that's the weird thing about alimony as well. You have to maintain the lifestyle. So, like, someone becomes accustomed to a lifestyle. Like, say, if you're married to Bill Gates, if you get divorced from Bill. Say, if you're only married to Bill for a year or two, if you get, like, you're entitled to a large sum of money, unless there's some Sort of prenuptial agreement, which I'm sure there is, but if there's not, you're accustomed to a lifestyle. She's used to caviar and private jets now.

You know why I live in Texas, brother. It's a man state.

Well, it's a great state a lot of ways. And I was having the conversation with Ari today where I was trying to convince Ari to move here when we.

Were at the range. Wait, hold on. Was it really Ari's first time ever shooting?

I don't know if he shot guns before. I don't know.

Because I think I remember him saying that.

It seemed like it was his first.

Day at first, and then. You're fucked up, dude. If that's his first time shooting and the first time he shoots is with staccatos, you're fucked up.

Oh, yeah, I know. You're so spoiled. You're so spoiled that it's the smoothest shooting gun that's ever existed, if that's what you have. That's true. Yeah. Jamie's ruined. Jamie has a staccato.

You have? Really?

Yes.

Right.

I didn't get it yet.

Oh, you didn't get it yet? What are you doing, Jamie?

Oh, Jesus.

You got to get on it. I thought you got one.

We were going to. Okay, listen. What are you carrying?

Your little fanny pack. You can't see.

Yeah.

See, I carry cs. I'm carrying cs right now.

Cs is nice.

Yeah.

So small and so light. And it's amazing.

And it shoots so much bigger than.

What it actually is.

So flat.

And the recoil is so non existent. It's so smooth in the.

I love that dance.

When we went to the factory today. So we should tell everybody. We went to this Takado factory and we toured it for an hour and I didn't even know we're going tour the factory. I thought we were just going to go to the range. But they're so proud of their manufacturing process. They wanted to show. It's amazing how much effort is into each gun and how much engineering.

The enthusiasm they had for you today is the same enthusiasm when they were in that little tiny spot. Because I did the tour when they were at the older building, I did, too. Okay. Yeah.

I basically saw the same thing twice, but now I see the big version of it. Pretty fucking amazing.

It is.

It's amazing.

I really, genuinely love staccatos, apparently.

Well, I love engineering. I love when someone just does something to. The best they can do it. When they're explaining that it's 24 hours of work just to port one piece, and that they're literally down to the tolerances one third of the width of a human hair. Crazy. Anything more than that, they throw it away.

That's crazy. My brain can't even really fathom that shit.

And when you see all the computer controlled machinery and all this shit. Yeah. This is the manufacturer. This is the old one.

Yeah, that's old shop.

I think it's the old shop. What year is this video from?

Pull my video up. I did a video on it.

Yeah, I think the video, I think put Coley on the.

Cicado.

Okay.

Oh, no, go back. No. Type gt three. Because what I did is I drove from Dallas to Georgetown.

The XT.

There we go.

Well, you were just saying the XT is. That's my favorite, too. The XT is insane. It's so good. So that's when you went to. That's when it was just the beginning of they.

Yeah, because we drove down there with cs. No, that's the old place.

Oh, that's the old.

That's the old, like, looks exactly like the new place. I remember when I did. It was like two years ago. Two and a half years ago. A year ago. Okay. Yeah, but, yeah, no, I love the XC. When it came out, I think I was one of the first people to do a video on it. That's when I went and shot at their facility when it was still the ghetto. And I remember I was like, thank God for this because I love the shoot. For me, when I carry a firearm, comfort and shootability are major. Major. And I'm not saying other guns, I can't shoot. I shoot them well. But these 2011 just does such a great job of bringing out the best shooter in you. Right. Because people like to say that a high, expensive gun can't make you shoot better. I disagree.

Yeah, it's not true.

Yeah. I think whatever your skill level is with a non 2011, I think a 2011 will raise it in terms of shootability because they're so easy to shoot. I call them cheat codes.

Yeah, and with a red dot.

Exactly. You throw red dot on there and it's just game over.

Yeah, we're shooting those plates. It's just dink, dink, dink.

Exactly. So now think about a self defense situation. Think about how revved up you're going to be. Your adrenaline dumping. The last thing you need to be worried about are your shooting fundamentals.

Right.

You just want to feel comfortable and know I can do that with this gun to protect myself.

Yes.

And that's it. And call it a day.

Yeah.

And that's why I really love, love. So I carry it majority of the time, unless I can't because of what I'm wearing. Because I have a whole rotation of guns that I carry based on what I'm wearing. But by and large, if I'm going to go to something initially, it's going to go to that first, and then if I can't, then I'll go to something else.

Have you seen that concealed carry holster? It goes deep under your pants and you have, like, a leather strap, and you pull it up and raises up.

What do you think about that? I'm not a fan, so I've tried so many variations of different ways to carry. I've even done your way with the fanny pack deal. And I like that for when I'm running. Right. And I know I poke fun at it, but largely the reason why I don't like it day to day is because I don't really like having a lot of stuff on my waist. I like to just have one single thing, and especially if it's kind of big. So I like to minimize the footprint because I'm in sweats 90% of the time. Right. So with these sweats that I'm wearing right now, they're designed for that. And so I just take. I'd have my gun, have the belt, dump them in the pants, I'm good to go, and they're comfortable as shit.

Yeah.

And so for me, that's 99.9% of the way that I carry. Unless it's, like in a bag or something.

It's funny that this conversation is so normal with you and I, but if you have this conversation with people from California, they'll look at you like you're fucking insane. But you carry a gun. Yeah, well, it's also like, there's a reality. Here's one thing like constitutional carry. When my friends from California found out that constitutional carry was passed in Texas. So anyone can conceal carry as long as you're not a criminal. When they saw that, they're like, what, are you crazy? But wasn't that recently just passed in Ohio? And crime went down. Went down, yes.

Which is interesting because it's a counterintuitive logic. Right. Because if your starting point is if you make guns illegal, then nobody will have guns, then, yeah, I guess you could make the argument that if nobody.

Broke the law ever.

Right.

Including criminals.

Exactly.

What a fucking naive perspective.

But people think like that. Right.

But if you think you're going to rob anybody, and then now all of a sudden there's constitutional carry and anyone.

Can carry a gun on them, your job as a criminal has become substantially harder. Substantially, yeah, because criminals don't want to die either. Right. And criminals are largely looking for easy targets. Like, if you're going to go into the business of crime, you don't want it to be hard, because if you did, you would just get a normal job. Right. So from that perspective, if they don't know who's carrying, it makes your job substantially harder as a criminal to find actual victims. And not only that, and I just did a video recently where it's not even the person you're trying to rob or do something to. You have to worry about. You have to worry about the people who may see it. Because in this particular situation, it was at a gas station. Guy grows up on him, starts pistol whipped him, pistol whipping him. And the guy in another car saw it happen and started shooting at the guy. He didn't shoot. He killed him. And so now you have to start thinking, shit. I'm like, I got to find either a different place to go to, to start looking for victims, or I got to find a new career path.

I mean, it just is what it is. It's just logic. Now, I'm not saying all crime is going to go away. I'm not going to say. I'm not saying that.

But if everyone's heavily armed, you're way less likely. It sounds so.

It sounds counterintuitive.

It sounds. Not just counterintuitive, but it also sounds like anti progressive in terms of society and people being civilized. It sounds anti civilized.

Yeah, but everyone having a gun, what does that mean? Who said that pacifism was supposed to be the definition of civility?

Right. Well, that's also like, if you're not able to protect yourself, that doesn't make you a more virtuous person. It doesn't. And a virtuous person with a gun does not have different objectives. You're still the same person.

Exactly.

You're still a good person, but you also are protected. You have something that if the shit.

Hits the fan, that you can protect yourself. Now that's my perspective. I do think that there are a lot of people who are anti. It's a projection. I've seen this. And what the projection is is largely because inevitably, if you talk to them long enough, they'll tell you, I don't trust myself with a firearm. So why would I trust you?

Yeah, that's it. Right? They don't want other people to have guns. I've heard that before, by the way, those people, when the shit hit the fan in LA, those were people asking me for guns. I had friends asking me, can I borrow a gun?

Yeah. That don't surprise me at all.

I go, well, if you lived in Texas, I just give you one. I just give you a gun.

Exactly. But I can't because of the mean. It's easy to call it delusion, but that's essentially what it is. It is delusion. Right. And we have it, too. Live. We live in probably the best times that you could possibly live as a human on earth right now. Right, I agree. We've lived maybe like five years ago was better.

Yeah.

Okay. That's true.

Pre Covid, pre economy crash.

We live in relative.

Relative. I mean, on a curve. If you look at a graph of over the history of the mongol invasion.

Shit we were doing back then, I'm like, dude, I don't want to live in a different era. No, I don't want to live in different, like, I love the death. I'm an 80s boy. I would not want to live in the 80s. Fuck that.

Imagine driving those stupid cars. Oh, my.

They have personality, though. They have personality.

The fuck out of cars had personality, bro. If I lived in the 80s, I'd have a 1960s car, 100%. 1980s. I had a 1960s car, 100%.

I always talk myself out of getting one of those old school muscle cars every time I want one. But I always talk myself out of it, bro.

Drive one of mine next time. Next time you come into town, drive my Camaro. Yeah. What you want is a resto mod.

Okay, Jamie, pull up my rest of mod.

Pull up my 1969 Roadster shop Camaro. Let me see. Let you see this. Murdered out 1969 Camaro with 850.

Nice.

In a modern suspension, a big ass fat tire. Jeremy Gerber co owner that's my car. Oh, God. Volume, volume. Jesus. That's my car, dude.

That is literally how I would do it.

Yes, that's how you do it. Listen to that motherfucker. Wee.

Yeah. That is sexy.

And that car drives like a modern car. Like, that car has incredible brakes, incredible handling, six speed. Yes. What am I, a communist?

Stop it.

Come on, man. If you're going to get one of those cars, I mean, I don't hate one of those cars in an automatic, but I always like.

I mean, I get it. I think if I had. That is beautiful.

Yeah, man, you could drive one of these too. You love it.

Hre wheels.

Yes. Joy and fat tires.

Then again, this is cheating. I don't get any other color car but black. So you can usually make me happy if you murder anything else.

Don't make me pull up my 1970 silver barracuda because you'd change your tune on that.

Let me see that.

Okay, because I got another roadster shop car. Yeah, I have three roadster shop cars and one of them is a 1970 barracuda. This is my barracuda. Wait till you seat this motherfucker. Come on, son. Listen to this.

Is some rear resto machete.

That has a Mercury racing engine in it that goes to 9000 rpm. Yeah, it sounds like an exotic. Yeah.

Okay.

All right. Could you see it on the road? Let me see it driving. Give me some volume on this. Also, it has a Rear transaxle, so it's 50 50 weight distribution.

Oh, that sounds beautiful.

Don't tell me you wouldn't drive a silver car. Come on, bro.

I would just wrap it.

Well, it would look.

I would just wrap it black.

Listen, I love that car the way it is, but if that car was in matte black, it would be fucking sick. Matte black?

I'm not black. Everything.

Yeah, matte black.

I'm not black.

Everything is nice.

The only color I like.

Yeah, matte.

I do like white. I like white with black wheels.

Did you matte black your Lamborghini?

Not yet. It will.

Is it shiny right now?

It's shiny right now.

Still nice. Shiny.

I probably won't. I probably won't have it longer than a year.

Really? Yeah.

I mean, that's what I do. I get rid of it and that's, like, basically drove it for free and then get something else that's good, too.

So you don't experience the bullshit. Yeah.

I didn't realize that till I always think, like, cars were just kind of, like, all depreciating assets now. If you buy them. Right.

Not exotics.

Yeah, not exotics.

Yeah. You actually make money if you buy ferraris.

Look at that.

Is that yours?

Yeah, that's my turbo s. That's before I wrapped it. Black. Right now it's gloss black.

Yeah, but look at that thing.

My God. I just love the stance. The stance is so sad.

Well, it's also as fast as you can get. An internal combustion engine car. It's like, basically electric car speeds, but with superior handling. The way that thing handles, it's like it's a cheetah running up a tree.

But, like, I told you, how quickly we get used to. I'm already talking about tuning it. I want to tune. It's. No, it's did. The last time I came to Austin, I think it was like, on a day, you know, a recent freeze. Well, it was supposed to be a freeze.

Yeah.

And it didn't really happen the way everybody thought was going to happen wasn't like freezing Armageddon. So why did I come to Austin? I forgot. I came here for something. Oh, yeah. It was to look at the car. To look at the Lambo or whatever. And so I drove in the middle of the night, and I drove from Dallas to Austin, and I think I averaged speed wise, because there was no over the to.

You're going to get in trouble.

Prove it.

He's lying right now, so go ahead and lie.

All right. So let's just say I maintained a really exciting amount of speed that was within legal speed limits from Dallas to Austin in the most beautiful way possible. And it was what blew my mind and the beautiful thing about the turbos is even if it did start snowing or raining, whatever, it's all wheel drive. Yeah, but for, like, ice, right? Because nothing. I mean, ice is. Ice is nothing.

It's not so good with snow either, those fat tires.

True. But I still have all wheel drive, so I could.

Yeah. I'm worried about other people, especially people in Austin. When we had the freeze here two years ago, I was watching people slide around. I was like, you don't know what the fuck you're doing. As a kid who grew up in, like, I drove. I used to drive every day because I delivered newspapers. So I had to drive 365 days a year. So I know how to drive in snow. Like, I really know how to drive in snow.

Did I tell you my story about the first time I ever had to drive in snow?

Ice? No.

I never told you?

No.

Oh, boy. Okay. So this was back when I was with the NRA, right? And so the NRA had their agency of record, which was Ackermen or queen. And so I was working through them, and their main office is in. So a lot of times they would have us go down to Oklahoma City for meetings and stuff like that. And so out of Dallas office one time, I had like a 2000, I think it was 2010. Range rover, HSE, right, supercharged. So we drove down there. And Oklahoma, they get real winters.

Yeah.

Right. Not like Dallas. Dallas gets like, half real winters and the Houston gets fake winters. So we finished a meeting early, and he just didn't want to stay in Oklahoma City. Me and my coworker at the time, he and I were like, we don't want to stay here in Oklahoma City. We just want to get back to. So how far is the drive? About two and a half hours, 3 hours. Okay. So we were getting ready to get to checking out our hotel, and then we were getting ready to get back on the road. And then the lady's like, you know, they closed the freeway down. They, like, salting free or whatever. They closed whatever freeway down. So we're like, we're cool. We'll just take the back roads, thinking we were being smart. So we took the back road. You know, they don't salt the back roads.

Yeah.

And I'm like, I'm in a fucking Range Rover. I'll be right. So I'm in the rent Range Rover, and it's ice. It's not even snow. It's really ice. It's just like the whole roads are just sheets of ice, right? So I'm like, if I drive slow and careful. We'll be good. So we're driving. We're driving. And at a certain point, I realized it's probably not the smartest idea in the world, because now usually it's kind of like patch of ice. Regular road. Patch of ice, regular road. No, this was at a point now where it was like, straight ice. Remember, they don't salt the back roads.

Yeah.

So we're driving, and there's, like, this embankment. Yeah. And I'm like, as long as I go slow, I should be good. Keep in mind, I'm a novice at this. I've never driven in this type of condition ever in my life. Right. So I'm just thinking, I have a Range Rover for a drive, not realizing your tires are what matter at the time. And so at this point, we go on there, and I can feel the car kind of shake a little bit. And I'm like, okay, that's not good. So just slow down a little bit. It just keeps doing it. Keeps doing it. And then it snaps. Car starts spinning on the embankment. So now we're heading straight into the ditch. The truck is spinning, we're heading into the ditch, and we hit the ditch, and I come in backwards. You know those moments when shit happens and you just kind of have to sit there for a second to take it in and then figure out what the hell's going on? That's what happened. And in that time period, because in my mind, I'm like, how the fuck are we going to get out of this?

This isn't like something I can drive.

You got freeze to death out there.

Exactly. And so we're sitting in there, and I'm like, I don't know how we're going to get out of this. And before I could finish the thought and process it, I look to my right, and there's a big ass tractor coming down the road. And it was a guy who owned the farm who was basically sat there and saw what happened.

Oh, yeah. I thought he was.

No, he was coming to help us, to pull us out. So he comes over, and he's like, looks like you all are in a bit of a pickle. And I was like, yeah, something like that. He goes, ain't this fancy truck four wheel drive?

And I was like, four wheel drive with sport tires?

Exactly. He was just giving me shit. And so I was like, yeah. And he just started laughing. He's like, I'll have you out in five minutes. So he hooked us up, pulled us out. He's like, stay at the very top. Ride that, and you'd be good. So we did that. But the thing is, ice was still there, so that three hour trip took us 10 hours. Oh, my God. Literally, I think we did ten to 15 miles an hour the entire way.

Lucky you didn't run out of gas, too.

Exactly. And the funny thing is, when we got back into us, I dropped my coworker off at his place, and then as I was pulling up to my building, my brakes went out. Just died because I was riding them the entire way. Oh, wow. And so I guess they were just like, we're done when I tell you. They couldn't have gone out at a more perfect time. I pulled into my building, got into my parking spot, and as I was trying to pull into the parking spot, they just went out. Now, I had enough friction to get it to slow down because I was at a slower speed. But at that point, so basically, I had to use the handbrake.

Wow. See this video over a couple of days ago. Missouri. No.

Truck on icy hill.

Oh, no.

I did see this. Yeah.

Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Look at her smoking. Oh, my God. Just smashed a car, though. Luckily, that hit a car. It just hit this parked car. That blue car right there didn't hit anything else. It's a different angle. They got Lucky.

Yeah, very lucky. Look at that thing. Spilled. And there's nothing you can do.

Nothing. When I was a kid, I lived on a hill in Newton, Massachusetts, and me and my sister's boyfriend sat on the roof and watched people slide down our hill and crash. We called the cops. We said, hey, man, you should probably.

Close the street down, because there was.

Like five cars in a row. Spun out, bounced off the curb, went into ditches. We were just watching people try to come down the hill and just slide completely out of control, dude.

And you made a good point. Now I feel like with all the traveling I do, we've driven from Dallas to Utah to New Mexico. I've driven in ice, driven in snow. So I'm pretty comfortable with it now, even though I still don't really like it.

There's nothing you could do about ice, though.

There's nothing. But there's also what you pointed out was other people. So now that's what makes me nervous, because I'm like. I remember when we had the freeze apocalypse or whatever in Dallas. Yeah. I got in my truck and went out there and started kind of driving around because I kind of knew what I was doing. But I was always constantly looking in my rearview mirror because there's going to be some dumb ass who's going way too fast and doesn't realize that you can't stop at the same distance on ice patches. And they're going to just right into me. And so I was like, this isn't fun anymore. So I just went back in Austin.

They don't even have plows. But that's crazy. You should have a few. It seems like it happens.

Let me tell you, that Texas arrogance, 99% of the time, it's a great thing. There's that other 1% where it's like, all right, stop being stupid.

I think it's a funding issue.

Think so?

Yeah. They think they can't justify buying millions of dollars worth of snow plows for the city when it snows once every three years.

But, I mean, it's also a one time purchase. Maintenance and keep up. Can't be that expensive for a snow plow.

Well, I bet there were some conversations about it after the big Freeze a couple of years ago, but I have that Land cruiser. That thing was awesome during the.

I was loving. Do you have what it is?

1995.

What kind of tires do you have on it?

This is all terrain.

All terrain. Okay.

So they're great. You drive over anything in those fuckers?

Yeah, I saw it when you pulled in. I was like, yes, looks about right.

Yeah, that thing's hooked up. That was the truck that I bought. I had made when I was nervous about living in LA. I'm like, if something happens, like an earthquake, fire, flood, I want to be able to go over these hills. I don't want to be stuck on these roads. Because there was a road in northern California where there was a major fire and everyone on the road burned to death because the fire storm swept through the road and they were trapped in bumper to bumper traffic and they all got cooked.

No.

Yeah.

And that's another thing. That's another reason why I will always have a truck with that, that has off road capability.

Yeah, well, that's the TRX, right?

Yeah. Even though some people would argue that it's not an off road truck that.

Motherfucking go off road.

I know. I've driven it. I've taken mine off road. I have the scratches on that bitch to prove it.

They can go off road. Those things are capable. It is kind of like a raptor that is essentially a baja racing truck for the street, pretty much. They have amazing travel in terms of, like, you could bounce on things. You could go over giant bumps.

It's stupid, but it's the most giddy experience ever. You just sit in the. You. This is how you drive a TRX or raptor? That's how you drive? Yeah, the whole time.

The TRX does come from the factory with some fucking janky ass brakes, though.

Oh, no, don't get me started on that shit. That shit is a liability, bro.

Yeah, they're not good.

I changed them. I put the Wilcox on there. Was it Wilcox?

Yeah, I put the. Whatever Hennessy puts on.

Gotcha now. Brakes are phenomenal.

Yeah, mine too.

Phenomenal.

Big difference. But not good.

No. Anybody who has a TRX with standard, with the stock brakes on there, just understand your rolling liability.

Well, you have to realize, like, your stopping distance from 60 to zero is twice what a car.

And I learned that the hard way.

I don't know if it's twice, but whatever it is, it's definitely not like if you have a Tesla and you have to stop at 60 and then you have a TRX, you have to stop at 60. There's no way you're winning that competition.

It's not even close. Not even close. I remember when I.

Many car lengths, exactly. Many.

I had the truck for like a week and I drove to Houston. And I remember when I was in Houston, I forgot there's like this. I forgot the name of it. But there's a road where it's kind of windy. Not like sports car windy, but just kind of does things. And you can get up to speed. So I'm just driving to your ex and then out of nowhere I come around a corner and there's like eight cars sitting at the light and I'm like, oh, fuck. I never thought about how bad this thing is at stopping. And I remember standing on the brakes and then when you hear that and.

You'Re like, please stop, please stop, please stop, please stop.

And it did. But after that, a week later I got the brakes upgraded. I did a big brake hit on it and call it.

Well, I noticed a giant difference because I had a Hennessy Raptor before that, the regular raptor before the r was out, which is a great car. And then with great brakes, Hennessy upgrades the brakes too. And then I went to the standard TRx after that. I was like, oh my God, these brakes are dog shit. What is the stopping distance from 60 to zero on a stock TRX? Because I know they have to give you the stats on that. It's probably like barely what it should be and you'd be able to drive it 130ft. Okay, now what is the stopping distance from 60 to zero. In a Corvette Stingray. A 2023 Corvette Stingray.

Keep in mind that's with no weight.

No weight. Right. We don't have a backfill with cement or whatever the fuck you're carrying back there. Five people in the car. Yeah. 130ft. It's crazy.

93Ft.

Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Same for Viper. That is 911. Think about that. That's 130ft versus how much? 90ft.

Yeah, pretty much 93.

That's a giant difference. That's a giant difference.

They got to do something about those brakes and they have to do something about the fucking onboard security system because the way they're able to steal these trucks is insane.

Really?

What? Yeah, dude, they still wrap. They snap this. They steal anything Mopar. Anything Mopar. If you don't have a kill switch on it, if you don't have. Oh, man. If you don't have whatever the neutral thing is to stop them from being. Throw it in neutral. If you don't have a gps on it or apple airtack, your truck will be gone. I have dudes in my building who bought it. TRX went to dinner with their wives to come back out and their truck was gone. You can look it up online. They will steal these things in a second.

They're easy to steal.

They're easy as fuck to steal. It's insane.

Really interesting. Major vulnerability to steal Dodge ram trucks.

Fuck, yeah. They have the repeaters. They'll come outside your house and then boost the signal.

And that's crazy that they can do that. So that's the thing they do with these wires so they can find that you have a remote control inside and then they mirror the remote control, they boost the signal and then just start your car. Crazy.

They steal them like that. It's like clockwork.

Wow, that's not good.

No, it's not. Anything Mopar. Hellcats. TRX's trackhawks.

So much electronics in cars. Another thing that's freaking me out is that they're trying to put kill switches in all cars where if you're driving and the government wants to stop you, they'll just stop your car.

It's like that? Yeah, I like that. Some electrical shit.

Yeah. So sketchy.

I'm not for it, man.

Look, it's great if someone's stealing your car and you can call whatever it is onstar and say, hey, someone stole my car and they can shut your car off.

That's the thing about convenience, right? It's a gift and a curse. And then you're giving up something to gain something. When it comes to convenience. So it's like, how inconvenient do you want to live in order to have absolute autonomy versus massive amounts of convenience? But now you're kind of at the mercy of the government, more or less.

Yeah.

Or whatever corporation is providing that convenience.

Do you remember that story? There was a story about a journalist, and this journalist was writing a piece for Rolling Stone, and he went overseas and he was embedded with a troop, and it was in Afghanistan, I believe. And while they were over there, the volcano erupted in Iceland. So because of that, there was no flights for, like, two weeks. You couldn't fly out because they couldn't see. So until that volcanic dust settled, so they were stranded. So this Michael Hastings, is that what his name is? So this guy was around these people and they got a little comfortable with him and they started talking shit. And then he printed everything they were saying, talking shit, including this general, this beloved general who's talking shit about Obama. So this guy comes back and he's getting mad, death threats, and he's fucking terrified for his life. And he's saying, listen, if I fucking die, I did not kill myself. There's threats on my life. And his car was going down. Was it Libra? There's video of it. He had a brand new mercedes. This car was going down labrea at like 120 miles an hour, went straight into a tree and exploded.

And exploded in a crazy way where the engine ejected from the vehicle. Where they're like, this is indicative of an explosion. Like there's rigged. Like something was basically something.

That conspiracy forced the accelerator all the way down, had the car flying down.

Exactly. The conspiracy theory is that that's what happened. The problem is there's no way to know.

No.

And they also said that he tested positive for amphetamines.

Of course.

But the problem with that is journalists all take amphetamines. It is the dirty secret of journalists. I have friends that are journalists and they said that Adderall use is ubiquitous.

I mean, that's how I wasn't lost. I was apparently the only person in law school not on Adderall.

It's apparently amazing. I have not tried it, but everybody wants to be productive.

Says, jesus Christ, I know what coffee does. To me, coffee is just a minor form of fucking Adderall. If you ask.

It's the most minor.

Yeah. And I know what that does to. So if. If I ever took Adderall, I'd become superman.

Yeah.

And I would like that shit so much.

Exactly.

That I don't ever want to touch it.

My exact feelings. I don't want to try.

Yeah. Because I know I have ADHD.

My friend Duncan has a great bit about. I don't even know if that's real. My friend Duncan has a great bit about it. He goes, it's like a scientist did cocaine and went, I can fix this Adderall.

Okay, so you don't think ADHD. You don't know if ADHD is real? No, I don't know either. I haven't looked into it.

First of all, I think it's a superpower. I think if you have it, it's a superpower. And I think I most certainly have it if I have it. Look, I have an ability to focus on things that's very unusual. And it's obsessive focusing on things, and I use it to my advantage. It helps me get good at things, for sure. It's helped me in my career. Sure. It's helped me with martial arts, for sure. It's helped me with everything I do.

I think you're right. And I say that because I remember when I was in law school, and I remember I had a professor, Professor Moore. I don't know if she actually went through a second name, but whatever. Loved her, loved her to death. And I remember she was talking to me about me possibly having ADHD, whatever. And she was like, you don't think linearly, which makes you great at a lot of things, but then kind of hampers you like. I am not a standardized test taker. I'm not good at it.

Right. You're not good at things you don't want to do.

Bingo.

That's what it is.

If I'm not stimulated, right? I am miserable. I don't want to look at it. I'm like. I'm just.

By the way you align with most of my friends. Maybe that's why we're friends. I mean, I feel like most of my friends are kind of, like, fucking psycho about certain things that they love.

You start talking to me about cars. Yes. Start talking to me about guns. You start talking to me about the law. Law, anything like that. I actually have a passion. You can't stop me from being focused on it.

And you can rattle off information that's at your fingertips all the time because you store it. It's in a file in your brain. You just open that bitch up and it's there.

I always say I have a terrible memory, but I have great recall. You know what I mean?

That's good. I have a convenient memory.

Yeah.

My memory is really good. Like, it's stunningly good when it's things that I'm interested in, but if it's something that I don't give a fuck about, it's like I throw that right out for me. Goes out for me.

It's names. It's bad. Oh, it's bad.

The thing is, you're a public person, so you meet a lot of people.

Okay, I'm glad you said that, because I had thought that. And I'm like, no, you're just making excuses for yourself.

No, that's real.

I'm inundated with new names all constantly, and I'll forget names. I'm like, why am I forgetting people's names? And it's almost like it's just overflow. Like, there's names that will drop off, and then I'll be able to recall it, but then another name will drop.

Off, and then it's like, well, it's Dunbar's number. Do you know what that is?

No.

Dunbar's number is this principle that's based on the idea that we came from tribal societies. So all human beings came from groups of, like, 50 people, 150 people. And the idea is that there's a circle of people that are close to you that you're very close to, and whatever that number is, five to ten, whatever it is. And then there's a circle of people that you really like, but you don't see as much. And that's like 20 or 30. And then it gets further and further out to, like, acquaintances and people you barely know. So this is Dunbar's number. So five very close friends. And then it gets to close friends. It gets like 15 to 50. And then it gets to friends that you would invite them to a party. That's 150. Then it gets to acquaintances. It's 500 people who you remember how you met, and then it's 1500 people that you could put a name to a face. Now imagine how many people you meet compared to the average person that works in the same place, and he sees the same friend group and goes to the same church or whatever. You're around the same group of people all the time.

You don't have to remember that many names. You might meet over the course of ten years. There might be, like, 300 people that you interact with regularly. That's most folks.

I was just at shot show.

Right.

Okay. We're talking hundreds and hundreds of people in the course of three days.

There's no way. No, there's no way you're going to remember all those things. And people get mad at you. They get mad.

Especially women.

Yeah, well, people get mad if you don't remember the names. They get mad if you don't remember that you met them. It's like, I can't do it. You don't understand. My hard drive is full.

I can't.

There's no room in there.

It's nuts. Hell, even remembering the send messages that I was supposed to respond to sometimes.

Oh, yeah, no, it's impossible. Like, look at my phone. When you see how many messages that I haven't.

Let's compare, because I always do this. How many got. I usually win this battle. So right now, text messages. I have 1152 unopened text messages.

I have 175.

175. Dang.

Yeah.

Got you. Now, here's where it gets insane. My emails, okay. 440,124.

Whoa. I think you got me there. That's crazy.

Now, in all fairness, I have, like, five different emails attached to that.

But I have. Oh, wait a minute. I might have you maintenance there. I have 168,485.

Okay. Yeah, see, I've surpassed you.

Yeah, you got me beat on that. But I also have five email addresses.

I have 1234. Have four attached to this.

Yeah, it's crazy, man.

Yeah, it's pretty bad. It's pretty bad.

Very bad. But it's, like, the nature of being a public person. And I also have four phone numbers.

Yeah, I have two.

Yeah. And I have to change mine now. It's like, I've started getting text messages from people I don't know.

I'm this close to being at the point where you are, where I'm like, too many people have my number. Exactly. And so I've had this number for ages, and I'm like, yeah, it's kind.

Of a gross conversation for other people. Like, wow, what's your problem? What's the big deal? But it's unmanageable. You have to understand it's unmanageable. And when you're a person, like you or I, people are always looking for something from you. Like, all day long, it's, can you do this? Will you come to that?

And I have a very hard time saying no. I've started mastering it now, but it took a long time because I would feel guilty, because I feel blessed to be in a position that I'm in. So if I'm in a position to help, where I can help, I'm going to want to do it. But I started realizing I'm giving too much of myself. And what ends up happening is I start fucking myself, essentially.

Yeah. It's the pros and cons of connectivity. I think, ultimately, like we were saying before, it's the best time to be alive. The benefits way outweigh the negatives, but there's a lot of weirdness to it. And one of the things that we were talking about at lunch today was that there's this statistic now where they did this survey of these women, and they found that 50% of married women have a backup boyfriend. Meaning if this fucking husband falls apart, if he talks too much shit, if she gets tired of his bullshit, she has another guy that she's been in contact with that she can kind of get a hold of, and that guy could be the new boyfriend.

Yeah, I've been the backup.

I'm sure you have.

And then they realize that's a terrible fucking idea.

But it's like, 70% of women in relationships have this. Yeah, 70.

When I read the article, I'm like, oh, you all just found this out? I swear to God, I promise you. I've always known that, especially women on.

Social media who take thirst trap pictures, like, my God, it's a beautiful way.

The social media has provided a beautiful avenue to have a roster. So it's like, they have a bench. They have a starting five, and then they have a bench.

Right, exactly. And all. You had number one draft pick.

Exactly.

Every now and then. How you doing?

But they all serve a different role.

You're looking good.

They all serve a different role. He's nice. He listens to me wax poetic about nothing.

Guy he'll go out on a date with, even though I have no romantic.

Interest in him whatsoever.

Take me out of. Me and the husband are.

This guy makes me look really good, so I'll kind of bring him out. This guy has really good sex, so I'll call him over in the middle of. After I finished with the guy who takes me out.

50% of married women have a backup lover, so when I google this thing, like, 50% have a backup. This article pops up as a story every two or three years. Well, probably true. I know, but, I mean, maybe it doesn't have anything to do with social media or anything, because 2014, that's when.

Social media was really.

I know, but that's just. This is just the first page of searching. If I go back and check, like, 2009 would have say that, what if I would pick cosmopolitan articles from 2000?

But you got to remember, too, women are social creatures, so that's usually probably based on a survey. Generally speaking, I think it's a lot higher.

Now. Yeah, that's true. They wouldn't admit it, but probably a lot higher now because of social media, because of direct message.

I agree.

There's so much of that going around.

I tell my friends this all the time. Some of them are married. I'm still out here. And back in the day, you could only touch who you could actually touch right now. The games change. You can touch anyone. If a girl's like, oh, my God, she lives in central Kansas and she loves Michael B. Jordan.

Right.

Slide into. Then he may read it, he may not.

And if he goes to her page.

And she's, well, let's go. Hello, Sarah in central Kansas.

How's it going?

You get what I'm saying? So it's taken the game to a whole new level where it's like, you, everybody, and it goes both ways, too.

Sure.

The only difference is a guy reaching out to say some super famous actress is good luck. Yeah, exactly. Because there's like 900 of you doing the same thing.

Yeah. Not only that, it's like women don't want that. If a woman's a super famous actress, she don't want some random carpenter sliding into her dm shit.

I disagree 100,000%. Yeah. She likes the attention.

Okay. But she's not thinking of that as a guy that she's going to.

No, she happens to be in canada. No, not at all. You don't stand a chance in hell. Right. But to pick up her phone, it's.

Like another one that they like to.

Get that dopamine spike and then it's on to the next.

Yeah, it's wild. I mean, look, I'm complaining, but I like to look at it. Women put thirst traps on their instagram.

Look at that.

I like to look at it. So I'm not complaining in the sense I don't want you to stop doing it. I want you to do whatever you want to do. But I think psychologically, the temptation and also just knowing that you have that many suitors that are waiting in the wings, it makes arguments very different.

Yeah. One thing I always. I'm never going to apologize for being a man, ever. At the same time, if they have the access and the ability to do it, it is what it is.

Yeah. And also a woman's window of opportunity is smaller than a man's.

I'd say that much.

It just is. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, it's not fair if a woman has between the ages of whatever age of age where they're legal, till if they're really hot. And they work out a lot. Late 40s.

That's pushing it.

Yeah. And when women are single in their late 40s, guys are like, why is she single and she's in her late 40s?

Well, I think life is kind of cruel in a way, that they've created an inverse peak for men and women. Right. So when we were younger, nobody won us. Right. Nobody wanted. Yeah. Broke. Dude, you're in college. You got your little dorm room.

Right?

Because when I was in college, all the girls were dating. Either they were dating older dudes, they were dating the drug dealers, the ball players. I didn't judge them. I always told my friends, I was like, dude, you're boring. Right? I'm boring.

You have no resources.

I wake up, I go to class, and I come back home and come back home to my dorm room where you have a whole guy here who has his own. Has his own apartment, own house, own car, can fly you out, do all this stuff. Exactly.

Yeah.

The problem is, at a certain point, it flips. The best time of my life has started at 30. Right, right. 30. You can't tell me shit. You can't tell me shit.

Right.

Whereas when a woman starts hitting 30, which now she's had her fun, right. She's on boats, she's doing all that stuff. She's having a great time. Have at it. The problem is that switch flips, and now she's looking for something more serious, more stable. Unfortunately, when you're 30 and I'm 30 and I'm like, you can't tell me shit. And she's 30 and she's like, I'm ready to be in something serious, the lines start crossing in ways that aren't conducive to you. Get what I'm saying? So it's like, that's when you start kind of having these age gap relationships where you start having individuals. You start guys who are 30, 40 dating 24, 23 year olds.

Right.

Because it's like, well, I finally got to a point where I'm making money, I have the resources to do what I want and have fun. So now what I'm going to do is I'm going to start enjoying that life that I wanted when I was younger.

And so a lot of times they'll date women who aren't looking for serious boys.

Exactly.

Because they're looking to have fun as well.

Exactly.

So they're not putting pressure on you to have a family and settle down.

So that's taken those guys essentially off the market for the women who are now at a point where they're like, okay, I want something more steady, right? And so, like I said, life is just kind of cruel like that. So it creates this dynamic where it's like, now they're looking at, like, where are all the guys that are my age? Because they're not looking to date younger guys, and they're not looking to date super old guys either, whatever the hell that.

But, well, Jordan Peterson talks about this, too. There's also this disproportionate thing that happens where men who have resources and who are attractive, it's such a small percentage of the population, and those men have access to a much larger percentage of women. So the amount of men today that don't have girlfriends and haven't had sex in a long time, it's staggering. Staggering. You can call them incels. You can call them whatever you want. But unfortunate gentlemen, is what I like to call them.

And that is not good for society.

Not good. I mean, that's what's happening in China, right? China had that one child policy, which was like, when someone was saying, all these chinese men of military age are entering into this country, I'm like, okay, maybe they're a terror cell. That's the worst case scenario. Or maybe they're guys who are in China who are fucked. There's no girls there. And also, you're trapped in a communist society. You're trapped in a dictatorship.

But here's the irony behind that. There's also a segment of men in America who are like, I want to go abroad and find a.

Finding women with lower standards.

It's the weirdest thing. Well, I mean, lower standards are different. Environment.

Well, lower standards because I've been paying attention to these guys. Go down to Colombia and these ugly dudes go down to Colombia and get these bombass colombian chicks.

Now you got to make the distinction. There's a distinction there. There are some who kind of go in there. They're really, honestly going there to have fun.

Right?

And then there are some who are honestly kind of looking for something more traditional because these places tend to have more of a traditional structure.

Right.

So I think you kind of have to split that dynamic a little bit.

Yeah, there's a lot of variables, but.

At the same time, like you said, then there's guys from other countries, foreign countries want to come to America to get women. So it's so weird how you kind of have this crossing of the seas in order to get the same thing in different places. But I don't. Mom. My mom's hitting me up for grandbabies every other day. So I'm the last person to be talking to about this.

Are you ever going to do it?

I mean, if it happens, it happens.

So it's like you just have to find the right combination of woman circumstance. Yeah.

I mean, the thing is, I'm obsessed with my freedom, right. And it's to a fault, and I'm not against it.

But it's also served you well.

It has. And I guard it viciously.

Right. Because we've all seen men that got trapped. Hence my conversation about my friend earlier that has to pay child support.

Exactly. And I usually don't even talk about this because largely, when you do speak about it publicly, nobody ever tries to see that from your perspective.

Right.

It's just like, what are you doing?

Woman hater.

Yes, exactly.

You're a play misogyny.

You're a misand, which is fine. I've kind of built up walls that don't really, that doesn't really bother me. You can't really shame me that way. Largely because what I'm doing is I'm protecting my piece. Yeah.

And also, you've seen the other side of it. It's not like you don't know what the negative consequences are.

Definitely seen the other side.

Horrific relationships.

Yeah.

And I think it's hard to emasculated controlling. And there's another thing that happens in those controlling relationships that I was watching this conversation this woman who was a psychologist was having with this other podcaster. I forget who it was, but she was saying that essentially one of the problems that happens with women is that they have this desire to control their environment and control men. But then as soon as they control men, they stop being attracted to that man.

I never listen to what women say in terms of what they want.

Really? No, you always assume there's some.

No, I just watched actions. Because actions are there. Right. Because you got to remember, women live in a very socialized reality, right. When you think lone wolf, you don't think lone woman, you think lone man.

Right?

So they're conditioned, and I'm speaking general. Like, there was always exceptions, right. But generally speaking, they're social creatures, so they're going to say what they're supposed to say. Right. Because otherwise they're going to be judged. Because if a woman, you've asked a woman, what does she want? She was like, oh, I want a nice guy who's stable, who's sweet and so forth and so on. Because if she says no, I want the bad boy rocker who does whatever, people are going to judge her for that desire. Right. But then again, at the same time, she still actually may want both. Right. In many ways, think she can have both? Because remember that roster with all the different guys that serve different purposes?

The backup man.

Yeah. So there's that aspect to it that I think I understand it. I do. But I don't make decisions off of what. I won't make decisions off of it, because I understand what somebody does versus what they say can be two totally different things.

Yeah, well, that's a lawyer in you, too.

Very much so.

But there's another problem. And the other problem is media depictions of relationships. And that these media depictions of relationships are not based on actual relationships. They're based on playing to these desires that people have for this perfect thing.

Yeah. And I think it creates an unattainable standard, because what I've learned from my friends that I know who are married and are in good marriages, from what I can gage, shit's hard. It's not always fun. It isn't. And I think a lot of people look at relation and even just relationships in general. It's not an easy thing to do. You're talking about two different people. You're talking about people who are totally different. They may come together in some commonality, which is why they're attracted to each other. But you're still talking about two different personalities who have to come together and live with each other.

Right.

And so that's not an easy thing to do.

And it's also why people are attracted to each other. They're not attracted generally to the same type of personality. Generally.

Yeah. Which is absolutely true.

I think those media depictions of reality, they fuck us up in so many ways because people look to movies and songs, and they look to that as their model of what life should be, including other aspects of your life outside of relationships, like retirement. People have this idea, like, one day I'm going to retire, and I'm going to have a great. No, you're going to die earlier. You're going to be disinterested and unengaged, and you're not going to be stimulated, and you're going to fucking die.

That's funny you said that. Because, I'll be honest with you, I had that sometimes 99. All I do is work. You know that about that. I'm always working, which is why I think I'm also so passionate about the things that have nothing.

And also why you're so passionate about freedom, because you don't want anybody to get in the way of that.

Exactly. Yeah. And I always have this fantasy that I thought I would reach a point where I could just do nothing and I would do nothing and I would just enjoy the rest of my life doing nothing. The more I talk to people who are further along in their life than me, further along in their career than I, people who've retired, they all say the same thing, and it echoes the sentiment that you just said, the last thing you want to do is do nothing.

Yeah.

Because you will die early.

Yeah. You don't want to sit on the porch. I might want to sit on the porch for a few hours.

Yeah, exactly.

It's nice. It's nice to relax. I like watching tv occasionally sit down, and when I know that I've done a lot and I can just chill and watch some stupid shit on tv, I like it. I've figured out a way to enjoy that. But the idea of doing nothing, I may get to a certain point where I don't work anymore.

Yes.

But I will always be doing stuff. I'll always be bow hunting, always be working out, always be playing pool, always be following hobbies. I'll always be doing things that I'm interested in. But what I'm lucky about, and I think what you're lucky about as well, is that the things that we're interested in are also the things we do for a living.

And that's why I feel so blessed.

Oh, we're so lucky. We're so lucky. There's so many people out there. Set Thoreau quote that most men live lives of quiet desperation. And when you're doing what you actually enjoy doing, you are so much better off than someone who's insanely wealthy, who's miserable because they don't like what they're doing and they're just making money.

I like working for, like I said before, investments that I've made that have done really well. I like working for each and every dollar. You like creating good content, and I genuinely love it. Yeah. And it sucks sometimes, I'll be honest.

Sure. It's what's difficult.

Yeah. Barry, the pressure you put on yourself, it can be maddening, but it's also rewarding. Exactly. Yeah.

I mean, that's part of the journey of what makes things interesting and intriguing. And I think the way human beings evolved, we evolved trying to solve complex puzzles. And initially it was, how do I get food? How do I protect my village? How do I protect my family? How do I avoid plague and fucking predators and all these so people had to solve complex problems. So it's a natural human reward system that's built into the organism in order for this organism to survive. So this idea of like, complete sedentary lifestyle providing you any enjoyment is just fucking nonsense.

It really is. And the funny thing is, I want to say about a couple of months ago, I was flirting with burnout every other day, like straight up. And then I realized the reason I'm flirting with burnout is because the way I'm approaching it, I'm approaching it like I want to finish this so I can get to nothing. Instead of, I enjoy doing this. It's work, but this is what I'm doing, right. And I don't want to say no, I did that. Feelings, that kind of call it transient, but that feeling of burnout or almost flirting with burnout every other day essentially kind of went away because I just threw myself into what I was doing instead of looking at it as something I got to get done so I can get to nothing. Because what was happening was I would do something, finish it, and then there's something else, and then there's something else and I'm like, God, I just want to take a break. I just want to be able to take a break and just do nothing for like a month. But do I really?

No.

Because within three days, if that, exactly, I'm going to be like, what can I create?

Well, I enjoy vacations now, but I enjoy it as a time that I could spend with my family and we can hang out together and I can have twenty four, seven time with my kids. Because when my kids are in school, they're in school all day. They have friends, they have sports, they do, they have activities. It's hard to spend, like a lot of quality time when we go on vacation. If we go on vacation for a week, that's one week of just hanging out. And I try to get as many laughs in as many fun things to do, but it's sort of activity driven. We enjoy time together. We do stuff. The idea of just like Jordan Peterson talks about this as well. He talks about this imaginary thing that people have. One day you're going to be on the beach drinking margaritas, like staring at the sunrise.

You know what's funny about that?

Yeah.

When I have that fantasy in my brain, you want to know what I'm doing?

What?

I'm sitting on the beach drinking a margarita and have my computer and I'm working on script. Yeah. That to me is my fantasy. It's like, yeah, I don't like that. I want to be able to do what I want, but I just end up doing what you enjoy.

Well, a day or two of that is fine.

Yes. I'll spend a day and I'll binge watch a show for, like, a day.

Or two, and then you start feeling guilty. Yes. Well, that's a sign of someone who loves what they do. So it's like. It's not like what you're doing is something you actually enjoy. So getting away from it is not enjoyable.

Yeah, it's not. Really not.

That's the key to a happy life, is surround yourself with people that are very fun to be around, that you love, that you enjoy. You like seeing them succeed, you love spending time with them. You all have fun together. And then generally it's birds of a feather. So my friends, to a person, they all love what they do to a person, the people that I enjoy being around. And to me, when they do well and they're happy and they can tell me about this thing that they're doing and how excited they are. It makes me excited, and I want to do more stuff.

Yeah. People's passion for things is very infectious.

Very infectious.

Very infectious, man.

I love watching dudes make. Been the last few days I've been on this YouTube rabbit hole watching dudes make tables. I have zero desire to make a table, but I was watching these dudes make this fucking dope desk for this guy, and it was like, resin and wood, and they're putting it all together and had this cool design to it. I was like, damn, that's badass. And the passion that these guys had for making sure that all the joints fit perfectly together and sanding them down, it's all precise, and they're taking you through the process as a narrator, talking about how time consuming this is, but this is the way to do it. The end result is so worth it. And then they're standing there. When they delivered this desk, I'm like, damn, that's pretty dope.

No, it's freaking awesome. Yeah. You know, the funny thing is, I've started realizing I might be into decor more than I'm willing to admit to myself.

Really?

Yeah. Not so much like, I want to style houses or stuff like that, but I think that's why I like hotels so much. Like, I'm a hotel snob, right?

Like a dope hotel. When you go in there and you're like, you feel good.

Nothing makes me happy, man. And it's like, especially when you're traveling, because the process of traveling sucks. Traveling is fun. Process sucks, right? Mainly just the airport shit. But I love, even when I come here, when I come to Austin, I look forward to coming to Austin because I have hotels I really enjoy out here. Like, I stay at the proper, I stay at the Thompson. I love those places. I love those hotels.

Those are dope hotels.

And it does wonders just for even just revitalizing you and just kind of pulling out, because where I live now, I love where I live. I love it. But there's just something different about being in a hotel.

Yeah. Stylish bar, beautiful restaurant that you go to that's in the hotel.

I travel so much and spend so much time at hotel bars. I almost wanted to start a blog where I just talk about my experiences at hotel.

Not a bad idea. A lot of people love them. And then a cool lobby. It makes you excited about being there.

Exactly.

Yeah, it's a cool environment. Yeah. Someone's got, like, a really cool environment in their home that's conducive to creativity is Rick Rubin. I was watching this tour. Rick Rubin's a friend of mine, and he's fucking brilliant dude. I mean, just legendary producer.

Right.

But I'm familiar with him. He wrote this book on creativity. It's really good. It's really fascinating. But about what he does to foster creativity, and a lot of it is also environment. There's like a tour of Rick Rubin's Malibu home and studio. So he's got this house, and when you see his way is this house, but this is his most famous house. The shame. Yeah. So the way he has everything set up in his house, I don't know if this is what I saw. This is also, like ten years old.

I don't know.

Yeah, he's got a new one now. Yeah. This is a long time ago. Rick is kind of a wild man, but he sets things up so that they make him feel a certain way when he goes into rooms.

Remember how I told you I'm a city rat and I just love being in the city?

Yeah.

So I initially had more of kind of a traditional style house. Prior to that, I lived in a high rise, maybe this room. This is where the decor in me starts coming out. I'm like, I'm an appreciator of good decor, I guess, is the best way to put it.

Yeah. The way you set up your environment, like, the things that excite you when you're walking around, the things you see.

And that's the thing. Esthetics inspires me. They do beautiful things inspire me?

Art? Yeah. Obviously, when you see this studio and you walk around, I'm a big fan of art.

Yeah. And you know what the weird thing about me is? In my place now, there's maybe two things on the wall my house looks unlived in. And the reason is, is because I'm so specific. I can't tell you art wise, what I want. I have to see it. And when I see it, I know it. I won't be able to explain it. I know it. And it's not like super deep shit. Like recently I bought this big gigantic canvas of a top down view of a 930 Porsche turbo.

Right?

So you can see the hips kind of flare out a little bit and stuff like that. I saw it and I was just online. I was just at home just hanging out on a couch and I saw it and I was like that because it evoked a certain emotion in me that I'm like, when I look at that and I see that, that's going to inspire me to a degree. Right. I'm sounding very like hairy fairy, but nonetheless, it is what it is. The problem is I don't run across things visually or often enough where I'm like, okay, I want to put that in my home. And when I do, it's usually like something that somebody already has so there isn't another one. You get what I'm saying? And I will not just put anything up for the sake of just putting it up because I want to walk into my place and I want it to mean something to me when I see it.

Well, lack of things is also something true. Sometimes there's a lot of serenity in an empty room, which is like a couch and a table. There's something about that, too. And maybe one piece of art on the wall is better than five pieces of art or a wall filled with art.

That is true. Yeah, but there is something. But then there's also that mental playground when you do have. And I think that's what you have here.

Yeah.

Right. Because I walk in, it's like nothing. Every time I look, something looks different. Right. And it works. It's like this beautiful, controlled chaos that just works because it's chaotic but yet uniform, if that makes any sense.

Yeah, it's cultivated chaos.

Yeah. And I love it. And lighting. I'm big on lighting. So it's like everything here. I may be wrong about this, but I feel like everything here is designed to kind of low you, relax you.

Essentially. The idea is to make it comfortable but also stimulate conversation.

Exactly.

I want a lot of different weird shit on the table. Like this symbol.

And I've been looking at the back of the spine of the stick since.

This is actually a. How old was this again? This is a piece of moose bone that was taken out of the alaskan tundra. That's from the boneyard in Alaska.

How do you say moose, plural?

Moose.

Moose. Okay.

Yeah.

So moose and elk. Fucking beautiful creatures, man. You have to see them in person, right? You have to.

Yeah.

They are stunning in person. That's all I wanted to say. Because I did my elk hunt not too long ago, and I remember we came across twice, and when you come face to face with them in the wild.

Yeah.

It's just different.

It's amazing.

Yeah, they're beautiful, man.

Yeah.

They are absolutely stunning. And I've never seen a moose in person, but I can.

Bro, they don't even look real.

Really?

First time I saw one was in British Columbia, and the first time I saw it, I was like. It was like the scene in Jurassic park where Jeff Goldblum gets out of the jeep, and he's like, they're so big, they don't look real. They're so big, they don't look real.

Gotcha.

It's double the size of an elk.

Really?

Double.

Damn.

Double easy.

And I was blown away by how the word I'm looking for is so agile and light footed. Elk are. Because we stumbled on my hunt, we accidentally stumbled on one. He didn't know we were there. We didn't know he was there until we knew each other was there.

Right.

I've never seen anything move so fast through thick brush without making a sound.

Also with giant antlers, it made.

Joe.

Yeah.

I'm talking thick brush. Didn't make a sound when it took off.

Yeah.

I was like, what the fuck?

Yeah.

I was like, okay, this is real.

Designed for it. Yeah. And they're also designed to get away from predator. Look at the size of that moose. What does it say? I lived in London for most of my life, so I've never seen a real life moose. Look how much bigger it is in those cars, bro. They're so big, you can't believe they're real. And they're aggressive. Really, the difference between a moose and other animals is, like, if you see a deer, they'll run away from you.

Yeah.

See a moose, they might stomp you to death. If you're close enough. They don't like it, they'll come at you. Yeah. Because they're used to fighting off wolves.

They're stompers. Got you.

They're stompers.

Okay. You know, I saw elephant take on. What was it going? I think it was a rhino.

You saw it live?

No. Fuck no. I saw it on the Internet. Yeah. And I'm like. I've started to realize elephants are not.

To be messed with, not to be.

Fucked with at all.

No.

They seem kind of passive. They're not.

Well, they're passive if they don't need to be. That's aggressive. Here it is. Elephant fucks up this rhino. They're so much bigger. I mean, it's like a sumo wrestler versus high school fucking 134 pounder.

But when I first saw them face off, I thought the rhino was going to get the best one because of the long ass horn.

Nah, that horn ain't shit.

Clearly.

And that's also an elephant with small tusks.

Yeah, I know.

Which, by the way, the sad thing is, elephants, genetically, they're starting to have smaller and smaller tusks because of the evolutionary aspect of the fact that people want them for their tusks. So their tusks are actually growing smaller.

To be less desirable.

Yeah. Which is crazy that that's how evolution works. That it works over that small of a period of time.

That is kind of nutty. Yeah, that is actually really nutty.

There's a documentary that I watched from the BBC once on the Congo. And it's so fascinating because the Congo at one point in time was grasslands, and then a rainforest emerged as the climate shifted. And when the climate shifted, these savannah animals got trapped in this jungle. So you have, like, gazelles and antelope.

Inside of a jungle.

There's an antelope, I think it's called a diker, that swims underwater for, like, 100 yards and eats fish.

Antelope. Yeah.

Little tiny antelope swims underwater. They're evolving to swim underwater. There's fish that come out of the ground and they walk till they find the next water. So they're literally, like, evolving in front of our eyes. They're changing their behavior characteristics and then what's. Or is that a natural advantage?

Is that radioactive?

No. Yeah, that's in some places.

You know, another thing is beautiful to watch move in their environment. Snow leopards.

Oh, yeah. Isn't wild a cat that lives in the snow? Think of cats, you think of the jungle.

And then the funny thing is they call it a leopard, but I'm like, that thing is like a lion.

It's weird.

Not a lion, a tiger.

Yeah.

I was like, thing looks like a tiger.

Crazy big paws, like snowshoes so they can run through the snow easier.

And then watching them just chase the mountain goats all up and down the mountain and do it with such fluidity, it's insane to me.

I saw Lynx in Canada once in the wild. This wild looking thing, man, lynx are crazy looking. They just don't look like they belong there. And they make the nuttiest noises. They stand in front of each other and they scream at each other. They get face to face and they're screaming at each other. Yeah, there's videos of these links that are standing in front of each other. They get, like, real close to it here.

You know that's going to become a meme, right? Yeah, check it out.

Look at these guys.

Yeah, look.

They just scream at each other's faces. Then they just get real close to each other and they don't do anything. They're like, bitch, this is my spot. Who runs into this? Isn't that.

What?

Isn't that nuts?

You know what this reminds me of?

What? Okay, there's this. Look at their feet, man. Look at their feet. Don't get too close, bitch. I'll slap you. But they don't fight. Look, because they know that getting injured is so fucking pretty deadly.

It's a death sentence.

Yeah, you break your leg or you get your eye scratched out. That's it.

It reminds me of this video I saw on Instagram where it's, like, all these women at some retreat, and they're, like, moving crazy and screaming and, like.

On those women empowerment retreats. Yeah. I was like, what the fuck did I just watch? What the fuck?

And then I watched it again. And then I watched it again. I could take my eyes away from it.

That always seems like someone's got some scam running.

I'm going to show you how to be powerful.

You're just going to scream it to me.

It just demonstrates straight.

Imagine men doing that, getting together. I'm sure they do. I'm sure some male retreat, like, probably organized by a gay guy trying to fuck these dudes. They get up the guild altogether in the fucking jungle and just yell. We're going to yell. We're going to yell naked.

I think it's the most brutal demonstration of how good your life is, right?

You don't have to do that.

Yeah, that's the extent of your problem.

Yeah, but there's so many men out there that don't know how to be a man. They don't know what to do, and they feel lost and disconnected, and they wish they were something they're not. So those guys are, like, super susceptible to these, like, how to be a man.

Yeah. There's a fine line between what it is to be a man and then the caricature of what it is to be a man. Right. I was more or less raised by a single parent mother, but I know now as an adult, she overcompensated in a lot of ways because she knew she was having to raise a man. And the way she did it was she wasn't hard on me, brutally, but it was enough where she forced me to do things on my own. But then also what she did is she made sure that she had male influences in my life that I would take after. Now, at the time, I didn't understand what was going on. I'm like, how do you want me to go see Dr. Johnson? I don't want to go talk to Dr. Johnson. Right. And Dr. Johnson was this cardiologist who she would force me to go talk to and be around.

That's very wise of your mother, though.

Yeah, she's freaking phenomenal. I should be inherently fucked up flat out, but because of her, I'm not.

That's amazing. That's amazing that she was wise enough to see that and to recognize that and to act on it, because if you don't, it's too late, pretty much. You let that guy get to adulthood and you can't influence him, then it's very hard to take a fucked up grown adult and then turn him around.

And I think the beautiful thing I think I'm glad she didn't do with me that I've seen sometimes with single parents sometimes is she didn't baby me in a manner in which she understood her limitations as a woman. So she knew she had to have male influence to some degree. So she was very cautious about if my mom happened to be a ho, I would never know because she did such a phenomenal job in curating whoever it was that was going to be around me, that was a man, and that influence and how much that played a part in me growing up, because I think she understood I can only do so much as a woman to teach this guy how to be a man. And now when I think about things and how I compose and how I handle myself, I subconsciously think about those individuals who I interacted with, and that's what I pulled from growing up. And so I thank her for that, at least knowing her limitations from that standpoint and then figuring out a way to provide that example for me, it's very important.

I got very fortunate that when I was young, I got involved in martial arts when I was really young.

Same here. I did, too. I didn't continue with it to the degree that you did, but I definitely, and for me, martial arts turned into basketball. For me, that's what that was.

Well, it's anything that's difficult to do. Things are difficult where it's undeniable that the work you put in equals how much better you get, period. There's certain genetic advantages, but even with those genetic advantages, the more work you put in, the more results you will get. And there's other people with genetic advantages, too. And then when you're competing, then you're competing against a bunch of people that are driven and they have a much higher standard. And that's what athletics provides a lot of people under.

To this day, I pull from my experiences playing basketball because when I was younger, it's funny to say now because as an adult, you're not going to the NBA college, but nobody could tell me that I wasn't right. No one. And I worked like that's what I was going to do. I put in the effort, I put in the work. No one was going to outwork me for that. And because of it, all of the struggle, everything I did from that point to now, I still pull from that because it set a pattern of behavior in me. So all I did was when I realized your hoop dreams aren't happening, I just transferred that drive, that consistency, that discipline, and I just transferred over to what I was doing next. Right. I just continued to do that. Whatever I change, I switch up to and start doing next. That's what I put it into.

Yeah, that's what I was taught. I was taught when I was young that martial arts are a vehicle for developing your human potential. And if you could figure out how to get good at this, you can figure out how to get good at pretty much everything.

Yeah. I think that's the one thing I have a regret. I regret is not living longer in martial arts, because I think I have a brutal amount of respect for any individual who can perfect a craft in that space. I think fighters are some of the toughest people on the planet because, which.

Is by virtue of what they do.

They have to be. Exactly.

That is what they do. They do one of the toughest things to do. You're going against willingly going against a trained individual who has spent time preparing for you, literally. Yeah.

It's not like, oh, I'm out and about and I got caught off guard, and I can take advantage of the fact he doesn't know. This is like, I'm coming to kill you. Not literally, but I'm coming to kill you.

You got press conferences, you're talking shit to each other, getting all ramped up emotionally. That's also why it's so exciting to see, because you're seeing like, oh, my God, these guys have been getting ready for this forever. Here we go. When you see two dudes just looking at each other across the octagon, they're staring at each other, getting ready to go, fuck. Just the tension in the air is so crazy.

What's crazy is you can be on top of the world one, two, three fights in, and then in 2 seconds, just like that, everything comes crashing down.

Yeah.

And so then now you have to figure out how to pick those pieces back up, because there's very small room for, there's very little margin of error to come back from a loss.

And the crazy thing is, a lot of times, fighters are at the peak of their ability, and then they have one loss, and they fall off a cliff. That's like, Tony Ferguson is the greatest example of that. He was the scariest fucking guy in the 155 pound division until he wasn't, and then he loses to Justin Gaethje, and then he goes on, like, a seven fight losing streak. It's crazy, because for years, no one can touch him. For years, he was literally the boogeyman. Everyone was scared of that dude.

And the crazy thing is, with UFC fighting, there's no one way to be the best, right? Because there's so much going on in a fight that one lapse in focus, that split second lapse in focus.

Fight's done. Done right.

And you could be perfect in everything else, just like that.

That's Kamaru Usman and Leon Edwards. Kamaro's dominating for the whole fight, and then in the fifth round, with, like, a minute to go, gets head kicked into the shadow realm, and it's crazy. And then Kamaro loses the next fight, and then he loses the fight after that. So Kamaro is this, like, unbelievably dominant champion, and then just one head kick? Yeah, man. I mean, he's still on the Hunt. I mean, he could still come back. He had a really good fight in his last fight against Hamzat Chamayev, but he lost. And then here you are, three losses in a row.

What you do with that loss is everything. It's literally everything. And it's probably way harder than any fight that you've actually been in.

And then there's the reality of your body. Your body can only take so much of that before it just starts to fail. And Kamara, one of the things that I really admire about him, he's so open and honest about his injuries. His knees are so fucked up. He can't. Can't. He doesn't walk downstairs. He goes backwards downstairs.

You need to send him to Ben.

To Ben.

Knees over toes.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm sure that would help a little, but I'm sure he's probably doing that stuff. He has no cartilage in his knees. His knees are destroyed.

Gotcha.

I mean, they're destroyed. They're bone on bone. He's resigned himself to this thing that at one point, if you look at Kamaru's body, his upper body looks like a fucking superhero, but he has these small legs.

Gotcha.

His legs are so small compared to his upper body. And part of that is because his knees are destroyed.

Got you.

There's only so much he could do with his legs.

Funny thing is, like, I'm the opposite. My legs are too damn big. I hate them.

Dude, you hate your legs?

Too big?

What are you talking? Too big?

I have big legs. I have big calf. Always been like, ever since I was young. They used to call me calves because my calves are so big.

That's great genetics, man. You should have been a kickboxer. It's a giant advantage.

I mean, probably so, but a little too late now. It's not too late to was training. I was training at Fortis for a period of time.

Oh, were you really?

Yeah, me and safe are really good friends.

Oh, that's great. I love that, dude. I love that gym, too. That's a great gym.

Honestly, during COVID it was my refuge. Yeah, that gym was my refuge during. With some dark. I was going through some dark times. And that gym, hell.

Safe.

That gym was my refuge.

Shout out to safe. Saud. He's awesome. He's a great coach, too.

Yeah, no, he is fucking. Should I see him doing that gym?

He's so good in the corner. There's like a sign of a great coach is the way they give advice in between rounds. And that guy is precise. He's technical, he's motivating. He's intense. He lets you know exactly what the fuck. He's not going to sugarcoat shit.

It's not just the ring, bro. I'm sure when me and safe talk.

Yeah, we're talking. He's intense. But that's how you become a great coach. You understand things for what they really are, and this is what you have to do. And there's no if, ands, or buts about it.

You know, it's funny, we actually. I don't know if he wants me to tell this story, but. Sorry, bro. I mean, it's not that big a deal. But the way we met, I met him at a gun range. So I met him at a gun range, and then I figured it was a good time for me to get into fighting again, so I called him up. I was like, hey, I'm good with the gun stuff, but it means nothing if I can't work my hands, right. So I called him, went to the gym, kind of did the first. Showed me the lay of the land. And then he got a notification on his phone that his alarm was going off and somebody was breaking into his house. He was like. And we just met, but he knew who I was in the space that I'm in. And he was like, dude, something's going on at my house. I need to figure out what's going on. He's, like, going to roll with me.

Oh, shit.

Yeah. So we hop in. Hop in his truck, we drive to his house, and we cleared his house.

Oh, shit.

I don't know if you want to tell a story or if I did, I'm sorry, but, yeah. And then from there, we just became best friends. After that, it was like we went shooting together.

But dude is willing to come clear your house with you. That's a ride or die right there. That is the scariest situation ever. You don't know what's in your house. You go in, any room could be filled with a guy with a gun. You literally.

Literally don't. Now, was it the smartest thing to probably do? No, but I think it was one of those situations. You don't think. You just go, yeah, you just go. And I've done it in my house before where I've gotten home, and this is a little on a lower end of intensity, but sometimes that garage door is cracked open when you get back, and you're like, what the fuck? And you're like, I know I closed that door. And then it's like, all right, let's figure this out. Now I'm clearing my house.

Well, the reality of crime and the reality of violence is something that you can't just fucking bury your head in the sand about. It doesn't mean you have to be a violent person or a terrible person, and you're clearly not. You're a very nice guy, but you are very well trained. You know what to do with weapons. And if the shit hits the fan one day, that will serve you well.

Yeah, God forbid that ever happened. Look, I carry a gun every single day as long as I can, legally.

Praying that you never have to use it.

Praying. If I ever have to use my gun in self defense, I'm going to have to get therapy.

Yes, period.

Right?

Probably.

But that's just it. I don't want to have to, exactly, but I much more don't want to find myself in a situation where I have to. But I can't do anything about it because I don't have the thing I need.

You can't protect someone you love, which is even more, even worse. You watch something happen, there's nothing you could do about it. Kind of unrelated, but did you see this fucking thing that happened in California where this woman stabbed her boyfriend 108 times and they let her go with community service? They said that she was psychotic from smoking marijuana, which is.

I don't smoke, by the way.

I've been smoking a long time. I never thought about stabbing one person. Ever forget about someone that you're in a relationship with 108 times. The judge said that the defense was that she had a psychotic break from. I think it was one hit.

So I had a bad panic attack from one hit? Yeah.

You can have a panic attack with some strong, especially if you're not a regular Smoker.

No, I wasn't.

Was it a bong hit or a joint?

It was a joint. What it was was. It was my first time actually inhaling.

You went Bill Clinton the way before.

No, seriously. And all I remember, I couldn't stop coughing, not realizing each cough is just sending more Thc into my system. And that was the real, like, that was me really smoking for the first time. And let's just say, all I remember, I'm sitting on a couch having a massive panic attack, watching Eddie Murphy raw. And how I knew I was fucked up was I've watched raw multiple times and never have I not laughed my ass off. And I remember sitting there watching out and I was like, this is not funny. I was like, oh, dude, something's wrong with you, dude.

You were just freaking out. Yeah, you can freak out, man. Yeah. So this is the story that just said that this New York postage, that was just really strong weed. 30% weed ever. Whatever. One hit, she stabbed her boyfriend 108 times. I don't care if she took 18 bong hits and herself and the dog.

What?

Well, maybe there's something wrong with her and she shouldn't get fucking community service. That's insane. She stabbed her dog and then stabbed herself repeatedly after deputies were called to their apartment. Okay, after the. I mean, first of all, when people kill people, they often kill themselves. This happens to men who kill their girlfriends or their ex girlfriends. Oftentimes they'll shoot themselves. It happens all the time.

She found out he was cheating.

Well, whatever it was, the whole thing is she received just two years of probation, 100 hours of community service, and no prison time.

I would believe that more if it was alcohol.

Even alcohol doesn't make any.

But that's what I'm saying.

It would have to be like crystal meth mixed with fucking angel dust. Yeah. The lawyers were asked to describe the difference in her case and a fatal drunken driving crash, which Goldstein chalked up to awareness, noting that, I don't know how you say her name, whatever her last name is, did not know what she was getting herself into as Omelia provided the pot but did not show her the warning on the label. What? As far as the DUI is concerned, that person knowingly and consciously drinks to excess and decides to get behind the wheel of a car. In Mrs. Whatever her name is case, she took a hit of what she believed to be a legal consumer product in the sanctity of Mr. Omelia's home as they sat on his couch with no plans to go drive home later that evening. 43 times in her neck. She stabbed herself. She stabbed herself 43 times in the neck. Oh, my God. Well, that's the marks on her neck. She really tried that hard. Well, listen, people try to kill themselves after they kill somebody. Look, if you're lying there and your boyfriend has got 108 stab wounds, and you're like, oh, my God, my life is over.

I'm going to jail for the rest of my life.

But why the dog?

Because she's fucking just an angry lady.

I think she just had a psychotic break, and I don't think it was the week.

Who knows?

I think she found out something she did not want to find out.

It could be snapped, but it might not be that. I mean, she might be fucking legitimately crazy, but either way, 2 hours or 100 hours of community service and two years of probation is fucking nuts. You just killed somebody. Imagine the roles reversed. Imagine it was a man who stabbed his wife or his girlfriend 108 times under the jail. He'd be under the jail death sentence. Experts for both the defense and the prosecution concluded the pot she smoked caused her to slip into a psychotic state. Now, here's the story. You can have psychotic breaks from marijuana. It is possible. It's possible to have schizophrenic breaks from marijuana. It's well documented with certain people that have pre. Yes, but either way, it doesn't make any sense. Marijuana is not a violent drug. It's not the kind of drug that makes you want to hurt somebody.

And keep in mind, this is coming from somebody who does not like marijuana at all.

I don't believe that it sounds insane. I don't believe that it sounds. There's probably a lot more to that story.

Yeah, very much so. Very much so.

She stabbed herself in the neck.

That's crazy.

Deputies used a stun gun on her four times, and another deputy hit her with the metal baton multiple times before knocking the knife out of her hand while she was stabbing herself. Or him, I guess. Herself. I just didn't say who she was. But she might have started stabbing herself when the cop showed up too. Like, who knows? Yeah, I mean, the whole thing is nuts.

But then again, I watched a video on the way up here. I didn't watch it. I was listening to it while I was driving on the way up here. And it was this girl, I guess she was drunk or something, and the cops were trying to arrest her, and she completely lost it. I mean, screaming at the top of her lungs, complete psychotic breakdown just to avoid accountability of the fact that she was driving drunk.

There's some people that are out of their fucking minds, but I just don't think two years of probation is enough for them.

No, I think that goes without saying.

It sounds so insane that the judge said that.

Yeah. I want to see the judge. I want to talk to the judge. Hold on too.

They were only dating for three weeks. Oh, my God. So even if he cheated on her.

That wouldn't warrant that.

Each other for about three weeks. Wow. She worked as an audiologist. What is that sound? And the dude was an accountant. Maybe she stabbed him because he's boring. It's a horrible tragedy all the way around. Swartz said it's a tragedy for the victim, his family. It's a tragedy for my client and her family. Yeah, well, it's certainly a tragedy, but high potency marijuana should put you in a place where you're terrified of everything.

Exactly.

Not that you have the ability to grab a knife and stab a guy 108 times. That sounds nuts. That sounds so nuts. Said in September they'd got the murder charge dropped to involuntary manslaughter after it was determined she lost her cognitive abilities because she was in the throes of psychosis. Yeah, maybe, but I mean, I just don't think that absolves you of know. The thing about it is, there's no way to know what was going on in her head, which is the. You know, a friend of mine sent me a video. Tim Dillon sent me this video of these schizophrenics in downtown LA. It's so crazy. There's so many of them. And all these different people are walking on the street, just screaming at people who aren't there and just yelling into the sky.

I had my old place in Dallas. I had a guy call him Richie. I don't really know his name. I just call him that because he likes to stand outside my door and just have loud conversations with himself. It wasn't all the time, but it'd be like once every, like three or four months, and he would just be standing. I don't know why he picked my door to do it. I don't know. I never engaged with them or interacted with them. I would just hear my dunkin window. I'm like, there goes Richie.

But the mind is so weird. It is just the fact that a human being, forget about under the state of marijuana, PCP, whatever. Just the fact that there's something. If you've never stabbed any before, anyone before, there's something that someone can give.

You that makes you.

That can motivate you to do that. Where you've never done that before, you never stabbed anybody, and then all of a sudden, you stab some guy you've been dating 108 times. The mind is just so weird. We were talking today, earlier, while we're at the range, about Instagram and about the shit you see on Instagram these days. And we were talking about how when we were kids, faces of death was the wildest thing we'd ever seen. And it was nothing compared to what.

You see on Instagram. Nothing. You can go on Instagram and see 150. You know I'm about to get in my soapbox, right?

Yeah.

You can go Instagram and watch 1150,000,000 people get stabbed, shot, killed, thrown off buildings, and it'll show up on your Explorer page, right? I post a picture of a gun, I'm throttled. I don't show up on explore page.

Gun on my explore page.

I don't even call it shadow banning anymore. They tell you they're doing it. I even not post guns. This is the responsible way to handle a firearm. Throttled. Yeah, throttled like, it's insane on Instagram. What Instagram is doing to the gun community is monumentally insane. So you know what the fucked up part about it is? Because of the way they are about that. The only representation of firearms that you're going to get exposed to, generally speaking, if you're not already following them, are the negative representations of firearms or the unsafe way to handle a firearm, because those are making it. But the shit that we post, the responsible shit that doesn't.

Bro, how many videos have you seen of dudes in, like, traditional arab attire shooting the guns off in the air, and then they accidentally shoot their friend?

Dude, there's so many. Do you see way more of those?

Dancing, bang. Dude gets it in the head.

You want to know how I've seen.

So many of those?

You want to know how I learned gun safety when I got into guns?

Sure.

Fucking YouTube. Because there were so many examples of people when I started, when I got into guns and I got into gun community, there were so many people who were iterating over and over and over again. Check your gun. Make sure it's clear. Never pointed at something you're not willing to destroy. Guns are always loaded at all times, no matter what. It became ingrained in my brain. They almost shamed you into gun safety.

Well, one of the things today was a very good representation of that. Everyone today had responsible gun safety habits. Everyone today, everyone was pointing the gun at the ground. Everyone's clearing the gun. No one ever pointed a gun in the direction of someone. People were constantly checking, even after they cleared the gun.

There were literally probably 25 guns out there. Yeah, and magazines all over the place.

All over the place.

But like I said. But it's establishing that safety dynamic. They talk about a man, I'm getting on my soapbox.

Get on.

They talk about the other side, talks about this idea of gun safety, firearm safety. And the way they go about doing it is by blocking off all the people who are teaching the safe way to handle a firearm. I don't understand this. If you want to have a population, there are 400 million guns in this country. The guns aren't going anywhere. So if you want to minimize the number of kids who accidentally shoot themselves, if you want to minimize the number of adults who handle firearms incorrectly, end up accidentally shooting someone, what you need to do is allow the information of how to safely handle a firearm be spread to the public so that they understand it. It works, because that's how I learned it. No one came to me and said, this is the safe way to do it. I went online. I was learning about firearms, and I learned from the people who are handling them responsibly, how to responsibly handle a firearm. And as a result, I started creating videos, and I started teaching people how to responsibly handle firearms. And then those people will start making their own videos and teaching people how to responsibly handle firearms.

But instead, what we're getting with the dynamic of social media nowadays is they are trying to shut down all the people who are demonstrating how to handle a firearm responsibly or even just talking about the law aspect of it. So do you want people running around out there who don't understand the legal aspect of owning a firearm or when you actually decide to carry a firearm? When is a good time not to shoot? When is a good time to shoot? No. Instead, they shadow ban and block all of our content and only leave the negative representation out there and then wonder why all of these accidental shootings continue.

To happen and the negative ones find their way into my feed all the time from people that I don't follow exactly. So they must know what they like. We were talking about today about that thing that you click on that says, do you still want to watch this? This could be disturbed. So they know.

They know about it.

They know. I watched the guy get cut in half by a train today. They were fucking around on the train station. The guy pushes his friend, and the train comes. And his friend goes in between the train and the crack and gets ripped apart. The guys grab his arms, they pull him, and it's just guts out of a torso, and everyone's screaming. It's horrible. And it just showed up on my feed.

Yep. I see it all the time.

So if they have that warning, they must know what that I don't. Not on TikTok.

They banned me. But they banned you just for showing guns. Wow. Just for showing guns.

Does TikTok show violence? Do they have that kind of violence?

I don't know, honestly. Because you're bad. The fucked up thing about it is this. When I started the TikTok page, and you remember TikTok is a younger audience.

What's it skewed towards?

It's skewed to teens.

Teens, yeah.

But the thing about it is I can go on TikTok and watch girls engaged in sex and suggestive sexual behavior all day long on TikTok. Right. But anything with a firearm, regardless whether it's safe or mean, they just banned me, just flat out, and I'm like, what did I do exactly here?

Is that anyone on TikTok that chose firearms, or is it. Everyone gets banned?

I'm assuming so. I don't know, because I can't peruse it and figure out what else is on there. Because even when you call it. I tried to appeal this decision, and then it just reaffirmed it. And so it's one of those things that's very frustrating. The funny thing is, like x, which I know you don't like it being called x, but x don't have that problem.

Well, they let porn.

Yeah, there's that. That's the wild west over there. Freedom of speech.

I mean, listen, I'm not against it. You do whatever you want. I like the Internet. I like the actual Internet. I like people being able to show what they're interested in. As long as you're not victimizing someone, as long as you're not doxxing people, threatening, all that stuff. But other than the things that are illegal and should be, you should be able to show whatever the fuck you want. If there's an active gun community, and especially someone like you, that promotes responsible gun use and shows people how to handle things correctly, it says you can on TikTok. This is their policy on guns. They do not allow the trade of firearms or explosive weapons or content showing or promoting them if they are not used in a safe or appropriate setting.

What does that mean? What does that mean?

TikTok can be a place that educates people on the responsible use and ownership of weapons.

No, they do.

That's not true.

No, that's not true.

Because everything you do is responsible. I've seen 50 of your fucking videos. I've never seen one irresponsible video.

It's insane.

Firearms and explosive weapons can cause severe injury or death, especially when used in an unsafe manner. Exactly. But what you are saying is so important to hear that if you don't see the responsible use of it from someone who knows how to do it and also knows how to teach people, that, is that message going to get out there? That's how people learn how to use them correctly.

But here we are. Irony is at least, like, YouTube has its problems, but they're getting better with it. At least YouTube will guide you on. Okay, this is what we're okay with, and this is what we're not okay with. And then even if they get it wrong, they'll fix it.

So does YouTube demonetize any of your videos?

Yeah, all the time.

All the time.

Now I can appeal it, right? And submit it for a manual review. And then sometimes I have two videos right now that are under manual review. And sometimes they're like, yeah. Sometimes they're like, no.

And what is their objection to what's in those videos?

It's all over the place, honestly. It can be like display of extreme violence, right? So I have a series called defensive gun use, where I talk about stories where people who concealed carry use guns to defend their lives, right. Because one of the narratives from the other side is that not that many people use guns in self defense when we all know that's absolutely not true. So what I've started doing was aggregating a lot of those stories and talking about them. And in whatever context or angle, I have to talk about whatever aspect. Like, for instance, there was a guy at the gas station recently who shot the robber who robbed another guy at gunpoint, right? And so I'll talk about it from that standpoint with Texas. Texas, you can defend a third party's property with lethal force under certain contexts. Right. And so I go and explain those contexts. The point of me doing that. And then in the same video, I said, but be careful not only in the defense of third party's property, but also in defending third parties. Make sure if you're going to do something like that, you truly understand the context of what's happening, because you may think somebody is the aggressor when in reality they're the victim.

Right. So if you're going to do that, you need to be absolutely positive. You know who the aggressor.

If you stumble upon someone who's beaten someone's.

Exactly.

That person might have attacked that person.

Exactly.

And that person might know how to fight. Now they've got the guy on the ground, they're pounding on them, and then you shoot them.

Shoot them, exactly. And a lot of people don't think about those things, not because they're stupid, but because they just may be new to carrying a firearm and they don't understand that could be a context that they find themselves in.

Well, that's context of arguments, too. You can stumble into an argument in the middle of someone screaming at someone. You're like, hey, man, fuck you. But you don't know what happened before that.

Don't. But for us, being able to have those type of conversations in a safe place, like online beforehand, now, when somebody who watches a video like that, they can watch the video, and then they go out and they go, oh, I remember when so and so did a video on this. Okay, maybe before they may have jumped a gun had they not watched that video. But watching a video, they took an extra step to say, okay, and assess the situation for what it is and then realize, oh, I read that wrong. Or I had a follower of mine. I had him on my podcast, my virtual podcast that I do for the gun side of things. And he told me, I saved his life, my video saved his life. And he said, the reason why my video saved his life is because for the longest time, he didn't carry with around in the chamber. And a lot of people I know don't carry around the chamber. A lot of my friends don't carry with around in the chamber. And I started off carrying gun without carrying around in the chamber because I felt unsafe doing it.

And I understand that dynamic because it's a load of gun that you're putting in your God forbid you carry appendix like I do.

It's pointing at your dick.

It's pointing at your dick. Right. But I expressed that. Look, if you're not going to carry it around in a chamber, at least understand the limitations that come with it. Because there are some limitations that come with it. You're not going to be able to get your gun as fast a situation happens quickly. So you need to understand that. So that, what does that mean? That means that when you're out and about, you need to be more situationally aware, probably a little bit more so than, say, someone like me. Because I can get to my gun in under a second. It might take you two or three. So it's talking through those type of dynamics. And so after he watched the video, he kind of did an experiment that I said, I said carry without a round in a chamber for a period of time, and then see how often that gun is accidentally engaged. And you'll start to realize that as long as you have a couple of things, you'll be fine. A good holster and a good belt. If you carry in that manner you like to carry in your fanny pack, that's a different story.

But, for instance, not always. Yeah. Okay. Exactly. With how dynamic life is. Right. There's so many different ways to carry. Right. But not a lot of people know how to do this. So, for instance, I'm in sweats a lot of the time, right? So over to my experiences, because I have access to so many different guns and so many different holsters, I'm able to experiment. So I'm like, okay, I'm in sweats a lot, I'm in joggers a lot. What can I do to carry a firearm in a relatively secure way, safely, and not have to worry about it flopping around, for instance. Right. So, like, for instance, like these joggers I'm wearing now from arrowhead tactical. Right.

That's what I was going to bring up. That company.

Yeah. They make joggers specifically for concealed carry.

Yes, I have some of those.

Exactly. And I love them. I'm trying out their new shit now. And you wouldn't know about that otherwise. I know people who carry in sweats and they just stick the gun in there and they don't know any better. Right. So it's that type of information that our videos providing. But at the same time, how did.

It save that dude's life?

Got you. So, as far as saving his life, what he said was after he watched a video, he started carrying with a round in the chamber. And I can't remember if he said a couple of weeks ago, a couple of weeks later, he's a jeweler. And so as a jeweler, he was selling some jewelry to someone. And then it was actually a setup. And there were guys were coming to, they were trying to rob him. So the guys came to rob him. And because he had a rounding the chamber and other guy did it. When he was getting ready to pull out, when he was pulling out his gun, his gun was already pulled and he had around the table. So he was able to shoot the guy, neutralize him and get gone.

Wow.

Yeah. And so I did. I mean, I had him on my. He does a better job of explaining the detail.

Split second difference.

Exactly.

And boom.

Exactly. Fractions of a second is what matters. And so if you were a jeweler.

Jesus Christ.

And so he was like, your video saved my life. Now, I'm not going to take the credit for that. All you did, you made the decision yourself that you felt comfortable with, and that's what you did. But the information he had to get to that point is what was important.

What do you know about the reality of accidental discharge with a P 320?

So here's my understanding of the P 320, because I've heard different things. Right. Me too.

But there's so many stories there.

Because I carry a sig is in the lineup of my carry rotation of guns. Right. So I clearly. One the P 365. Okay.

The smaller one.

No, actually the P three. Yeah, the P three.

Macro.

Macro. The macro.

The one with the larger handle. More rounds.

Yes. So I still carry that one.

It's a great gun.

Yeah. Love it.

It's so small.

So small, but so big. Yeah.

It's a nine millimeter. And it has all those rounds.

And I'm big on capacity. That's me. I'm a capacity whore.

You carry it with a dot.

That one? No, all my other.

So slim.

Yeah, because I carry that. I carry that one. I carry the Springfield hellcat pro that has a red dot on it. And then, of course, similar size. Yeah. And then I carry the.

Literally smaller than my hand.

Yeah. But yet has 17 rounds.

Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. When I put it in my hand, it's smaller than my hand.

Yeah, it's nuts. So I call that my flight gun. I have guns for everything. So I have my Baltech case that I have for flying. You know, when you fly with a gun, you have to have a TSA approved case. So that stays in that box. It stays in it. So anytime I travel, because I travel a lot, I already have it there. It's already set up where I need to go. Throw it in my suitcase, and I'm good to go. So that's where I keep. The macro is designated for that gun. And then my go to are the cs from Takado or the Springfield Hellcat pro.

But the 320, does it have the same firing pin set up as the 365?

I don't think so.

Right.

I'm all positive it doesn't. Now they changed it, too. They changed it on the 320s after whatever those incidents that they said happened.

How recently?

It was some time ago. Actually. It was some time ago. Now I hear different stories because for every story you hear about the gun going off, there's another story about the person who's claiming it went off, actually caused it to go off because they did something inappropriate. Like when they were holstering it, they had a floppy holster, and they got into the trigger guard and it went off. Right, right. There is a story of it dropping, landing a specific way, and then gun going off. When that first happened, I think that's when they made the change to the.

America's favorite handguns is allegedly firing on its owners. Sig sour's p 320 pistol has wounded more than 80 people.

Again.

So they didn't pull the trigger.

But who are those people?

Right. Well, one of them I watched, there's a video.

I remember cop.

Yeah, the cop is in the precinct, and he's bending over and it goes off.

So I read into that, please. And I remember reading. I can't get it confirmed, but I remember reading something to the effect of he had. Because one of the things with carrying a firearm, when you're coming in and out of a holster. You need to make sure there's nothing impeding the entry of that gun into the holster, because what can happen is your shirt can get caught in the trigger, and when you're putting it in the holster, it creates enough pressure to have the gun go off. It can happen just like that. That's why anytime I go to reholster, I remove my shirt all the way, and I pull it out. I pull my holster out, and I watch every second of that gun going into the holster. I'm never in a rush to put my gun in the holster. There's no point, right. Because if you're putting the gun up, that means there's no more threat.

Right.

So I'm looking, I'm making sure everything is clear. Sometimes I'll go so far as to take the holster out, put the gun in, then put the holster back on, because I'm not. Because like I said.

But this one went off in the holster. It was a duty holster, so it was outside, and so it didn't shoot him. It shot the ground next to him.

I'm not saying this would happen, but you could still have fabric that gets caught in the outside waistband holster as well.

But it didn't seem like that was the case.

Again, I read into a little bit, and that was a theory that somebody had posed or someone saying that that's what happened. I couldn't confirm whether or not that's true or not.

There's also. Guys do things to triggers. They put different triggers on it.

You can do that if you modify your trigger. You can definitely modify it. So, too far where you can cause the gun not necessarily to go off.

On its own, but some guys like very light triggers.

Yeah, but that would just cause the gun to be accidentally. Automatic. Full automatic. Right? Yeah. And that's very illegal. So from that perspective. But I don't see. But for something getting caught in that trigger guard, this is just me being a gun guy and understanding holsters and how they function. So there's a couple of things that can take place here. Either that holster is not the right holster for that gun, because the holsters are specific to the gun.

Right.

Generally speaking, or some piece of material, clothing got caught in there that he wasn't aware of. My mind doesn't know how I can justify or explain how the gun just goes off.

It was also a physical movement that the guy did. Like, he bent forward.

Okay. Yeah. I remember seeing that video when he bent forward, and that's what makes me think there may have been a piece of material in the actual holster or.

A janky holster or something, possibly something funky.

Because I remember raking my brain, and I'm like, what could cause it just to go off on its own?

Right.

Because it's not even like the movement he engaged in was aggressive enough to cause the gun to just jolt and go. Like, for instance, if it dropped. I just can't see how that could be the case.

Right.

In all of my years of carrying firearms, and I'm pushing 15 years now. I don't see it. I don't dropping it. If it dropped, then I can see that.

But what's crazy is it's one gun.

That's a good point. Now, that gun is also used in a lot of police departments. Right.

But you don't hear about it from glocks.

No.

Right. It's weird.

That's true. That's very true.

Yeah. I've never heard of it. I have accidental discharge. Without touching the trigger.

Yeah.

Was anybody doing anything weird with the gun? Because Glock has a two stage, too. Yeah.

And so is a P 320.

Right.

So the weird thing about accidental discharges, they're not accidental, they're negligent. Because generally speaking, because I've heard cops say the gun just went off. No, you pulled the trigger. You didn't realize you pulled the trigger, but you did.

Oh, you mean in a fight or flight situation?

Even just normally, because you got to think about it. If you take. I've done this test before, men, women, it doesn't matter. You give a gun to somebody who's never actually handled a gun. What's the first thing they do if I just hand them a gun?

Trigger.

Exactly.

Yeah.

It's a very natural, instinctive thing to do. It's very unnatural to keep your trigger finger off of the gun.

Right.

Your brain's not wired to do that. It's like, this is the thing that makes a gun go. Put your finger there. Right. I hesitate to say this because I don't have hard data, I just have anecdotal data. But a lot of cops aren't necessarily gun people. A lot of them never shoot their guns outside of their qualification. So, outside of that, I can see situations where a lot of cops think the gun went off on their own, but they just have bad manipulation skills of a firearm because they haven't ingrained it into their stuff. You give me a toy gun, immediately, my index finger is going on the side. It's not touching that trigger. You give me a staple gun, because I've ingrained it. It's something I've ingrained because I handle firearms so often, and a lot of cops don't handle firearms as much as people give them credit for.

Right.

Because they're not all gun guys.

That's the scary thing. Right. Yeah. If guys are on the job and they don't train.

Yeah. I've known cops that don't like guns. They only carry it because they have to for their job.

How crazy.

Right. But then the person, like, the person who taught me initially how to shoot, he was a cop, but he's a gun guy. Right. You get what I'm saying?

Big difference.

Yeah. If he told me the gun went off, I'd believe him. Right. But I have a hard time believing. And to answer your question, with glocks. Yeah. I've heard cops say, oh, the gun just went off and it's like, no, it didn't. You put your finger on the trigger.

But there's way less, and there's not like p are happening.

Yeah. It's very specific to the 320s, which I agree with you. I have two or three of them. Three hundred and twenty s. I have.

One I got from Dave mods. It's nice.

Yeah.

I love it. Every time I touch them.

Now I have four, actually, about four of them. And I've never had issues, but I'll be honest and say that's not saying a lot because I don't shoot them often. Right. So me saying that I haven't had issues doesn't really give much credence to anything, but I'm more inclined, like you bring up an excellent point that it's so specific to a specific model and.

They did a change.

Yes. Also very specific from a drop standpoint. Right.

But there was something going on with the way it cocks.

Yeah. Trying to remember what it was.

Has it caused accidental fatalities?

Not that I'm aware of. Not that I'm aware of, but I'm trying to think.

I. Most people that I talked to, I should say this for Sig's sake, for the sake of the company. Most people that I've talked to are very skeptical. That are gun people.

I mean, you can hear it in.

My voice and everybody I talk to.

Yeah.

There's people that are fans of sigs.

Because I'm a massive fan of sig.

They make great guns.

You bring a great point, though. The fact that it's exclusive to that, to one model. Yeah. It's interesting. That said, I'm still skeptical enough that I'd still carry it, right.

And it's also a thing where it's like, if it really was happening, how was it only 80 people? Right? How many 320s are out there in active duty just with cops? How many 320s do people have for home defense?

That's what makes me think.

How many people carry 320s? It's a common gun to carry, but.

That'S what makes me think. I promise you, if you look into those numbers, the vast majority of those 80 are cops. I'm almost positive the vast majority of them are going to be cops.

Well, I look at it the same way the way you look at guns, the same way I look at martial arts. With cops, there is nothing that drives me more fucking crazy than cops that don't know how to defend themselves and have zero knowledge of grappling and get into exchange with someone, and then they're on their back and they don't know what to do. How did you sign up for this without a rudimentary understanding, at least, of grappling? You don't know what the fuck to do. How you're engaging with someone physically, and you don't know how to control them. Are you hoping they listen?

If I was a cop, I'd be in it. Like my friend that taught me how to shoot. He's a fighter. He fights.

That's got to be part of the job, man. That's one of the things that Andrew Yang proposed. He was talking when he was running for president. He was like, I think that all cops should be at least purple belt level of jiu jitsu. I'm like, preach, preach.

But realistically, right? You know what I'm saying?

Purple belt's a long fucking road, Jack. That's a long road, Jack.

And we can barely get enough cops.

Now as it is just to not be fat, right? How many cops you see are just morbidly.

Which I think is insanity.

It's insanity. Like, literally, part of your tools for your job is for you to be able to use your body to defend yourself and others and to be able to detain someone, and you can't do.

It couldn't be me, because I'm like, at any moment, you could begin shot at, bro.

Yes, at any moment. Or someone from you. I mean, if your gun is in your holster and your hands are on me and you don't know how to fight, you're never getting to that gun. You're not going to get to that gun. How are you going to get to that gun? You don't have a chance in hell no, I'm going to overhook that right arm. And that's a wrap. That's a wrap. Now you're helpless.

And I learned that the first day I started doing.

Especially if you're wearing clothes. You're wearing clothes and someone has a good overhook and they fucking cinch that bitch down. You ain't going nowhere. You're going nowhere. And then you get tripped, and now you're on your back. And then some guy rotates so he can grab your gun, and you can't even grab it.

You better have a retention level ten on that motherfucker and you better.

Yeah. That's an interesting thing.

Right.

The retention holsters, where people have holsters that. There's a very specific way to get it out. Yeah. That scares me. In a high pressure situation.

Yeah. I mean, it's one of the things you can train to. Because the same thing can be said about 1911. Because they have a safety.

Right. But doesn't your thumb always go on there?

Yes, that's the thing about 1911. So safeties on, like, polymer style guns aren't necessarily the same as the.

Click it.

Yeah, because they're a lot smaller. They're not very intuitive. And you got to click with the 1911 Jones speak. If I were to draw the gun right now, it's just already on, so it's going to drop. Whereas with polymer guns, you're kind of fishing for it. Like, where is this thing? Oh, there. Right. But, yeah, man, I'm trying to think. Because I remember I had a barretta. I was doing a shooting course, training house, and one of the scenarios was I was supposed to clear this house, and they gave me a barretta, and I had a safety on it. And I remember going and clearing through the house, and then it was a blue gun. It functioned like a gun, but it didn't shoot bullets. And guy popped around a corner, I was like, oh. Pulled the gun. Gun wouldn't go off. Take safety off. Yeah.

Well, that's what training is for.

Exactly. So same thing with the retention holster. You want to train.

How does a retention holster work?

So there are different levels. Right. So there's like one, two, three, level four, level one, level two, level three, level four. Right. So the lowest amount is just, you have a gun in a holster. Right. And you literally turn it upside down, it'll fall out. Then you have the kind of like the kidex holsters where you put it in. You hear that click, that kind of like, click. So all you need is just a good tug and it comes out. Then you have other ones where when you come down on the holster, there's a button, because there's a little thing that goes over the back end of the gun. So even if you pull it out, it's not coming out. And so when you come down on the holster, you push the button and it flips out of the way so that you could pull the gun out. And then I think there's another level that's even more than that. It's like, there's like the little ring on it and there's like a hood, and you got to remove that. They're designed where if the gun is on you, it's one motion, but if it's a gun that's not on you, you're going to be in such an angle, you're going to have a hard time getting to that button, to that thing to be able to get the gun out.

Right. Like I said, they start at, like, level one, all the way up to level four. Anybody can get them. You can go to a store and get them. Right. If I open carried, I don't open carry, generally. I don't actually really open carry at all. The only time I've ever open carried is, like, when I'm out in the country or something like that, or in some rural environment. But generally speaking, if I were to open carry, I would have at least, like, a level three, level four retention holster, because I've seen too many videos. I've done too many videos on people who are like, in a gas station and they're open carrying, and then somebody comes up behind them, grabs a gun and runs.

Oh, yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

I saw a guy at a convenience store in a video, a guy had it in his lower back. Yeah, a guy snatched his gun, just.

Ran out the door, can't even chase him. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? Give me back my gun.

Unless you have one in your ankle, too.

Exactly. It's one of those things. And that's a hotly contested debate in the gun space. Should you or should you not open carry? What are the benefits and what are the drawbacks? Because the one mindset says if you open carry, you're going to be the first target for a criminal, but then another person comes up and says, if you open carry, you're going to be the last target. Because criminals are like, I want a weak target. I don't want somebody who already has a gun. I see he has a gun. I'm going to find somebody else.

Especially if they have situational awareness.

Exactly. It's so easy to say because situational awareness can get you out of a lot of shit where you never even have to go to your. Yeah, it really can. I had a situation where I was followed, where dudes were trying to rob me.

You told me about that.

Yeah. And only I really believe, if not for my situational awareness. I call it paranoia.

Sometimes paranoia will help.

I do not discount my paranoia. I accept it full. I accept it full because when I'm right, it's my best friend.

Well, it's also. Crime is reality.

Yeah.

And the idea that you won't come across crime because you're a good person, that's nuts. You zig when you should have zagged and you're around the wrong people.

Because if I didn't pick them up, they would have caught me slipping. Because I would have been a rap, and it wouldn't be nothing I can do about it. I could have had 15 guns on me. Wouldn't have mattered. Wouldn't have mattered at all. The thing that sucks, though, is in the moment for someone like me. And just goes to show you, and this is pretty pervasive in all the guys in the gun community. In that moment when they were chasing me the whole time, I'm thinking through not only I want to get out of this situation alive, I'm literally thinking, what are the legal ramifications for every action I might engage in, right? Because I know the standard of responsibility for me is exceedingly higher, right? Because, one, I'm a known gun guy, but purely just me having a concealed carry, my burden of responsibility is ten times higher, even that of the criminal. Right, because you should have known you're a concealed carrier. Right? So there's so many things that when you are a concealed carrier, someone who just carries a gun, you are already behind an eight ball. All a criminal has to do is wake up and decide, I'm going to go engage in some criminal shit.

I'm going to find somebody. I'm going to attack them. They know exactly what they're going to do. They know exactly what they're going to bring. I'm just living my life, and I have to react to this. So not only do I have to react to the fact that somebody may try to rob me, I have to be thinking about, at what point will I be justified in even using my firearm to protect myself, right? Because at that time, when I was in the car and they were following me, chase me in the car, yeah, technically, they were chasing me, but I couldn't stick my gun out the window and start shooting.

Right.

Because they hadn't technically broke a law yet. They haven't done anything to warrant to justify me shooting. They could have just been chasing me just to have fun. I don't know. And so I have to think about those things as a legal, responsible gun owner. Criminals don't.

Right.

So it always pisses me off that these politicians make laws that make it even harder for legal gun owners to exercise that right. Like, these laws don't do anything but make it harder for us because we obey laws.

Like what law specifically?

Like, just even the process of acquiring a firearm. First of all, in California, why would you limit my round count to ten rounds? Yeah, like, you're making that harder for me. If I'm being chased in a vehicle, I don't know how many people are in that car. Generally speaking, when criminals are engaging in criminal activity, it's not by themselves.

Right.

There's multiple. I'm largely going to be by myself dealing with multiple people.

What is the logic to limiting round capacities?

It's purely based on mass shootings. They figure the less rounds you have in a gun, the less people die. That's what they think. Because they see every. Because every mass shooter that they see, they say, oh, they have this 30 round magazine, which is a standard capacity for a lot of these guns. It's because they had so many bullets that they were able to kill so many people. That's not true. Generally speaking, when you have a high body count in a mass shooting, it is the context and the circumstance of the shooting that caused it.

Well, wasn't the Virginia tech one of the most horrific mass shootings?

Yes.

And the guy.

36 people. He killed 36 people.

Pistols.

With pistols. Right.

And then they'll go on, kept reloading.

Yeah, that's all he did. But the thing is, what made him so deadly, what people don't talk about is he chained the doors. He chained them. So he had free reign of that school for who knows how long. And so all those people can do is hide in corners. And he literally walked in classrooms. Just start picking people off. Where were they going to go? Right. He's the only one with guns. He just starts shooting people one by one. One by one. And the cops who were outside trying to get. They can't get in the building because he chain locked the door. So it wasn't the fact that he had a 30 round magazine in his gun, it was fact that he chained the door and nobody can get in to stop him. Right. And then those were with handguns, but they talk about, oh, it's these deadly assault rifles and so forth and so on.

Did you see those ladies on the view talking about ars like hunting a deer with an ar? There's not going to be anything left of it.

Some people shouldn't just be part of the conversation.

Imagine having that conversation and being that ignorant, openly and not even understanding that two two six is not even.

You can barely hunt, ethically, a deer with a two, two, three round.

Yeah, it's two, two three or five. Five six. Yeah. They're not big rounds.

They're not at all. They're actually really small. Yeah, that's the crazy thing. That's crazy.

Really small. Somehow or another, they think you're shooting a cannon. It's so dumb.

But it's ignorance. Right. And I wouldn't have a problem with it if they were open to having a conversation, honestly.

But they're pushing a narrative that is based entirely on ignorance.

Yeah, but that's mainstream media for you. Yeah, I've been dealing with it for ten plus years. When it comes to the conversation about firearms in this country, that is the mainstream media narrative, and it doesn't change.

And it's also the idea that you wouldn't hunt with one. Listen, hunting with one, especially in a 308. An AR and a 308, it's a good ethical move because you need a follow up shot sometimes and you don't have to go. You don't have to reload it.

Exactly.

There's a lot of people in the hunting space that don't like semiautomatic weapons for hunting. But I'm like, why?

It's the dumbest thing to me.

If you want to shoot an animal ethically, having the ability for a follow up shot instantaneously is a benefit to ethics.

I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that they grew up with those hunting guns and are not comfortable with semi automatics because they don't really know about them very much. And so they're like, nobody needs that.

Well, there's the two groups, right? The fuds. Yeah. It's Elmer Fudd, the hunters, and then people are gun.

Know. It's like I said, I wouldn't have a problem with the ignorance if they were willing to have the conversation. Right. At least be open to, say, having someone like me or somebody else from the space to come on. But usually when they have the conversations.

They'Re just yell at you and talk.

They're just chickenboking amongst each other, and they're not even really getting anywhere.

They don't know what they're talking about. And on top of that, they demonize anybody that has a differing perspective, and they won't have an actual good faith conversation about it. And if they did, they would find out that they're solely uninformed and they're unwilling to accept the narrative that some people do. Save people's lives with guns.

Ton of people, to the tune of 1.63 million every year, people use a gun in self defense. Nobody talks about that. Yeah, nobody. They talk about the 40,000 people who die every day, die every year from gun violence. But even when you break those numbers down.

Yeah, the mass shooting numbers are severely distorted, too, because people don't understand. Most of these mass shootings are gang violence.

Dude, I did a video where I remember there was a. I forgot the actual shooting. There was a mass shooting, a legit one. A legit mass shooting. It was like, a couple of weeks ago and about three weeks ago, and they were saying. And then the report was, there have been five mass shootings since 2024. We're only a week into 2000. I think we were only five. Four days into 2024. And they was like, there have already been five mass shootings. So I said, that don't sound right. If there were five mass shootings within five days of 2024, I'd know about it. So I was like, okay, so it was a CNN article. So I go and I look at the hyperlink that they use to quote that stat. And it was like, gun violence archive or something like that. So I click it, and so they list the five incidents. So I was like, all right, the problem is, they don't expect people to go three, four layers deep into the rabbit hole.

Right?

They expect that. You just see the link there. Oh, that solidifies it. I don't even need to look at what the actual incidents were. They're correct. So I click it, and I go to the first incident. It was like a drive by. I go to second incident, it was a fight at a party. Next incident, drive by, next incident, New Year's Eve party, la drive by. No. A dispute between two group of people. And then turned out and was a shooting, basically street shit. The only one that was actually the mass shooting, like a legit mass shooting was the one that the initial article was about. So basically what they did is they took four of these street violence shootings and then cluster them in and called them mass shootings.

Right. And by the way, you're never going to stop street violence until you stop disparaged communities. You're never going to stop street violence until. I mean, I've said this so many times, but I'll say it one more time. Think about the money we've sent to Ukraine, and imagine if they put that money into cleaning up inner cities and making them safer.

Do people really think that motherfucking kids who grow up in these environments really want to live like that?

Exactly.

Like they really want to live their life looking over their shoulder.

Exactly.

And having to worry about who's trying to kill them, what's happening? Do they really think people want to live like that? Come on.

It's a convenient narrative. It's a convenient narrative. And it's also like they do nothing to fix those spots.

Nothing. And who are those places run by?

Democrats.

And I hate the fact that I even have to say it.

It's so true.

But the only reason I say it is because when I look at who was pushing the narrative for gun control, it is always a democrat. Always. Which is fine, okay, if that's the way the party wants to lean, cool. But what I have a problem with is when the vast majority of gun murders in this country are coming from inner cities that are all ran by Democrats. That's where I have a problem. Because you're pushing legislation and you're pushing policies that do nothing to address the root cause of the issue. You're literally using the deplorable conditions in these environments to justify more gun control policies that will do nothing to fix these environments but give you more control.

Over people and put responsible gun owners in danger.

Exactly. Or turn us into criminals.

Right.

Because you're making such convoluted laws, nobody knows shit how many people call and ask me, I'm going to this state. I'm going to California. Can I carry this? Can I bring this? Can I do. It's so convoluted and all over the place. Nobody knows how to not break the laws when it comes to guns. So it begs the question, are you trying to create criminals? Right. Because that's what it seems like. Because you're clearly not trying to stop any of it, because you have an entire environment over here that has the same consistent problem. It's not like the inner city in Chicago is so different from the inner city in Louisiana.

Right?

It's the same shit, the same problems. So if we understand that and they're happening in these very specific areas, why the fuck are we still talking about gun control why there are so many people. There are so many people who have more guns than food, who live in other places in this country, and they don't have this gun violence problem. They don't. When's the last time you saw a black dude who lived in the suburbs doing drive bys in a bmw? Right. You don't see it.

Right.

So that tells you there's a totally different issue here that's going on and you're not willing to address it. And if you're not going to address the real issue, shut the fuck up about guns, because you don't care. And you have a totally different motivation for why you're pushing it and has nothing to do with actually saving lives.

Right. It has to do with a narrative that your ideology accepts openly, which is that guns are the problem.

Yes, that's it.

And it's a childish perspective.

Exceedingly childish.

Yeah.

And it's not only childish, it's getting people killed. Because at the end of the day, that violence has to go somewhere. It has to. You can only rob the people in the environment that you're in for so long before you have to start spreading out. So now what's ended up happening is you have people who are now forced to confront this type of violence without any means to protect themselves. So your policies are actually hurting people and causing more lives to be taken. So as far as I'm concerned, anything they have to say about the issue until they're willing to talk about the root cause of the issue is bullshit.

You couldn't have said better. It's as good as anyone can say it. I think it's a good way to wrap this up because I think that narrative is not being discussed openly. And I think it's logical, and I think you're dead right. And I think the root cause of it is these crime infested, gang infested neighborhoods where people don't have hope.

Everybody wants to ignore it and just say, that's just the culture, it's the environment. Yes, maybe, but there's a reason why that culture started in the first place.

Yes.

And so until we understand what's driving, look, if we're really just like, hey, we just don't give a fuck, then say that. Then at least we know we're on that level. We understand that. You just don't give a fuck. We can let them kill themselves off. Fuck them. But if your job is really wanting to save lives and really wanting to minimize the amount of gun violence in this country, if you're not willing to have that conversation. Honestly. You're full of shit. You're full of shit.

Preach. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you being on here, always. I appreciate your perspective, and I think it's important to get your side of things out there because it's logical, it's educated. You know what the fuck you're talking about and you don't hear it. It's hard to hear.

Unfortunate, but it is what it is.

Well, thanks for providing it.

Thanks for.

Appreciate you.

Thanks for giving me your platform.

Always, anytime. Thank you.

Bye, everybody.