Can I say something about Tim? I'm going to ride it with Tim. I was talking shit to Tim one just recently.

I was like, Jokuj would have whooped your ass. Would he have whooped your ass?

And he goes, and this is the ultimate Tim Duncan text. He goes, I played him after I was me and before he was him, and I did okay.

That's the way he takes it. If you know Tim, that's the ultimate compliment to Jokuj of before he was him and after was me, I did okay.