Have to think about these worst case scenarios or even the less favorable scenarios that don't involve you going on shopping trips and getting a ton of money, and you have to be OK or at least be aware of the potential consequences and kind of prepare for them because of this world that we live in.

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And. Welcome, my humble whore to these podcast, would you like to introduce yourself? I'm Leeanna. I am the creator and host of a humble for and actually Anna and I just finished up a really great episode talking about her life and kind of advice and feeling like what you're doing enough is enough for now. And only fans like we covered so many topics. But this one, we're shifting a little bit. So I'm super excited to talk more.

If you want to hear me talk about what kind of porn I like, what did we talk about? Tentacle porn, all sorts of fun stuff. So, yes. So I'm really excited because you kind of mentioned when we first chatted that you're kind of like the basic bitch version of sexuality and kind of your audience really isn't on the far end spectrum of crazy weird sex stuff, but just a lot more normalized, which I think is really important to talk about.

Yeah, I think that my sexual experiences, although I've had a lot of cool stories, the quality of the sex has not been anywhere near I wanted like I never really took pleasure seriously. So I like stories, but I like to kind of bring in, like, important information that I wish I knew when I was younger, considering I've been sexually active since I was in my mid teens. So that's almost a decade now of sex. And most of these I am queer when I mean we I mean like me look as sex is more like a validation.

Like every time you do it, like, OK, he still likes me, OK? I'm still important in this relationship. So if anyone I mean, I don't know if you can agree, but what would you tell to anyone listening who kind of feels that way with sex? I think a lot of the repairs that I had sex life really started with my stuff. And first of all, like masturbating is a huge thing, like getting to know what your pussy looks like is huge because I didn't know.

And like for me, I have longer lips and like longer labels than the places that you see in porn. And so I felt so much shame and that really affected how I had sex from the very moment I started flirting with real fight. Obviously being in bed with him, I just avoided him looking down there. I was super nervous if any of the guys, which not many ate out, but if they were to, like, suck on one of my lips, I was just mortified because I was like, they probably think it's a joke, like whatever the case is.

So really becoming comfy with yourself is the number one thing. And then also finding what works for you. What different if you're more into the passion or if you want a quick bang out session and then also figuring out at what point do you want that and what is it that works best in your life? That's very interesting to me about like do you have or have you heard of big pussy energy, kind of like big dick energy? Like I feel like once you work your way up to that confidence of yes, I have more I have a little extra pillow around my pussy to give you that extra comfort like that's all I see it as, like extra skin to hug a cock even tighter.

And like it's literally like flesh. Like I it blows my mind how we as humans like hyper analyze the way our skin is, because if you look at like your dog, like it's not worried about like the size of its ear, how long its tale is, like it's just fucking made up fuckers. And how do you teach someone? Because they don't teach you in school how to fucking love yourself. But if if we were to analyze guys, Cox like first of all, on my only fans, I do dick ratings, but I'm like, oh my God.

Like, no cock looks the same. And first of all, I have yet to see the perfect cock. Some are like discolored. Some are like wiggly shaped, some have a giant head. Some have like extremely pronounced veins. And I appreciate them all because being different is what makes this unique. But. I just wonder, like, what if they thought about their dicks as much as we thought about our pussies, like is not a thing, not even though they're dead, two dead baby birds.

I the I think are great to look at. Yeah, you have to, but let's look at the balls like those are why women ignore them so much. And it's because it literally looked like two dead baby birds in a sack and they expect you to suck them and love them when they've been sitting in their pants all day. And my boyfriend will start sweating for no reason. We'll just be sitting on the bed and all of a sudden he's just sweating.

So I'm twenty four hours pale. And then he's like, yeah, you want to put it in your mouth. But now, yeah, my, my partner and I, we love to shave each other in the shower like there's something that turns me on about me, like just bending over and spreading my cheeks. So have him just like get all up in there because you know how hard it is to shave there. So it's like a ritual.

We do like we shower, we shave and then we, like, eat ass in the shower and it's just so delicious and yummy. And I know that's probably not for everyone, but I love, like, clean shaven, fresh sweat balls in my mouth, like his balls just like fill up my mouth like a fucking squirrel to me, like balls are the foreplay for the dick.

My goal has been to kind of get towards the goal, which is where the asshole is and everything. I said it so many times that he's so sick of it. But we're going to get there. I just have to have enough guys tell him that it's worth it. I think guys obviously need more confidence, I mean, they don't have to have it, but it's like the forbidden fruit and if they only knew how much pleasure is down there and I think I read an article in Cosmo when I was 16 talking about the skin between the balls and the asshole, and they were like, huh?

The Googe was called the spot of the I like the Gooch. So it's telling you, like, if you're trying to work your way to the but like focus on the Googe, so like lick your thumb and like just press on that pressure point because it feels kind of like a muscle like kind of like your palm. So just like press on it, like while you're sucking his balls, like just get right below his balls and he might freak out, he might be like, oh my God, you're too close to my ass.

But just to reassure them, like, it's OK, baby, I'm right here, OK? And consent is important obviously. But maybe like you spit on his balls a little bit, maybe the drool just like slides and his asshole a little bit, and then maybe your thumb just like sneaks down to the butthole and we'll try that or like a rubbing motion. And I even put like a vibrator in that area. And for him it didn't really do much, which maybe that's him.

But now I'm trying to ramp it up to like, OK, you know why it doesn't work? It's because it's not your asshole. So, like, fuck it, open it up. OK, let's go. And he doesn't like the vibration down there either, because I like to talk to myself with my vibrator while we have sex. And it's a little too much like drilling. Yeah, too much drilling happening. But once we got past the Gooch thing, now it's just like a staple during sex.

Oh wow. Got me really excited. What I was curious. So of course you've been in a long term partnership and you asked me kind of about my sex life. So as this coming up to being the longest relationship I've had, I think surpassing even if it passes two years or when it passes two years, it'll be the longest relationship I've had. And I think a fear of a lot of people is how do you keep the sex life going?

What ebbs and flows do you have with it? Well, I think that once you hit a year, you finally start to date the person who they really are. So really, when you reach a year, it's like you just started dating. So then you have to move in with that person and then you meet who they really, really are. So then experience another year and then that's when the relationship turns into work. It's no longer easy.

And I think when you meet someone, if it feels really easy, that's a great sign. But just like when you have a friendship or a relationship with your parents or a sibling, it's not easy. It's so you can get so quick to anger with someone you love because they mean so much to you, like even like my mom or my dad. Like, I could just get irritated with them at the quick. Yeah. At the drop of a hat and use.

When that happens with your partner, you're like, oh my God, we're going to break up like we're not meant to be. But you have to realize like love and hate are almost such a similar emotion. So once you get past that, you meet this person, you get past the two year mask and then you're living with them. And then it's like, OK, honestly, being in a partnership is like having a roommate because you're living with them.

So ultimately you want someone that you love living with the best. And once you found someone that you really enjoy living with and you have this like great, like routine together, the sex is then just a plus. And people think sex is the relationship. So when you said, like, you have it every day, I'm like, oh, my God, it's just. Me being like a mom, I'm like, I don't want your relationship to become solely around the sex because ultimately it's how well you live together, it's how will you support each other.

It's how well you communicate. And again, the sex is just a plus. So we've gone there was probably a time where we didn't have sex for a month, and that was probably because I was so stressed with business and I couldn't there was no way I could come. I could make him come. But I was like, I can't I'm not in the mood. I'm so focused on my business. So once I finally got my business out of the house and I could breathe in my own house, now we're having, like, really great sex again.

But from that whole kind of synopsis, the key thing is that he supported me during all these years. And that's what truly attracts me to him, is when he brings me coffee in the morning when he goes to the warehouse to pick pick up a product I need. It's not his cock. It's not his gluteus asshole. It's someone being your best friend and just willing to protect you and fight for you. OK, I want to stop there.

I'm like, no, I like that. And I think the biggest what I'm breaking down in my twenties are currently, as you know, with time. And as you grow older, the partnerships that you have, whether with friends or with romantic partners, they mean so much more. And you obviously want them to last like you are more confident in yourself. So knowing when trying to figure out how to make it last in the best way possible is where I'm trying to figure it out and also what's meant to be versus what's really not to what's not.

And my biggest thing with marriage is also breaking down everything that society shows you with the wedding and the love. It really pushes the passion side of your mind. But then you really no one tells you how marriage is. No one tells you how relationships are and what to what is just you guys being humans and working out or when to stop. That's a big thing that I see women having issues with, is when to stop, when something is unhealthy.

And it's not worth pushing past in a sense. And those are the things that are super important for especially women, I believe, and also queer people, because we go through so much and we go through so many hardships and things that I feel like a lot of men don't have to go through that we need to figure out for ourselves and really be confident so we know how to make the best life for ourself and our potential partner.

Yeah, just like you said, the expectations, we're expected to meet someone or here's the funny thing. It's like you grow up in the family and your dad's like you can't date, you can't dress provocatively. But the second you go to college, they want you to have a man. They want you to have kids. They all of a sudden want your belly to be brewing up kids and popping them out for for them. And the relationship I'm in is the complete opposite.

My business, my dogs, those are my children. No one can tell me otherwise. As far as marriage goes, like I have a ring on my finger and that's kind of like a big fuck you to everyone in public who tries to approach me. But at the end of the day, like, what's the ceremony going to do? All it's going to do is tie together on a piece of paper. And if, God forbid, anything were to happen, it's going to make it a whole lot more complicated, which stresses me the fuck out.

And both of us coming from divorced parents. All I see when it comes to marriage is trauma like this. If we were to get married all of a sudden, my shift is going to be OK, when's it going to leave me? When's he going to cheat on me? Because that's what my dad did. His dad did. So I understand that. He understands that. And he's like, you know what? I love you. We don't have to sign this paper if it makes you if it brings up like post-traumatic stress.

And it's funny because you you guys come from divorced families, but we come from, surprisingly, both families who are openly gay to get. Well, not necessarily. And that's that's not my mom had a great relationship. Like I can't think of a time I've ever seen them argue. And it was a great companionship. They were both teachers and they really have so much patience with them. So I was very fortunate and I thought everybody was kind of like that.

However, his parents, they're married, but it's a different dynamic. You know, they were they met so young and like they'd been there for so long. It's kind of that dynamic in a sense. And so marriage doesn't always equate to happiness. So I am totally an advocate of not getting married civil unions and also divorced because that you have to have. Your threshold, and if it comes to that breaking point, nobody should stay in things that are detrimental to their health in a sense.

And that's something I see on tick tock.

A lot of people commenting that they want to star and only fans, but they don't want to tell their partner about it or they're scared what their partner would think. So how do you feel like how would you respond to that? I remember us talking about this point, like I want to hear what like how it is with your boyfriend and you. So I was lucky with the fact that I've always been upfront with who I am from when we first met.

So I just started entering into the queer community. I had had my first encounter with, like a female, a first like relationship partnership with a female. And I was also really exploring my sexuality at that point. And so he was surprised. I really know for everything that I've thrown at him this past year and a half and with the podcast, he has been completely supportive.

And we talked about it briefly about where does that support come from? Where does that why he's so at peace with himself? Because if the roles were reversed and he was talking about all the places he slammed and all the talk didn't use a condom, those that would not last, that would not fly with me. So I had his will. He had his time to mature. He's had his time with women. And he's very confident in what we have.

But also there's never been any trust issues. So I think having a good foundation and always being open about who you are is really where it comes down to, because he's like I've never felt threatened with any other male. Like even when my ex would continuously message me throughout a period of time, there was never a time where he put me down for it or yelled at me or even said, you know, why are you doing that? Like that makes you look kind of sketchy.

He led my time with my positions as an adult, and that takes a lot of patience and understanding, which is more than I have for sure. So I couldn't have done this without without his support. And you always need to talk because I've seen people not tell their partners. And that's just that's like opening the first door to ending things. Yeah, that that's a really good point. And I think you couldn't have said it best about support, but I think it stems from having boundaries because in any relationship, we have deal breakers, we have boundaries for our emotions.

And the only way you can can two people can come together. And maybe one of those people in the relationship wants to branch out is if you communicate about those boundaries. So whether it's like you communicating like, yes, I want to experiment with women and him communicating like, OK, I support that. But after you have that conversation, you have to ask him, well, what are your boundaries for about that? Do I need to have you?

What's it called like interview the women I want to talk to. Do you want to know about our experiences? Do you want to be a part of it? I think that's completely huge, which on a few of my other episodes, my partner and I talk about our experiences with that. But sexually, that's completely different than what it is like with business, because my only fans is a business. So when I approached him about it, I said, hey, you supported me when I did webcam.

And there's this new thing called only fans. I think I would excel the fuck out of it. So here's the thing. This is what I want to post. These are my boundaries with it. And my boundaries just quickly were like, I didn't want to do anything face to face how I did with webcam because you kind of did like live shows there. And I said, like, I don't want to create content with anyone, but I do want to show my body because he knows, like, I get off by people seeing my body because I feel really good about it.

So he responded and was like, I think that's a great idea. I think there's a lot of things we want to do to our house. So this would be a great way to, like, make more money into that. And then he proceeded to say, like, I don't feel comfortable making content with you. I don't want my dick on the Internet. So things like that happen and you have to embrace them because it helps you set those boundaries.

So that's really the entirety of my experience. Having a supportive partner doing that, you have to set a balance like is that money worth the emotional distress? Does he get turned on that thousands of people are turned on by me? Maybe. Does he get turned on? When I come downstairs after masturbating in a cute outfit and I have warmed myself and fluffed myself up for him? Probably. And those are those are just kind of the the hurdles in the face, but they're completely different for everybody.

So my question to you is, if you were to be on only fans, what kind of conversation would you have with your man being more of a humble whore? And what would you kind of see happening if that were to be your experience? I brought up to him at some point, but I was more on the fence of it for my own personal reasons of like, OK, well, I can have a job in the professional world and all my bosses or like the entire team is like 40 year old men.

So what I love them to even stumble across this upon this podcast. Know what? I love for them to see even my Instagram now, because we're living in a society where showing skin is seen as unprofessional.

So I've thought about those things. And then I started to think about if I wanted to create and only fans what type of content, because you and I both have tattoos. A lot of the people that I talk to who don't have any experience in any type of showing their bodies, they're like, well, your tattoos will give you away. Why come to the form to face the fact that no shit like I got them to be unique.

So I'm just trying to figure out the worst case scenarios because I have done the sugar daddy thing. My roommate and I both did it and she actually had a very negative experience with that. And so you really do have like they happen, you have to think about these worst case scenarios or even the less favorable scenarios that don't involve you going on shopping trips and getting a ton of money. And you have to be OK or at least be aware of the potential consequences and kind of prepare for them because of this world that we live in.

So only fans, I'm not quite there yet. Like, I think I thought about maybe showing off my body, not the inside yet, maybe like no clitoral Thain's or not showing my lips any type of energy there. But there's like underwear, even feet, because, yes, there are a ton of fetishes for anything. I'm sure you even find women who just show their faces. That's a really good point about the bikini stuff. And from my boyfriend's point of view, he'd rather pleasure himself to someone who's not showing as much.

And then you can work your way up to showing more and raise your prices when you do.

Wow, OK. I do have a like I do, I did open my Tinder and my Bumbo and I have it set on everyone from Bumble. I kind of switch. You have to be able to switch between dating and barf. But for the dating forum I have it on women and then for the Tinder side, I have it on everybody because I just put up a couple of provocative pictures of myself in bikinis. And then I have I have a slutty podcast in my bio.

Here's my Instagram. So that's like my very simple form of marketing and it's working at small numbers and he's completely fine with it. And let me interrupt and ask you this for Tinder. A, do you worry about your safety because it is location based? And B, do you have any advice for people who want to promote on dating sites? I hadn't really thought too much about that. My podcast is so new that it's under like two thousand listeners and so slowly, I slowly want to work that way up.

But I have added smaller measures of, I guess, privacy and security to what I do because and let me think so I change my name or I use my name on my podcast.

But my personal Instagram, I just have like a different name that I use.

And although I like my my podcasts post on Instagram with my personal page, people can find out whatever they fuck, whatever the fuck they want to find out. But I just do small things or makes it a little bit more time consuming to do so. And that goes along with everything else as well.

So basically and just from what I've heard, if you are advertising like sugar baby services on an app, obviously you shouldn't advertise that. You should just pretend like you are there today and kind of get them off the app to disclose that. Yeah, for sure. I mean, I haven't ever used Tinder for sugar baby things. I closed my account or I've just deactivated it on the sugar baby side. Mine is just the small stuff in podcast promotion and if anything, contact me through my Instagram on the podcast if they follow it and go through that way.

But there really hasn't been any messages I've responded to because of course, tinder thirsty guys Porche pics like they're going to want something. Don't they all tell everyone where to find you and I want all the producers listening to support my new humble whore of a friend? Well, thank you so much for having me. Today has been super fulfilling.

I've been waiting the couple of weeks for us to both have our opportunity to talk to one another, each other listeners.

You guys can find me on a humble whore on Instagram and also on Spotify and Apple, the same name for all streaming devices. And you can hear Anna's portion on a hobbyhorse will come out in a few weeks.

Thanks again for being on the podcast. I hope all these lights are inspired and we'll see you on the next episode.

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