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On Monday, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that the Biden administration is legally allowed to open the border by force to cut down razor wire along the Rio Grande sector of the US-Mexico border in Texas. The usual suspects voted for this, Sonia Sotom mayor, Elaina Kagan, Kenthaji Brown-jackson, but they were joined by so-called conservative justices, John Roberts and Amy Coney-Berrett. So in response to this ruling, which shocked many, the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, drafted a letter, not simply to the administration, but to the world. And here's part of what it says. Under President Biden's lawless border policies, more than six million illegal immigrants have crossed our Southern border in just three years. That is more than the population of 33 different states in this country. This illegal refusal to protect the states has inflict unpresented harm on the people all across the United States. Ebegos on to say, The state of Texas has the authority under the Constitution to, quote, protect itself. That authority is the supreme law of the land, and it supersedes any federal statutes to the contrary. And then, following very quickly, 25 other states with Republican governors, signed a letter pledging their support to Texas and its constitutional right to defend itself and this country.


Those states include Ohio, Florida, Utah, Nevada, and many others. And then the Biden administration responded. The administration threatened threatened. These states, and particularly Texas, with a 24-hour deadline to allow Border Patrol to reopen the border and to take down the barbed wire. Clearly a collision course. What happens next? We're thankful to be joined now by Governor Greg Abbott of Texas, who joins us by phone from India. Governor Abbott, thank you so much for joining us. If the administration declares that it plans to federalize the National Guard of the State of Texas, your National Guard, what will be your response?


Well, first, I'll be shocked. That would be a bonehead and move on his part, a total disaster. But for one, as you might imagine, we are prepared in the event that that unlikely event does occur to make sure that we will be able to continue exactly what we've been doing over the past month, and that is building these barriers, whether it be the Constitutional wire or other anticlimate border barriers, whatever we've been building, the Biden administration is now trying to attack us because of it, and we will continue to do exactly what we're doing to expand our denial of illegal entry into the state of Texas.


With state employees, I assume, not with National Guard, but can you envision a scenario in which you would put armed state employees on the border instead of the National Guard of Texas?


We do have other armed state employees on the border as we speak right at this minute, and that's the Texas Department of Public Safety, as well as other law enforcement officers, as well as National Guard from other states. You can be assured there will be more National Guard from other states and more law enforcement officers within the state of Texas and other states. Tucker, I just signed Allah, a new law in the state of Texas that will go into effect on March the fifth that authorizes any law enforcement officer in the state of Texas to be able to arrest anybody coming across the border illegally.


Have you spoken to the President or anyone from the Biden White House about what appears to be an imminent collision?


I have not, to be clear. I have spoken to the President about the border. I met him on a tarmac in El Paso and talked to him directly about what was going on. I handed him a letter that had in it immediate solutions he could take that would immediately secure the border without the need I have any new law to be passed. Despite the fact that I handed him altogether eight different letters, he has refused to ever respond. My point in telling you that we have laid down the precursor of what's called Article Section 4 of the United States Constitution to show that we have been invaded and we have demanded support from the President to safeguard our state, and they have refused to do so eight times. That authorized me to declare an invasion under Article 1, Section 10 of the Constitution to make sure that Texas is going to be able to use every tool in our arsenal to defend our state.


Of the couple of dozen Republican red states who pledge support for you, how many do you think would send National Guard to Texas?


I'll be shocked and disappointed if almost all of them do not send. There have been about 10 so far that have sent National Guard, or other law enforcement. They now are joined together with us, and this is a fight for the future of America, and they all know it. And so I believe that they will all be in on this effort.


It's just a remarkable moment, and I know you're heading out, but my final question is, how do you see this resolving? What happens next?


Well, Texas is going to continue to expand the border barriers that we are erecting, the razor wire that we're putting up, and to continue to gain control of more land over the coming month. I believe, however, that this will all come to an end on January the 20th of next year, because I believe a new president will be sworn in, a president who actually enforce the immigration laws of the entire country, not just the Texas border, but New Mexico and Arizona and California and the Canadian border also. We will have safe and secure borders once again, because we will have a president who actually will enforce the laws of the United States of America.


But in the next year, are you concerned about any conflict between state forces, whether state employees or National Guard and federal forces?


Tucker, all we can do is be as prepared as possible, deploy as many people as possible, do as much as possible to put up more border barriers, and deny illegal entry. Our head is down. We're working hard, regardless of what the Biden administration is doing.


Governor Greg Abbott of Texas, joining us now from India. Thank you very much, governor.


Thank you. Take care.


The state of Texas appears to be on a collision course with the Biden administration, with the federal government over the Southern border. Can it be protected or must the invasion continue? The Supreme Court has waited on this to some limited extent, but it hasn't solved the problem or answered the question. So what happens now? Things are moving very quickly, and it seemed like there was no one better to tell us what the future may hold than the attorney general of the state in question, Ken Paxton, who joins us now. Mr. Attorney General, thank you so much for coming on. So that's the question. Where does this go? It seems like there are two large forces speeding toward each other. No one's swerving. What happens, do you think?


I don't think anybody knows exactly what happened because we're in uncharded territory where we have a federal government that has largely not just ignored federal law, not just ignored their constitutional role to protect the state in the country, they're actually participating with the cartels and bringing people here as fast as they possibly can. I just don't think we've ever seen anything like this in our country where we have a federal government not just not doing their job, but affirmatively working bad people to do bad things to the country. I don't remember anything like this.


Can I just ask you to stop there? Since you're a law enforcement, you're the chief law enforcement officer of your state, can you assess whether what the Biden administration is doing now is, strictly Are they making criminal? Are they breaking the law in how they're handling the border?


I think they are. I mean, they're taking federal law and dismantling it. He has a constitutional duty to implement what has been put in place by the elected representatives. Yes. And he's just not doing that. And he's making up his own rules as we go that allow the cartels to gain a really strong foothold in the United States, not just in my state, but really across the... They're building a network across the country so that they can keep doing this well after Biden's gone.


So just to the next few days or weeks or months or who knows, the Biden administration has effectively threatened your state and said, You've got 24 hours to do something. What are they demanding that you do? And where does this go short term, do you think?


I'm not exactly sure what we're supposed to do. I mean, is it we're supposed to let them help them cut down wire and fences? We weren't ordered to do that by anybody that I know of. And so we have no obligation to help them violate federal law, and we're not going to do it. And I don't think Abbott is going to give in. I certainly don't plan on giving in. So they're pushing us to help them, and we're not going to help them violate federal law. We're going to try to defend our border the best we can with the resources we have. And my job is to do it in court. Abbott has other resources at his disposal, and I hope he uses every single one of them to stop this.


The governor, Greg Abbott, told us this morning from India that there are at least 10 states that have sent National Guard to Texas. Something like this ever happened in the last, say, 100 years that you're aware of?


I know that they've sent different states. I know Ron DeSantis has sent troops, and I believe Ducey, when he was in office, sent troops. But nothing to this scale. Nothing since the Civil War that I know such a conflict has existed between the federal government and the states. This is really new territory for us. I think it's new territory for anybody living because we have not seen this type of conflict between the federal government, basically ignoring all of their duties. I can't even imagine actually Texas, when it came into the Union, agreeing to come into the Union if they knew that the federal government wasn't going to defend the border. That would have never happened. I'm not sure there would have ever been a Constitution that was joined by states, if they ever thought that the federal government wasn't going to defend them, if they didn't, the states couldn't do anything about it. That doesn't make any sense.


Right. They didn't ever imagine that a dictator president would decide to change the population to win elections forever. I don't think that even entered their minds. So what would happen if Biden decides to, quote, federalize the National Guard of Texas?


Look, he can do that. Any president can do that. I think that that pretty much ends his election. Possibilities, not that they're that good now anyway, but this is becoming the number one issue. When you come into a state like Texas that I think people can clearly see we're just trying to protect ourselves from crime and terrorism and a lot of bad consequences. I don't think now these liberal sanctuary cities know the same problem. They've got just a little bit of what we have, and they know that this is real. So I think it's becoming more... Americans are becoming more aware. And I think if Joe Biden decides to force that onto us by taking over the National Guard, I think it's an automatic loss he's done. In some ways, we have to suffer with the consequences for a few months if he does that, which I still hope he doesn't. But in the end, he loses the election absolutely if he does Do you think it's possible that he will?


I mean, I guess it's possible to know, but what would you rate the likelihood?


I don't know. I mean, I don't really think Biden is thinking about this much. I think it's his handlers, whoever's behind the scenes making those decisions. Because if I knew who that was, I could probably better give you an answer. But I have no idea what he'll do because I don't think he knows what he's going to do. And after he's done, I'm not sure he even would recognize what he did. So if I knew who was making that decision, I could actually direct questions at him, or somebody could. I think that would be helpful. But we don't know who's running the country right now.


Yeah. No, I've never met someone who could answer conclusively who's in charge of the United States. Obviously, it's not him. So what does Texas, in the meantime, plan to do to secure the border? On behalf of the whole country, by the way, not just your state, but all of us, what are you going to do?


Yeah, we're fighting for our lives. We have several lawsuits. This one comes back to the Fifth Circuit. So we're back in court on this very issue of them cutting down our wire. So So it's not over. And I'm still hopeful that somewhere along the way, the Supreme Court will figure this out and realize the damage that they're creating for the states and the conflict that they're allowing between the federal government and the states that they should just not do. They should require that if there's federal law and there's a constitution, that it be enforced. But we have other cases that we're dealing with. We've got the Shelby Park case where we've taken control of that park, and I think the governor is just going to hold on to it. And I think we also have this March fifth date looming where we've already been sued by the federal government, by the ACLU, because the state has passed laws that go into effect in March, where we can deport people that are here illegally, and we're going to do it. So we've got a lot of conflict. We got the Bouies case, which is also up at the Fifth Circuit, which will be heard by the entire court, I think, in the coming months.


So there's numerous cases where the courts still have a chance to actually force the President to follow the Constitution and protect the American people.


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It sure looks like it. I think just the numerous incidences that we've tried to stop this legally, and they just keep changing up what they do. We'll win or we'll get some version of winning, and then they come back and try something else. I think he has become ultimately frustrated with this. Once he's resolute, I don't think he's backing down. I think he will fight this to the bitter end. And he realizes the consequences of us not doing that is we're going to lose American lives. We've got kids dying for fentanyl overdoses. We know that we've got people crossing the border that are terrorists, and we're not catching them. And we know that we're going to be dealing with the cost of this for decades. And it's insurmountable if we let this continue.


Yeah. So you mentioned a moment ago the cartels and their role in this. Can you expand on that? And I'm not sure most Americans understand the hold that drug and human trafficking cartels from Latin America now have in the US. What do you know about that?


I know that they have become significantly more powerful during the Biden administration because the money that they're making has massively increased from the time that Trump was in office because Trump was doing things like enforcing federal law that actually worked. And a lot of people say we need to fix our immigration system. Well, maybe we do, but we certainly need to enforce the laws we have. We know that it works because Trump did it. Since that time, the cartels have worked with the Chinese in importing fentanyl. We've lost thousands and thousands of kids and over 100,000 Americans to fentanyl overdoses, and they had no idea that they were taking fentanyl. The challenge that we have in front of us is we have the cartels making $10,000 to $12,000 a person. So the more people they bring into the country, the more money they make and the more they're able to build their network. And they're not going to want to give this up when they're making billions of dollars on drugs, human trafficking, sex trafficking, other crimes, and importing people. I think it's going to as they gain power and they gain more assets, that network is getting built out during Biden's administration, and the next President, hopefully Trump, is going to get stuck with dealing with that.


So you're the attorney general of one state out of 50. Merrick Garland is the attorney general of all 50 states. If you know this, he must know this. Why has Merrick Garland, apart from the obvious answer, he hates America, but why hasn't he done anything about this?


I think this is a plan. I mean, this is clearly a plan, right? This is a strategy. It's just like their election strategy. This is a strategy that started on day one when Joe Biden said, We're not going to deport anybody. And of course, he brought people in like Merrick Garland, who were fine with not enforcing federal law, who didn't care if the Constitution was honored by the President or him. And so their goal is simple. I think it's two They want more votes, and this is a way of getting them here. Then they want to give amnesty, and they are bringing them mostly to Republican States, and they also want to hurt Republican States, I believe, because there are costs associated with this. Right now in America, people are voting with their to eat. They're leaving California, Illinois, New York, and they're going to Florida, and they're going to Texas, and they're going to Tennessee. They're going to Republican States because it's a better life, and they don't have to deal with the higher taxes and the regulations, and they're going to have a better life for their families. So the Democrats realize this, Biden and his team realize this.


So part of the way of dealing with that is, well, let's just hurt Republican States. Let's bring more crime for them to deal with so it's less likely that people want to go there. Let's bring in more costs so they have to have higher taxes to pay for all this illegal immigration that they didn't ask for, but the federal government brought to them. So I think it's a two-fold strategy. Harm the Republican States, do as much damage, and if it means some kids die or some people die, they are willing to trade that to get the votes and the damage to Republican states. And people would say, How cynical. But I'm looking at what they're doing, not what they're saying.


In the 1980s, when I lived there, California was the richest state, the least corrupt state, had the best schools, the best roads. And now, of course, it's the most corrupt state, one-party state, and it's unlivable. And immigration did that. No other thing did that, just immigration. So why wouldn't that happen in Texas, which has been their goal from the beginning anyway?


It's going to happen. It's going to happen all over the country, particularly in the Republican States because that's where they're bringing most of the illegals. That is the strategy. Fill up the Republican States to deal with the problems, the crime, the costs. And then also, hey, there'll be more voters. They'll have kids. Those people will vote, and they presume that those votes will go their way. And that's the strategy, because if you turn this into, if you turn Texas and a few other states Democrat, we effectively are California. We have a one-party system where there's not accountability, there's not competition, there's not a way for the voters to change things if the system is rigged so that only one party is in power. And that is ultimately the strategy of the Democratic Party, create one party where the voters don't have a choice.


So I think what you're saying is factually supported. I mean this with respect, I think it's very obvious. Why is this so clear to you and not at all clear to, say, 95 % of Republican senators in Washington?


That's a good question. It seems so obvious to me. I don't know why it wouldn't be obvious to most of our leadership, but it's true even in Texas. We have a Texas house that is cooperating with the Biden administration to do a lot of bad things, including trying to impeach me. And I don't understand that either. But they're willing individually to, at least in the Texas house, sell out for power, for their own personal power, for their own personal benefit. Instead of doing things like protect the state on election integrity or the border or participate in things that really matter to voters, they're listening to the House Democrats who are directed by the Biden administration. And of course, our speaker ends up being elected by House Democrats. So there's a lot of infiltration. The Democrats have infiltrated the Republican Party, and they've been very smart about it. And even though we're a majority state of Republicans, they control the Texas House. And so I don't know if that's what's going on in Washington because I don't have as much time to pay attention to it. But it's very clear, and it should be very obvious to every American, let alone every Republican, that we are moving towards a one-party system, and that is the goal.


Is that the same speaker of the house in Texas who was videotaped drunk in the house?


Yeah, he's running for re-election. He's got a really great opponent, David Covey, and hopefully that guy will beat him We're also running a lot of challengers against some of these very bad Republicans, and we're hopeful that we'll have a lot of wins, enough wins that Dade Phelen won't be speaker, and we can hopefully have a Republican speaker elected by Republicans and not Democrats. That's where we're trying Someone who's not drunk on the job. Unfortunately, for the last 15 years, the Democrats have... Yeah, that guy, you saw him. I mean, it was clear where his priorities are. Out of control. Yeah, it's like a frat house down there.


And not in a fun way. Last question. I'm in Texas a lot. I have a lot of family who live there. And people I know who are in Texas every day say that it's very obvious just from living there, driving around there, that this invasion has degraded the quality of life in the Do you feel that?


Yeah. I mean, you feel it, especially in the large cities, but you could find other little cities that were overrun as well. But in Austin, I have to be there a lot. I live in more of the Dallas area. But in Austin, for sure, you see the crime, the fact that I don't really want to be downtown like I used to. I used to be downtown all the time because that's where the capital is. I find myself not feeling as safe because I know the crime rates are higher. Part of that is this huge problem with the illegal immigration. And that's true in, I think, a lot of our major cities here. And it's going to get worse. And my even bigger fear is this whole thing with these terrorist cells that I believe are being established now because we aren't controlling the border.


The schools and hospitals of Texas are paid for by American citizens, Texans, for their benefit. How could they possibly handle an influx of people this large? What's it like to go to the emergency room in San Angelo right now or San Antonio? What's that like?


I think especially a lot of these smaller hospitals are going out of business. They just can't afford the Medicaid the cost that they're incurring as a result of this illegal immigration problem. I think you're going to see more hospitals go out of business. I mean, you saw what happened in New York. They were clearing out a school so that illegals could come to school, and the kids that are from there can't even go. That's going to be more and more of a problem as these numbers continue to increase. We're going to all feel it, and it's just a matter of time before the entire nation directly feels this, and that's going to continue to grow.


Yeah. Well, there needs to be some very vigorous response to that because that's the destruction of our nation. So I appreciate. Kem Paxton, attorney general of Texas. Thank you for the time and for that explanation.


Hey, thank you.


Thank you. There's not one power center in this country, the media, the government at all levels and both parties. Big business. There's not one power center in the United States that would like to see secure borders. And so, of course, we haven't had secure borders, and now we're being invaded, and no one's really doing anything about it. So it was just a matter of time before citizens who love their country, in many cases, who have served their country overseas, decided to get a little more active in protecting their country. And that's why we're about to see the Take Our Border Back Convoy. It begins on January Truckers, bikers, anyone who wants to come and protect the United States and demand that our government secure a Southern border is welcome. They'll be driving to Texas, and one of the people who will help them navigate that state is Doc Pete Chambers. Chambers is, true to his title, a physician. He's a former Green Beret. He was recently down in Eagle Pass, Texas, and here's part of what he saw.


Doc Chambers from Eagle Pass, Texas. Today is the 18th of December. We're out here at the point of entry. Five thousand are sitting on the ground right now. It's increasing as we go along. Information that we've received says another seven thousand should be processed through this particular point by morning. Joe and I have been here many times. Last time we were down here, we were in uniform, and now I'm a civilian in the army of God. So we'll keep telling truths, and you need to get this video to your legislators. Chambers, and tell them, in the state of Texas, particularly, this is out of control.


So not surprisingly, Doc Pete Chambers has been attacked by dying legacy media outlets as a deeply scary person. Because your country being invaded is not scary. It's all totally normal. We thought it would be worth talking to Doc Pete Chambers about what he expects to happen with this convoy and his role in it. He joins us now. Doc Chambers, thank you so much for coming on.


It's great to be here, Tucker.


So what can we expect with this convoy? Can you describe what it is and what its purpose is?


Right. This is a peaceful assembly. This is what we do as Americans. This is how we shed light to a subject. This shedding of the light will result in exposing, really, what an open border policy looks like. We know the problem sets in Texas. But literally, I promise you this, that miles north of that border, there will be people that will never have heard of the border problem because they just watch mainstream media. So this is what that is about.


Can you tell us the root of the convoy and who you expect to join it?


Right. So right now, they're going to be leaving out on the 29th Virginia Beach, which is where the 1607 covenant, the landing, which signified the John Smith landing in 1607, where they planted a cross on the beach. They said, Hey, This is a covenant to this nation, to God. Then they're going to leave from there, and they're going to go down through Florida. They're going to cut across Highway 10 through Louisiana, Baton Rouge, Houston, into Dripping Springs, Texas, where I'll be working out of, and then on to near Eagle Pass. Now, I'm part of the advisory of this. As I advise, I used to be in that same unit that's down there. That's the unit that has a streamer on it from the Alamo. It's a very historic Texas unit. They are down there holding the line. I know those soldiers. I worked with them. I took care of them as a doctor with Operation Lone Star. They're busy. The convoy is going to go just a little bit shy, just a little bit to the north, really, in an area about 30 miles away in Qumado, Texas, to a children's camp, a beautiful lady down there who has taken care of orphans and widows.


You can't write this stuff in a book. I couldn't make this up. But she was overrun, first of all, by the COVID mandates that said, You got to shut down. You can't keep running this shelter, number one. Number two, she was overrun by the numbers of volumes of illegals that were coming through her neighborhood, trying to get into her food pantry. Then number three, the cartels are a significant presence in that area because that is the end point of where they do the end around. We are looking at the bright, shiny object that is Eagle Pass. That's a bright, shiny object. Look here. The droids that you're not looking for, if you will, are just to the north, right in that location. What this is going to do is it's going to bring light to it because we have to understand there is a Constitution, both state and federal, and that we have to, number one, expose those that argue things in the Gaelian dialectics, if you will, of tort law and look at the Constitution, which is exactly what this is a focus on the Constitution, we the people. That's why we the people will be riding along mama bears, cops, veterans, truckers, and going to that location to bring light.


There is nothing I'm nefarious about this. Matter of fact, I am suggesting to them that they, and they know this, they know this, that this is a peaceful demonstration. This is how this would be.


Who's paying for this? I assume George Soros is not the private equity oligarchs and the hedge fund manager is probably not sending cash to finance this whole thing. Is it self-financed?


This is self-financed. This is give, send, go. If you go to the take ourborderback. Com website, there's a way to find that. But this is unlike what I saw on the border, and I can tell you who all the actors are with that, and it would be a longer discussion of where that money comes from. Perhaps we should. Perhaps we should go to Mexico first and drive across the border at the point of entry and just say, Hey, we need one of those bags of cash that you're giving out to the illegal folks.


Who's giving those bags of cash out, do you think?


Well, it's many in different ways, but sometimes through charities, when they do get to the US side, sometimes UNESCO, a UN organization under the IOM, who is going to hand them a card, really, it's a debit card, with a phone, and that is funded illegally through the United States back channel into UNESCO. That money has been tracked, and we know about this. We have the receipts on it, and it'll just take time to keep elucidating those that aren't listening in DC.


I'm a little confused, though. I mean, if you If you're an armed robbery and I drive you from the liquor store to my house and put you up for that, I'm an accessory to your crime and I can be arrested. If there are UN officials abetting crimes against the United States, why aren't they in prison? Why aren't they arrested immediately?


Exactly. If there are people that have taken an oath to the Constitution who are also in that line of decision-making processes, the US Constitution says this, and this is why I know that everyone in the government should agree with me, the same oath that I took, they took. If they don't follow that, they're either aiding a betting, they are treasonous, or it is dereliction of duty. So, yeah, there's a lot of things that should be accountable. And that is one of the things that we're seeking, is you got to shed light on it to get the accountability.


I'm really struck as I watch massive protests in Europe against the carbon tyranny by farmers, for example, in Germany. We don't have anything like that here. We haven't had a large scale protest against the people in charge since January sixth, over three years ago. And that, of course, was the point of persecuting the innocent that day, was to stop future protests. And it's worked. Are you concerned that this protest is ripe for subversion by the intel agencies, by the Biden administration, and that you'll be persecuted in the way that the January sixth protestors were?


I'm I'm not concerned in a sense for personal concern, but I'm concerned that a bad light would be shed prior to. It already has, and that's okay. People have a right for that. We fought for that. But it's not okay to disparage something that is That it has a really peaceful intent. But understand this, that because of comfort in this country, sometimes people don't stand up for what they believe is right. That's a sin of omission. That's just as bad as being a perpetrator, to me, in my personal opinion. When I took off my uniform and left, and I say this, I'm in the army of God, there is no club. I think that they're trying to think there's an army of God. They're going through the books right now trying to figure out where are these guys at. This is just a figurative speech because I don't worry about what man thinks about me. I adhere to the law and I take care of those that are oppressed. That's what a green brave does. I didn't take off the uniform and just say, Well, now I'm just going to go willy-nilly. It didn't change my character.


I'm not worried about what those people think. Let me explain a little story. This is an interesting one. You're going to like this. In Del Rio, Texas, about a year and a half ago, 17,000 Haitians showed up at that bridge. I don't know if you remember them under the bridge, and they were kawaling them under. We were? Right. I was in the chopper when we showed up, got on the ground, 50 National Guards, probably about 25 DPS guys, troopers, and maybe about 15, 20 Custom Border Patrol. Now, my dog and myself held him off for about a 12 hours on the border just barking, right? Because we're getting overwhelmed. But at some point they had to say, All right, we got to let them in. They're just coming across. That was the same time that that horse-whipping thing, he had the split reins. It looked like he was whipping. He wasn't. He was 400 meters away from me. That just was a camera shot. But here's what happens. Now we set it up. We got things under control. We're in an operations tent. Here comes the FBI and they come busting in, and I'll never forget it.


A lady comes in wearing a Hillary Clinton pantsuit and says, Hey, there's There's a white supremacist group out here, and they're on the list. I said, Well, who are they? She said, This particular organization, don't remember, they were there providing sandwiches to us guys that were out there working all night and all day. They were actually a Hispanic group from McAllen. Sometimes they might be a little wrong, but I think that the danger in this is those media sources that are actively provoking to do what's a globalist agenda the two separate Americans does that. They act on it because it's a story, right? But they take the story instead of doing their own homework, they take that and come in and try to set the narrative with those of us on the tactical level on the ground. We just laughed at her and said, Okay, thanks. Here's the flyer. God, go get a sandwich from one of the supremacists.


To the liberal white lady mind, everyone they disagree with this white supremacist. Just interested, whatever happened to those 17,000 Haitians who stormed in our country illegally? Great question. Are they back in Haiti?


Well, Senior Mayorkas, he said that that was going to happen, and that's not what happened because we followed the tail numbers. The planes went to... Some of them flew out of Lafflin Air Force Base, which is a United States Air Force Base close to Del Rio. Some of them got on busses. The first or second bus that lit out of Ego Pass, I'm sorry, out of Del Rio, they overtook the bus driver and disappeared into the periphery of Texas. And they ratted up a few of them.


What do you mean they overtook the bus driver?


They used force and stopped the bus driver and got off the bus and took off.


Then why aren't they in prison? I mean, what is this? I'm sorry to interrupt your story.


That's nuts. No, this is our life down here. This is what we see. It's ridiculousness. For me, I'm not surprised by any of this, particularly that night, that video that you played, that was 18 December. That ended up being about 12,500 But the rest of the story, about 3,000 of them went to the Civic Center in San Antonio, and that ended up being a job fair for the cartel. We followed them, we as citizens, and figured out what they were doing was the cartel guys would drive up, and then they would... It was like a hiring frenzy, like something on LinkedIn, but it was there in the civic center. We are aiding and abetting an invasion, not only on the border, but every state is a border state at this point.


It's hard to comprehend that no one's done anything about this for three years, and it'll be a completely different country in a decade because of this, and not a better one. Let me ask, you often hear this migrant wave described as, quote, military-age males. You spent a lot of time there. What percentage would you say are military-age males?


That has changed. It predominantly was family units. When I was down there a year and a half ago, a year ago. The 22nd of May was my last day in uniform last year. Now, it is about 60%, and I'll just give you the numbers from that particular night on December the 18th, about 60% male. This particular group was primarily out of Venezuela. But when I get information that comes up to the border, because we have people all the way down into the Darian Gap that report to us, these are just citizens, former military guys, and they tell us what's going on, the next wave is going to be Yemenis. Think about this. They're bombing Yemen right now. The next thing you do is get displaced persons, just like they did in Hottelot, Rukhban camps in the Syrian Jordan border. But Jordan sent them up through Europe. These are coming straight to the Darian Gap and coming to us. So yes, there are more Fighting Age males now per capita Because of the fact that, my opinion, most dangerous course of action, most likely, this is the spectrum, I have to think about the most dangerous.


It's to destabilize this country. This is a Marxist technique. This could be mixed in with a little bit of Clouard-Piven doctrine. This could be mixed in with a little bit of Saul Linsky to create a need for us to have the government save us. We're from the government. We're here to help you. All right? Well, no, because your tweet that you asked out there, I'm going to quote it, Where are the Texans? I'm sitting there screaming, We're right here, and come and get on a horse, and we'll show you. But we, the people, are going to expose these things because we have to. This is our backyard. There's nothing humanitarian about this. But we have to make sure that our legislators understand because I've lost a lot of faith. I still have faith in a few. They have to understand that they have to adhere to that same oath, and many of them don't have an oath. We've done some for us and found that out as well. It's pretty interesting in the Biden administrations, particularly.


I think most people, and I'm sure you're in this group, would like to live in a country where the government that they hire and pay for solves these problems, like securing the against invasion, but they're not, and so citizens are stepping into the breach. Do you have any hope that Governor Greg Abbott of Texas will change his long-standing policy of supporting open borders and really crack down? Do you think it's real?


Since I've been on the border, I've done numerous talks on the optics and the reality of Operation Lone Star since I got out, because I had to start telling the truth because I just couldn't stand that what we were doing was 90% optics and 10% reality in stopping anything. We counted a lot of heads and we apprehended, if you will, the numbers on a piece of paper. Now there is a constitutionally written document that came out the 24th, not two days ago, that is constitutionally driven. I love it. But we have to look at the way that they were arguing in court. This is where I want the citizens to do their part. It's to talk to AG Paxton, who I admire and I've had discussion with, and say, you can't use tort law in the Fifth Circuit amicus brief, exactly. If you look at the references, they didn't use the Constitution. They used tort law, case law. That's never going to fly because the job of the federal government is to provide security for this nation, period. Once again, I said we agree that the oath is an oath. If you agree on that, then you're going to be guilty of treason.


If you know that this is an invasion, it is. I mean, how many deaths of Americans, sometimes, and this is going to be ugly, but hack to death. We've heard of stories that raped by illegals coming in, doing this. How many warrants this invasion. At what point do we say this is enough?


Really amazing. Last question for you, Dr. Chambers. Is your expectation that this will proceed peacefully, and will it end here? I mean, if Abbott, who clearly has been committed to open borders, in effect, if not in word, if he doesn't secure the Texas border, what happens next?


Well, there has to be some teeth in this declaration of the emergency. He hasn't declared an emergency border invasion. We have to declare the cartels actually terrorist organizations, foreign terrorist organizations, transnational criminals, and then we have to go after that. Because until we do that, there's no teeth in this. There's none right now. It'll be us standing the line protecting our individual properties, which we have a right to, but it's not how it be. As far as the convoy, it's going to go over fine, and there's going to be those naysayers. I'm not worried about that. We don't put our worries in that.


Yeah. Well, I hope they don't infiltrate it like they did January sixth and make you look like terrorists. They may. So God speed. Dr. Pete Chambers, thank you very much for joining us. I appreciate it.


Yes, sir.