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That's Rob Reiner. Rob called me, Soledad O'Brien, and asked me what I knew about this crime.

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On March 16th, 2000, two sheriffs deputies were shot in Atlanta. A Muslim leader and former black power activist was convicted. But the evidence was shaky and the whole truth didn't come out during the trial. My name is Moses Secret. When I started investigating this case in my hometown, I uncovered a dark truth about America. From Tenderfoot TV, campside Media, and iHeart Podcasts, Radical is available now. Listen to the new podcast, Radical, for free on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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People always accused of friendship being elitist. I'm going to list a few things, and I want you to say which country does them the best. Wine.

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Friends.

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Cheese. Friends. Fashion.

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Friends.

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Comedy.

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Friends. Oh, shut.

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The fuck up.

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No, US. Us.

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No, US. Shut the fuck up. Tosh. Tosh. Tosh. Tosh. Tosh. Welcome to Tasho. I'm your host, Daniel Tash. This is exciting. This is the fourth episode. Can you believe it, Eddie? We've done four already.

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It's great.

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It's great. How many do we have to do until somebody comes call and says, Listen, we want to buy this show outright and give you 500 billion dollars. So here we are with our fourth episode, and the feedback has been overwhelmingly negative in person. Online, I'm told the feedback has been pretty positive, but to my face, a lot of family members have not appreciated some of the comments that I've made.

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I got to tell you, the comments on YouTube, overwhelmingly positive.

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Comments on YouTube, overwhelmingly positive. Oh, man, I hope that translates into ad dollars and subscriptions. I'm told that's very important. I got to set a few things straight. I shot a handful of these interviews before the first one aired, so I'm still working things out. I don't read a lot of the comments because they depressed me. But actually, I should take time out to hear what the fans of this show are saying. So, Eddie, you've gotten a few selects? I do. All right, let's read some of these.

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My new favorite podcast. Keep it going.

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I don't even want to be anyone's favorite podcast. There's so many great podcasts out there. My goal is to skyrocket in your top five. I'll be honest, top 10 is plenty good enough. But you're going to learn one day that having everything that you could ever want isn't that great. All right, what else? What are these people saying? Let's go. Give me another one.

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All right, a little late to the game, son.

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Yeah, that's the genius behind me. I like to wait till everybody's sick of a genre, and then I go full bore.

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The King is back.

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That's from Theo Vaughan. That's nice. Now, there's somebody. It's like somebody's number one podcast. That's fine. He can be your number one. And then me, four, five, or six.

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Bro, this is dope. I'm so glad you're back. Already subbed and liked. Keep up the.

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Funny shit. Well, I'm glad you subbed. Keep subbing.

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Call it Tash Point Show.

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Tash Point Show was too close for the lawyers to feel comfortable.

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Please change the intro, please.

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I don't like the intro either. I just heard it the other day. Man, that's bad. So I'm sure we'll use it for a year.

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This is great. Should just maybe keep off the editing for a more organic feel, though.

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You guys are editing me? I'm just now finding this out.

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Tone down on the editing. For real, this is a podcast. Let it flow naturally. Deadair is perfectly acceptable. Save the super editing for the.

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Youtube shorts. Deadair is perfectly acceptable. Let's put that to the test. Was that enjoyable? I'll tell you another reason I need an editor is because I'm not afraid to say things into a microphone that's being recorded. I need someone to be the adult in the room. Like just the other day, I was trying to explain my least favorite race of people, and that's why they're my least favorite.

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Next comment, really don't like the producer voice-over-chime-ins. Just going to put that out there.

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I don't like him either.

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He didn't give her anything from his house. It was a good streak while it lasted.

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Guys, there's going to be a few episodes where they don't get a gift because I didn't start doing the gift until the fourth or fifth interview.

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This is needed. I like Tash point out, but when Tash isn't being forced by network to pump outrageous comments every line that feels way more genuine while still being hilarious. I could watch him talk to his landlord for-.

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Hold on. First of all, it's insane how long this thing is. I'm not going to let you finish it. In what world would I have a landlord? Do you have any idea how many properties I own?

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I'd actually love to see Tash talk to some comedians.

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That's pretty good. If no one's done that, I think we should try that.

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I assume there's got to be a writing team behind this, right? No way he's coming up with all these non-sequesters by himself. Great show.

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I think he meant sequiturs, Eddie. The team of people that create this show is three people. It's Eddie who pitches me nonsense all day long. Then there's John and Pete, three white, middle-aged, married men that were blackballed from comedy. That's not true. But they are white. That part is true. They're very white. Too white, if you ask me. John is definitely too white. John is too white. He's pale and he's from Ohio.

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I'm not a fan of the stained gray wood borders on the videos. I suggest consulting a second or third marketing branding graphics company to redefine the vibe of your.

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Creative look. I would recommend you unsubscribe. Is there an unsubscribe button?

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Border needs to go. Full screen, please. Annoying, distracting, unnecessary.

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Okay, so there's two votes.

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Border is annoying.

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Oh, that's three.

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It's up with the weird border.

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I'm telling you, I'm going to have to turn the comments off.

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Tash is back. So happy, but please get rid of the weird panel border.

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What if we started putting ads, like a crawl that went around the border the whole way, or more information or jokes in the border then? Maybe people would like it then?

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Amazing you're back. Get rid of the border around the screen, though.

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Be careful or I'll make the goddamn frame bigger.

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Really dig the picture frame border for the show. Makes me feel like I'm back in my childhood bedroom watching Tash Point O.

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There's one for they like the border. The border stays.

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If Tash still drives a Subarue, then we can expect the same above average content as Tash Point O.

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I do still drive a Subarue. Subarue, I'm still driving one. I don't drive an Outback anymore. I have the Ascent, three rows because I've got a family. I also drive a Rivian. Rivian, are you a sponsor? You should be. Go ahead and sponsor the show, Rivian.

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Hey, Tash, great show, but can we get this shot in 4K?

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I don't know. Can we shoot this in 4K? We shoot it in 6K. We shoot it in 6K.

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I hope he comes back to stand-up to show these goofballs.

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What's up. I have never stopped doing stand-up comedy. I do tons of stand-up comedy. I'll be honest with you, it's gotten so much better. My comedy is so much better than it used to be. It's so much richer.

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Can I invest in this? Tosh is going to be greater than Joe Regan.

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No.

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Last.

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Comment. Last comment already?

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Yeah. Three episodes in, and this is officially my favorite comedian podcast. The format, the guests, the length, the hilarious yet insightful interviews. Everything is just perfect.

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All right, the show is perfect. Let's get on with it. Today's guest is no exception. He's also perfect. He's one of my closest friends, but he's foreign. Boom. I knew that was going to get some of you. I love foreigners. They think me needling them is me just being direct because every other country that's not the US is rude as shit. All that being said, I'm proud to call this Frenchies are to me. Enjoy.

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The assassination of President John F. Kennedy is the greatest murder mystery in American history.

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That's Rob Reiner. Rob called me, Soledad O'Brien, and asked me what I knew about this crime. I know 60 years later, new leads are still emerging. To me, an award-winning journalist, that's the making of an incredible story. On this podcast, you're going to hear it told by one of America's greatest storytellers.

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We'll ask who had the motive to assassinate a sitting President.

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My dad thought JFK screwed us at the Bay of Pigs, and then he screwed us.

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After the Cuban missile crisis. We'll reveal why Lee Harvey Oswalt isn't who they said he was. I was under the impression that Lee was being trained for a specific operation. Then we'll pull the curtain back on the cover up. The American people need to know the truth.

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Listen to Who Killed JFK on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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On March 16th, 2000, two sheriff's deputies were shot in Atlanta. Jamil Al-Amin, a Muslim leader and former black power activist, was convicted. But the evidence was shaky and the whole truth didn't come out during the trial. My name is Mosie Secret. When I started investigating this case in my hometown, I uncovered a dark truth about America.

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He said to me, You want me to.

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Take care of them for not doing something to pain you or something like that? I said, No, what are you talking about? But I had.

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No idea who he had become.

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That's how he approached you? You know what he meant when he said that.

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Yeah, I'm thinking.

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Murder in a minute.

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I think that's what he was thinking too. From Tenderfoot, TV, Campside Media, and iHeart Podcasts, Radical is available now. Listen to the new podcast, Radical, for free on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Pasha. My guest today is France's greatest gift to America since the Statue of Liberty. He's a beautiful French man living in Los Angeles. I've known him for many years and I still have no idea how he affords to live in my neighborhood. He's my only friend who's never been on my payroll. He texts me more than my wife. Please welcome, Pierre.

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Hello.

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Daniel. Thank you. Pierre, how many times a day do you think you text me?

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Well, at least when I wake up, the first person I text a few times in the morning after lunch, after my nap, and at night, it's a good night.

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I wish you were joking. You're not joking. When I text you that we're going to go surfing, but I have to poop first, how long does that mean?

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Well, you spend a lot of time on the chair. How long? Yeah, well, you go a few times a day because I feel like every time I text.

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You, you poop. No, before I surf, I make sure I poop because I have to go. At least 20 minutes. Fair enough. This is the first question I ask all my guests. Do you believe in ghosts? No. That's right. No, don't say anything else. Just shut the fuck up. You don't believe in ghosts. Right, exactly. I knew. And to be honest with you, when I asked you that question right there, I wasn't sure how you were going to answer it. But then as soon as you said no, I was like, Good. Thank God. I've known Pierre for many years. We met surfing. You're obviously not from California. You're from France. What part of France are you from?

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I'm from the north. I'm from a little place called Digullville. It's 200 people in Normandy.

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Tiny place. Your parents still live there? Yeah, they're still there.

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It's beautiful. It's nice.

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It's quiet. You live in a castle?

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My grandma, she has like a old castle.

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How long have you lived in America?

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14.

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Years. 14 years, really?

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Yeah. I've been knowing you for 10, maybe.

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At least? Yeah. Where did you live before America?

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I spent one year in Australia.

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That's how you learned English?

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I actually learned English mostly. My roommates in France, because I live down south, were from England. So he taught me a lot of English and bad words.

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What bad words?

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Can I say that here?

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You can say whatever word you want to say.

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Cunt.

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Cunt? They taught.

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You the word cunt.

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Holy shit.

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When.

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Did you learn fuck? Did you learn that right away?

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Fuck yes.

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Pretty popular. Very popular. Do people say it in France?

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No, but we have a school we said that it's called La FAC. It's after when you graduate from college, you go to... Before you go to FAC, it's F-A-C, I think. So we call it La FAC. But English people say it's fuck.

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You went to college for agriculture?

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Yeah, I study farming. I study farming until I was 16. But around 16, I was sick of it because I had to wake up early and wake up at 5:00 and the cow keep pooping on my face because you have to get the milk from under.

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I don't think you have to put your face underneath it.

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Yeah, you're under. You have to walk from under. Okay. And then I went to gardening. I did some gardening for a long time.

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Yeah. No, I knew that you knew gardening and everything.

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Like that. Yeah, farming and gardening. I forgot. I forgot everything, actually.

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It's weird that you say that you didn't like waking up early because the reality is you and I get up earlier than everyone I know.

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Yeah, we go surfing.

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Right, we like to surf early. But in general, we're always up 5:36.

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I.

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Met you surfing and you're with your beautiful girlfriend. I loved her so much more than you did.

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Yeah, that's why you stopped talking to me because you always talk.

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To her. Yeah, I did. I was still in a relationship. I wasn't married at the time, but I was in a relationship. And she was wonderful. And you don't like her. You didn't like her very much.

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We.

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Don't talk. What's your deal? You live in a neighborhood full of elitist assholes like myself, Jeff Bezos, the King of Jordan, all these people living. And then you, you found this weird little nook in Malibu. Why did you come there?

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Well, at first I was for surfing and I was peaceful. I'm trying to find some rich woman. I did say that for you.

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That was your goal?

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No, it wasn't my goal, but I've had a story with a rich woman there.

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That.

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You lived with? Maybe I didn't tell you.

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I've heard many of your stories. You've slept with tons and tons of people. I'm going to give you a number. You tell me over or under in your lifetime.

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The woman I slept with?

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-i'm going to say a number. I don't know. I didn't count. I know you don't count. I'm going to say 100, over or under.

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Maybe, I don't know, maybe more.

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Okay. Yeah. All right, that's good. Now, how did you become an American citizen? Your first attempt to become an American citizen? Oh, it's a long story. Oh, yes, but it's a good one. I married my friend. You married a friend? You had to be married for two years to become a citizen.

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Yeah, but the funny story is so I never kiss my wife.

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You never kissed her.

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I never slept with her. But some of my friends did.

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Your friends slept with.

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Your wife? Yeah, my friend.

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There's a word for that.

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I can maybe sleep with my wife because I did, and in the butt.

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Oh, you did. That's nice. You have to be married for two years to be able to say. And then at a year and a half, she tells you, Hey, I fell in love with this guy and I'm going to get married, so I have to divorce you right before you became a citizen. Were you upset with her when she called off your marriage?

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A little bit. But at the same time, I couldn't go that far if she wanted there. So I had mixed feelings. I was a bit upset. But at the same time, if she didn't propose to me to get married at first, I won't be here anyway. But now we're all good.

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How did you become a citizen then? Then you did the proper way.

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When I got my green card, finally I got my green card. After a couple of years, you can become a citizen. And at the time, I had on those apps, the dating app, and I met a girl on the dating app and had some fun with her and asked her, What do you do for a living? And she said, I'm an immigration lawyer.

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What are the odds of this?

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And I said, Can I have a little gift? Can I get a budget for my welcoming to the US? And she said, Yeah, of course. So I got my citizenship and a little gift.

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And a gift?

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Yeah.

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How come your immigration photo, when you became a citizen, how come WeMan was in your photo?

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Because he's a fan of a friend and he's actually a very nice guy. He wanted to be there. He wanted to...

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He was insane. To shoot Paul. That's insane. Makes no sense to me whatsoever. Do you know who Cato Kaley is? Who? Cato Kaley. Do you know who O. J. Simpson is?

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That was a baseball.

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Player, no? Baseball player? No, no. He was a football player. And he murdered two people. Okay. Do you remember that? No. You don't remember that? No. Wait, he had a person that lived in his guest house, Kado Kalan. It's like you. He was real popular. He had a moment.

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I don't want to kill anybody.

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No, you're not the person that killed. I would be the person that would kill in this scenario, and then you're the person that lives in the guest house. Have you always lived in guest houses?

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Yeah, actually, since I'm in the US, yeah.

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How old are you?

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I just turned 45.

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45. But you've lied about your age before.

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Actually, I did. Yeah. How do you know?

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Well, I was just-The song? -the song. That's right. Some girl wrote a song about you.

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That's true. Did you love it that she wrote a song about you because you're.

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Such an ego maniac? I was surprised. No, I was very fluttered. But then it was-I find out randomly I open internet and I saw that song and I listen the lyrics. I was like, Damn, it sounds like it's about me.

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But.

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I-what's called Pierre. Yeah.

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Was that the first clue? And you were dating the person that wrote it.

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How.

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Many times did you listen to the song?

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A million times. How is.

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Dating in L. A? Do you like dating in Los Angeles?

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The girls are beautiful, but it's just the game. It's taking them on the date and paid for everything. It's different than France. Here, it's like they expect and you have some pros. They say, Oh, let's go to a restaurant. And they pick up the most expensive restaurants. That's annoying.

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So it's just about paying for a meal that bothers you?

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Yeah. I mean, it's just the whole process. They have games. Some girls are really good at it.

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Do you ham up the French shit?

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No, I mean, it depends. But the French accent can help on when it's a tricky situation. I don't understand.

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Are you on dating apps?

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All of them.

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What's your favorite app?

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A little stupid.

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Is abortion legal in France?

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Yeah.

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You ever paid for an abortion? No. Is that one of the things that bothers you about American women? They expect you to pay for them. Do you think French people, in general, are a little bit more homophobic and racist than Americans. Go ahead.

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No, I mean, the gay community is pretty big in France. Maybe I didn't tell you, but I used to be bartender in a gay club. And I had a cage. I was a.

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Cage dancer. You're a cage dancer? I didn't know about the.

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Cage dancing. I had a cage. The place called Freedom Coffee. I was 19 or 20, and I wanted to make some money for the summer to travel. I told my friend, Can I walk in your coffee? We were opening at 6:00 PM until 2:00 AM.

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That's a lot of dancing.

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A lot of dancing. We closed for a few hours and we reopened for breakfast from 5:00 AM to 11:00 AM in the morning. A lot of dancing.

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So you're saying because you were a cage dancer, you personally could never be homophobic?

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No, I mean, no.

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Did you make great money?

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No, we don't tip in France.

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What's the point of being a cage dancer then?

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Because the girls who want to be safe, they go to a gay club.

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Oh, so you were still in your own homophobic mind being like, I'm dancing for women at this gay club. See, here's what I think. Most of my friends I find are foreign. And I think that's because whenever I hang out with somebody that's American, as soon as they rub me the wrong way with the way they think about something like that, it immediately makes me put a wall up. But with foreign people, I always assume there's a language barrier or there's something else. And so I turn a blind eye to some of the negative stuff. I think that might be another reason that I enjoy hanging out with foreigners is because for the most part, you don't find me funny. So I find it challenging sometimes to make you laugh. But I also noticed that when you insult me, I feel like I'm going back to the seventh grade where it's really a juvenile insult. You constantly like to make fun of my legs.

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You have got nice legs. Yeah. Sometimes I don't understand you joke, but I understand you body language. The stuff you move or you do sometimes it's funny.

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So you know that it's a joke just by my body language?

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Yeah, like the way you move or you act.

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What's wrong with my legs? Do you think they're just too thin?

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The.

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Proportion. The proportions are wrong.

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You have a long.

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Body, long-Torso? -torso. -torso is this part. -no, the top.

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Of the leg.

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Okay, just the thigh.

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-thigh is long. From the knee to the-The foot? -foot, it gets tiny. When you walk, it's funny. That's not true. It is true.

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It's not true. I'll let anyone size me. I guarantee I'm completely proportionate.

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The best part is when you run, it takes a different approach of running. What does that mean? I don't know. You run funny. I saw you running the other day on the beach. I couldn't believe that it was you. I was like, It's not Daniel, you can run.

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Oh, because I.

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Can run. Then you got closer like, Oh, yeah, it's Daniel.

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You still play the lottery every week?

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It's three times a week.

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You play it three times a week? Yeah. People always accused the French of being elitist. I'm going to list a few things, and I want you to say which country does them the best? Food.

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France.

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You think so? It's not true.

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What's the best?

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Italy.

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No.

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Are you kidding me?

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No. All the best chefs are in France.

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I don't know that that's true. All right. Wine.

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France.

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Cheese. France. Fashion.

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France.

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How about art? Art?

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France, Italian. Some good arts.

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Comedy.

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France.

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I don't know.

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Oh, shut the fuck up.

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No, US. No, US. No one ever thinks comedy thinksYeah, we have.

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Good movies. France has good movies.

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I know a movie that you love. Huh? Here's a movie that you think is so funny, and I don't understand why you think it's that one. Which one? Three Billboards.

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Oh, I love that movie. Yeah, it's a.

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Good movie. What's your favorite? What's your favorite movies?

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I thought Forest.

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Gump was good.

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Okay. Fly Above Cuckoo's Nest.

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That's good as well. These are all classics. All right, what about American sports? You really get upset with me during football season.

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Yeah, I don't get it. And you spend hours watching this.

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It bothers you. It makes you mad.

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I don't know. There's no action.

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Hey, what's your favorite college football team?

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Notre Dame.

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And it's only your favorite because...

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Because I.

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Can understand. Because Notre Dame is Notre Dame. So you think that it has some correlation with France.

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You watch a lot of.

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Basketball as well. I love basketball.

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I'm a bit more into basketball.

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What's your favorite team?

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What is the one against the Lakers?

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Against the Lakers? Any team that they're playing? No, the Clippers. You like the Clippers?

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I like the Clippers.

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Oh.

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It's nice. Because my friend gets annoying.

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I hate the Lakers. I always root against the Lakers.

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Oh, yeah, you like the one, the Dolphins?

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Well, yes, I do like the Dolphins. They're football. They're in football? Yeah. And then the basketball team is the Miami Heat.

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Miami Heat. Yeah. You like tennis as well? You watch the tennis? I love tennis.

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I love tennis. I'm a Rolandaros. I conceived my son.

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At Rolandaros. That's right. Yeah. I mean, that's right.

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I don't know, but... The red clay of Rolandaros. That's just fun to say. My daughter looks a lot like you.

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Yeah, I noticed. I didn't want to tell you, but I noticed.

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Have you ever had sex with my wife? Yes or no? No. Here's a quiz about France. You want to hear a quiz? Yeah. When did France last execute someone by guillotine? Ready? Here's your choices: 1795, 1863, or 1977?

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The second one.

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Nope, 1977.

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-by guillotine? -yeah. Damn, I should bring this back. Is it?

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Yeah, according to this... I mean, it's Eddie. -eddie, is that true?

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-eddie.

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Yeah, it's true. -it's true.

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It's radical.

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How much French do I know? What's the one thing I'm.

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Not allowed to say? I taught.

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You a couple of words. Saba, that's it.

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No, when I say, bonjour to you, you say.

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I say, Saba. Perfect. That's all I ever say. I can remember my French class going, taxi, taxi.. Something like that. I remember that. Yeah, it sounds good.

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You say that to a girl in the water and yeah, that was intense.

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I said that to somebody in the water? Oh, but we didn't tell her what it meant.

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No, but she figured.

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No, she.

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Didn't figure. I think she went on the.

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Internet after. How dare you? She never figured. You banged a grandma in our neighborhood. I banged what? You had sex with a grandma in our neighborhood? Probably Remember that one language? You know what I'm talking about.

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Yeah, I remember. Yeah.

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You banged a grandma, you banged my kids teacher, and you banged tons of Russians.

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Russians? Yeah, but I mean, Russians, it's difficult.

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What do you mean?

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Because they're very expensive.

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I didn't.

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Know that. They like the money. Sometimes I can't afford a house, so to get those girls on date, it's sometimes difficult.

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Are you dating someone right now?

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Yeah.

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Are you in love, Pierre?

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I don't know. I could be.

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All right. Would you ever get married?

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I don't think so. I don't know.

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Do you want to have kids someday? I don't think so. Why?

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I don't know. Because I need to text you to go surfing anytime.

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I know, but it'd be fun. It'd be fun to see you as a dad. Your president was 15 when he met his wife, who was 40. Just wanted you to know that.

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Mccrown. Mccrown, yeah. His wife's older.

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Yeah, he was 15 when he met her. She was 40 at the time.

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Because he was his teacher.

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That's who your President is. Did you ever smoke?

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Yeah.

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Everyone in France smokes.

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I mean, smoke, like when I was partying.

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Do you still smoke?

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No.

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You have a problem with alcohol, don't you? Go ahead. Talk about that.

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I like to party. I haven't drink for six months.

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I know. Did you do better with women when you were drinking than you are sober?

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Maybe for the approach, yeah. You have more game when you're drunk.

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What are your favorite other drugs? Marijuana? You like marijuana? No.

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No, I was drinking.

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Only drinking? Yeah. You've always worked in, since I've known you, fashion.

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Women's swimwear and lingerie. Lingerie? Lingerie. We just launched a lingerie.

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You make lingerie even sound sexier by saying leisureie. So every interview I give the guest on the show a gift. It's just something from my house that I want to get rid of. Okay. I know you are. I know. I always try to think of something that they would want. Okay, so here's what I got you. I got you a bunch of my really nice sweaters because I know you wear sweaters that I think hang too short on me. And because you're French, I feel like you need lines. French love stripes. I like it. Okay. Thank you. Hold on. I got a bunch.

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It's good quality as well.

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No, these are good brands. This is Neiman Marcus. That's going to be a nice sweat.

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That's beautiful. Thank you.

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Look at this. This is rag and bone. Wow. These are some of these sweaters.

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Nice.

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Thank you, Daniel.

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This one might be a little too tight. If you want to be sexy, you wear that one.

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Thank you, Daniel.

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Okay, that's a bunch of sweaters. You're welcome. You got to keep the bag? Yeah, you keep the bag. Get them off the table. We've taken some great surf trips.

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Yeah, not too far from the house, but we have some good moments.

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I think-What about Waco?

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Oh, Waco is good. Yeah, thank you for.

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Taking me. Waco, your surf pool. Pierre and I went there. You messed up our reservation, but we'd love to come back if you give us a ton of free time. All right. I think another thing that we like that we bond on, is that we enjoy surfing almost more when it's bad because nobody's out. We don't ever like people to be near us in the water. We had.

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Some bad surf.

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And then we ride. You got me to buy these garbage foam surfboards from France. They were really cheap. What's the name of them?

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Decathlon.

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O'lions. O'lions. Now, I know you're not a sponsor yet, but if you want to send us just a bunch of free of your surfboards, we would love that. Those are lion boards. Man.

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You got.

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Two of them. One of them is meant for children, but we still ride the shit out of it. It's really fun. Yeah, send us that. Was it a 7-2?

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No, we have the 6-8.

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Send us a bunch of those 6-8s. Send us a stack of those yellow 6-8s with the carve-out body and the handle in the middle. They're complete garbage boards, but for some reason, we enjoy beating them up. You know what's weird about our neighborhood, too, is how we became friends with so many little kids. Oh, yeah. We were friends with these kids. They're wonderful. But we watched them grow up and now they're in their 20s.

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The best thing is Arthur, when he was surfing, he was a kid. I give him a wet suit that was too small for me. And he was like, I don't know, 12, 13 years old. He said, Pierre, thank you so much. You can have for the rest of my life all the waves you want. I'm like, Arthur, careful because this is going to stick. Now every time a good wave comes, I say, Arthur, remember what you said when you were a kid? That wave is.

[00:33:34]

For me. Arthur broke his foot one day. We were surfing the place that we don't talk about. It was a real day. It was good. We were alone. He broke his foot. It was like 6:00 in the morning. Before school, he was going in high school, and he's like, Hey, you got to help me back. Help me home. I'm like, Yeah, but I'm going to surf for another hour. He sat on a rock for an hour with a broken foot while I caught every wave and then I carried him home.

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That's just the best. You know, which is funny, he always wants to, since he is with the oldest, he wants to prove. So he goes for big waves and challenging situation.

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I've seen him get killed.

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Yeah, like two-But.

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He's huge now. But now he's just a tank of a purse. I told him once when he was like 16 or 17 years old, I said, The day you turn 18, I'm going to punch you in the face. And then I think by the time he was 18, he was already so much bigger. Let's just forget about that. You care about surfing. That's something that's different. We both surf a ton, but you care about... You know who the pro surfers are. You know when the contests are going on and you watch pro contests. I don't do anything. I don't like anything about surfing except for the act of surfing.

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I mean, you're a good surfer.

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Okay. Yeah, you're good. I've surfed my whole life since I could walk.

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But the funny part is when you get competitive, yeah, it's funny.

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That's funny?

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Yeah, you just changed.

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You're so competitive. Do you ever see me get mad in the water?

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Yeah.

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Do I.

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Yell at people? No, there's a funny story. There's those kids keep paddling around and one of the kids, you're pointing where you should sit. And he thought you wanted to shake his hand. You wanted to shake the hand, but you say, No, I'm pointing where you should sit and don't come next to me. Remember that story?

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No, but that sounds about right.

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The guy was.

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Like, What? Yeah, I run a tight ship out there. We are.

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Coming out of the surf and this girl was walking two girls just when we start hanging out and this girl said, Oh, my God, that's Daniel Toche. Can I get a picture? And you say, No, and you start running the opposite way. I thought.

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That was funny. Well, it's because it combines two things. It combines things that you love, girls and me running. And surfing. Three things. You know, it's a funny story that you can't get over. One time we were surfing one spot, but we decided to go to a different spot that's walkable from where we were surfing. For some reason, we just kept our leashes on because we were going to go run to this other spot that was only 100 yards away, maybe 200 yards max. And we happened to pass the greatest female surfer in the world. Do you remember her name? Stephanie Gilmore. Stephanie Gilmore. And Stephanie Gilmore looks at us and goes, Why you guys got your leashes on?

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We're like 10.

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Years old. And you didn't realize it until we had ran past that she was making fun of us. And you got so mad.

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I got mad. It was funny. We had all of this shit.

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Like working-You didn't like being teased by Stephanie Gilmore.

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I'd like to be teased by.

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Stephanie Gilmore. Oh, come on. You always resented her sister for not wanting to date you.

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Yeah, I tried. I didn't go well.

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Stephanie Gilmore, the greatest female surfer of all time, the Kelly Slater in female surfing, and she has a beautiful sister. She's gorgeous. And Stephanie is beautiful. And Pierre tried to hook up with her sister, and her sister was not.

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Having it. In front of you as what I did to make you laugh. And you said to me, You should have stopped after the first sentence, but I keep pushing. That's enough.

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That was bad. Nothing worse than watching you strike out in the water. Tell me about the time you got a blow job in the Soho House bathroom. No, I.

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Didn't get a blow job.

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Oh, you made love. And then I asked you, I said, Would you wear a condom? And you said, No, people don't wear condoms anymore.

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It's not fashionable.

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Is that true? People don't wear condoms anymore? No, people.

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Don't wear condoms anymore. You have to wear condoms. You have towear condom.

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Okay. You like to jog every day?

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Not every day, but I like to jog. Get things out.

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It's.

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Good for the.

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Brain as well. Do you do mental health? Do you do mental health exercises? Do you see a therapist? Have you ever seen a therapist? Me neither. No.

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You're my therapist.

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That's scary. I just go surfing. Sometimes my wife, when I'm starting to get really... She's like, Just go surfing. Fucking get out of the She's smart. Go get in the ocean. She's smart. Do you have any diseases from all the sex? You've never gotten diseases from.

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All the sex? No, you've been good.

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I've been lucky. Real lucky.

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Now I got malaria in Africa.

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What's that?

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I got malaria in Africa.

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The fuck. You got malaria. -malaria?

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-malaria. -malaria? -in Africa.

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In Africa. -oh, in Africa. Your accent sometimes to me sounds like someone doing a bad Christopher Walken impression.

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Well, my friends have got peanut butter stuck in my mouth.

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Okay, that's not as funny. It's not as funny as what I said. We'll put some bad Christopher Walken impression next to him talking and you're like, Oh, God. That's a sound like. What you got to do is.

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Grab a.

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Free-range chicken. Do an impression of me talking. Do an impression maybe you're talking about basketball.

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Basketball?

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That's what you always say in the water. You always like, Oh, are you going to go watch basketball? The thing is you don't usually meet when you're as old as we are. You don't usually meet a guy and then just start hanging out with a guy. It's just bizarre. Well, Pierre, listen, I'm sure I'll talk to you 10 minutes after this is done. Anyway, thanks for being on the show. Thank you, Daniel. Okay, au revois.

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Au dentit.

[00:39:54]

The assassination of President John F. Kennedy is the greatest murder mystery in American history.

[00:39:59]

That's Rob Reiner. Rob called me, Soledad O'Brien, and asked me what I knew about this crime. I know 60 years later, new leads are still emerging. To me, an award-winning journalist, that's the making of an incredible story. On this podcast, you're going to hear it told by one of America's greatest storytellers.

[00:40:20]

We'll ask who had the motive to assassinate a sitting president.

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[00:40:29]

After the Cuban missile crisis. We'll reveal why Lee Harvey Oswalt isn't who they said he was. I was under the impression that Lee was being trained for a specific operation. Then we'll pull the curtain back on the cover up. The American people need to know the truth.

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Listen to Who Killed JFK on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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He said to me, You don't need to take.

[00:41:22]

Care of them for not doing something to pain you or paying you something like that? I said, No, what are you talking about? But I had no idea who he had become.

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That's how he.

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Approached you? You know he meant when he said that?

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Yeah, I'm thinking murder.

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In a minute. I think that's what he was thinking too. From Tenderfoot TV, Cambside Media, and iHeart Podcasts, Radical is available now. Listen to the new podcast, Radical, for free on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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I'm Mary Kay Mcbrare, host of the podcast, The Greatest True Crime Stories Ever told. I write about true crime, which means I live inside the research wormhole. But I'm not necessarily interested in the headline grabbing elements, the blood and the gore, all of that. I'm more interested in the people behind these stories and what we can learn by looking at their experiences. You can meet me every week on The The Greatest True Crime Stories ever told, where I dig into crimes where a woman is not just a victim. She might be the detective, the lawyer, the witness, the coroner, the criminal, or some combination of these roles. I delve into the good, the bad, the difficult, and all the nuance I can find because these are the stories we need to know to understand the intersection of society, justice, and the fascinating workings of the human psyche. Listen to the greatest true crime stories ever told on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Paus. That was another great interview. Thank you to Pierre and all the women that he has loved. Thank you too. With me, as always, is my dog, Carl, for the post-show interview wrap up. By the way, Pierre immediately sent me photos of him wearing the sweater. He also sends me photos of his lunch every day. I want to put a couple of these photos up. Carl wouldn't even eat this food. Hostages don't even eat like this. He's like, I like sausages. I'm like, It's not sausages. Those are hot dogs, and it's on mashed potatoes, and there's cheese on top. Sometimes he does some pasta with hot dogs and cheese and potato chips. None of it makes sense. Then comes on my show and talks about the French pallette being more sophisticated. Then I can't stop looking at it because it's so insane to me that a 45-year-old man eats like this. What's going on? Are we going to stand up to plug, Karl? Where are we doing? Are we performing in Reno. I got some new dates coming in 2024. We'll be doing another proper tour. Check out boysworepink. Com. Clothing line I started for my toddler.

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Sit down, Karl. See you next week.

[00:44:18]

The assassination of President John F. Kennedy is the greatest murder mystery in American history.

[00:44:24]

That's Rob Reiner. Rob called me, Soledad O'Brien, and asked me what I knew about this crime.

[00:44:29]

We'll ask who had the motive to assassinate a sitting president. Then we'll pull the curtain back on the cover up. The American people need to know the truth.

[00:44:40]

Listen to Who Killed JFK on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[00:44:48]

On March 16th, 2000, two sheriff's deputies were shot in Atlanta. A Muslim leader and former black power activist was convicted, but the evidence was shaky and the whole truth didn't come out during the trial. My name is Moses Secret. When I started investigating this case in my hometown, I uncovered a dark truth about America. From Tenderfoot TV, campside media, and iHeart Podcasts, Radical is available now. Listen to the new podcast, Radical, for free on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[00:45:19]

I'm Mary Kay Mcbraer, host of the podcast The Greatest True Crime Stories Ever told, where I dig into crimes where a woman is not just a victim. She might be the detective, the lawyer, the witness, the the foreigner, the criminal, or some combination of those roles. These are the stories we need to know to understand the intersection of society, justice, and the fascinating workings of the human psyche. Listen to the greatest true crime stories ever told on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.