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Have you ever gone to a silent retreat?

Yeah, I've been to lots of silent retreats. Have you? No fucking way.

Well, I'vejust... I don't know.

First of all, I don't even believe in yoga. Let me just say that.

So you're not ever going to go to.

A yoga retreat? No, those things are dumb. And there's always two celebrities walking around that everybody talks about. Can you believe so and so is there the whole time? He's so wonderful. What? Shut the fuck up. Tashow. Tashow. Tashow. Welcome to another episode of Tashow. Ma'am, I'm just churning these things out lately. Eddie, how are you today? Doing great. Good. Good, good, good. I'm excited. Ask me why I'm excited, Eddie. Why are you excited, Daniel? Because my family is gone. My wife's family. My in-laws were in town visiting, and that's always nice when they leave. Let me give you a great hack. If you're in a position where you can afford this. I always pay for my in-laws' travel. I book it. That way there's no, Oh, because you tell people like, Oh, you're going to come out for four days. And it's like, Oh, yeah, we decided it was cheaper. We saved $80 if we stay for a month. It's like, no, I booked their travel, and I booked them on a direct flight, Tampa to LA. And then I put them on the direct flight home. I always put them on a nicer seat on the way out.

You want their energy and their mood to be good when they get here because Lord knows, I got six days to go on. I'd say the time zone. I have a few complaints. I'll tell you another thing that was insane that happened. My father-in-law, I walk out to the living room and he's just sitting there. I'm like, Hey, you're sitting on a throw pillow. It's just a couch with a couple throw pillows in the corners. And he had one down flat and was sitting not half, just flat out sitting on a throw. That's insane, right? Booster cushion. Well, that's funny you say that. That's funny you say a booster because he is a short man. So maybe he was doing it to give himself a little lift. All I know is that's what I nap on. And now I've got pink eye. But I do nap on it. You don't fucking sit on someone's throw pillows. That's crazy, right? It's basement behavior. No, you don't know anything about... Now I'm just going to go through a list of things they do that bother me. Her family, every last one of them, I always secretly give her eye contact to point it out because she does it, too.

They don't push in chairs ever. They get up from a chair. They've moved a chair. They never put it back where it was. Here's the thing. I have OCD. I'm very organized. I like things clean. I like things in their place. I also don't like saying thank you. I'd rather people not do things for me just so I don't have to say thank you. I know that's on me. That's the same. I've got a lot of issues. But they are, Hey, can we do the dishes? Can we help clean up? No, I don't want to spend the next two weeks trying to find where the fuck you put my stuff. I was like, Oh, we just want to be easy. No, you don't want to be easy. Just tell me what you want to eat and I'll make it appear. Don't say, Oh, we just want to hang. We'll just hang out. You're not going to just hang out. Let's do something. Let's go somewhere. The amount of times that just walk in and see four of them just staring at their phones on my couch, it's infuriating. I don't know who they're texting. All the people that they know are in the room.

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He said to me, You don't need to take care of them for not doing something to pain you or something like that. I said, No, what are you talking about? But I had no idea who he had become.

That's.

How he approached you? You know what he meant when he said that.

Yeah, I'm thinking.

Murder in a minute. I think that's.

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When Walter Isaacson set out to write his biography of Elon Musk, he believed he was taking on a world-changing figure.

That night, he was deciding whether or not to allow Starlink to be enabled to allow a sneak attack on Crimea.

What he got was a subject who also sowed chaos and conspiracy.

I'm thinking it's idiotic to buy Twitter because he doesn't have a fingertips feel for social, emotional networks. And when.

I sat down with Isaacson five weeks ago, he told me how he captured it all.

They have cans of spray paint, and they're just putting big X's on machines. And it's almost like kids playing on the playground. Just choose them up, left, right, and center. And then like, Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde, he doesn't even remember it. Getting to Mars, done an excuse, being a total, but I want the reader to see it in action.

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All right, if you're a person with crippling anxiety, then you will recognize the soothing voice of today's guest. She's my favorite mental wellness coach, even though I've never used one. Please welcome Rosie. I didn't wear shoes for you today because I felt like that was like...

Oh, good. You thought it was going to come. I love when I-I.

Assume you're going to come and hear it.

-come in and just be totally Zen and soft-spoken.

I think in general, you're going to have to speak to me like I'm an idiot the whole time. If I were just to meet you and say, What do you do for a living? How would you.

Describe it? I'm an author, so I'm a writer. I teach mindfulness and meditation, and I teach yoga, and I'm a wellness coach. Basically, my world is encompassed by this intention that I have to empower people to become well.

Do you ever blow up in a rage and yell?

Oh.

Of course. Okay. I don't know if you're just always peaceful. I'm Hispanic, remember? Well, I know, but I didn't know if your wellness trumped your roots.

Oh, no, it doesn't. The East L. A. Is still in there. Just because I'm polysyllabic doesn't mean that I don't get hood.

I don't even use the term hood. How much does Headspace pay you?

Did.

You start out.

Rocking there or no? No, I just started with them. I've only been at Headspace for about a year, but I was doing my own stuff prior to that.

Then they came calling to you? Do you have a different voice that you use for when you're on the app?

No, you know what's interesting is that I don't, and I think that that's why a lot of my students like to do my practices because I don't change into, Okay, now we're going to... Although some people might like that.

I do. I like that. I'd like you to come over to read to my kids at night.

Oh, that would be nice. I'd love to do that. I've done that before for my students.

Do you just call people, your students, anyone that listens to you?

Well, there are specific students that have been practicing with me for many years, but I would just say my friends. I think everybody's my friend.

Your students. How much do they pay you?

Yeah.

For many years, they can't. There's no end.

There's no end to it. There is a point where I graduate them. Okay. And they move on or forward with all the tools because truly you hire a coach for a short amount of time. Because if your coach is doing their job, then they will empower you to learn what you need to learn, and then you can move on. If you hire somebody and they're like, Oh, we're going to be working together for the next decade.

Decade is not that long. If I knew you could fix me in a decade, I'd give it a shot. But I don't think you could. So I'm not going to start.

The exercise. There's actually this book that one of my mentors wrote. His name is Stephen Cutler. I don't know. You may or may not have.

Heard of him. I've never heard of him.

He has a book called NAR-Country that he just wrote. And it's all about the longevity of aging and how you can, in fact, teach an old dog new trick. And that's like scientific studies.

You wrote a whole book just to say that. A whole book just to say that. Oh, Jeez, what a page turner. Do you ever meditate to recordings of your own voice? No.

No? I don't like to listen to the sound of my voice.

This is the first question I asked every guest. Okay. Do you believe in ghosts?

100 %. I don't know. It's like I have two sides of my brain that one side can believe something or see something that's unexplainable, and then the other side that's like, There's no possible way that that.

Is possible. Could you give me one example of something that you've seen.

That's unexplainable? Okay, I'll tell you a quick story. Okay. So when my boyfriend and I first started dating, there was a lot of weird things happening around the house, like just very strange lights turning off, that thing, which, okay, you can explain away. No, it's fine. But there was this one incident that happened. We were sitting across from each other. We were in the tub. We were taking a bath. I know. It's fine. We had our clothes on. Pornographic. We were sitting across from each other, and he was drinking a glass of wine. And as we were talking, I see this like, misdark, misty shadow hand reach across his face. I saw the fingertips of this misty, dark hand grab the top of the wine glass like that. Then you just hear crack, crack, crack. Then he grabs the wine glass and he picks it up and reaches for the top of the rim of the glass and just pulls it off. It was laser cut off of the wine glass. I have pictures of this I can show you because I've told everybody the story to try and debunk it. Right. How did that happen?

I hear. If you want me to, it didn't happen. You're nuts.

I imagined the whole thing. Okay.

I mean, you buy shitty wine glasses. It could be another explanation.

Right, that's true. Maybe.

Are you an amazing, happy person outside of your work?

This is a great question, by the way, because I always think it's funny when people just assume that because somebody's job is to teach people how to be more present, that they're the most present people have no problems or so not reactive. And for me, it's the complete opposite. Oh, you're a mess. Oh, yeah. I do what I do because of how big of a mess I am. Huh? Yeah.

I don't want to hear that at all. Do you meditate every day for yourself? Every day, of course.

Yeah, every day. Of course.

Yeah. How do you do? I assumed, but.

I didn't know. Yeah, I do.

How long?

Typically, 45 minutes to an hour.

Oh, my goodness. That's insanity.

Is that too long or too short? No, it's.

Too long.

For somebody that.

Teaches- Really? It's so crazy.

Tell me what the resistance is, because we were just talking about this.

Do.

You know that meditation is good for you?

I'm going to say yes, I know that. Okay. I'm going to say that everything that you probably think I should do, I know I should do, and I completely refuse it. My son is in preschool, and they have Reiki once a week. They have meditation every day. And I just laugh. And they send me videos of my son holding crystals and just peacefully sitting there and having good thoughts. And it's just the sweetest thing. It can bring me to tears every time I watch it. It's just the cuteest. And I just think about the childhood I had, which was my dad saying, Hey, go grab the ping pong paddle. I'm going to spank you right now. Just very different.

Yeah, very different. My sense is as you're talking about your son holding the crystals and in the state that you think it's silly, it's silly, but you also think it's sweet. But also for you, you can't imagine yourself.

Doing that. No, I've never do that.

Have you ever tried it?

Yeah.

And tell me what happened.

I think it was just like I started daydreaming or I fell asleep.

But what happens? Why the resistance to meditation? I'm just curious.

I would just rather watch.

Something on TV. Like, what happens in your mind when you're sitting there?

First of all, I don't do. It's not like I.

Try to- Can you be still?

Yes.

Okay, for how long?

Until I'm yelled at to do something.

How long is that typically?

I don't know. I mean, it depends. Sometimes I hide. I go places just so that nobody in the family knows where I'm at.

What happens when you're... What are you doing when you're hiding?

I'm trying to sleep. But that could be a meditation. Right. As long as sleeping is considered meditation, I.

Love it. I think that naps are considered.

What do you think of crystals? Just the dumbest thing in the world.

I'm on the fence because I almost feel like it's like the placebo effect. I mean, some people really believe that they can harness energy from you.

But some people are dumb. There's two crystal shops near my house.

Two.

I have somebody that represents me. I'm not going to say who, all right? But they've worked closely with me in my career for over 27 years. They're a witch, first of all. When I go on tour, they'll ram a chicken foot in my pocket or something like that. They always give me money trees as gifts and things.

Like that. That's fun.

Just every bit of it, nonsense.

But you don't buy any of it.

No, but I don't ever want to dissuade this person from-Okay, so.

You're doing it for them. You're not doing it for yourself. No. But what if it's.

Been working? Right. Anything great, then great. Then I reap the benefits of it.

That's the way I see it. That's the way I see a lot of this Reiki healing or crystals. It's what you believe. Look, I was raised Catholic, right? So for me, there are certain things that I wouldn't mess with. I'm not going to go play a Ouija board or something.

Because you don't want to go to hell?

Well, no, because I don't want a demon attached.

To me. I like it all. I'm fascinated by it all. But this is what I personally like. I like spa music. Okay. I like essential oils. I like to smell that stuff. And I like massages.

That's the end of it. And that's a really great. But that's a good meditation practice for you. That's really good. Because why do you like to get a massage?

Because I'm going to tell you why I like to get massages. It's the only time I can have a woman that's not my wife touch me. That's exciting. I only like to have females massage me. Now, I've never once in my life been aroused from a massage.

Oh, I've always wondered that about men.

People always say that guys are like, Oh, they touch close and you get excited. It's never happened in my life. I've never been sexually turned on from a massage, yet I don't want a man to rub me.

Interesting.

What about this? This world overlaps with, speaking of sex, it does people. Yeah. I don't know. I like this one. Do you do that stuff, too? Are you believe that tantric, all that stuff where they don't touch you?

Oh, yeah, the tantric. Yeah, this is cool. You have messed with that? Yeah, I have.

It doesn't work, right?

I mean, it's nice. It is nice. Have you never... You should try it with your wife. I'm not going to. The thing is, we're so conditioned in our society to just like... Yep. And that's it. I think it takes a lot more, especially for women, to feel aroused.

Than it does for men. That's what vibrators are for, continue.

But that's so not like, do you want to rely on a battery operator? A battery-related device every time.

Ours is solar.

Oh, so it lasts a really long time.

Well, as long as she's out in the backyard.

Where are you from? I grew up in East LA. Yeah, I grew up in East LA.

It's a beautiful.

Part of town. Yeah, now it is, right?

I don't know. It's crazy to try-I refuse to ever know anything about East LA. Really? Why? It's amazing. Again, no, I can't imagine it is. I don't know. It's one of those things where it's like when you're a kid and you hear the songs about Compton and stuff like that, you're like, Well, I'm never going to go there when you're this white kid from the suburbs in Florida.

Yeah, probably not a great place.

To go. You don't live in.

East L. A anymore? I don't. I'm in the Valley now.

Oh, look at that. I know. Is that what you always dreamed of?

Actually, it's the place that I said I would never, ever move to. If you're from L. A, the Valley is like the epitome of- Selling out? Yeah, it's selling out suburbia. But it's not- It's safe. It's just nobody.

Wants to go there. You don't want safe?

No, I want to live in fear.

Did you live in fear as a kid?

I did, yeah. Well, I grew up in the early 90s during what is called the Decade of Death. I lived in apartment complex that sat right in the middle of two rivaling gangs. We were always caught in the middle of drive-by shootings and gang violence and fights. But the interesting thing about that is growing up in that environment, you're growing up around other kids that are also experiencing the same type of, I guess, PTSD you would.

Call it. Did you really try to steal a cop car when you're 15 years old?

I did. I did attempt it. Yeah, I.

Tempted it. How far did you get?

I didn't go anywhere.

Did you get in the car? Yes. Did you close the door?

Yes.

Turned the key?

It was already on.

Okay. Did you call in?

No, I just put it in reverse, and then the cops pulled up behind and I just put it back in park and I got out. I didn't drive.

Away with it. Did you get arrested?

Of course, I got arrested.

Oh.

Really? Yeah, I went to jail.

You went to jail for that? You could have just like...

I didn't go toI didn't go like I wasn't there for a long time. I got arrested and I got booked. Right. Yeah.

You didn't try to get cute your way out of it?

Oh, yeah. They were not having any of it. Then when I got booked, the booking guy that was there, he's entering my information. He just looked at me and he was like, Welcome to life in the system. I was.

Like, Oh, Jesus.

I will cut you.

Okay, and Jesus back to you now. Both of you doing your part. Do you have childhood friends that you're still close with?

Yeah, I do. I have to? A couple. Because you have to? Well, yeah, I'm scared they're going to come after me. And then some family members that you just can't get.

Rid of. Yeah, I think that's more of a cultural thing. Yeah, for sure. I'm happy to get rid of family members.

Are you? That's a good.

Boundary to have. As soon as I see the way they vote on a few issues, I'm like, you're out.

How do you do it? Really? Did you grow up being close with your.

Family, though? No, I don't know. They were great. I had an easy childhood. I had fun. I enjoyed most stages of my life. I've never looked back on my life and be like, That was the best time of my life. I've always been like, No.

Like you're good with it.

You can move on. I feel like I'm living in the now.

At all times. That's good. You're being present. Maybe that's why you don't need to meditate or you feel like you don't need to meditate. I don't. Have you ever gone to a silent retreat?

Yeah, I've been to lots of silent retreats. Have you? No fucking way. Well, I'm just...

I don't know.

First of all, I don't even believe in yoga. Let me just say that. It's like, go home and stretch. But doesn't it feel nice? Oh, it's hot yogurt. Oh, good. Okay, we're going to all sweat. I'm going to smell you. And then there's like two guys in the class because they want people to look at the silhouette of their dog. I don't like them either. I don't know why.

They're there. So you're not ever going to go to.

A yoga retreat? No, those things are dumb. And there's always like two celebrities walking around that everybody talks about. Can you believe so and so was there the whole time? He's so wonderful. Well, shut the fuck up. She said, We didn't talk for six days. Oh, lovely. She just send that money to Ukraine, you assholes. Sorry.

Sorry, not sorry.

I've never been to a retreat. I don't know.

You should go to what? What happens in your brain when you're sitting there and not thinking, thinking? Can you get your mind to just be quiet?

Sure. Yeah. Sometimes I'll wake up and my wife is like, Oh, I couldn't get to sleep. I just kept thinking of a thousand things. I'm like, What? Stop. And then I just roll back over and fall asleep for another six hours.

That's good. Yeah.

I'm jealous. See, I think that's what someone should say to me. Like, Hey, you know what? You're in the right space.

Yeah, that's good.

You don't need to do any of this stuff. You don't need to practice.

Well, I'm not.

Saying you don't. No, I know you're not saying that, but that's what I want someone to say.

Oh, you want someone to say? I'm not going to say that to you, but I will say that I'm jealous that you can do that because that's ultimately the goal.

Well, that's the goal. You know, one time I despise acting as a profession. It's nothing I've ever been interested in. One time you move out here as a comedian, you're chasing your dreams, living in California, and it's so exciting. They want you to audition, and it's humiliating to audition. It is what it is. I've had to do that, too. Of course. One time I was like, Oh, I really would... This would be a good part. And my manager was like, I hired an acting coach for you. And I'm like, Oh, it sounds horrible. And then I did it with this acting coach. And the acting coach told me, after we did our read-through, he's like, That's perfect. I was like, Well, then I'll never, ever hire you again. And also I didn't get the part and I've never been a good actor. But all I needed was one person to tell me, Oh, no, you did it good. That was good. And then I was like, Well, then.

This is stupid. And that was it. And that's all the.

Reassurance you needed. To know that Ithat this is silly.

You don't like acting at all?

No, but in fairness, I really don't like comedy either. Well, it's because it's embarrassing to me to think like, Oh, I'm going to go on stage and tell jokes to people and make them laugh. If I think of it as an actual profession, it's absurd.

And silly. Yeah, but it's also hilarious.

Again, I've gotten to an age now where it's like I'm older and I can go, Okay, what I do for a living is not that important.

It's not true.

We need to laugh. Of course, but you're going to get it somewhere else if you don't get it from me. So it's like one less comedian is not going to affect anything.

I feel like you.

Are-this sounds like a suicide note.

No, I feel like you would be like a really great spiritual guru.

That should be your next job. I wouldn't want to con people into hanging out with me.

How is that conning?

I don't know. Just because I assume you need followers.

You already have followers.

Yeah, I don't want them. I tell my fans all the time. I wish they would just leave.

Why? Then I.

Wouldn't have to go on stage. My night would have been better had they not shown up.

Have you ever done a show where nobody showed up?

I mean, recently? No.

No, like back.

In the day. Yeah, of course. Where there's like, Oh, there's three people. But you're still itching to get up there. I'm going to make.

These- Yeah, tell me what that was like for you to get up there for three people and you just did your thing.

Did it mess up.

Your confidence at all?

Yes, of course. I was like, This is dumb. I'd rather not do this than try to pay my dues this way.

I think it's interesting.

I struggled. I struggled for like six weeks before things really started cooking. Six weeks? I'm teasing. Oh, my God. That was a joke. That was a joke.

Oh, Jeez, Louise. I'm like, I'm leaving.

Where are you on therapy? You think we all should do therapy.

Or no? I think you should probably do therapy.

I can't.

Tell me why.

Because this is why I hate everybody that lives in my neighborhood. Let's say that they're people that were born and raised there out in Malibu. I'm out in West Malibu. Farm, bigger people. We have chickens, whatever.

Yeah, bigger lots.

Yes. So the people that were raised out there, it wasn't like high society back then. And so they're this Malibamians, and they feel entitled. And so I hate them because they're like, Oh, these new people here, like Locals Only. Anybody that ever says, My son had a shirt once that said, Locals Only. And I told him, I don't wear that. He goes, Mom, I don't like it. I go, I want you to wear a shirt that says non-locals welcomed.

Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, I'm.

Into that. I'm going to make that shirt. Non-locals welcomed. Somebody brand that for me. Anyway, then I hate everybody that is there now because it's expensive now. They've moved there because they've succeeded financially in life. And when you succeed financially in life, you think every decision that you've made is the right one. You're constantly being told that you're, Oh, so you can't be told otherwise. Right. So that's why I hate all of them. Okay. I only bond with my gardener. It's like the only people I can ever talk to.

So you don't have any neighbors that you can get along with?

Yes, I do some, but they're just so many assholes. Okay, wait.

No, what does this have to do with therapy?

It's great. I'm glad you got me back to the point. My thinking, and I'm sure it's wrong, I accept that, is that the reason that I've gotten to where I am, this kid from a shitty town in Florida. So I came from that, and now I've got all this. And I in my head think, Well, all of those little demons is what allowed me to get here, so I better keep them.

Oh, you think it's going to take your edge away. It's like when bands, they get sober and then they lose their artistic edge.

Bands should never get sober. Do you know what.

I'm saying? I'm with you because I'm like, what happens? You guys, the music has gone downward. But is that what.

You think? I don't know if I think it, but it's like it served me well.

Is there a world where perhaps it will enhance?

Yeah, but why risk it? How much better do I want my life to be? My life is great. I got a good family. Bills are paid. Things are good. Let's not rock the boat yet.

How does going to therapy damage that? Because I don't have-I'm not saying you have to go to therapy.

You already told me I need.

Therapy, so don't fucking backtrack. I'm just saying I think everybody would benefit from.

Talking about this. I know, but you know what-You're.

Talking about.

Things now, so I guess that counts. I'd rather a therapist spend her time on a kid from East L. A. That didn't have so many things go right for them in their life than waste their time listening to me fucking wine is probably where my head's at.

Yeah, but everybody's problems are important. But this is.

The thing too. They're not. That's not true.

No, it is.

Yes, it is.

Not everybody's problems matter. Going back to what you said earlier about the all locals or all non-local people welcome. So it's like, how do we then create this community or an environment where everybody's welcome, but then you're already taking yourself out of the communal aspect?

Yeah. No, I'm not speaking for myself.

You're speaking for everybody else but you.

Okay. I have an app, I have a file on my tab on my phone always open. I can pull it up right now. It's a retirement calculator, and you just put in how much money you have, and it'll show you how much you can spend a month if you live to be 100 years old. So I'm always just staring at that.

It's not.

Very healthy. I don't want to be in jail and I don't want to be poor.

I think what you're saying your two biggest fears is like going to jail or being poor. I would say that mine are probably similar to that.

It's not my biggest fear. You know what my biggest fear is? When anybody ever says my biggest fear is then they say something, there's only one acceptable answer What is it? -monsters.

If.

It's not monsters, then I.

Don't really care. But you don't believe in ghosts?

But you believe in monsters. I don't believe in monsters either, but that would be a real fear if all of a sudden a fucking monster came through this wall.

Oh, my God. What about the UFOs that they've just confirmed? No, those aren't real. Right? Are they or are they not? They're not.

By the time they figure this stuff out, we're going to.

Be gone. I know. That's how I feel. So I'm fine with it. It doesn't affect my life. I'm just going to continue to water.

My plants. Quit watering your plants, okay? Get succulents. They don't.

Take all our water. Dude, I kill succulents. I can't keep them alive.

I'm a plant killer. You know my wife had a succulent for six years that she watered and then found out that it was fake? That's who I'm married. She watered it for six years, and then she found out that it was a fake plastic succulent. I have to tell her that I love her. I have to tell her that I trust her with my children.

Oh.

Boy. How long have you been in your current relationship?

Twenty years.

You've been dating this fella? Mm-hmm. Twenty years you've been dating him. Yeah. You know what you guys should do? What? When you're like 80, you should get married.

We actually were going to get married last year, but we ended up moving to the Valley instead.

Coin flip, huh?

Yeah, I was bummed about that, but I'm like, spend money on a wedding or buy a house. I mean.

You can get married without spending money.

I'm Mexican.

Oh. Yeah. My notes did not say that.

Should I go?

This is uncomfortable. I will not ask you this question. I've always wanted America and Mexico to merge.

I mean, we are on Mexican land, technically.

I just want it all. And Canada, why not? Yeah, we'll throw them in. Let's just all be one power country.

I.

Mean... It'd be fun.

I think it'd be awesome.

For some reason, I don't know, I just want to own it. That might be my favorite thing I've said today. That's so stupid. All right, you were at Nike. I can't believe that. And you won't talk about Kevin Love. He's very sensitive.

He has sad eyes.

Does he? Yeah. I love him. I love him because he came to the heat last year. He was great. I'm from Florida. I'm from Miami. Well, I'm not from Miami, but I lived there for a week.

Do.

You speak Spanish?. No. I lived in Miami forever. All my friends are Cuban and Puerto Rican.

And you don't speak Espanol?

None. Really? None. All my closest friends are Latino, and I just refuse. I just tell them, You're on my country. You're my country. I scream. You're my country. You learn my language.

Why does it turn the accent to now country?

To a hateful Redk. What? That's how it's supposed to sound. When am I going to be told I can't do a.

Redk accent? Yeah, probably soon after this.

Good.

What's your feeling on cancelation?

I think it's great. Cancel people. I think people deserve it. Obviously, it's not a real thing where like, Oh, your livelihood is gone. But as someone who's done things and said horrible things constantly, I've had backlash, and I deserve it. There has to be consequences. I also don't think that there's a problem with evolving and like, Oh, I used to be able to say this, and now I can't. Well, fine. Good. I'm okay with that.

I like the opportunity for people to evolve and to change, but it seems like people are more interested in the lashing out and ridiculing, as opposed to giving people the opportunity to change in that tone, so to speak.

I don't know that I've ever changed because of anything, but I'm also just thankful that no ex-girlfriend wrote a big article and it got published about me. I'm happy. That's great. That means I've had pretty good, solid relationship. It's also sad, though, because I think like, Oh, no girl ever thought-.

To do that. You feel a little left out. Kind of. What is your sign?

When's your birthday? Gemini.

Oh, that explains everything.

Oh.

It does.

It explains nothing. More stupid stuff. Here we go. No, it's definitely- You were born May 29th on the cancer side of Gemini. That means-.

Oh, you're a cancer side of Gemini? That explains so much. You have that nurturing side about you. But Geminis are two-faced, though. But the cancer cusp is good. I'm a cancer, and I'm a very loving and nurturing person.

Do you have any pets? Of course. What do you have?

I have three pit bulls. They're all rescues. I'm a do-gooder. I know.

It's so great of you to do that. I know. You know what bothers me about pit bulls?

What?

As someone who donates tons and tons of money to best friends, best friends, great organization. I don't know how many pit bulls I've saved. I get upset if I, when I'm walking my dogs. If I just avoid and then I get to some somebody going, Oh, don't worry, my dog's super friendly. I go, Yeah, until it's not. Yeah. You know how many deaths in this country have been caused by have an ease? None. Ever.

I'm like, isn't Yes.

It's never caused a death. Nobody's ever died because of a have an ease. So fucking leave me alone and my little dog. All right, so you got three dogs. That's good.

Yeah, no kids. How many kids do you have? You have two.

Sixteen. You do not. Well, I count the aborted ones.

Not the dog.

So two and then 14 abortions. Oh, my God.

Are you serious?

Oh, yeah. What if I was like-I named them.

-all of.

Your abortion.

With the same person?

No, that would be insane if one woman had 14 abortions.

How did you.

Do this? That is so many abortions.

How do you have the conversation with the girl or I don't know if you were girlfriends or one-night stands or whatever you.

Decided to do. How did I have what conversation?

Like, we're going to not have this child.

Well, see that it's heavy gaslighting. Hevy gaslighting.

Maybe do you have kids outside that you.

Don't know about? Oh, there's a strong possibility. But it'd be crazy for that person not to have surfaced to get a paycheck by now. What are they waiting on? For me to hit my second stride with this show?

This show is going to.

Be amazing. I know, but we have to end this interview because they had to turn the air conditioner off for us to do the interview. And now it's gotten more.

Yeah.

So I'm going to have to ask you-.

To leave? To leave. Okay.

Thank you very much for being here. I will take almost everything you said into consideration, and I will try to maybe take a little more time out for my own mental wellbeing in the future, sincerely.

Okay.

All right.

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