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Welcome, welcome, welcome. This is American Idol. Isn't that how the thing with it, I don't think they said, well, come on, come on. No, I know that was us. But then I transitioned into another that this is American Idol.


I'm joined by Miss Padman, Miss Monica Lilypad and Paula Abdul the Paula to your am I the Simon in this mix?


Well, yeah, because Randy. Randy, that's true. We're going to interview Randy Jackson. He's a world renowned musician, a record producer and an actor, executive and author, a television producer and entrepreneur and founder of the UniFi Health Labs. I came to love him on American Idol. For me. For you, dog. You say it all the time still.


And he has a new show, a revamp of name that tune, which I absolutely loved the earlier iterations of. So see Randy and Fox's name, that tune on Wednesdays at nine eight Central. Please enjoy.


Today I have to say something like. Oh yeah, how cute you thought he was. Yes. Randy is the cutest, best guess we've ever had. Well, he is a shiny light bulb.


He is. He's so positive and likable. It's insane. I loved. Yeah, yeah. For me. For you dog. I really liked them. Yeah.


I'm glad you caused me to say that. Please enjoy.


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He's now charged. Oh, we need something like this, we do, I like I'm really jealous you can you see what we got going on is really Janki compared to your setup?


Yeah, I don't know what's going on over there. There's a lot of really disturbing images behind.


It's distracting, isn't it? There's some military hardware on post there, but it's covered by a soundboard. I'm getting very worried, man. I don't know. I got to check my pulse. What part of town do you live in, Randee?


I live over here in the Hollywood Hills, but the studio is right down here in Hollywood where you're shooting. Name that tune. No, name the tune we shot in Australia. Get the fuck out of it. Yeah, bro, you should have come over, man. Oh, I.


We have a colleague we work with who's in New Zealand, and every time we face time, he's strolling down the street, no mask. He's on dates. He goes to the movies. It's like a superpower.


Well, listen, we have to do two weeks of hardcore quarantine. No, you couldn't leave your hotel room. I mean, this is serious guards at your door, the check and covid every two days they come in hazmat suits.


You can't leave your room. Yeah, it's bizarre. I mean, if we did this in America, maybe my work, you know what I mean?


Now, let me ask you this. For someone who works as much as you do, having that two weeks imprisonment in the hotel is a kind of dreamy. Did you recharge? I feel like this may have added a year to your life and you didn't even know it.


You know what, man? I feel like, you know, I had to check in with myself and like I thought, where am I? Am I here now? What do I want to do? What do I want to see in life? Today is the first day of the rest of my life. DACs I believe that my life. Am I happy with who and where I am? Yeah, deep thoughts.


Gave me deep thoughts to that to go inward, man, you know that kind of stuff. Human it could be doing always going in. I must say. It's the only way we could have shot the show with live audience. Live band. You know, it's the only way we could have done it. Name that tune is back, DAX.


Yes, it is. Now, I watched the teaser for it. And how the fuck are people getting a song from one?


No, honest to God. Oh yes. Harmonica's only thirty three. So there was a very famous show name that tune and you'd hear a portion of the song and you'd have to guess it right.


Randy, Monica, DACs and I only a couple of years older than you know from your stuff from Monica.


Oh no, don't step to these young but exactly.


Well you know, listen, you're talking about the bitter note, the iconic bitter note round. So name that tune is back. A show from the fifties sixties that was just the iconic music guessing game show. So we've got the opening rounds like, you know, the Spin Me Round, which we spin the wheel to pick categories, mix tape. We do a bunch of stuff like that. Then we get into better note like DACs. We say I could name that song in Seven Notes monarchies, I could name it in five.


Then we get to the Golden Medley, which is the final round, which you hear this song, you got a name but you got thirty seconds to name seven songs, so you really got to know the name. Exactly.


Really quick. I'm going to do an example for Monica. So Monica, I'm going to predict that you can get a song in four notes and I don't know anything about music. Randy, maybe there's more notes here, but I just let's try it, OK, in our name.


Can't touch this or our super freak, but you can't touch this trick.


I guess it's tricky. Probably five I to play this game.


I'm really well I thought it was super freak. I thought it was super freak and it was. But see, here's the deal. You got to know the name exactly.


Oh it can't be. You're a super freak. I'm a super freak. It's got to be the name. Exactly. Oh God.


Like I'll show you how I would have failed that. Randy hit me with those four notes that add to that kind you don't take home to your mother.


Oh, you just. Oh, wow. Oh, I went to the magic mike. You know, that's the thing. That's what makes it so fun.


Yeah. The best part is, is a lot of times when you're watching a game show, you don't get sucked in all that much because they're like in this crazy world, shit's flying around buzzer's bah bah bah.


But that thing, that very simple thing of hearing a little bit of a song and being with other people and everyone trying to get it, I feel like you would get sucked in really easy just watching it, like you would feel very participatory people at home, whether you realize it or not, you're playing along because you're trying to guess what song it is too.


Yeah. Now, Jane Krakowski, she hosts it and you are the musical director, bandleader, musical director, Sade Banana.


Whatever title you want, I'm going to give you CEO of music about God, music, God music. God, I hosted a game show for Fox last year, by the way, Rob Wade, wonderful guy. Let's just give him a shout.


Yes, I remember that, Joe. We love Rob wait, I hope you repurposed our wheel in your show because it was expensive. I would go on this emotional journey with these people, right, where they're either going to win a ton or they're going to lose a ton. And it was emotionally quite taxing.


And I wonder if you being more on that piano, are you protected at all or do you go on the journey to Jane and I went on all the journeys taxes, as you know, because you see people play this thing gets so close and you want them to win so bad. Yeah.


It's not our money, right? Yeah, it's not my money. It's not your money. You want them to get us out Monika's money. So you're like, come on guys, you're so close. And so when somebody would win. Oh my God. Jane was crying. We're just all emotional because you pull for these guys and you see what it can mean to their life. How could change their life. Somebody works as a clerk somewhere and they're only making X amount of dollars a year.


And this could be more money than they'll make in two years.


Yeah, people could own a home, right? They could, like, start a dude. You got the one hundred thousand dollar grand prize. You can win money in the other rounds. It's crazy, man.


I had to fight the urge to offer them my paycheck. I remember pulling the producers. I mean, like, let's go in on something here. This was heartbreaking. Let's see if we can put a little safety net under.


Oh my God, bro. That's funny, though, but that's the way Jane and I felt.


Yeah. So, Randy, you grew up in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.


Dirty, dirty sounds, man. Come on. That's where you from, man? Well, I'm from Detroit, so I'm from the dirty south.


You are. You're from Stanky Atlanta. Oh, they put some stink on it. Know eighty.


I look at you, you could tell that. Right, looking at her you can feel the rain. I could see that Atheel right in that hot lanta is just pouring out of every pore. But Randy, you know, I'm midway between you and Monica and it hits me all at once like holy shit, I talked on an old clunky phone and I fucking dialed it by rotating this thing. And it took six minutes to make a phone call like, wow, a lot's happened in my life.


Right. Or the words that people just said out loud everywhere I went on the playground, what you call people, it's evolved so much. And when I think about you being born in Baton Rouge in fifty six, like you being a child in the sixties in the Deep South, certainly you've witnessed an insane amount of change. Is that accurate to so much change?


You know, I was talking to somebody the other day. My friend was asking me, so what do you think were the biggest changes of you now and then?


I said, Bro, I was eating everything fried sugar dusted in salt, Tabasco like crazy. We never trusted a skinny chef. Yeah, I started my own health care line, unify health labs and body stuff, like I've lost all this weight and got my body together and people go like we used to eat like that. Yes. But I mean, I didn't know anything. Oh yeah. Know that. I didn't know that. I didn't know down there they go.


Boy, you got that big belly. You know, you must be eating good. I'm like, yeah man. You intimated that you got the big belly. I drink a lot of beer, huh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I'm in California.


I'm crazy health thing. I got vitamins, you know, saying like it's such a different life. Well, it's like you've lived different iterations of a life. But I guess what I was more referencing is when I see these black and white news footage, videos of people spraying black people with fire hoses. Oh, yeah, that was mid 60s in Louisiana. I guess that's what I'm saying. You were a little boy and that was the climate.


You know, it was so crazy. I don't remember it that well because I was young. I remember seeing all of this stuff and living through a lot of it and seeing the changes that it made. The more vivid memory I had is I was a kid. But seeing how Woodstock transformed that then young youth to take over America to burn money, burn flags, burn bras, stand music, it's free. We're free. I don't care if we're all pumped up on drugs.


This is the world we want to see and we want to live in. So I see that now when you see the marches, you see Black Lives Matter. You see how much it means to millennials, how much it means to people that awoke and saying we have in this moment we need something else. We're demanding change. So I was a part of that. You know, seeing H rap brown, who is this black militant leader, see him fight the KKK?


I mean, you know, all of that. What it reminded you of what we've gone through the last year or so in this country. We've come far, but we still got a long way to go. You know, I'm saying let's keep it real. Oh, yeah. Yeah.


Well, again, yeah, it's misleading. Because there's so many layers of the oppression that it feels like I've said this on here many times, like I grew up learning there was slavery that was abhorrent. What a terrible thing. But then old Abe Lincoln came through and we're good. No slaves. We fix that. And then I come to learn about the suppression of the segregation, the Jim Crow. And you go, oh, oh, wow.


OK, so only one little element of it change. And there's all this other stuff and then you clean up some of that, but then you're like, oh, no, man, still no generation of wealth redlining. There's so much. And yeah, there's no slapping each other on the back yet. But again, big strides since you've been alive. Oh yeah.


You know, as they say in the south, which I'm sure probably Monaca heard this and at all, I don't know, because like a lot of this that we're going through is about fear, right. Fear of the person of the other color, fear the person. I don't know, fear of everything. The same in the south, the old south. The more things change, the more they should stay the same. That makes absolutely no sense.


So if ever there was a paradox. Yeah, yeah. It wasn't good before. So why is it going to be good now. What are you talking about. Things are never great. They're getting better, but they were never great. So, you know, people are just afraid of change, you know what I mean.


Sorry, I don't know if you heard that, Daddy, but my my seven year old decided she was involved. That made my day. That made my day. See, listen, we're keeping it real with Daxam Monaca. Y'all got kids coming in and out. Daddy's in the house. Hello, Daddy.


If you think we're on the penthouse floor somewhere, well, you just found out we're not. No, no, no, no.


I'm saying you're my daddy.


So what age you start playing bass and why that instrument? I actually started playing drums first because my brother's a drummer. I started playing guitar and then I started playing bass. Then I started playing saxophone and piano. Then I went back to base. But, you know, the bass just spoke to me. You know, Bass is the real final frontier. You know, the bottom rules for evidence. You know that being from Detroit, man, I had all that Motor City, Motown, this man.


Come on, man. Absolutely.


Now, that role, the bass player, generally speaking, you got to be the most eccentric member of the whole fucking band. Right. Like, there's a great history of those guys just being the most out there. Dudes in the band.


Of course, we're living our best life, as Oprah says. Come on, that's me.


And, you know, so I hope that this shocks you. Fingers crossed. As I learned about you today, I learned that you potentially played on one of my favorite songs of all time. And I don't think you would have ever guessed. It's one of my favorite songs, but Elephants in Love, Jean-Luc Ponty off of Fables. Oh, you look at you.


Look at you. Look at you. Wow, that's you go deep, brother. I had no idea. I knew you went to UCLA and you graduated with honors.


Oh, my dad loved Jean-Luc Ponty and I grew up listening to An Elephant's in Love still in my top four songs of all time. And then I saw that you were on three John Negroponte albums early in your career.


Yeah, I loved your look, man. I mean, you know, I started being in bands and all that kind of Hendrix Zeppelin kind of stuff, but then, you know, doing the funk thing with James Brown kind of bands. But then I really delved deeper into jazz fusion, which to me is the ultimate expression for a musician. It's such a high degree of difficulty. It's like the Olympics of music, I call it, because you got to be able to improvise, got to be able to read.


You've got to be able to play anything, multi rhythm, multi time signatures. It's the ultimate prima musician. This is why all the jazz guys, including John Coltrane, who became the greatest mentor to me ever, because this guy was ridiculous. All studied all of the Indian rhythms and ragas and modes because the degree of difficulty. And so Jean-Luc was in my vision orchestra with John McLaughlin, who later had shocked this group that he had Al Shankar and all these guys.


He was just the ultimate musician. So it was a dream of mine to go to the highest level, go they are trying throw down with the best of them. I was very fortunate to be there.


I want to plead a little defense for jazz fusion because I think what happens, like when I tell people I love Stanley Clarke, ah, I love Pat Metheny. I love all these folks. Right.


It's unfortunately colored by adult contemporary.


Right. It's just unfortunate that unfortunately, you see some of the best musicianship of all time. There's this element of improv, but the production value is off the charts. It's like laser beam focused with every other element that's ever existed in jazz. And then the. Product is just like it's a laser focused. Yeah, I mean, you know, it gets a bad rap once again, most things in life, if you look at them, it's out of fear.


These are so many notes, so many poly rhythms, so complex. I don't understand it. It makes me scared. Can I just go back to listening to some simple pop song? That's two chords at best when a melody that's four notes because this. I know. So the fear of that, that I don't understand it or it makes me not cool because I don't understand what it makes me scared because I don't understand if they would just embrace it.


But I think part of the problem with that is I think it's also the labels and how people have treated it throughout time. Miles Davis was a rock star because he gave you the rock star vibe. He gave you the outfits, the clothing. He was cool. He was bigger than life singing. I was models and he was everything that a Bowie or Hendrix or Jimi Hendrix on the trumpet.


I mean, he was like, exactly.


Yeah, exactly. But he's also the guy that started bebop. He transformed it. Now, what has happened? A lot of the jazz fusion guys, though, they themselves are great musicians, but not stars. Yeah. So they win the buttoned up suit, look like they work at the bank like an insurance guy or some shit.


I don't even know what's going on. Let me put on a suit. Whoa. That's going to make you a star. Well, I've never seen somebody wear a suit before, so Miles transcended that. So I think the guys have done this to themselves as well.


Uh huh. So I'm going to do one more nerdy thing in Monaco, probably cut all this out. It'll be boring to everybody. But one guy I thought was going to break through in that miles way, that Jimi Hendrix way is someone you worked with him. I love him. I've had him on is Van Horn.


Oh, we love Van Horn. We love Van Man. Atlanta, Atlanta. He had that sexual power was just in every song. He just woke your growing up in a way that some of the greats have. Van is so great.


He's still great. Van, what's up with you out there? Man Hollywood is dog. But you know, he's from Dayton, Ohio. He grew up like you, grew up in Detroit, went all of that Motown with all of the Shuggie Otis with all of the Curtis Mayfield, The Monkees. He grew up with the greats. So when you grow up with those greats and you take it all in like Prince took it all in, Michael took it all, and they took in James Brown and took in Sly and the Family Stone.


They took in Hendrix, they took the Isaac brothers. They took it all in. So when you take all of that in, as Van did, and then you write from the heart, oh, my God. And I met Van because I'd signed this girl when I was born in our Columbia Records named Dionne Farris, who was in Arrested Development. Speaking of Atlanta, I feel personally that me musically, a lot of contemporaries and my friends musically, those of us that are Wolke, about all kinds of music and love everything and love music, it's our responsibility to push it and pay it forward.


So Arrested Development was a forward thinking group like Outkast, like Van Horn, like all these things saying, OK, where can I take it next from my experiences, like probably DACs. Were you and Monica doing your podcast? So how can I enlighten people in a different way, take them somewhere that they haven't been turned them on the things that they haven't experience? What part of this can I do being a Wolk individual? You know what I'm saying?


So, Van yo man, hold it down. Let's get back in the lab. Van Let's get cooked up, man.


I think we would do really good on a road trip together, you and I. Randy, do you like brand new heavies? Do.


Come on. The girl from singing in there from New Orleans, my girl in Davenport. Well, you know, do I love these are my peas. These are my colleagues.


DACs, you know, we should do let's do a show, a road trip. You and I get on a bus.


Oh, I just got one. I just bought one. Dude, let's take your bus out. I'm in. I'm just looking for a road dog.


I got you man. I got you. That's come on, man. Randy and DAX take on Memphis.


I want to know a little bit more about the Randy Jackson story, because it's pretty interesting and I have some theories that I'm going to hit you with and I want to see what you think. But you became a very in demand, very accomplished studio musician in the 80s.


I imagine you were in L.A. doing this well, San Francisco, 80s and 90s, because, you know, I was living up in the bay in Marin. I went up there to start this production company, Renata Michael Walden. And it's funny because he and I are now back. I'm back in Germany and he's in Germany with me now. The reform journey. And we started making all these records is jazz fusion guys. We met at a Chuck Mangione show.


Oh, at the Santa Monica Civic and and feel so good. Yeah, exactly, and from there, it just grew and we started this production company trying to make urban records and then our first big hit was Freeway of Love for the late, great Aretha Franklin, which brought Aretha back Clive Davis. We happened on Clive said, you guys, it's such a good job. I'm going to give you my next big talent. So we recorded a song called How Will I Know with the great Whitney Houston.


So that started a whole cavalcade of things happening. And from there, I mean, you know, I was already doing sessions. I had to pick a band with the Santana guys and the Journey guys, you know, bands with the Grateful Dead guys. Listen, let me say something here. Let me put a caveat here. I was living a very different Randee life at the time with so many inebriates. I guess I didn't really know what was going on at the time or even if I was really there at the time.


Sure, sure.


But as I think back on it now, I'm like, yo, that was crazy. But maybe that's why I was doing so many Niebuhrian, so I wouldn't know. So I don't know. I got clean and sober about 17 years ago. So you didn't. I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah.


I was 16 years sober. I relapsed this year on opiates, but I'm back, so I'm with you. I've been on the journey for like 17 years myself.


Yeah. People helped me make a change. Ha ha.


What I notice about that, all that work you did is that it doesn't seem like you had a singular goal. It seems like you had a love for all these things and you kind of let them take you wherever they took you.


Is that fair to say, dude, you hit it on the head, open to all the possibilities, not blocking any blessings, love music. Just want to live my life through music and love all kinds of music. Yeah, bluegrass, country, zydeco. I grew up with like you're on a Charlie Daniels album. I love Charlie. Do Charlie, listen, I mean, the late, great Clarence Gatemouth Brown and I toured when I was in his band.


We toured with the Charlie Daniels Band. That's Devil came down to Georgia. We played a lot of shows. Kinky Friedman was on the bill. Talk about a wild, but Kinky was pushing the envelope. I mean, I'm just saying it's like I just love music, right? You give me a great song, some great talent, some interesting to I just I love music.


OK, this is the juicy part. I want to know when I look at the list, it's insane. You've listed a ton of them, but Bob Dylan's and this is what I immediately thought of. You been in the studio a hundred times with people who were young and at the peak of their powers at the peak of their popularity. I have to imagine, just given what I've seen on movie sets, that you saw the most atrocious behavior conceivable and you at many times were a role player.


So it's like you got to be sitting there with your bass ready to be perfect when they say go. But now this singer, they may be fucking in the bathroom for two and a half hours and then they may come out and say, this all sucks. I don't want to do this. This isn't right. How did you have the patience for that? What was that like? Am I right about you've seen some crazy shit. You're right about it.


I've seen some wild insane. But, you know, that comes with making great art, right? Because the first thing that they say, oh, he or she must be just batshit crazy, but the art drives you to that because you have to be free enough to take it all in. That's why they need to inebriates to get away from themselves to escape. Like I remember Eddie Van Halen saying to me once, not so many years ago, God, I've never been in a studio or recording anything, not being high out of my mind.


Yeah. Yeah, it's a different experience.


Can I hit you with my theory on that? Because you would know better than anyone to bring something completely new and novel to music, to anything. What it tells me is that you see the world differently than all of your peers and everyone else walking around on planet Earth. And so that's the great gift of it. But at the same time, that uniqueness is also isolating and you don't see the world as all your peers. That's why you have this gift.


And the discomfort of that, I think, is what many musicians throughout history have had to treat with substances.


Yeah. And, you know, you hit it on the head again. That's the truth. Also really is and I say this artists all the time because I manage artists being an artist myself, you I've got production companies, all this stuff. Right.


You have to be willing to go into the strongest wind against all the hate in the world, holding a cross that is struck by lightning. Newt, are you able to do that and give zero beyond zero bucks? I have to do that. Are you that one? Because Mick Jagger had to eat crap like hell before he made it. Jimi Hendrix had to go through hell. All the ones that you love Bowie in that time. Are you kidding?


The go to hell queen? All the things that you love, they had to go through hell. Don't forget, people hated them. Madonna people hated her. She had to be so bold. That's why I give her all the props in the world. Anybody that's changed history and time. James Brown, I was watching. I got a feeling last night on YouTube, him dancing and moving. You've never seen anything like that. But you can see how he greatly influenced Prince and Michael Jackson because the hair, the suits, the short suits, how they fit, how he moves, how he moves with the mind.


Dude, in order to be a winner, you've got to go against all the hate in the world and say, look, I'm getting this. I don't care what comes before me. I don't care what they're saying. I'm winning. That takes the spirit. So I always say stars are born. They're not made. All these TV shows, including us on Idol, they're not made. They are born born with that certain conviction. Like, you know, you guys out there, me, DAX and Monica were born with that conviction.


We know nowhere goes up in this. You know what I'm saying? You know you know, DAX is helping us realize that again today. You know, you've got to have that thing against all odds.


I'm winning delusion. Arrogance.


Yeah, I my case. Arrogance. Yeah.


Think about all the greats. Yeah. I've got to have it all.


Think about sports athletes that people thought they'd never make it.


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Well, I have to imagine that you witnessed this quite often, super talented session musicians watching someone who musically is not that talented but is a star in the resentment that that would create and how you could probably take yourself out with all that resentment that you're in a band.


You know, there's something. Well, what are you doing? What are you doing? Dance. What are you doing? Let's get on that bus, man.


No, I've just been I've been in cars. Well, yeah. So the star beats everything. The star doesn't need to be the most talented. The star needs to be the most charismatic and the brightest star with the will of God. The star needs to be that one of the stars that always the most talented. Usually if you look throughout our history, you can find that in very small doses where the star ticks all the boxes you cut to the Mariah Carey's, the Whitney Houston's prints, the Springsteen, the Prince, the Michael Jackson, the Bowie, you cut to those the disciplines.


But it's not that many of those. So people get it confused. They don't understand the star. But remember, the star knows that they're always going to be hated on that, fuels them even more. May hate me. I love it. I'm going to kill them and get it. And I'm saying use that as fuel.


You know, you just kept evolving to all these different levels. Like you're a band director for the tour of Mariah. You're producing now. You know, you're writing, you're producing, you end up in an hour. So how did you avoid not thinking, oh, well, shit, these dumb asses are the ones that are getting this. What was your own little mantra that kept you so flexible and positive and not resentful?


I say, I think by the grace of God, I realized early on in my life sort of what my role was going to be and I just started to more fulfill it than anything else. I realized I was a team player and a band guy. We all tried to be solo stars. I realized that's not what I really wanted. I wasn't that. But I could be a great part of a great band and a great situation. And I also realized that maybe I had a little different vision to spot the star except the star.


Try and help the star blow up because that's what a producer is supposed to do. Yeah, I realize what that was. And I just leaned into it not thinking I need to be the very front, but I can be at the front with the front guys.


But if you had to rank if I said, Randy, I'm going to give you two hours before you die to do any one of the twenty six jobs you do, what one are you doing? Are you going on on stage with your base. Of course.


OK, ok guys got taking music to the people and seeing the people. Yeah. It's great to play those small clubs who can look in the faces of people, see how and if the music's affecting them and what you're doing. Because one of my greatest times in life is being in journeying back in the day and being on stage at a festival. And there's 150000 people and every person in the crowd singing the lyrics to that song. I go, Thank you, God.


I finally made it because you took the time to learn every lyric, every nuance. This music meant that much to you. This is the reason we all do it. So to get that back from the people, not from the critics, not from the sales, not from any of that, directly from the people means you've touched people. You've really done what it's about. You know what I mean? You've helped somebody to live. They love that lyrics so much.


They identify with it so much that they took the time to completely ingested and remember it.


Wow. Yeah.


And you're doing a virtually a synchronized dance with one hundred and fifty thousand people. Like the symmetry of that has got to be electric.


It is crazy bro. And like I remember, I had tears streaming down my face and I was like, wow, this is it. This is what it's all about. So to get that rush in that high, dude, it's unbelievable. So this is what drives these people to do it. So when a lot of stars, it is the sincere ones because as long as they're not sincere to like anything else, but to get that sincerity, when they say the fans, that's what drives them.


That's really the truth, because you only buy so much stuff. You can only make and spend so much money. You can only love so many different people. Yeah, but that thing that you get from that crowd that you go, this is why I'm really here, because, you know, what's your purpose as an artist? What's the purpose? Music is to soothe the savage and all of it. Yeah, that moment is dead, pure, and then everything that's built off of it is questionable at that moment.


Yeah, yeah. Now, another interesting career turn for you or just jog in the road is becoming an an hour person at both Columbia and MCI. And I wondered what got you into that while I was in Germany and doing sessions up in the bay.


I had moved down to L.A. because I was doing a lot of sessions down here. I think within a three month span I was working on. And I'm not just blowing names out. I was working on Dylan Springsteen, Elton John, Billy Joel, my God, Lionel Richie. And I became a session guy in a session. Guys show up at different studios, different sessions. Sometimes you do three or four day playing on whatever and, you know, you make it work.


And I remember I said, you know, I'm a band guy. I'm a guy from Louisiana. I thought I wanted to do this. Not my soul. Right. I mean, I can do it and I love it and thank God I can do it. I'm so blessed. But I said to myself, I need to preserve my love for music. Somehow I got to figure this out because if I keep going like this, just going from session to session, I'm going to start not to love music as much as I do.


You're like the Maytag man coming in. Fix the dryer, right? What based you only play those eight over there. You pick whatever color. I mean, whatever. So I hate it. And our people before this, because I thought they were to blame for the good music and the blame for the 90 percent of the bad music was just 10 percent good still on the radio. And it's 90 percent bad, right still. And our guys make these records, signees, people I still don't like in our people.


And I was one. Right. So, Buddy Myers, we're going to Columbia, the man you should try and our man. Look, you know, I'm trying to get more musicians in the game. And I thought to myself, wow, real musicians, record producer, songwriters doing and are, wow, maybe this is the way it started back in the day with the great guys that signed all the great stuff, because it sounds weird to me, but a musician that knows music writer, producer doing in our know it makes too much sense to be in the business.


Oh, no.


So I decided to jump in and do it and I realized that DENR people still today, people can spot talent sometimes, but they don't know how to make it go. Mhm.


So you need to be able to have the right phone book to hire the right people to know who to hire to make it go. So it's not just going on tick tock or YouTube or Instagram or whatever social media thing of your choice. Oh this person's talented. Do you know how to bring that to life. Well that's the art. Yeah. So I learn where the community was faltering and where I could be of service and help. So that made me happy to know that I could actually help to build it and try and help it become realized.


And that's how I got into it. Yeah.


And so you were doing that when Idol came around? Yeah. Yeah. But like everything else, I've been doing that now for 13 years or so. I was getting burnt out on the entire thing because doing an hour, if you're doing it correctly, which I don't know how many people are doing it correctly, as I say, I don't know. I don't know what's going on now. It's a little foggy to me. I don't think things are going the right way.


But anyway, you have to be able to future cars. If I sign you and Monica today, a year from now, which is early when that record comes out, I don't know if the marketplace is going to be able to bear what you're doing and what we're creating. Uh, yeah. I got to set up marketing, promotion, publicity. I got to set it up. So this is why you see labels signing things from big Spotify numbers in any social numbers because it's already made.


So they're just putting their names on it, trying to get it higher. But they didn't have to started from scratch in my day. You got to start from scratch.


Yeah, it's flipped on. So it's done like a 180. I don't know if that's good or bad, but that's what it is. Yeah.


So when Idol came around, I'm curious, we could do six hours on Idol.


We're not going to do that. We love Idol. That's where I came to know you. I just want to know your expectations versus what it was.


Why when it came to Idol, what's really interesting is I was just about done with doing Enah. I saw the curvature of what was happening. We would put acts on TV, Mary J. Blige, Blink 182 when I was in MCI, which cost a lot to put acts on TV more than people even think. And we saw not the sales spikes being the same numbers. So I saw that changing the Leno's or Letterman's were not the same. They weren't driving numbers anymore.


So remember, as you study the marketplace, you see the coverage of what's happening. So the real. Leaders out there today are studying what's going to be next, what's after Spotify, what's after Tic-Tac, what's coming next. So those are the real leaders, right? So I said, you know, I'm a little bored with this. I think there's got to be a different way to break access and do music. Agent friend of mine, Jeff Frascati said, hey, you know, Simon Fuller's got this crazy show in the U.K., you boy, another in our guy.


Simon calls on it. It's funny. So would you ever entertain doing the show? I could, yeah. No music shows on TV like Corning, you know, because like. Yeah. Know I'm cool, man.


Right. Rock bands. You got street cred. Yeah. Yeah. I don't bust my cool with this Corning shows. So I said, you know what, I watch it. And I was laughing because Carl was giving it to them between the teeth like you saw whole thing. And I was laughing because I knew him. So he came over and he and I sat at the Four Seasons by the pool in L.A. here and talked about and we were laughing, talked about what he could do on the end.


And because he and our guy in the UK and you know what I said to myself, I said, listen, I need you to change any way I may as well, and take a leap of faith and see what happens. It's either going to win or lose, but I feel like it's the right way to go. You know, that real guttural, intuitive, instinctual thing. That's why I signed on.


It's one of the top five cultural phenomenon in the last twenty years. Right. I mean, there was a point where you guys are on and it's like it's approaching Super Bowl. No, it's just like the biggest show on TV by such a landslide. Were you just like, holy smokes, this is like nothing I've ever experienced. You're right.


We're we're getting thirty two million people in episode twice on sixty four million people a week. And so here's the thing that people don't know.


It was tock before tick tock on an even better way because you saw somebody perform, they built an audience and you could then track and go to and look at the followers. So you see somebody come on. They all of a sudden they're in the top ten on the show. They got seven million followers you can market and promote to them and they can see you week in, week out as we try and tell the audience at home what's right with them, what's wrong with them, what they need to work on.


So it was the entire process completely unfolded. And what people still miss today, Daxam, Monaca, coloniser and our guys, we want you celebrities judge a show.


Yeah, right. This is what we did for a living like me doing in, ah, being a musician, a producer and a manager doing and ah no, it makes too much sense being on a reality show.


But I studied and developed developing talent being an and our guy makes too much sense. So you see all these celebrities on these shows selling whatever love of them. They're all my friends. I'm happy and proud. Great. They do an amazing job, but they're not hanging our people. Yeah, our hope was to find somebody that would still keep us cool and represent us and say, yo, we found this undiscovered talent, Kelly Clarkson, and she's blowing up yo.


So we still know what we're doing. We just doing an hour on TV now. We're not just doing it and nothing happens to these people. Carrie Underwood became a superstar. Adam Lambert became, you know, Jennifer Hudson. I mean, you know Fantasia. I mean, these people became superstars. You did, too, though. I just want to say, like, I don't know, there's not been too many historic light switches that flipped as it did for you.


Right. I mean, you go from general anonymity to. Thirty five million people know your full name. I mean, that's got to be crazy when you start walking around town and you're like, oh, my goodness. Well, one in eight people know my name.


Yeah, dude, it was such a live change. But you know what? It happened for me later in life, so I could better deal with it. Yeah.


And you weren't ready for that ever before?


I was ready for it, but I was on twenty five thousand every day and that's what I'm saying. Had you been given the opportunity in the eighties, you would have fucked it up.


Yeah, I mean, look, I was on stage your journey and I mean a lot of fans and stuff and was in a different sort of cone. It wasn't this world wide cone like that, you know what I'm saying? So, yeah, it was a tribute. It was a trip. But I mean, thank God we discovered some talent and it all worked. But, you know, I laugh. And when I see these shows sometimes because as an inner person or manager or writer producer, when someone would walk through the door, forty boxes would go down by the head.


And Colin, I was just ticking them off one by one. I too close together.


Not need I need to hear makeover. I need to wig out. Needs their ears fixed. You know, you get. No, no, no. I'm saying that is how it was. Yeah. This is what. You do? Yeah, and might not be pretty, but it's as my friend Kenny Ortega, whom I met people know from High School Musical and Michael Jackson, everything else, Kenny Ortega is real. And he would always say Bob Fosse.


He said to him, if you don't walk in here with, you ain't got it. So when Fozzie would see dancers walking and go leave, what do you mean in dance? You ain't got it. You didn't walk.


Oh, man. Cut throat. No, but you know what I'm saying. Oh, yeah. There's a marketplace reality. And you guys were in charge of figuring out who would be selling in the marketplace.


And as to great and our people, you're figuring out how to fix it. What needs to be fixed.


They sing four or five notes, you go good, low register, high register shit, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Who do I call for the songs? Who do I call the producer? You've already decided in your head the whole thing. Yeah. And so all you're doing is testing theories, ticking them off, saying, OK, that they're not going to try that that didn't work.


Or was there ever a time someone came in and you were like, there's no way. But then you were wrong.


They sang and they blew you away and then they won or very seldom because as I say, we were and our guys, that's what we did for a living for years. So sometimes you say, listen, Carrie Underwood, you're very shy. You just need to start to believe in yourself. You got this so you can see the turn and you saying things to them. We would say things to them to try and get them to give them the insight, to see if they could turn it on themselves.


That's part of the whole thing. But, you know, you knew she had that talent. You could hear from the first couple of notes, manager. You could sing to notes to me right now. And I go and yeah, I'm doing Monica's things.


I'm going. I've been trying to make like Monica.


I've been trying to make her sing on here for three years. I don't even know for Daxam, definitely for Randy Jackson. And I would sing for an hour for you and I can't sing, but I would love. Do you have a dachshund? Go fix you up on the bus. Man on tour with Jackson. Randy They'll be one of those moments where, like, if I drop the mic yet I keep singing and we all realize it's on a CD.


So I have one other American Idol question, which is just for me, who's pretty co-dependent. I don't really want to hurt anyone's feelings. It must have been so lovely to have Simon there just knowing, like, well, he'll say everything's fucking shitty and then I can come in with some support and some rebuild. Was that beautiful cover fire to have?


What was really funny about the show, Paula, whom I'd known forever, whom I loved dearly, I didn't know Seacrest or Dunkleman who started the first season with us, but the team that formed, unbeknownst to us, was the complete, perfect mixture. Yeah, Paula had to be there to make me and Simon work. We had to be there to make her work, to make Ryan work. It was such the perfect storm. None of us knew lightning just struck.


We got incredibly lucky and incredibly blessed. So I see other shows. Try and copy that. You can't copy it. It has to be born of itself. It has to be natural. You can't force chemistry like that.


Yeah. And again, the geometry of it, like everyone's playing their own specific note and it's coming together. You can't really manufacture that.


It's funny. I'm thinking now I learned something. I was making my vitamins. The first thing that made this part of this Motegi five, I said, listen, I'm going to take it because if any working for me, I won't sell it to nobody.


Well, I'm glad you bring that up. That's my last question for you. I'm curious what prompted you to really start focusing on your health? Because it started apparently like in the first year of American Idol. And my theory was maybe this. If you're ambitious and you're a hustler and those things are being fulfilled, that you can be so focused on it that there's no space to even think about your health. Your priorities are just this hustle. And you don't ever stop and think like, well, great, if I get all this shit and I can't walk upstairs or I don't feel good, what's the point?


Is that fair?


It's strange. Truthfully, what it was is that I was probably more depressed than I knew I was living a sedentary lifestyle. And remember, emotions are the key to probably great life and managing them. So we eat our feelings, we exercise our feelings.


Anything in excess that we're doing, running, sex, eating, shopping, anything in excess means that there's trouble brewing right there. So I developed Type two diabetes, so I went and got gastric bypass because it helped me tremendously and helped me lose some weight. But I noticed after a couple of years, it started creeping back on because you don't just do the crazy surgery. Lose the weight and it just stays off forever, so I go, OK, I got to get it together.


So all the nutritionists, all the doctors, everything people have been saying to me, I need to finally do that. What if they're right? No wonder they all say the same thing. It's another one of those dumb moments, like a musician doing in order to have an entire person doing the judging talent show does makes too much sense. Yeah. So you see, we got a theme going here, guys.


So I said, OK, I looked at my countertop and I had 100 different bars. The vinyl, anything you see on TV, somebody says, well, you need three or you need a key one, will you need be one? I said to myself, I'm now confused. I'm so confused. I don't know what the hell I'm doing. And if I'm in it and this is my life and I'm trying to live the best of it, these people probably don't know either.


So that's what prompted me to get on this journey to try and figure it out. I went through dietitians. In fact, the nutritionist helped me tremendously. I had a bunch of team of doctors that I've seen for this Unified Health Labs. I just went in, man. I went in to try and solve my own puzzles, take it all myself for a year to make sure I did what I said it was going to do and helped me and then said, OK, cool, because I didn't want to be those fake out douchy guys or girls that are making up stuff, never using it.


So that's what really got me to going because I wanted to figure out a way to keep the weight off, eat healthy. That's why I laughed with my friend the other day. And we're talking about eating in the south of reference started at Mardi Gras time. There's this thing called the king cake. There's every sort of cake and pie in this cake. This is like the dance is sweetest cake for you.


Like, we're like, bro, remember when we used to eat there king cake. We get like a gallon.


Right? You know, what the hell were we thinking? We didn't know, you know. Yeah, I know. Now, again, the goals that we all generally have, they're not like I want to feel the best. It's I want to get this job. I want to make this money. I want to buy this car. I want to live in this house. And none of it's really like, how am I going to feel in any one of those situations?


And I'll tell you something else. Just go back to Ireland for a second. And this also helped me to lead to my weight loss journey. Colin, I would always say this. If you're going to dish it out, you've got to be willing to get it back. That's why all of these other shows that is so nice to the contestants. It just wasn't your day to day, Sam. Sorry, OK, we were like raw and honest.


That's also what made me great.


I'm going to tell you what I think is good. I'm going to tell you what I think is bad. I'm rolling no punches here, but we said if you dish it out, you've got to be willing to get it back. So if I say that was terrible and come at you with some kind of thing that I think is just being truthful, you might take it as an insult. So people will come on to the show and we're like, well, I think what was the girl's name?


Tomiko Tamiko. Whatever her name was. She said, Well, Randy, you're fat. I go, Yeah, I got mirrors in my house. I know that.


But, you know, but you know what I'm saying. That kind of guttural honesty.


Yeah, yeah. You'll see that on TV today, man. You'll see that stuff. Yeah. People are afraid of that. Let me just sugarcoat everything and we tell them the truth. No wonder nobody from these shows are winning or doing anything with the rest of their lives. Nobody is being honest with them. Yeah. Yeah.


Can I get you a little break on the king cake because you love it? Well, the more you eat of it, the more chance you are going to get the king. So you kind of had to be as many peas you're incentivized to fashion.


Yeah, yeah, I know.


But still, that's a good point man. I got ByDesign and you're incentivized to find milk. Get the king Monaca.


You gotta agree with me on something. Stores in the south, even the department stores. Publix in Atlanta where Publix. Yep. You never seen sweets like sweets there. Stuff out here is not as sweet. Oh for sure it is crazy. The fried, the salt. The reason we don't trust a skinny chef in Louisiana. You don't want to see condiments on the table. It means the chef didn't taste the food.


That's what we stand for. You said it to me. No one is salty enough. Hot enough. If you didn't do that, this is terrible food.


In fact, I wouldn't trust a restaurant where there was any food left. The chef should have eat it all because it was so damn good. Every time you go in, that is to go. No, he ate it all again. I go back. I'm going to eat here once. I bet it's incredible.


I'm saying not this stuff out here in L.A. where people you want no salt, no butter, no onions.


Well, every. One's even want to go bags because no one could get through it. Yeah, I don't see any to go bags in the south. No.


OK, so Randy name that tune is out January six, 9:00 p.m. on FOX. We get to see you play, which is very exciting. Yes. And we get to see Jane interact with everyone. She's phenomenal. We're huge fans. Jane is amazing. I think this is going to be awesome for you, for Fox. And I'm so excited to see it. So I hope everyone checks it out. January six on Fox at nine p.m..


Well, listen, DAX. Yeah. You got to promise me one thing. I can do it. If we ever do a celeb version of that tune, you got to come on and play it all. Come on, man.


Oh, absolutely. I give myself a four on the drums. I'm a four out of ten. So I can play.


I can play. I love I'm back.


I know what I could do that would trigger someone. It's we're not going to take it.


That drumbeat is so specific. My twisted sister. Yeah. Yeah. I think if I hit people with just a few of that we could get them there.


Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. We're not gonna take it.


No, we're not gonna take it up with that man now it's mine Cassard the bust Monica So get it Idol and get everything up to temperature. Monica's driving and people are jumping out of the way. You can be excited. Yeah Randy you've always been so sweet. When I bumped into you in real life you walk the talk and we thank you so much for being on. I hope everyone watches. Name that tune. Thanks brother. All right, we'll see.


I bump into you and then we'll do something that combines my automotive knowledge and your and our knowledge and we'll blow the lid off.


Dude, let's go, Dad. Come on, man. I appreciate you guys having me. Thank you. All right. Be well. Happy New Year, please, guys.


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And now my favorite part of the show, the fact check with my soulmate Monica Padman.


I know you hate when I ask you who's attractive and stuff and for good reason, but.


I don't think you would be hesitant to say kudasai best for you. I love Randy. You do. It was so fun watching you during the interview. You just had ugly.


He's so shiny and likable, positive, positive, just lovely energy. I could not believe it. Plus, on the energy for Randy Chod, I really liked it.


So we tell people really quick that I stupidly, when the first time I saw the email that was like, hey, we're adding Randy Jackson to the schedule for some reason in my head.


I had filed that as we were interviewing Alan Jackson, country star.


And so for like a week and a half, I was like, oh, wait, no, no, you're on the Chattahoochee. You get tighter than a huge cuchi. We laid rubber on the Georgia road, got a little crazy, but we never got caught.


And I was really prepared to talk to him about the huge. Yeah, the future from your home state.


My my home. My home state. Ding, ding, ding, ding. What a win for my home state. Big week for your home state.


Came through, came through for me, came through down, rolled right down the road, right down the hooch. Let's write down the hoochie anyways.


It was in my elementary school is called Chattahoochee Elementary. Oh yes.


Yeah. Well you know I love that song but I was glad it was Randy. Yeah, well I like both and I was it's not like I was disappointed it was Randy. It just what a mix up for me when I looked at the schedule like two days before, I'm like, oh, I'm already set for this interview. Yeah. Way down yonder.


But that would have been the whole interview. Yeah. Seems like we dodged a bullet there. I would have sang it to him six or seven times. You would have poked your eyes out with a needle.


Speaking of singing, Randy wanted me to sing and I didn't do it.


You could be a star right now. And you're not your fault. I do. You should.


Yeah, I regret that. There hasn't been to my knowledge, there hasn't been an Indian American pop star. This you could like, blaze a whole new trail.


My God, you know what? That is definitely never a job. I wanted a pop star. Yeah. Like, you know, like everyone likes to be like us, a pop star or a rock star. And never for me.


Britney Spears. Yeah, never for me. Me neither. I don't know if it's that I never wanted to or I just knew immediately that wasn't a job for me. So I never even entertain the fantasy. So, like, I can't sing. So I'm in a band though. Well, I played drums in a band, but it was just about fucking right with my buddies. The band was named Cowbell. Was Aaron in it? Yeah, of course.


He played the cowbell because he can't play an instrument.


Oh my God. I mean he since learned to play the drums, but at that time he could only play the cowbell.


Who sang I think Aaron Tyrel.


Wow. Yeah, it was terrible band, but we had fun. We played a Metallica cover for whom the bell tolls, but we changed it to for whom? The cowbell.


Oh my gosh. We did one show. It was really fun.


It was all the or all the songs about cowbell. Yeah. We changed all the way. Yeah.


And this was bring more cowbell. Not that one. Because that that's a disco song. Right. But you could have in my car.


Well also this was before the cowbell sketch. I want to be very clear. What's that.


The famous cowbell sketch from Will Ferrell on Saturday Night Live. You know what this song needs more cowbell. And it's all you need is a very famous sketch.


You would know it if you saw it. And every time he hits a cowbell, his belly comes out of the bottom of his shirt more and more. Christopher Walken is the producer and he keeps coming. And he's like, you know what?


The song needs more cowbell and then bring them back out. And, you know, as long as this cowbell is one of the best sketches of all time.


But our band cowbell predated that sketch.


Yeah. Do you think you influenced it?


Oh, and can I tell you what we had we had merch. You did. It was a pentagram with Elsie the cows face in the pentagram. So it looked like slayer but with Elsie the cow. Oh cowbell.


Really good Mirch good. Aaron Tirol all the way. He was a genius at that stuff.


Aaron Tyrrell is not best friend.


Aaron Weekly known in fact, I don't know have said it on here, but the group primarily was Aaron Weekly. Aaron Go Watch. And Aaron Tyrel. So obviously everyone there is just weekly tiro go watch. No one gets called Aaron back and I'm kind of surprised the name of the band wasn't just Aaron.


Aaron's in a D just Aaron, but I was.


I know, but you'd have to sacrifice for the greater good of Aaron. Yeah, fuck them.


I was already on number three to one. I feel bad for me. The band should be called the Dax's. Oh, the tax bells. Oh go on. Oh gosh.


Too bad. I know this impersonation is. Oh gosh. Oh, gosh, Mickey, Snoopy, Goofy. Oh, he says Gorshin, so that's good.


That does sound like him. Oh, Goresh ding, ding, ding. This is kind of like name that tune.


But in this case, it's impressions. You name that actor. Your character. My character. Name that character. Do another. OK, close your eyes. Oh, no fooling Mom.


Oh OK. You have to do if I would do the one that you haven't heard.


OK, ok. So I went down to the park and cleaned it up Navy SEAL style. When I won the election I proceeded to the hotel where I drank four bottles of Dom Perignon. Not Trump.


No Kristen's dad.


No Jesse Ventura. I'm not well versed in Jesse Ventura. I'm not good at this, just like I would be very bad at name that tune. Can we try one more just to see you? Yeah, OK. I'll do one that's like generic that I don't do well, but that I think he would get.


OK, let me think who that would be was to say. My my hair, my hair. Elvis, no. OK, I got moves the electrify. Yeah, I you had it, guy.


Yeah, my my head because it was this guy, it was like a 40 percent good position, but he's so distinct that you can get it. Yeah.


And the words you picked or helpful. They were dialogue. Yeah. So if you didn't get the impression you'd get it from the dialogue can you do a female one.


Yes. OK. OK.


Drew Barrymore, who is all I could do that one, Kim, you're wasting no biscuit, the whale shit, if I can remember the name of the whale from the movie Kristin did with her.


Oh, no. Don't go over there. I don't think it's going to be hard, though, to not give it away with the words she uses. OK, I can see. That's bad. Oh, Sarah Palin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I can do Audrey Hepburn, OK. Well, I fully support the show cause that's how she sounded in those commercials and in stand up comedians would say she sounded like a car starting now.


Audrey Hepburn, Katharine, whoever did the SPK commercials, I never heard that.


There's no way Audrey Hepburn sounded like that. She was like the most. She was like the most elegant woman alive.


Let's see, Audrey Hepburn dog commercials plays up or. Hmm.


I have to do some further research. I don't want to eat up all the time. I don't think it's her. Let me do Katharine Hepburn. Katharine Hepburn commercials, 13 million kids are dying year in and year out. Thirty five thousand a year to reach them before hunger and disease kills. Oh yeah. Oh, this is bad and expensive.


Smellers here's is bad. Well, I'm not saying anything mean about it.


I'm just saying this is the facts. This is what her voice sounds like and I have no judgment on it. It's a great voice. Obviously was in commercials.


Oh well. All right. OK, by the way, I think that was a that was an easy example. Like it got worse. Katharine Hepburn.


Oh, God. OK, OK, OK.


I just I think there's one that really isolates what I was saying. You know, I, I find that when you go out and I say good morning. Go, go, go, go.


Well, good morning. All right. Good morning. I have to really covered my face because I got to put my teeth out when I say good morning.


You got to admit I wasn't off on the person you are.


I mean, it's extreme. Well, all impersonations are OK. You're right. OK, sorry, Mrs. Epuron.


I always say yeah. You're saying I want to put the R before capron. Yeah, you do want to put it before Hepburn.


That's a Hepburn. Yeah. Hepburn it's a rough last name too, but boy, they overcame it. They were both such beauties. Beautiful, beautiful voices to watch your back.


OK, I remember when I told you the part that's hard is when I won't stop. Yeah. You want me to do another one.


No, no. A different one. OK, fine. One more.




Not getting into it, Ryan answered, as David Spade and David Spade as Dana Carvey, Ryan Hansen as David Carvey as George Bush, senior things are off the rails.


OK, OK. So Randall. Oh, that's me. Oh, that's cause people don't know Randall Shepherd.


I would have a different career, don't you think? If I was Randall Shepherd I'd be more in like westerns and stuff. Yeah.


Put your hands together for Randall Shepherd and I ride in on a horse. I can see that. Howdy, ladies and gentlemen. All right.


But you would be putting that on because you're not a cowboy. So then it becomes like you're a kind of a Milli Vanilli, like you're living a fake life. Well, you know, it's real.


And exactly like I've I've lived up to the name DACs, like you name me d'Arc. So I had to act like this.


If you named me Randall, I probably would have been into Ropen.


This is my naming is so scary. It is. If you name your kid Adolf, expect the worst. Probably don't name the mole clearly, but expect the worst. Yeah, that's what's always rough in those cource commercials.


Like they try to give you the history. Of course, it's like our founding father, William Adolph Couer and you're like, oh, leave out the eight.


Yeah, it's hard to get past. It was hard to get past Barack's middle name, Hussein.


That's why. Because of fucking the Saddam Hussein.


Yeah, those were of one of the like world bad guys had his middle name. Didn't bother me.


I mean, he overcame it, which is impressive again, just like happened.


And and yeah, they all have this and I'll be happy to have OK, name that tune.


He said fifties and sixties. Name that tune of the original show.


Nineteen fifty two.


There's been so many iterations of it.


I bet it's a great concert. It was on radio at first. Oh I believe that, yeah.


My mother was one years old when that came out.


Nineteen fifty to December. Mm.


She was one years old and three months. Wow.


When wonder she remembers.


Let's, let's get her on the phone. Oh so weird to think of your mom as a one year old.


It is. Yeah. Yeah. It's weird to think of your parents as babies. I know we're watching this show. I hate Suzy in the lead has a child, you know, and it did make me think like, oh, all my Piers's junior high students, they're just individual people and then they become moms. But nothing magical happens. They're just the kids still.


Yeah. I mean, I know that's a dumb observation, but I was thinking about it a lot, watching it.


It's like your cool friend who's a parent is just still the cool friend. But then now they they have this other role that's supposed to be done so well.


But yeah, I guess what I'm saying is there's no such thing as a mom or a dad. Is that does that point do you understand what I'm saying. Yeah. You don't go change your identity because you have a kid. People are people. But we look at moms and dads as if they're supposed to be this perfect thing.


We would never think our friends should be perfect. Right, right. Right, right. You mean if you're a kid?


Yeah, I like the concept of mom and dad. This is true are not human concepts.


They're like fairy tale concepts. They're supposed to be perfect.


Yeah. Dad's is a dude who paled around some people and he had kids. Old same guy.


My dad. Yeah. Shok he did it. He's just always been a dad.


Shok Randall Padman. OK, you said that spin the wheel wheel was really expensive. Do you know how expensive it was. I don't. Did you ask Andrew Glassman.


I don't know him. I don't know. I wanted to know him.


You should host a game show for him. I would love to. Oh, you'd be great at it. I guess I would get too into it. That's the dream.


Oh, they want you to get too into it. Really? Yeah. And you'd be a boss because you're so, so bossy and you get to shove everyone around over here now. No, you're supposed to be doing this and that thing, you know.


Oh, I would love to do that thing. OK, so TBD on how expensive the wheel is. Well, can you text him right now?


Sure. I wonder if he wants that info out there, but yeah, I'll I'll dictate live. So you know the exact question. I love Andrew Glassman. He is such as we are maybe the best boss I ever had. Hi, sweet friend.


Come on. Feel free to not give me this information. Come on. But I'm in the middle of a fact check and I told Randy Jackson that, ah, we'll cost a fortune, karma, pun intended period. Am I allowed to know how much that fucker cost to construct questionmark. I hope he's quick response. He willing. OK, well, well we'll keep going while we wait to hear.


Yeah. Please hold while I connect that call. But in the meantime I got another one I can do for you if you want to close your eyes. OK, ok. I knew this.


Farmer Davey, you had a pig, and he used to go over to this guy's house and sometimes he'd be playing with the pig and then, well, Dave, Jay Leno.


It does sound a lot like Jay Leno is Norm MacDonald. I sometimes do a better oh, I sometimes do a better Norm MacDonald.


That wasn't very good. All right. Now close your eyes, OK?


Welcome to The Tonight Show.


Come look at my guys. I got a lot of guys like Mike Tyson. Oh, no, I'm putting an end to this.


OK, I've got a response from Andrew Glassman by the team that built the London Eye.


It was more than a million dollars.


Wow, wow, wow, wow. It was huge.


It was four or five stories.


There was only two soundstages in all of L.A. that could accommodate this wheels. And luckily, it was at my favorite one.


Yeah, closest one to your house. Yeah. Well, one of so use of the idol was one of the top five cultural phenomenons. So I just thought it would be interesting to see what people thought were the top pop culture moments of the past decade. Oh, we're in a new decade. OK. OK. In 2010, Lady Gaga wears a dress made of meat at the MTV Video Music Awards. Very memorable, very 2010 to 2019.


Beyonce becomes Beyonce.


What's interesting, you know, this feels like a very arbitrary place, but please continue. It's from Forbes. Oh, OK. 2011 Game of Thrones premieres on HBO.


And go with that high and get behind it.


Oh, this one for sure. 2011, Prince William and Kate Middleton get married.


Royals the crown meaning 2011. Fifty Shades of Grey is released.


That was a that was a big pop culture o 2011 Harry Potter and.


Oh yeah. Yeah. You've been happy since have you know, ten years.


Well, this 2012 Girls premieres on HBO. Hey. 2013, Netflix releases House of Cards o 2013, Prince George's born. No, I mean, these aren't real.


2013. Miley Cyrus talks on stage with Robin Thicke at the 2013 MTV Music Awards. That was there was memorable Video Music Awards O 2014. Ellen DeGeneres takes an epic Oscar selfie.


Oh, I remember that. And that was a buy was are you in it? I think I was.


There is Cooper. Cooper is in it. Yeah, I was there. We were. That's the night that Brad Pitt told me he liked hit and run.


Brad is in this picture. It has Bradley Cooper, Jennifer Lawrence, Meryl Streep, Julia Roberts, Brad Pitt, Kevin Spacey. Oh, Whoopsies.


And some people I can't Mhlongo, Harvey Weinstein.


I don't think so. But that's that's definitely in here, although I guess it wouldn't be pop culture.


But 2014 cereal debuts as a part. That's how our friendship really took hold.


2014, Kim Kardashian appears on the cover of paper. Do you remember this?


Oh, sure it does. I know that it really oiled up. Oh, 2015. Hamilton opens on Broadway. Oh, that's a good one. Memorable twenty fifteen.


Bruce Jenner comes out as Caitlyn Jenner on the cover of Vanity Fair. Yeah. Ding 2016, Leonardo DiCaprio wins an Oscar. OK, that's I mean, cool, he deserves it, but.


Right, but is that whatever, you know, 2017, Donald Trump becomes the president of the United States. Yeah, he did.


Remember that two thousand seventy in la la land slash moonlite Oscar mishap.


Now, that was kind of memorable. But in in I mean, that's that's.


Yeah. Twenty seventeen. Harvey Weinstein is accused of sexual abuse by multiple women. There we go. There it is. There it is. 2018, Prince Harry and Meghan Markle get married. The Crown Royals. Ding, ding, ding. The fourth thing about the royal family, this list.


Twenty, eighteen. Kim Kardashian and Kanye West visit the White House separately. OK, so that's two. They have two. Now, there's a race between the Royals and Kardashian.


Oh. Now, will we include Caitlyn Jenner? Oh, yeah, absolutely. We got a two way tie, the Kardashian family versus the royal family.


That's right. 2019 college admissions scandal. Oh, that was hot. That was hot issue. 2010 to 2013, celebrity deaths.


It's my honor that.


Oh, that's all. I guess the crown and the crown are tied, I guess. So there's something kind of poetic about that.


The Russians are our royals in some way.


Yeah, I'm not even going to expound on it, the similarities, but I could. Yeah, but I understand from Kristen that Kim is a really nice person who is sincerely dedicated to prison reform. Yeah. Exonerating wrongly convicted criminals. Yes.


And I think Kristen wanted to implore her to help on something. And I guess she got back to her in like two seconds and really hope so.


Yeah. So I got no, I, I can't really say anything. No.


By the way, obviously I love the royals. I love the crown. I'm not I'm not making a bad parallel, but I'm I am making one that we've heightened people. Yeah.


Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Yeah.


Kim Kardashian on Letterman's show is a really good interview. I got to watch that. I really.


And I'll see you in. How long is it? We'll be right back an hour. OK, OK.


DAX is back. Oh, we're back. That was great. Great rack. Thank you.


And that's all.


Well, that was great. We learned a lot. We learned a lot.


And I don't agree with much of what we learn. Surprise. Ding, ding, ding. All right. Love you. Love you.