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What is up, daddy gang? It is your single father, Alex Cooper. We call her dad. Daddy. Oh, did I miss you bitches?

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What the fuck is up daddy gang?

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It is your founding father daughter for another episode of Call her daddy.

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What the hell is up, guys? A giraffe's asshole.

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That's what's up. Alex, dare you to ask us one more time. What's up? I kind of hate when people like what's up? I hope the Daddy gang is feeling dille status today. I hope you are having an unbelievable week. And if you're not, guess what, motherfuckers? It's fucking Wednesday. It doesn't matter now. It's a good fucking day. Welcome to call her daddy this week. You know, it's not going to be about Mr.

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Sexy Zoome, man. Also, anyway, a medium that's like I always thought it was Mr. Zuman like he works at a zoo. I'm like, have you bitches been listening to the podcast? Don't hate that. Don't hate that. Never fucked a man that worked at a zoo. I'll put down my fucking list anyways. This is not about Mr. Sexy Zoo man, but the zoom aspect is going to be all encompassing this week because I did my first zoom interview since Dave Portnoy.

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That's how long ago I don't love doing interviews because I can't get close enough to finger them and but fuck them under the table during the interview. So it's been kind of a journey to get my comfort level up while I'm doing interviews over Zoom. But this was an exception because this woman is very, very good friends with my dear, dear, dear, dearest friend and Berner fan, mother fucking favorite.

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You guys know Hannah. She has told us her unbelievable stories about fucking that mascot roar.

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I know the girl, but you get the point. She has been an icon on this podcast. Everybody loves Hannah. And as I've gotten to know Hannah, I've also stalked her on social media. And I've seen that she's got this little Brunet friend.

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And this Brunet friend's name is Paige to Sorbo.

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And I have stalked her and I have looked at her Instagram and I have hated her because her Instagram is so curated. It makes mine look like a fucking five year old that that's colorblind. And so I look at Page and I'm like, oh, my God, she looks like the kind of girl that needs to come on, call her daddy and just have some girl talk with us. She is sassy. She is fun. She is on reality television.

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If you watch Summer House, if you don't, that's OK, because she is so much more than just a reality television face. That's an accomplished woman businesswoman. She is twenty eight years old. She's thriving. She's successful. She lives in New York City and she is fucking beautiful. Introducing the one the only page, Dessau Bhau.

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So I have so many things that we're going to talk about today. First, we have to explain, like Paige and I basically were face timing yesterday before we had this interview.

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I like to do that with my guests because I just want to, like, be on a closer level before we get on here and talk about, like, deep, deep shit, which I love because I was actually really nervous.

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Yeah. So it's. Oh, yeah, that's OK. And I remember Hannah saying the same thing and I'm like, I'm not trying to ruin your life. I actually want to have like a fun conversation.

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I'm not trying to exploit you. Right. And also maybe it's like a backwards thing that I want you to feel more comfortable with me and then you will exploit yourself. But like, who knows?

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OK, so you're smart. You're smart. Right. Right. So Paige and I are talking. And first and foremost, just like lay it out for you guys listening.

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We don't technically know each other. We've never met in person, but we kind of know each other through through two avenues. One is through Hannah and then the other is through your ex-boyfriend.

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Yes. Which is such a crazy story. We I want us to both tell it from our POV because I didn't know, OK, so I didn't know if Paige knew this. And so I was like I was on face time with her and I'm like, OK, like, listen, like I just want to like ask if we can talk about this on the podcast.

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I know sort of know your ex-boyfriend and I don't know if she knew. And all of a sudden I felt the need to clarify, like I haven't fucked him. I promise I haven't fucked him. Like, fuck, I know how that sounds so bad. So this is my part of the story. OK, then you're going to tell yours.

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So all the way back to when I was living and like the infamous we call it like the 301, that was where I was like living with rats. Like Paresh had no money living with two roommates, like I was living in a closet. Every time I brought a guy back, there were like, oh my God, this is the cutest closet. Where is your bedroom? I'm like, I better go fuck yourself. Like, it was that type.

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But those are usually like the best I feel like I get. So then I it was before I started the show I wanted to get on Rhia. Everyone wants to get on Mariah. And I remember putting in my application and the minute that I got accepted it was like all of us, the three of us in the house were like, oh, we're now on like all of us are going to use it. And you know how in New York, like, I almost wanted it more for a connection to men and their friend group rather than just like a dating, you know what I mean?

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Like New York is so like like you wanted a circle.

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You want a circle. Have got. Yeah, I got it. Yes. And so then why not Rhia where they're like rich and successful, like an added bonus. Added bonus. So I go on Rhia and one of the first guys I see is soon to be your ex-boyfriend.

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And I remember I kept seeing him and then my other roommate got on Bryar and I don't remember who matched with him, but maybe both of us. Yeah, I think it was the both of us. Yeah. And he was one of those guys that always had plans. Every time we messaged him, he was like, we're going to be here with my friends, blah, blah, like perfect guy. Yeah.

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But we never ended up meeting up with him. And I remember I'm pretty sure I have his number somewhere in my phone and we texted like one. Oh like like he was like, you were here tonight, you want to come. And we were getting ready and we chose different plans and it was just not meant to be. Fast forward to me seeing Hannah and stalking her life and then seeing you. And I remember seeing him on either your Instagram show or whatever and being like, oh, my God, did I fuck up?

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Oh, my God. Like, is he such a good student? Because, you know, when like a high school day to do that, you never went for your life goes up.

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Right? I was like, fuck. Like, did I fuck up? And like, he's got is like hot car and like, oh shit. And I'm like, whoa, like this girl. It's like she's living the life. And I was single at the time. I was like, did I fuck up.

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You're like, that could have been me. Right. OK, so my point of view on this story is, OK, I was friends with him for a while and I was like in that friend group. He has an amazing friend group.

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We always had plans, we were always doing things.

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And then all of the sudden I was like, I think I like him. Like I think I want to date him. But we were such close friends that, like, I knew everyone he was sleeping with, like I knew what dates he was going out on. So I had to pretend like that didn't bother me. And I will never forget the day that he was like, guess who I met with on Rya? And I know who. And he goes, Alex Cooper.

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And I was like, fuck, I call.

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I called my mom and I go, I can't tell him now that I like him because it's going to look like I just don't want him to go out on a date with this, like, super hot blond because because I always was like, deep down, your type is blonds like I am.

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I'm not your type. And he's like, no, no, no. Like, I don't really have a type.

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So I remember when that happened.

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Then he matched with your friend and I was like, fuck, like, she kind of looks like me. She's a lot more successful. Like, there's no way he's going to.

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Take me over these two girls and then for whatever happened, like you guys never met up or just like was never meant to be, and then we started dating and I was like, that was a.

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So it was a close one. So thank God we always went on different plane. Yes. That is so great. The fact that you called your mom. I was like mom. And she was like, who are they? Like, let me see a picture.

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And she was like, oh yeah, they let me do it. It's so crazy because we were talking about this like hot New York is so small, so small.

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It's actually parents think it's not and it's so small and so having like I saw him like 19 million times on Rhia and he was like the real man to me at that point. Yeah. And he does have a good radio profile. I will. He does. Yeah, he does. So you didn't meet him, all right?

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I didn't meet him on Rhia. I met him. Oh, my God. Probably in like 2015. I had just gotten single and I went to a Halloween party at his apartment and I walked into the apartment and I was with a group of my friends and we didn't even see the guys that were in there yet because we only knew one guy there.

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And I walked in and I said, dibs on whoever owns this apartment. And my friends were like, you can't call dibs. And I was like, I just did. I just did. Because whoever apartment this is, I want them. Yeah. I was like, this is my life. Now tell me first, look where you're from, where you went to college, how old you are.

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OK, so I'm from upstate New York, from Albany. I went to college in Albany and this really small school called St. Rose, I lived at home for college, so I didn't have, like, the typical, like, crazy college. I was in a sorority type thing and I'm such a relationship girl that I had a boyfriend all through college. So I'm twenty eight.

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I moved to New York like the month after I graduated college.

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I was like twenty two and I just I went off like I went crazy because it was the first time I'd like lived on my own.

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I lived with two girlfriends for the first year and then I moved out when our lease was up, lived by myself. And I've lived in New York now for almost six years.

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The fact that you didn't have a conventional college experience makes so much sense that then you get to New York City and that's almost like you're treating it like your college.

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Absolutely. I went out every single night, like Monday nights, like industry night was my night. I was like, if I am not a catch at Monday night at 10:00 p.m., like, what am I doing?

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When am I actually doing what?

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Do you have a job at the time? No, I had no job. My parents were like helping with rent. My parents were financing everything for me. They were like, we're giving you six months and if you can't figure it out in six months, you have to come home. So like month five, I was like, fuck, like, I need to figure this out. I ended up getting a job. I interned for a little and then I ended up getting a job at ABC News as an assistant.

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And I was like, OK, great. Now I can, like, pay my own rent, like, I'll be fine.

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I remember I had a sales job at a magazine and I was making no money. I could barely afford rent and I couldn't pay like from a paycheck that I got at my job that wouldn't even equate one paycheck like rent. And so I would have to call my grandmother and my dad and, like, schmooze with them and be like, Hey, Dad, like, what's up?

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And he's like, Alex, I'll put like five hundred dollars in your account.

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Like, I love I got my first paycheck in New York and I called my mom and I go, Mom, I think I have to call H.R. like they took a ton of money out, like what's going on? She goes, hi, that's called taxes. And I was like, is anyone talking about this? And she goes, I don't know. Only the whole country, like, get it together. And I didn't know my Social Security number literally until like last year that I memorized it.

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I had to save my in my phone. I was like a contact, like social. And my dad's like, that's the dumbest thing you can do on, like, how am I supposed to memorize? Yeah. They're like my mom thinks someone's going to get your phone. You're going to get I'm like, it's OK if there's no money to steal from you. No one wants my identity right now. Four dollars, dude.

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Until this past year I was doing my taxes on Turbo Tax by myself. I'm a walking out of Turbo Tax.

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I always say, like, my biggest fear is going to jail for tax evasion just because I'm dumb, like not because I'm trying to get one over on any one paid page.

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It would literally be for like a couple hundred dollars. Like no one gives a fuck. I got so nervous too. I'm like, oh my God, I think I forgot. Like, this one check I got from, like an influencer company back in the day when I did, like I like a big energy out. No I never that and people only that's a couple hundred dollars like no one's coming off to you. I'm like thinking OK. Yeah but it is so scary.

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No glad we went over our taxes. I mean is everyone happy that we went over that dude.

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I will never forget. This is the shit where you're when you're like poor in New York. I had I remember always my pay you got here pages. Cameras flipped upside down, OK? When I was in New York and it was really desperado time, yeah, ramen noodles, I was on unemployment checks like it was dark. I remember I started going out with this one promotor, dude, all the time because I was, like, raging my face off.

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Yeah. I was just trying to, like, live my best life, but it was like so grimy. And he talked about the model apartments.

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Have you ever heard of them in New York? I've heard of them. I've never been to one, though, OK?

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I have never been to one, but I've seen pictures. And so dating, if you I think it's kind of interesting, like, so we would be going out and no one knows that this is like a thing in New York, right.

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Yeah, right.

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Every time you go out there's like the hottest girls, like so fucking skinny, just like standing there looking like they haven't eaten in ten days.

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They all miserable, they look miserable, miserable. And so they're standing there. And I remember as I got closer to this promoter who honestly was the weirdest man I've ever met in my life, they usually he offered me and my old roommate to come into the model home.

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We kind of question, do we really hold on? You don't have to pay rent. Yeah, you don't have to pay rent. But then he was like, yeah, but you have to come out and party five nights every single night. Yeah.

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You and it was like, oh, and I remember like I thought because I remember they showed me this like WLOX ass apartment because like the building was locked and then the girl showed me pictures and they had like bunk beds like stacked in this place, bunk beds.

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I was like, well, it's actually really sad, right?

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Like it's almost like a form of like like having a pimp. Like it's like, wait, I don't want to be forced to go out anywhere.

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I don't want to be. I'm like, I'm sure in the beginning that's so fun. But after like two weeks I be like, brah, I got to lay on my bed.

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And I remember I went to like Bandel one night for drinks and like dinner Apria, you know, and they.

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Oh, all right, Vandal, is it over? I think so. Oh, wait. Really, I think close.

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I feel like I drove by like a couple of weeks ago and there's like graffiti like I never heard of. Yeah.

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Up and down. That's over. Wait why. Yes. So sad is a pop off.

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It opened up and down was a place. A place.

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So I'm not vandal and there's all these girls that look as if they are ready to just end it all. Yeah.

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And I'm getting concerned one bad day away from just cutting it off. They're gone. Yeah. One day you never see them again. Ever. And I'm like finally I'm like asking because now I've gone out two nights in a row. I'm like, are you OK? Just one girl. And she was like, this is my fifth night out. And I'm just like so exhausted I don't want to be here. And she said to me, none of us drink.

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We never drink any more. When we come out, we are miserable and like we hate our lives. And I was like the one that's like getting blasted because I'm like, I'm not here. Yeah, you're like a model that's getting paid to be here. And I just remember, like, it was so sad to see those girls, like, having to do that. But like, it is like when you're when you don't have money like I considered it, you got to respect the hustle.

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No, I, I liked it though. I'm like, look, if I couldn't figure it out and thank God I have like a family who like if something happened, like they would help me, but I'd be like, fuck yeah. Why would I not do that. There's so many times where like people will do me for feet pictures and like I really contemplated like dude I had like three grand.

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I'm like, shut up.

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Oh my God. Who gives a fuck if I guys anybody out there wants pictures right in my fucking ass. I just want to make sure that I'm not getting like catfish and they're like, I'm going to send pics. And then they're like, don't send me money. Right.

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Let's talk about your life in quarantine. You're single right now. I'm single right now. How long have you been single?

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I've been single for six months.

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September, October, November, December, January. Yeah, six months.

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And how long did it take you to get back into the dating game?

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Oh, Alex took me. Let me see. Forty eight hours. So not great.

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Not great. My ex was like, I don't love this.

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And I was like I got to go. Yeah I do love this. This is great for me. Yep.

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Took me a cool 48 hours to be like wow this is, I missed this. Tell me about your roster. Like now that you're back single, tell me about your dating process and like, are you on dating app? How many people are you talking to? Give us the whole scoop.

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OK, so I am on dating apps. I'm unhinge and Rhia hinges trash trash. You trash people.

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I just I just like to see like what people look like and I'm like, no, no, no.

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So I've never matched with anyone on hange. I've never like gone on a date with anyone on unhinge.

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I have in my like career of dating, I've probably been on radio for like I don't know, maybe like three or four years now.

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I've only ever gone on two dates and they were actually pretty good.

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So the first guy was very good looking on his profile. And for some reason, like I didn't Google him, which is so out of character for me.

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We get out on the date and this is pre summer house. We're sitting out on the date. We're like at some like pizza place or something.

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And this girl leans over to him and goes, I just want to let you know, like, I love I love you so much. And I was like, yo, who the fuck is this guy?

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You're like, I have to pee so bad. Yes, the bathroom, run to the bathroom. Google.

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He's like some actor on an NBC show. We probably went on like five dates total the sweetest. He was great.

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I wonder if we went on the same date with the same man. What was his name? We he was. He's on a show, right? Yeah. He's does he play a doctor. Yeah. Stop, stop, stop is his first name. Yes dude.

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Wait OK, we were, we are ok.

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He I remember he was the sweetest guy, the sweetest. I was like this is my husband, I like this is who I should love. He's there's just, it's just ok. I remember my date with him was I'm pretty sure this is serial killer, which I would never usually do. But I think because he was a famous actor, like I didn't feel like he was going to kill me right now with the Armie Hammer shooting, like maybe you never really know.

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So I showed up to his apartment in Brooklyn, his apartment. I was like artsy fartsy, like Lux, living like upstairs don't the whole thing.

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And so we had, like, one of the most, like, romantic nights, like making you drinks. Right. Like the books, the whole the whole thing. He was like and then like a cigaret out the window, I was like vibe as fuck page. When I tell you he did the same exact thing, he opened the window. You sit on the couch, you sit on the ledge. Stop. I'm dead right now. I'm doing does he do this to every girl?

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He must. But like, here's the thing. When we stop talking, I was never, like, mad at him because I was like, you know what? I fuck with you. And if you ever call me again, I will meet up with you, dude. Right.

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I remember the first date we laid in his bed. We only made out we watched a movie. And then before I left, it was the randomizing. But he was like, do you want a luggage bag?

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I was like, sorry, sir, I are you blocking out? Like and he was like, I got an extra away luggage bag from this company. Would you want it? Like, I have too many of them. And meanwhile I'm still porous. Yes. Moment.

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So I'm like, yes, I was like trying to act all suave and like I mean, like, I don't know the media.

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Like if you don't have room for it, like, I'll I'll take it off your hands literally.

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Really good. TJ Max. When it's like fully disintegrating and I'm like sweating like wanting it so bad.

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So he gives me an away thing. I left that night and then we went on one more date and we just went for like a brunch. And I remember after that thinking this dude is so nice.

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But there was just something, something I don't know what it is, but like the nicest and I could see me like being friends with him and like. Randomly, he'll send me a DM or like like a picture or something, I'm just like I like. How did it right. How did it go with you guys?

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So we had gone we went on our first date like a dinner date and we. Oh, my God, I'm so sorry. It's OK.

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If it's Hannah, it is Handlock.

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Right. Anna, stop calling Paige. OK, getting jealous, getting jobs.

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So we had gone on our first date. We went on a dinner date, which was how I was like realized who he was because I'd never watched the show that he was on.

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So I didn't know. And then we went on a second date. He took me to a play. Oh, I know. And like, usually so not me.

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Like, if someone was like, hey, you want to go to a play like right now. So we go to the bowling alley. Yeah. And in like the intermission of it, he looks at me and he was like, this is lame, you want to get out of here.

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And I was just like, I'm wet. Yeah. I was like, yes. So we go back to his apartment.

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I don't sleep with him. He asked me to, like, run lines with him.

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And I was like, stop. I was like, I'm a movie star now.

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Now I'm pretty sure he asked me to do the same thing because he is the script. Yes, the paper do it. It's literally like a dream, but also not scary because when you're saying these things, I'm like, yes, yes, yes, yes.

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OK, so I'm like I'm like in my head. I'm like, what dress am I wearing to the Emmys this year? Like, obviously I am his date to the Emmys, then I think I hung out with him one more time.

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It was like a snowstorm storm and I like took my ass on the subway to Brooklyn in a snowstorm. And that was like the night I slept over. And then I woke up the next morning, he had to, like, go film super early. So I left it like 6:00 a.m. and like, never really talked to him again. Like, yeah. Like he did it. You did he not reach out or you did it?

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I think he he reached out. This is so long ago now, but he reached out the next morning like, hey, like did you get home OK?

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And I was like, yup. And we chatted for like a little and then he just like never hit me up again. And I certainly wasn't going to ask him to hang.

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He's one of those guys that's so it's like Daddy can think of a guy that's like so perfect on paper, so perfect. Your parents would love him. I told my mom about him obviously.

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Of course. Right. Right.

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But then there's something that. Like the spark. Yeah. Just like a good guy. Yeah. Good guy. I hope he finds the love of his life, you know, like I wish good things for him.

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Mine ended because I remember he wanted to go to like away. It's like upstate New York or something.

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He probably did that to you too, because he's buying a house. Did we dated at the same time? And this was probably like three years ago. We yeah, I'm. And he's trying to but he's trying to buy a house in upstate New York. I don't think he ever bought it. OK, OK, good to know.

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No, that was OK.

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So you are fully single right now. Fully single. Tell me about the dating life. So the dating life.

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I like to keep a healthy, healthy bench, a healthy roster. I always I feel like a mom because I'm always like I'm only as happy as like my least happy one, you know.

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Oh, so like I like to give them all happy.

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But recently I cleared them all. I was just like, I don't fuck with any of you anymore.

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Wow. I had like four guys that I was talking to.

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We why? I don't really know. We'll never get to the bottom of it.

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You didn't ask, did you? Did you just, like, text it one day and you stopped answering. So we were texting normally one day and then he just like stopped answering and then a few days went by. And so I sent the follow up text like, hi, remember me? Like, hello.

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Like, is this thing on? Like, what's going on? You there and never responded.

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And I was like, OK, well then so he left. I had gotten rid of one of my other guys because he had like just gotten out of a really serious relationship. I could tell he just like want to have fun and like totally we had a lot of fun, but there wasn't enough spark to, like, keep going. And course, yeah, I was just like, you're like cool and like, I'll answer your tax bill.

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Like we're probably never going to chill again, like one on one. OK, that makes sense. Yeah. Worth the sex. Right. And you'd rather be home with your vibrator than like having him over. Right.

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I'm like I really just like I want to do my skin routine and not feel weird. Like putting pimple cream on at your apartment. So like I'm going to stay home totally.

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And then I have another guy who's like, great, super nice. Shows me a lot of attention, but I'm just in this mood where I'm like, I don't want to be someone's girlfriend. Like the thought of someone being like, hey, this is my girlfriend Paige. Mm. Not right now. Doesn't work. It doesn't work for me.

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It doesn't vibe for me right now. Didn't you tell me you're hooking up with a guy that's like younger.

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So I was hooking up with a guy who was younger.

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He was two years younger than me, which I don't need it. It's fascinating because he was like the first guy I'd hooked up with since breaking up with my older boyfriend. So it was like such a switch.

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Oh, and they're they're like pros of hooking up with someone younger or your age.

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But then there's, like, such a long con list. We would have so much.

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On going out, but there's just something about guys your age where I'm like, well, do you have like a plan like but then those were things that I hated when I dated someone older because he would be like, do you have a plan?

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I'm like, shut the fuck up. No way. Oh, dude. Dating an older guy. It's so crazy because you go in waves like you want to date the older guy because like you said, they have plans and it's hot that they like they know the places to go and the reservations and they have the pool and they have the money in the cars and the apartment and all the nice things. And you kind of feel so like, oh, my God.

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And this little dainty bitch, the next few minutes, fucking G wagon, we're rolling around town and I don't have to do anything yet. But then when they start to turn to you in that car. Yeah. Look you in your soul and say so I could see myself marrying you.

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Where are you at girlfriend. Yeah.

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You're like, excuse you. I mean, my ex was amazing, like he really was. He's like the most perfect. But when he would challenge me with, like, you know, like if you became a mom, you probably can't like, stay up till 4:00 a.m. anymore. And like he would just like say certain things that like had me thinking. And then like, if you tell me to do something, I have to now do the opposite of 100 percent.

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I'm like, I have I have a dad, so I don't.

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And he really likes me. So I don't need you to tell me. Well, do like I'll figure it out.

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It's that's so true too, because then the older guy, it's like you, you start to love the idea. But then immediately once you break up with the older guy, I remember breaking up with an older guy and immediately wanting to be like, should I like fuck like a guy that just got out of college just because, like, I want to go to the grungier. I want him to like want to show up for me if you feel like you're better than them.

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Yeah. And that's like no one talks about that feeling. Like when I'm with a guy and I know for a fact that like I've lowered my standards to be with him, I'm like, I like you don't even give a fuck.

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I don't give a shit. Like, I like the pimple cream on. Like, what are you going to do about it, bro? You're not going to. Right. I'm going to put my pimple cream on while you eat, know I'm going to be relaxed. Right. He's so chilling. Right. Totally. Yeah, like, I just want to know, like to have fun, because that's what we were saying, we were like a part of me sometimes just wants like a guy that has a good group of friends that doesn't put pressure on me.

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And it's just like a good go to time.

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That's all I want right now.

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And I really is so small that it's like if you're with one guy in one group, like everyone knows you're hooking up and and like, that's one of my rules that it took me a little while in New York to learn that, like, every guy knows each other and you can only sleep with one guy in clearly a story behind that telling me the story.

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You're like, all right, thanks for calling. Yo yo.

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This is probably one of my best New York City stories. My girlfriend's like I always tell this story to whoever wants to hear it.

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I'm reclining. I'm ready.

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So I was probably like twenty three, twenty four. And I met this guy, gorgeous, six to my dark hair, dark eyes, beard dressed, impeccable.

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His apartment. Oh, downtown Soho. I was just like, I love you, I love you. I will do whatever you want me. He would hit me up at two a.m.. Hey, come over. I'm putting my sweats on. I'm coming. I'm ready. I like I just wash my makeup off. I'm putting it back on only for you only.

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So one night he was supposed to meet me out and for whatever reason I felt like he was getting distant, felt like he was getting back with his ex girlfriend, didn't really know what was happening. He never shows up.

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So because he didn't have, like, a crazy college experience, I'd never had a one night stand.

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And this is the only time I'd ever done it. And I'm out with my girlfriends. I forget where we even were. I think we're at Acme.

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Oh, yeah. It's weird. It's weird. You have no cell phone service. Shit gets weird. It was just starting to do shit and like really run for things you would never, never no one can contact me. I'm down here, I'm going for it. I might as well be in a different country. Like the time zone is probably different.

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Like acne is like I do miss. It's a rare breed. It's a rare breed. So I'm standing there and some guy is standing at a table next to me. And I could just tell that we were both like looking at each other. And I was like, whatever.

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So I we go over to his table, were chatting. He's like, my apartment is like pretty close.

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I don't think it was like literally in Queens. You're like, right. Yeah, we go and I'm like with my one girlfriend. She's like, whatever, just like go back to his apartment. This guy's not even going to text you. He's probably with another girl like you deserve it. So I go back to this guy's apartment, I sleep with him, I wake up the next morning and I'm like, I want to kill myself. Like, OK, I'm like, I got if I don't get out of here in four seconds, I remember him being like, So what's your number?

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And I was like, probably no, no, probably not. I don't know where my phone is. It's still like we got to go by. I can't remember. I'm like, I don't know. So I leave.

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I'm in an Uber back to my apartment.

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The original guy texted me, hey, it'd probably be cool if you didn't go out and sleep with my best friend and it my whole body shuts down my and my stomach falls to my but like I'm like I'm going to throw up.

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So he, I texted him back and I'm like, what are you talking about? And he goes, first of all, Page, I fell asleep last night. And second of all, one of my best friends just called me and goes, Oh my God. I hooked up with, like, such a great girl last night. Like, I mean, I think I'm going to take her on a date and I go, what's her name? And he said, Your name.

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And I was like, Oh, you're like, that was it me, though? That was me. Ask him for my number. He probably he even half the number that wrong girl. Wrong, wrong. I never spoke to him again.

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And it was it pains me to this day to know that I fucked up so badly like that and I've never had a one night stand ever again. Yeah, it was the truth.

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My mouth is wide open because I feel like I've had a similar situation where the fact that you were already feeling so shitty about yourself, you're in that Uber being like, I need to take seventeen showers and I need to pray to the mother of God that I completely can erase this at some point in my life. You feel gross.

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Gross. I was like my mom didn't raise me like that. I don't just sleep with guys. I mean I was like, this is disgusting. Just like the guy you met at Achmea is like you're like you're in the basement.

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You wake up. He didn't even look the same. The fact that I do not know. It's awful. And so and also, I hate those where I've done this before. You're out and you're sad about another guy not answering you. So you think the good thing to do is to go with another dude, but really it's just go the fuck. Yeah, just go half right. And the fact that he was just sleeping, just sleep, he was I mean was that we don't actually know.

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He probably doesn't just sleep, but like for the. A story and like he looks better than he probably did, like, yeah, it was trauma then you never heard from him again?

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Wina I never heard from him again and I would like to see him out because New York again, is so small and like now if I ever see him like we say hi.

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But yeah, just over it. Over.

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Those are the worst. I'm so sorry for you because like I've done some fucked up shit, especially when you're intoxicated and you think you're doing the right thing and it's just like you just fuck yourself over, OK? Paige, what is your routine when you're like when you're going to, like, sleep with a guy?

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Like I have said on my podcast, like it's not a religious thing. I just don't usually fuck guys on the first date only because you it depends. Like, usually it's because I'm going into it with like a specific mindset, like I want to trap this man and I want to do it in like a very calculated way. I've now told my best friend Lauren, who's single, because she was like, oh fuck. Like, should I not fuck on the first date?

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I'm like, Lauren, you're looking to just have sex. Absolutely. Fuck on the first date. Find out what his dick is like, find out what his dick seems like. And then if you don't like it, get out and go to another one.

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But what's your size? So it definitely took me a few years to, like, figure out my dating style. And I it does. You're right. It depends on what you want from that man. Like, if you go out on a date and you're like, damn, I really like him, like, I want to hang out with him.

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My rule is don't sleep with him. At least until like after the third date. Three dates is usually my rule.

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Now, have I slept with people way too soon? Absolutely.

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Like everyone gets too many tequilas like but there are guys that like if you sleep with them on the first date, they don't give a shit like if they really like you and it's meant to be, it'll, it doesn't matter. But a lot of my guy friends, which is such a double standard, they obviously want to sleep with you on the first date.

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But if you let them, even though they're fucking trying to, if you let them, they're immediately turned off.

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It's so annoying because like my guy friends will say this to me and I'm like, OK, so if it's going to turn you off that they sleep with you on the first date, then why are you trying to sleep with them?

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And they're like to see if we can.

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And I'm like, oh, that's infuriating to me. But a part of me also thinks if you do on the first night, if you are the specific girl that can play it the right way. Yeah. Minute after you fuck. Yeah. And you do it not to like quickly where you like get up and you act like I do this all the time and you basically get up, wipe yourself off with your hands on the carpet dude. See around.

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Imagine wiping yourself and then putting it on as I just had a vision of me doing that and like I kind of want to try it at some point. Right. Like I don't know man. Yeah, I'm good. Thank you. Can I ask you what is like a little too suave where they're like, whoa, like she's got a sister. Yeah. But if you linger too long and then you're Miss Clingy, they're like, Kate, you were just so lazy.

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Like you do this with every guy also and like you're like trying to wife like I'm trying to like not wake you up. Yeah. There's got I think there's a very specific way to girls if you ever do fuck them on the first time and then you're like, fuck, I think I like this. Yeah.

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It's got to be a really suave way which I can talk about another episode, but like specifically waiting a little bit longer and then getting up and being super like acting like you never did this before without saying I never do this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you leave. So you see you usually wait a little bit if you think he has potential.

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If I think he has potential, I will wait until the third date because then at that point they're so into you like they want to sleep with you so badly and I just feel like it makes it better. I love sexual tension, like the buildup up I feel like is the best part of it.

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And like I love a chase just as much as guys do, but like it's different for girls.

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Like if I want to sleep with him, I know I'm going to be no one's going to say no, like that's a guy.

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But I love like the are we are we not. What's it gonna be like? Is it like the sexual tension? So my role is the third date.

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Have you ever had one of those things where you think like, damn, we should have just left it at sexual tension? Was there ever someone in a group that you ended up hooking up with and you were like, why? We I almost liked the flirting stage more than, like, the actual act of doing it.

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Wow. That's a really good question.

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And I don't think I don't think so. And I'm not trying to say, like, I'm so good at having sex. No, no, I get the thing.

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But, like, I don't think I've ever been like, shoot.

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I wish I didn't sleep with him. It wasn't what I thought. I liked the flirting better. I why I brought that to mind was something just popped into my head.

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I had a situation where I had this, like, brilliant thing that just happened to happen to me.

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And I gave it as advice and call her daddy. It wasn't intentional. I met this guy on Rhia and I went on a date with him and the chemistry just wasn't there. But after the date, he brought me to his bar and all of his friends were there and they were such a cool group of friends in New York. And so I started to hang out with him a little bit longer than I should have, which is maybe a little fucked up.

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Because I kind of wanted to, like, hang with their group of friends, here's the thing, guys are just as much social climbers than like guys think girls are. I've actually met some of the most social climbers, guys in New York. Then I'm like, it's so annoying that girls have that, like, stigma to them because you will literally you're just as bad. Yeah, it's you in the bathroom if you're 100 percent getting the table. One OK, next to the fucking deejay.

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Thousand percent, right? Yeah. So I start infiltrating this friend group and I went strategically right for the girls and I befriended the girls because I knew a lot of girls probably try to infiltrate because there were a lot of hot guys in the group and they would be like, OK, this girl is just trying to fuck. Yeah. And I wasn't even trying to fuck. I just wanted, like, a good group of friends. So finally after, like, months, I would go out and meet them every weekend and like, I had a good group of friends.

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And then there was an athlete in that group that would occasionally pop in. That was actually I used to be on my ex's professional athletic team, OK, I to be teammates, OK? And so naturally, I wasn't dating my ex at the time, so I was kind of like, this is so fun. So he would every weekend have a new chick on his arm and we would make crazy eye contact.

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The sexual tension was insane. The eye contact that it's that's what it is for me. And we're like across the table from each other and we're not talking. And we had matched on Rhia like months and months before, and neither of us had messaged each other. So we knew each other was he knew who I was. He knew who I was. And then finally, after so much sexual tension back and forth for like so long, one night, it just got a little too wild.

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It was one of those New York nights where, like, we go back to someone's bachelor apartment, it's five a.m. people are drinking, doing drugs, like everyone's up. It's like one of those best nights. And then he ended up leaving the girl he was with. And we went back to my apartment and we didn't have sex, but we did like everything. But yeah. And I woke up and I just knew, like, you fucked up that because it wasn't that great.

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He's kind of just have the best personality. But it was just like the chase and and the forbidden ness that I was into. And the minute that I woke up, I could tell we both even were just kind of like, we're going to have to see each other at, like, the day drink today. And like, we're not going to date. I hate that. I wish to that day we had just kept it.

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I know the flirtatious eye contact and I feel like I don't know if this is like specific to New York, but because everyone knows everyone and everyone's friends, I've been in that situation where, like, you're hooking up with a guy in a friend group and then like that kind of falls off and like you don't really know if you like em.

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And then one random night, one of the other friends comes along and you're like, damn, like you're kind of showing the intention. You hook up with him and then you're like, fuck, like I did. I do that. Like, why did I do that?

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Yeah, it's so. And I think anyone listening can I have a lot of people always writing and being like, should I hook up like their sexual tension between me and like one of my best guy friends? I think sometimes leaving the sexual tension is better than actually going for it because the sex is in is a moment. Yeah, after sex is a long fucking time.

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So when you're then going in social settings, almost think, OK, we're going to sex, it will probably great or not. What happens after? Where are we going to do after?

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Unless this person unless you have like love at first sight. Yes.

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Done like then it's probably not like I have definitely been in a group of guy friends where I have slept with one of the guys and I'm like, I really like this person.

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And then there's another friend who's like kind always hitting on me. And I'm like, I love this and I haven't slept with him. And it's like it's way better than if we were to actually do it then. Like, even though there's such a double standard and it's annoying. But that's what it is like the guys are going to think of you as like, yeah, two of us like slept with you. And it's like, I hate that feeling.

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My mom was saying something to me because she was like, it's so annoying me because her friend kept saying things about like her son's friends that would be like, oh, he's such a great guy. He just has to get it out of his system. He's like hooking up with a bunch of girls and then he's going to be an amazing husband.

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Can you imagine someone ever saying she just has to fuck around with all these guys, get it out of her system, then she's going to be an amazing wife. Why is it a double standard? No, it's fuck yourself. It's so annoying because all of my guy friends this.

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Oh, my God. This brings up a good point, because all of my guy friends are like, we're not ready for relationships. And I was like, no, I totally like I get that.

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Like, you don't get one if you don't think that you can be faithful to someone.

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But like they're like but you're the type of girl we'd want to date. Like you're independent, like you're funny, you're successful. And I'm like, I'm right here. Right. So I didn't want to date me.

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I'm right here. But like if I ever said, yeah, I'm just going to go fuck like all these guys, I'm like, I'm just I'm not ready.

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They'd be like, you're a whore like me. You can't fuck you. It's just such a double standard. And all I can say is like it literally all has to do with like everyone always asks me, like how. You preserve your reputation on the ship, you just got to look at yourself, how where the fuck you feel and you feel good about yourself, fuck whatever you want to do, like just go for it. And any guy that can't handle, like, your body count, which he'll never find out because you're never fucking telling them.

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Don't ever tell them.

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I don't understand why girls would ever want. Girls are like, what do I tell him. My body count is you say go fuck yourself now. Yeah. I'd be like, you're such a like you make them feel stupid. Like, Oh, that's so weird. Why would you ask that. I would never ask what yours is. I'm like you make them feel so immature. Yeah.

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Oh God. Like what are you. And I'm like, what are you in college.

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So we're very mysterious.

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So, like, we're never going to really let you know how we're feeling about you. We're the most sexual sign.

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Oh, but we're like, you wouldn't really know it. Like unless you are the person having sex with us, we're not going to like, put it out.

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And so it's a kind of like a little bit of a surprise, I feel like. And we can be very cold like so like when I'm done with someone, I'm done with them, like I really don't ever think about them again.

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So it's interesting because I am like a girlfriend type of girl, like I love having boyfriends.

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And I think it's because I think girls are always mean and it's so hard to, like, ever have like a good group of girlfriends or have like a best friend who's a girl. And I mean, not saying that I'm not a girls girl because I deep down really and like, I love my girlfriends. I love that. But like in high school and college, I always felt like OK with my boyfriends, the one that really has my back.

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So I love being someone's girlfriend. And I've definitely stayed in relationships too long just because I liked the comfortability of being someone's girlfriend.

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But I'm not I mean, I'm a good girlfriend, but I'm probably not the best. Like, I'm definitely toxic at some points. Like, what are you mean toxic?

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Like, do you try to make them jealous? Like, what's your go to that? If you if I asked her ex-boyfriend, like what is Paige like, like what are they telling me.

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So my all my ex-boyfriend, I also I speak to all of them except one. And I would say I have like five real relationships that I was in. I talk to all of them.

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They're all good friends except one who's like engaged and like who knows where he is.

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Right. But I, I can be a cold hearted bitch, like, I really I really can.

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I've been cheated on a ton and I am kind of like, OK, you made me feel like this. Just wait, how much awful you are going to feel when I do it to you. So like I'm like a get even kind of like you're going to fuck me over. Just wait I it's not great.

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I love this scariness. Yes. I'm slowly lowering like I am jelly even type of back.

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I, I have a guy that I'm like talking to right now and one of the best text messages that he ever sent to me, he says, he said every day I'm a little bit more scared of you.

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And I said, perfect, perfect. That's how I want to do it. Yeah.

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OK, tell me about you getting cheated on. So I've been cheated on. I mean, I dated a guy in college.

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He definitely cheated on me, but like, whatever my first boyfriend in New York I like would see him cheating on me.

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Like we'd be out at clubs and he would like leave and I'd like see him in an elevator with another girl.

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And like, one time I threw him a birthday party in the Hamptons and I, like, walked in on him like making out with someone. I was just like, this is not such great.

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What what do you say in those moments? I was I mean, I was young. I was stupid. And it's funny because I feel like people like if they're watching me on the show or like my Instagram now, like I come off very confident and like you do high self-esteem.

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But it wasn't always and I'm not like I definitely have insecurities, but it wasn't just born like that. Like I've gone through shit that makes you get like that. So that was definitely a relationship where I was like, this is this is crazy.

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Like, why am I living through this, getting cheated on that you were like, blindsided, um, you know, like every time I've gotten cheat, I have a really crazy gut instinct.

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And every time I've been cheated on, it was I was like, I know something crazy is going on.

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Like, let me let me you on a date once you found out they were cheating. I have before. Yeah. Where was your. Do you remember like where was your mental state with that.

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Was it just things you needed to get. We're not great now. OK, I have stayed too. When I found out someone was cheating and it was just like for me it was more of like I need to figure my shit out. Like I was living with this person, like I need to like somewhat fake that. I'm going to we're going to make it all work while I like my logistics, figure it out. But like, was yours more to, like, get even or were you just like, whatever?

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I'll just I keep being in this relationship.

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It was more like, OK, are we all have the same friends? We're going out every weekend, like, who am I going to hang out with if I'm not dating this person? And it's such an like a mature thought and it's such a like unworthy feeling and just basically having.

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Self-confidence that I could go out and get a new boyfriend who's probably 10 times better in a week, but when you're in that situation, you just feel like a piece of shit and you're like in your bed and you're like, what am I like? I'm leaving him to do what, like lay and cry in my own bed, like by myself.

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So, dude, isn't it crazy because I love that you're saying that, like on the show you do come off like the baddest bitch. So confident walking around in your perfect outfits.

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I'm like, fuck, I try really hard, you know, and it works like literally bought things that you post on your Instagram because you like are so good at marketing clothing. They're all affordable and make them look so high and like you're amazing at thank you. But you exude this confidence and I think it's really cool that you say like you used to not be that way. Yeah, I've been open about that on my show too. Like, I wasn't just like born and I was like, what's up about being right?

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Go through shit. And yeah, my therapist had like, punched me in the head one day when she was like, look at all your old relationships. And if you look at when they were toxic, usually it's because like your relationship is a mirror. Yeah. Like you didn't like who you were. And so you were accepting like shitty stuff because you felt shitty about yourself. Yeah. And now think about yourself going into like any relationships, you probably are more point in your life.

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We're like, you know who you are, you know, you want you know what you deserve. And so you would never date that person. Never. Yeah.

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I'm such a different like being single right now and 28 and like now being in the career I'm in, I'm such a different single person.

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And that was like one of the reasons I wanted to get single because I was like, why would I be like because I know it wouldn't be the way I was when I was 25, like falling all over whoever.

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And there's definitely times where, like, I'll meet a guy and he doesn't like me back and I'll have that, like, let's cry about it for like a day. And then I'll be like, wait, I'm a bad fucking bitch. And like his loss and it's more about him than it is about me. I had a therapist say to me one time, like, you let people pick you, why don't you start picking who you want to date?

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And I was like, oh, I was like, OK.

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And it like really spoke to me. I was like, you're so right. I let these, like, losers come in and do whatever. But there is something about like dating the bad boy when you are younger that I feel like you have to do.

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Dude, you have to tell us about your drug dealer. Everyone's like all the right through to on FaceTime, on like page like let's go through like college history, like did you have a boyfriend. She's like, yeah. Like not the best choices. Like I like the bad boy, like I theater drug dealer. I'm like, wow, tell me about it.

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So like I dated this guy in college for like a hot second.

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And I think it's because my high school boyfriend, who I dated like senior year of high school, freshman year of college, a little bit of sophomore year was so perfect, like the most amazing boyfriend, my first love, like everything about him and the way he loved me was amazing. And there's just a part of me that was like, there's got to be opposite direction to be something crazy out here. And I found a guy who was just I think it was a bookie.

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He was definitely a drug dealer at one point. And like, I was driving in his, like, dope car one day and I was just like, how did I get here? You're getting pulled over by the cops. I had like a fake I.D. because I wasn't twenty one at the time and a fake I.D. in my purse. I was so nervous and like, I'm a good girl.

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Like, I don't get pulled over. I've never been arrested. I don't have tattoos. Like, I'm scared of authority. Like, this is not me. We're getting pulled over. He looks at me and he goes, don't say a fucking word. When they come in, they come over. I don't know what I have in my car, but act oblivious. And I just, like, looked at him and I was like, OK, the police came.

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They gave us a speeding ticket. We drove off. But it was in that moment that I was just like, not me. I tried it, not me. I'd like to go back to being good again, like, but I learned a lot. OK, that is so great. We have so many similarities hearing you say that story. I knew after you were going to say that moment. Yeah. Pushed it too far. And there's authorities involved.

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We're not fucking cool. I had a boyfriend that I dated in high school and he was the definition of a bad boy. Yeah. And I met him, I'm pretty sure, on like Facebook. And when I went to the public school.

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Oh, wait, that's such a thing, too. Like if you went to the private school and you're like, I'm going to do a public school boy because like I'm bad. I'm the baddest of the bad. Yeah. And so I'm at this, like, preppy ass high school that my parents couldn't afford. Like I had a scholarship for high school and I'm at the school. I couldn't afford a car. All the bitches are driving around in Maserati's.

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And I wanted to go back to like. The comfortability of like it was yours, all girls, no, mine was like, OK, private boarding school. OK, OK, like these rich little dicks. Yeah, I was going to go to an all girls school that I was like, I'd probably end it all if I went there. I went all girls, all I could.

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So see you at all girls. Yeah. I went on a uniform. Yeah of course. I went to Catholic school my entire life. High school was all girls. Yeah. So I, I didn't, I wore a uniform my whole life until I got to college and then I was like, what do people wear to school.

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It's so funny when I say I went to Catholic school K through eight and whenever I talk about wearing that, like the plaid skirt and the thigh highs, guys are like, oh my God, I can't I wish I could see a picture like, no, I was hideous.

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Was it hot? It was disgusting.

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It was like I, Doc Martens were like my school shoe. I was like, I didn't shower saddle shoes.

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Yeah. Like all girls were just it's disgusting. I was like, I don't shave my legs till Friday. Like, you don't want to see a pic. Yeah. So I'm in high school.

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I started dating this bad boy and I will never forget my parents were like my brother's hockey game and I was going to sneak out and have my first date with this guy. He picks me up in this BMW and I'm like, oh my God, it's so hot.

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It's about a BMW. And then something about a man with earrings and a backwards hat. Yeah. And so I get in and we're driving to his house and I will never forget this moment. He's driving so slow and I'm like, why are you driving so slow? And he's like, oh, because I have a DUI. And I'm like, oh my God. Anyway, oh. Like a part of me was like so excited about being a part of me was like kind of terrified and dated this kid on and off for like two years.

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And my parents were doing everything they could to keep me away from him. I was like, put my phone in my mailbox because I had the tracker on me.

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And then I would like leave my yeah, my mom would wake up in the middle of the night, check to see my location.

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I'd be at home. Oh, my God, dude. So genius, genius. Dude, it was genius until I told I think I've told this story before, but like it was genius until I'm on Amazon or whatever. I was on eBay back then. It was eBay and I'm trying to buy one of those like fire escape ladders. No, I could come out of my so I could climb out of my room and I have a credit card at the time, so my dumb ass uses my dad's card thinking he wouldn't see.

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And he comes in one day being like, so you're the one buying the ladder does love you. Like, I just want to do some home improvement. I'm trying to help you. I'm like, Dad, this is for the family's safety stock. We're doing a fire drill at six p.m.. Be there, Dad.

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So so how dark. And then I'll tell the story one day fully on the podcast. But it got so dark and he was so troubled. And I think he's out of rehab now, but.

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Oh, good for there was good. There was one situation where he there was a huge event that happened. He was put into a coma.

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Oh my God, it was so bad. I was driving down to the hospital, asked my parents if I could go see him and like, seeing him on a ventilator.

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And I had just gotten accepted to be you and like, got my scholarship.

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Worked so hard. Yeah. Good for you.

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I kind of had that moment in the car, like you being like, what am I doing? Yeah. Like, it's good. Bad boy is so funny. Yeah. It's too far bad boy that you're like this is where I plan my life to go and like something in your gut that you're just like this isn't this isn't my path.

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Like we tried it.

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And then also something seen the guy on the ventilator, you're like this is so fucking sad but also like I got to go do my thing. So yeah. Bad boy. Stories are like every girl that thinks it's fun. It's really not like it's fun for a thrill of a night yet, not for a relationship. It's it's such a like a pivotal it's looking back on it now.

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It's can be such a pivotal moment in, like, the way you become a woman, because I really feel like when I dated this guy, I was like, what, 19, 20?

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Like, I wasn't a woman of like the way I think of things now. But I always think, like, wow, what if he really trapped me and that was my path, like for the future, like, thank God I had the wherewithal or like the family to be like, yo, get your shit together. You're done with him like you're moving on. But I could see how some girls get trapped in that and then they're in like mentally abusive relationships or physically abusive.

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And that's terrifying.

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It sounds like you have a do you have siblings? I do. I have an older brother. OK, I do, too. And and you're close with your family, right?

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My brother is like my best friend.

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I actually say like people that don't get along with their siblings. I'll never understand it, can't trust him.

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I can trust them. And I feel bad saying it because there's so many people that don't fuck with their siblings like my brother is exact same personality as me, way funnier than me and like ten times smarter. He's a lawyer and they're like, what happened with Page?

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You have to figure it out later. Turn on my show.

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Yeah, but I just like I'm very close with my family and my brother is like my best friend.

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I love that because I think, like, I'm I also have an older brother and he's literally like my everything best friend.

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And I had an older sister and everyone doesn't even know I have an older sister. My older sister and I, when I was younger, would buy all the time. Yeah, it was like sisters. Yeah. But she is also my best friend. Yeah. And like when you have that family dynamic and then you love your parents, when you have these toxic relationships like I've learned, like you're so fucking lucky and we're so fortunate to have that relationship with our family that some people don't have.

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Yeah. And it you're right. It is scary to think about how close I was at times. And my family's pulling me back being like, what the fuck are you doing here? My brother had so many conversations that I'm sure you too. Yeah.

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Paige, you're so cute because you think your parents can tell you, like you're fucking up and you're like, OK. And it really isn't until my brother will be like, yo, do we have to have a conversation?

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My brother has actually every boyfriend I've ever had.

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He's been like, yeah, you can have fun with him. This isn't it. Like, cut it off pretty soon because this guy is going to get upset and, like, obsessed with you and we're just not having him. We're not like, dude, is that not the worst that have brother says it and then you're like, you ruined it.

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Yeah. I'm like, fuck, now I can't hang out with them. My brother will, like, make fun of whoever I'm dating, like to me.

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And then when I'm talking to the guy in my head is like your brother saying all these mean things. And I'm like, God damn it, Gary, I hate you. My brother does the same. And I'm like, can you please just keep your comments until I come to you? Like I like this one? I think he's like, it's so cute. You think so? Yeah. But I think anyone listening that isn't close to their family.

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This isn't a put down. This is like I think then I always suggest like finding I do feel like those people that have those friends that are like family and relying on anyone that is around you. I always like my mom's always said it like whenever we say something like we have no ulterior motives. Yeah. It would be our ulterior motive to telling you, like, someone's not doing something in your best interests. It's just out of love. Yeah.

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And so if you're ever feeling maybe like you're in a toxic situation or you're pulling away from people that do love you, listen to them because you probably don't have a clear view of things and they don't. And what your mom doesn't want to fucking boyfriend like there's no amount of motive.

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My mom always says, if I can't tell you who's going to tell you.

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And like so many things, like I always say, like Mom, if like, I'm going to get fat, like, tell me I'm getting fat.

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And she's like, if I can tell you, who are you going to call and ask? I'm like, Okay, great. Thank you, Mom. I really appreciate your honesty.

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No, it's so true.

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OK, let's talk about guys and money and buying on dates and shit like that, because I want to hear your take on how much of a turn off is it if a guy takes you on a date? Oh, well, first of all, have you ever had a guy take you on a date and ask you to split the bill?

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Not on a first date, but I've definitely like bought dates that I felt like this is like still part of the courting situation.

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And I don't feel like I should be paying for this, but like, go off, do your thing.

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And how did he ask you to pay earsplitting?

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So I was on a date one time and I would say this was like our third fourth date, like very in very new in the dating situation.

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Like, we weren't exclusive. We weren't like anything, but we were going on dates and like a normal fucking human when the check came, like, I like went and grabbed my bag. And I'm used to like. Fake out fake pump. Yeah, tell us all this time like you grab for your bag. So I'm grabbing for my bag, waiting for him to be like, oh my God, stop.

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He doesn't say, oh, my God, stop.

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So, like, I have to keep receding now down, taking my wallet out. Now I'm opening my wallet. Now my card is in my hand and I say, oh, my God, like, let me get this one. And waiting for him to be like, absolutely not.

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That's crazy. Like, this is our third date. He doesn't say anything. So I like, take the check. I pay for it. And like, it was a it was fine. It was just like a dinner. But in my head I was like, yeah, I'm all for equal rights and women and I'm down to split things.

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I'm down to pay for things when like we're in a relationship like. Absolutely. And I like being able to buy my own shit because I hate feeling like I owe someone something.

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But like at the end of the day, you're trying to date me. Like, that's why we're going on dates. We're hanging out like we're seeing if this could be a relationship and like, come on, dude, it's one dinner. It's like the third date.

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The third date pretty early. You pretty early. Right. I know that so many people will ask me, like, fuck, like I'm in a relationship, but I'm just trying to find the balance of him paying versus me paying. I feel the same way. I think that's totally different. Totally different. But I do feel like when you're in the beginning stages, like if you're asking me out on a date, yeah. You're paying.

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And I know that sounds like a little stuck up, but like, I don't give a fuck. Like, if a guy's asking me on a date, I'm yeah. I even have to bring my wall like it took me two hours to get ready for this.

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My makeup is ten grand. Like if I threw all of this away and had to go buy it, it's been five thousand dollars. You can pick up this one hundred dollar check for some dumb pasta you bought me like you.

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Thank you. And I make more than us. Have you heard about the wage gap? You fucking more than me fuck yourself. No, it's so true. And I. I think there is. You're right. There's a line of like I think any guy listening, even if you there's one thing, one I think for at least the first like five plus dates, like it sucks. Even if you have to ask your parents for money, like, yeah, you should be paying.

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And too, I think that's something to me that is just such a turn on that is so underrated and it really isn't that much more expensive.

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Any guy listening for advice, if you're sending her an Uber, send her uber black.

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If a black Escalade rolls up to pick you up. Paige, tell me you're not already trying to find this guy. I'm now reconfiguring like, do I have to wait for the third date? Because this is really nice.

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Like we've set the bar so fucking low for men.

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It actually is infuriating because a simple uber even like saying like, let me get you an Uber.

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I'm like, oh, like you want to give me a number like you, but like sending a black escalator to pick me up to take me out on a date.

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And you want to know something. I actually haven't had someone do that for me in like years.

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OK, so any men to start sending Hoover back speeches, just start sending them, I'm not we're not even going anywhere. Just keep them rolling up. It's so underrated. Like it's literally like a difference between 12, 20 something dollars. And it can totally change the vibe of the night. And I know it's superficial, but it doesn't mean girls can be superficial. Anyone is superficial when you get something nice that you're not expecting. Yeah. Oh my God.

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It's also like thinking it's like human instincts. Like, of course we want to be equal to the guys. But there is like an innate feeling of like we want to kind of be we want to feel like we're being taken care of a little. And like we want you to be like manly and macho. And like it's not about the money. It's just like you thought of us. You want us to be safe, like you want to in some way protect us and like help us out.

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Like send Uber like it's a knock and Uber it's thirty dollars, like it's fucking you later down the line.

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Trust us, we'll take care of you. I said herself, maybe the three day fucking situation may go down to the first day. Like send me an Uber. Uber. Totally. Yeah. OK, ok. I want to ask you.

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I know the question is are you a lover or are you a fighter page in the bedroom. I mean, do you like loving sex? Do you like aggressive sex. Like what's your sex life like. OK, so I like to have a balance, but like the first couple times I don't be loving because I'll be like, so weird.

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I don't know you like don't kiss my forehead, I'll actually throw up. But like if it's my boyfriend at some point yes I would.

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I want to like make love totally.

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But like in the beginning I'm probably a little bit more like aggressive in terms of like a light choke. Yeah. Like light choke. But don't want to like pass out. No I don't want to pass out. I have some friends that like they're like I passed out, I'm like that's scary.

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But they love it totally. Do you.

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Because I remember talking about it on an episode and people thought it was fascinating like, well when have you ever been in love before.

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OK, I, I feel bad because I don't know how many boyfriends are going to listen to this. I have been in love before.

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I think I've really truly only been in love once.

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I think I've loved the person that I'm dating, like I love them as a human. They're a great human, but I wasn't in love with them.

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And then I feel like I've had relationships where I loved the relationship because it was either like so toxic or so like what's going to happen next. But I didn't love the person. So we're like both are aligned, like I love the relationship and I love the person. I really only think I've I've only ever felt that once.

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And I think that's why I'm such a relationship girl, because, like, I want to be in love.

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Like, I can't wait for that. I just don't think I've had that in a really long time.

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I had profound. I think that's. And you're being honest. Yeah. I don't think there's anything wrong with being in a relationship, especially at our age.

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Maybe as we're getting older, the next relationship you're going to get into, you'll probably want to like you're going to be like, I want to be in love that I'm getting in. I'm going to be in love. But yeah, in your twenties, I don't think I've had relationships. I know I'm not fully in love with that person, but I don't think there's been any pressure to be like, well, then you have to break up with them if you're not in love with them.

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Yeah.

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Itra you get something from each relationship, a thousand percent. Isn't it crazy though when you are in love, the difference in the sex.

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Yeah.

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So I actually haven't really been in love, in love since and I think it was like my first love so really since I was like twenty.

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Yeah.

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It's wild, it's like I've said like this one person that I dated like the sex was so intense when we were having sex at times and then so hot other times. But the a bit ever since having that person where I was like holy shit. Like I hate using the word like making love. Yeah. Like the, the Yeah. The passion. Right. Yeah. To be able to have that sex and then turn it off and do another round that's like sexy and kinda hot.

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It's hard then to then I've gone on to new relationships that I've had some boyfriends that I'm like we only have like semi dirty sex and there's no passion. And once you have the passion and sex, it's hard to move forward in a relationship and have a guy that doesn't do that. And there's I've had like boyfriends where like we have the dirty crazy sex and you're so into it. And then they want to switch it to like the lovemaking kind.

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And I'm like, oh, but I just know what to write. Like, I don't feel like that. Yeah, you're not there. And I feel so bad.

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And that's why I do think for me, like it is kind of a weird thing. But getting older, like that's kind of my sense of like, am I really into this person, if I can do both, because you're so right, I get the ick when they try to then do the love making it up. Yeah. I really wish you would just fuck. Like, I'm like a little yeah, like and just let's get it. Yeah, like put your hand over my mouth and, like, you know, tell me to shut the fuck up and let's keep it moving, like, straight up.

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We have dinner to get to. Yeah. OK. Have you ever I was going to ask you, have you ever had to go about a lot of girls want to know like what do I do if I want to figure out like what are we. And I've always told girls like well you don't ask what we are. Yeah. That's just so wrong.

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So if you want to get dumped real quick, ask what you like. If you're trying to get out of it a thousand percent, ask him what you guys are.

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What are we. Like, you're disgusting. You're leaving is what we are.

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But like, have you ever been in a situation where you felt like you needed to ask a guy what you are? I think we kind of said both.

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No, but no, I don't think so. And anyone I've ever like like they then become my actual boyfriend. It's all happened the same way where one day we start hanging out and then we just hung out every single day until we were like, yeah, we're dating.

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I've actually never met someone. I've never dated someone who I wasn't friends with first.

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Really? Oh, that's interesting. Interesting. And I don't know if I recommend it. I'm still testing that theory out.

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Right.

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A guy that I'm seeing now, we fully were not friends prior.

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I had just lightly I think almost every guy I actually have ever dated. I never was friends with them prior.

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Interesting. So we're like this with that. Yeah. I don't know if mine have worked in the past. Yeah. So we don't know, we have this hypothesis out there that we don't know what's true. Right.

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All we need to talk about this is like our big wrapping up catty girls and young girls and just all things. And I know that you in summer house have dealt with like so many girl dramas and I think so it's such an underrated topic. Like we can talk about guys all day, but really like girl drama is so fucking hard to navigate.

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And I think it's interesting that you're saying you have had friends in the past that, like you, you are more almost a girlfriend with like best friends with your partner. Yeah. Rather than having huge groups of girls, because I agree it is hard to navigate.

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Girl groups, yeah, and I've never been someone that has like 20 friends, I want my close circle and that's the I like what is your dynamic with girlfriends?

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So I'm definitely a girls girl. Like, I'm very girly. It's like I have, like, girlfriends, you know, like I have their back, like I'm down for them.

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But girls, like, just innately like when we all get in a room, it's automatic. Like, look, I'm up and down like is this my competition?

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Like where guys get into a room and they're like, what's up bro? Like dabbing each other up. And and it's like, I wish I, I wish we had that and I don't know why we don't, but it's already automatic competition.

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But I'm the type of girl that like if I meet you, I like you initially until I until you do something and then I don't like you.

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Where I feel like a lot of girls are proved to me. I'm like, why I should like you. And it's like it's very off-putting to me. I agree.

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I went to an all girls high school and I had a really great group of girlfriends in high school and I didn't deal with that much cattiness.

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I mean, we definitely had it, but I think it prepared me a lot for like the real world. I also can pick up in like three seconds when a girl is talking about me, like at a party. And like, I absolutely know that she's talking about me. And like, now I can read her lips and my friends now will be like, how do you know that?

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And I'm like, I went to an all girls high school. This was the cafeteria, like, I know when I'm just talking about me.

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So it's definitely hard.

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And then it's just we're in like I'm not to like sound like, oh my God, toot my own horn, but like I'm in like a very different career path.

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And so I think it's like sometimes girls get a little bit jealous, but I'm like I'm like a loser at heart, like, like come over and like, let's watch a movie.

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Like, I'm not like right exactly how I am on my Instagram, like always perfectly made up and like whatever.

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But I think it's just weird. Like girls just normally have like a jealousy streak. And of course there's times where I get jealous of other girls. Absolutely. But I always see it like if you're my friend and I'm successful, like I want you to be successful.

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And like, if I'm eating, you're all eating like we're doing, you know, and it's like me and my one girlfriend talk about this all the time. Like, if I'm going out with my friends, I want them to look hot, too. Like I don't want to be the only hot one woman going out.

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Like, you look good. Yeah. Like you like.

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No, I'm going to tell you that outfit sucks and like, let's change because I want you to look good where I've been with girls that are like wear that, wear something else.

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And when I'm like, I know I don't look good in that.

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And that's fucked up. How fucked is that with you? So. Right. I remember in college I had this one girl that was like so conscious of wanting to be the hottest girl. Yeah. So obvious when I would watch her tell some girls what to wear and then I would be like, yo, like you should probably wear this and said, like, come borrow my clothes because I was watching her girls that feel insecure when they're around hotter girls.

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Yeah, I have been in rooms that I'm like, why does she look like that. What is happening in New York?

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It's like you walk into a bar everyone's five nine and with Wilhemina and you're like, cool.

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Well being sure in New York I'm like all of a sudden I feel like a little fucking told me and Migros, me and one of my girlfriends always say, like, it's now about being short and funny.

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And I think and that's a little bit like dude being around tall girls.

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Yeah. That's the way I'm like, I can't go anywhere without heels. Yeah. I'm like, why is my torso two inches?

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But it's like there's no doubt eye all the time have felt insecure going into rehab. Oh my God, you obviously size yourself, but like girls that try harder to make you feel. I'm going to read you some questions because you get all a girl code.

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Yeah. That I feel like you probably have dealt with like a lot of this. This is from the daddy gang. You guys wrote these in. A lot of it is like what to do about like dating, etc.. But here we go.

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OK, is it OK for friends to reserve guys, even if they're not dating, then like to call a guy like to be like I want that one. Like no one's allowed to touch him. Like, do you think that's fair if you guys are all meeting this?

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I think if you see a guy and you're like, I really, I think I really like that guy, want to try and talk to him then? Yes, because if one of my girlfriends says to me, I really want to talk to this guy automatically, I'm like, OK, so then I'll never talk to him. Like you're I actually am automatically not attracted to that guy because my friend likes him.

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Yeah.

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So like, if you want to dibs a guy and your friends like, no, I want to talk to him, that's weird. Like why would you even be competing for the same guy in the first place.

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I completely agree. And I think the only time that it would be no is if she does that. And for the next few weeks if you guys see them out, nothing happens. Yeah, like the next season, all of a sudden you're on to a new guy. And it was like, oh yeah, I think I'm going to try for him. Yeah, I'm kind of vibing, but it's like if they never hook it up.

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Yeah. And if he and it's known that like that girl or that guy is not. Liking your friend, you have to tell your friend, like, OK, get over it. He doesn't like you, which my friends have done that to me a million times. They're like, get over it. You're like, OK, OK, fine, fine. So people literally this is like not even a question, but we'll just answer it. And I kept asking if I had sex with him on the DL before he started dating my friend.

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Do I have to tell her so she knows.

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Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I think even if you made out with him, you had I took you on a date.

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I had a girlfriend one time match with a guy on Rhia texted me like his picture, Instagram or whatever, and it was like, I'm going out on a date with him and I go, cool, have so much fun.

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Got to let you know. Three years ago I slept with him one time. Didn't mean anything. We don't speak and she's like, cool.

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And I'm like, OK, right, right. Yeah. No, because if he tells. Yeah. And if he tells her first then you look like a sneaky bitch weirdo. Yeah. OK, girls that think they're just being straightforward to you but are really just rude. Do you know those girls.

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They're like I'm just real. I'm just, I'm real. I'm on am, I'm authentic. I myself I'm like and I'm like your son. Yeah.

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I think dealing with those type of girls, I always just let I kind of feel like I know one of the girls on your show that I think of with this.

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Yeah.

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Girls that are rude. Sometimes you even though they're trying to come off real, there's no point in going at them because they're in their own world. If they're being rude to you, pretending they're being straightforward. My advice is always just like kind of look at them like they bipeds and just no response. Yeah. And my dad always used to tell me and it's the best fucking line is if someone's being an asshole to you and like saying something and trying to make you feel a little, you just stare at them and you go, what's your point.

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Yeah. And then they're like, yeah. And they're like, well I was just. And you're like, OK, well what's your point.

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Yeah. What's your point.

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My mom. Wow. I feel like our parents would even be friends because my mom gives the advice of. So what do you mean by that. She's like like kids. If you make someone explain to you then they just automatically start sounding dumb because they don't even know.

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So then they're like, I just mean like and you're like, I don't I don't get it.

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I don't I don't get you know, and there's a fine line between being real and just being an asshole, like, thank you.

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If you're going to hurt someone's feelings with your realness, keep it to your fucking self, because we probably didn't have to hear it in the first place.

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Would you ever hook up with a guy that your friend dated for two months?

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Probably not. Unless this guy was like I was like, this is my soulmate. And I would definitely talk to my friend about it first. Like, if she was like, oh, that's like I can't even. But if it was one of those guys that, like, she always liked, like, yeah, I don't I think friends and mixing guys is like gets very messy and I don't ever really do that. I would never do that.

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Is it okay to date someone's ex if you aren't close but you run in the same circle. Yes. You don't know that I do anything. I agree. Nothing totally. Oh. How close of a friend do I need to be to give my opinion on their relationship or just never?

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So I have a hard time with this because I have been documented giving him all my feels.

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I think I think it depends on how close you are with your girlfriend. But there have been multiple times where my girlfriends have been like, hey, snap the fuck out of it.

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He doesn't like you, you're making yourself look stupid. And now you're making all of us as like a girl group look stupid. And I have been like, thank you. You're correct.

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But there is a line where, like, if your girlfriend's in like a toxic relationship and you talk so much shit about him and then like, they get back together and then you have to be out at dinner is like it's going to be fucking awkward.

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I like live my truth. And I'm like, you're better than this. I'll go with him because it doesn't affect me.

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I'm not the one dating him. But you should know that you're better than this.

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I agree. I it's like I remember being in high school and I had such a hard situation. It was I had a group, it was four of us girls and we were all on the soccer team. We were best friends. We did everything together. And one of our one of the girls was dating when we were freshmen. She was dating a senior. She was like the hottest guy on. Yeah.

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So she like this guy on campus, the whole thing.

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And we found out he was like fully cheating on her. And I remember my friend and I were like, what do we do? Like, this is so scary. Like we have to tell her.

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And we were young, innocent, like freshmen at the time were like, oh my God, we got to tell her. Yeah. And I will never forget in hindsight, we shouldn't have done it the way we did.

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But like during lunch, you wrote a letter, you wrote Dear Sam. Ronnie, was that the young. So do we. So I will never forget we bring her to a bench on campus and we all sit down. How poetic like grass. And we in our true minds were like, oh, my God. Like, she definitely has no idea. And we like we have to tell you something. We told her and she looked at us.

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So all of a sudden, like, kind of pulls back a little bit, so defensive so doesn't believe us, stands up and is like, I'm going to talk.

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He walks out right. Of like one of the buildings and they make eye contact and she walks to him. And for the next few months it was really awkward because she didn't believe us until a picture came out at like a school dance of him, like fully tongue down the throat.

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And then we were awkwardly, like, sipping our Slurpee in the corner, like, whoa, that's an interesting photo. Where would we get that?

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See, I've always been the type of girl where, like, if my girlfriend's ever came to me, we're like, we think he's cheating on you. I'm like, well, let's go get the Facebook app, Will. How are we going to figure it out? Like I tell you, yeah. Like someone start fucking an FBI agent. So I think bottom of this. Yeah, like what are we doing in here?

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It's that's why if my friends ever came to me, oh, he's cheating. I'm like same vibe. But I do think that is where that I learned, like, when they're in a toxic relationship. Yeah. Most girls probably have a little feeling that they are. And they didn't she didn't want to hear that. Yeah, she probably knew. She thought it was the best she could get. And then later on, she ended up spending her entire college on and off with this guy and he fully broke her heart and kept cheating.

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And like now she spent like eight years of her life with this dude and he kept serial cheating. I think, though, from that, at a very young age, I learned like, I'm Amina. Sometimes you just got to you got to be aware of who you're addressing. Yeah, I can't help myself, but if I know someone's getting cheated on, I'm telling them, yeah. As a friend, I feel like that's my duty. If I don't really know the girl, I'm not going out of my way to meet of your boyfriend's fucking on you.

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Like, don't give a fuck unless she's one of my girlfriends that I talk to every single day or like every week, even if it's one of my girlfriends, I don't talk to that much, but she's like my girl.

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I'm telling her if she's an acquaintance, I'm not getting involved in that whatsoever.

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I so like I've learned through dating, like for what? However long I've been dating like fifteen years.

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I always trust your gut boom. And you like there's so many times where I'm like, damn am I a psychic because I need to trust my gut more and like I've been right.

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And any girl that is wondering, should I tell my friend, go tell your friend, but then also be like, I'm down for whatever you want to do. I'm here to handle. Yeah, but once you tell them ones, you don't need to keep harping on it because then if they do stay, they're choosing to stay, you know. I mean absolutely.

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Like you don't bring it up again and you're like whatever your decision is, I back you up because you're my friend. But here's the thing.

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Totally having a friend that you had a fall out with, would you send your ex girlfriend a happy birthday or.

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No, no, no, no. If we fight and like it, no, fuck.

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You know, like literally not at all. I'm like not texting an Xbox boyfriend. Like what?

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No roommate fights when you still have to live together, post fight and you're not making up like what do you do about fighting with roommates?

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Go to your boyfriends. No, stay there. Hi Doctor. I'll be gone.

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Yeah, it's it's interesting because I've learned through having lived with like a bunch of soccer girls in college post college girls like I've definitely learned to balance of fight. But like, keep in mind that you do have to wake up near that person the next day if you don't have a boyfriend. But it also does come to a point where like have sit down conversations, not one offs, and then walking away like, hey, let's like schedule time to sit down and talk through this because, like, you literally have to live with that person.

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It's actually really interesting that you say that because my ex used to always give me that advice.

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If I was ever fighting with a friend, like being really adult about it, almost like you work together, like, hey, can we schedule a time rather than just like walking in their room being like, hey, let's talk.

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Because like scheduling at times like I'm serious, like I want this to work and I want us to like I want to hear you out. I want you to hear me. Like there is a different just vibe with it. Yeah.

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You just have to be way more respectful because it's now past friendship. Right. You don't have to be best friends, but you do have to live together. Oh, I feel like you have this. This can be our last one when your best friend or just a friend is always copying and trying to one up you with, like your outfit boyfriend.

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There was one girl on the show that used to come out of the room dress. Yeah.

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Which I actually always feel so bad for that because she is the nicest girl ever and like, she really didn't copy me as much as it really did.

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Look, I just had nice similar style. I could tell with her too, like it was a form of like she looked up to you.

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She Yeah. Your style I like inspired her. Yeah. Just felt like an older sister. And like I loved when she would wear similar things because I'd be like, you look fucking great, like wear it.

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But have you ever gotten mad at, like, any one of your friends for, like, trying to always copy you?

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Yeah, I've definitely had friends who are, like, always trying to like one up and be like, yeah, no, I have that too and I have that whatever. And it gets annoying. And I always talk to my mom about it and she always like snaps me back to Earth and she's like, that's sad.

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Like that's something in them that they're like insecure like so let them just have it. So whenever someone's like trying to one up, I'm always like, that's so good.

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Like that's amazing.

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And then they almost kind of feel like, oh, this is weird.

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And then they sometimes stop, dude, I will never forget one of like the one of like the dumbest, biggest fights I had with one of my friends is I bought a pair of boots, I bought a pair of boots that one of my friends was like, oh my God, I'm obsessed with this company. Like by this boot. Yeah. It's one that, like Morada always wear, OK? And so I post on my story, like wearing the boots going out.

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And she texted me and she's like, no, she damns me. And she goes, what are what brand is that boo. And I was like, oh my God.

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It's like Schultz boots. You know those. I know. Yeah, I know. I hear you talking and I'm like, oh my God, Schultz boots.

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Like there was Miranda was wearing those like cowboy almost looking boots. Yes, OK. And I'm like, oh my God. Like I tag. I like Senator Diemer. And I'm like, oh my God, you have to check out the boo. And she DM's me back and I was like Demming like we were fully living together. Yes. And she's and she's like, Alex, you know that I own that boot.

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I have had at that point fully never been going out with her. She had a boyfriend.

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I was going out with my I was like, oh, like, no, I didn't know that you had that book. Yeah. And it's a black book that I had. It was a black man.

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And I was like, oh, my God, look, I'm so sorry. You know, I didn't know. But like, that's great. Like. And then she was like, I can't believe that you bought that book. You know, that I have that book. So then it transfers to texting. No. Or going in a she's fully beat like you are like I can't believe this. Like I just want one thing that's like mine and like you posted on Instagram to me.

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And it's not fair that you have the boot now and now everyone's going to know the boot as yours.

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Now, I don't I can't wear the boot and this and I was like there it feels like there's something under the bed, there's something deeper.

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And it's like I was like and I was like, we never go out together. So like, no, we're never going. And if you want to wear it, if we ever go out together, I won't wear that. Yeah, it's a black. Absolutely. Like what? And I was like, I got three other types. Like it's not it's weird. And it was just it went on for an hour and I remember calling my mom and my other best friend and I was like, am I off on this?

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Like she's losing her shit over a boot. Yeah, it wasn't the boot. It just it was in the boot. It was it wasn't.

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Because, like, I have a girlfriend who anytime we ever go on a trip, I pack quadruple the amount I would pack because I know this girl's not bringing anything and she's going to want to wear clothes.

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So she'll call me and be like, I hope you like that extra leather pants. I'm like, you're so annoying. But yes, my luggage is over the weight because of you.

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But if there was ever an outfit like there have been times and I've been away with her and I'll pack an outfit and I've never worn it, tags are on it and I'll be like, I want to wear it first. Like because I picked this outfit out like and then you can wear it like. Absolutely. It's all about just being respectful. Yeah. I like having communication. That's what I remember just being like. I will never wear it when you are wearing that right.

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You know, always wear them like I was going above and beyond, like we're talking about a boot here. Like yeah I go and it was just it was, it was a moment of me being like she's clearly feeling insecure about something. And I'm going to try to appease her in every way because this is a fight over a boot. And there was clearly more that came out later. It was just one of those moments like with girls, I agree.

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I could give two fucks if my friends, Lauren really just borrowed my bra and underwear for a date that she didn't have a cute enough fucking thong said, I'm like, I don't care if people think that's gross.

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Like, I don't think that. Here's the thing. I don't think that's gross. Right. I don't think it's gross at all. Like, if my girlfriend was like one time it was Valentine's Day and they lived with, like, one of my girlfriends and I was like, look like I don't really have laundry.

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She pulled out these, like, crazy pieces. I was like I was like, I'm not old enough to even put that on, but thank you. Like, thank you.

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If you're not helping your girls out, like to be the best they can be. I don't fuck with you. I agree. I think to everyone listening, like to wrap it up, like try to be a little less defensive around your girlfriends. And even I've always had people that like are like I wish my friends would even listen to call her daddy. Like having an open communication about your sex life with your friends. I'm sure. I'm sure you want having a podcast and to being on Summer House, I bet has helped you almost like talk more about it, be open more about your relationships and sex life with your friends.

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And some girls can have a conversation about like, oh my God, I gave him head last night because some girls are so. Yeah. And if you're around girls like that find a new friend group.

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Seriously, I have a group and this will be like the last thing I say about my friends. I have a group of guy friends who are perfect, like they really are the best guys ever. And I watch them with each other and they keep each other up so much like no one is talking shit about anyone else in their group.

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And I'm like, this is like beautiful. Like, it's really sentimental how much you guys fuck with each other. And I was a girl should just be more like that. And now I'm like in a group and I have a bunch of girlfriends who, like some of them, are new girlfriend, some of them are old girlfriends. But it's so much more fun to hype each other up and you have such a better time when you're out, if you're like, that's the baddest bitch in the room and she's my fucking friend like this, rather than looking at her and being jealous because she looks so hot that night, like you're going to have a night where you look the hottest.

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I wore an outfit one night out with, like, one of my best girlfriends. And the the boys that we were with were like, page, your outfit looks so good. And she comes up and she goes, page, do a fucking twirl. You look so good. And I was like, that's my best friend. Let me go for her. I know when you have a bomb outfit, she's going to have one way and you're going to do the same fucking thing.

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Yes, I will tell her I'm like, you like run that way and I'm going to take an Instagram video of your ass and I'm going to post it because you look so good. So, like, why would I not do that for my friend? I agree. I think. Girls need to take like a page out of the guy's book. Yeah, that one, like, be less stuck up, B less in your heads, like we're all going to get ours.

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Yeah, you're fine.

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Just because one person is successful or like killing it at the moment doesn't mean that takes years away. It's just different timing.

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Totally. Totally. OK, Page. Yes. I can't explain to you how happy I am that you finally came on. I think this is so good. Now, next, it has to be me, you and Hannah. Yes. Oh, my God.

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I mean, we'll talk for twenty four hours, literally. Think I'm nervous. You need to tell us where we can find you on social media and then also tell us like about where summerhouse airs, et cetera.

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OK, so my Instagram is page underscored to Sorbo and then Summer House is Thursdays at nine p.m..

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Oh my God. Oh my. Like this is so fun. This was so it wasn't scary, right? No, not at all. I feel like I was talking to, like, one of my girlfriends. Right. Yeah. OK, I love you, Paige.

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Thank you so much for coming on. Daddy, you go show her love in her dreams. You guys are scary. People need to know that you guys like them and support them. I love you so much, Paige. Thank you. OK, Daddy gang.

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That is it for this week's episode. I hope you guys enjoyed that girl talk with Paige. We had a lot of fun doing it, and I honestly can't wait for the little collab with me.

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Paige and Hannah, next week is is going to be a bit of a different vibe, a little bit more on the degenerate side.

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I'm not a little bit more on the have you ever drank so much alcohol and just single handedly in one night fucked up your entire life?

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Say, I, I, I'm sitting here with Lauren. We were listening to the page episode together, and then we were like, OK, that was so fun. And next week is going to be fun for you guys. A little less fun for us. Lauren and I have single handedly, since moving to Los Angeles, consume more alcohol being here than I probably have my entire life.

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I've had sex more this past month and I had no parties single handedly taking down the entire state of Los Angeles. I have a fucking menace to society since moving here.

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It's honestly pretty crazy to see how much you've turned, which is great. You're like enjoying your life. You're doing your thing like no one's forcing you to do anything. You're just fun. I keep telling them I'm like, this is not the real me. I'm just having a quarter life crisis. You get me out at the wrong time. Right? Right. But now I'm starting to think this is the real. Yeah. Anyways, next week's episode, guys, we are going to do a full episode that is going to be almost that one episode that you're going to go back and listen to every single time you're hungover and you need a little pick me up, you're going to listen to that episode because you're going to feel a lot fucking better about your life, because we're going to fully throw ourselves under the bus and let you guys hear about the degenerate decisions that we have made since Los Angeles.

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Some of the things I haven't wanted to talk about on the podcast because I know my mom's going to call me. You'd be like you really did that to Mr. Scorsese. Do man like what's wrong with you? Like, what are you doing? And then other times Lauren was like, I need to talk about this because it's so shocking. It is. So there are things that I have not even told you yet because I'm like, I can't have her thing going.

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I'm a liability to our household every time I step out the door. So you're going to hear some things for the first time next week. Oh, last time I came home from Mr. Sykes's Your House in the Morning and fully are Lauren's keys were in the front door. I'm walking up to unlock my fucking house. And Lauren's keys are in the front door, left in the lock. I'm like, Good morning, sweetheart. You could have fucking died last night.

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Anyways, it's going to be fine. It's going to be amazing. You'll meet a new character. Yeah, you'll meet a new character. Country Club man. Mr. Sexy Zoo Man took Lauren Night to his country club where he introduced Lauren, which now he regrets the day he introduced Lauren to a man we are now calling Country Club Man, and he has taken Lauren out on a few dates.

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I've gone out with him three times. I've blocked out two of those times and it's been great. But great sex. You got fingers in her butthole and we see you motherfuckers next Wednesday. Six, six, six, six.