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Hey, everyone, welcome back to you on purpose. First of all, I just want to say a huge thanks to all of you who've gone out and ordered a copy of Think Like a Monk that has made it a number one New York Times bestseller.


That's a real celebration for us. We're celebrating how wellness and wisdom is winning thanks to each and every single one of you. And to celebrate that, this Friday, today, I wanted to share with you an episode that was a conversation between me and my good friend Eva Longoria, who read the book and had a ton of great questions. And I thought you'd really appreciate some of the answers, because sometimes when I'm having these very personal conversations, people ask a lot of thoughts and insights that I think will resonate with all of you.


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And I can't wait to hear my conversation with my good friend Eva Longoria.


Oh, my God. You wrote a book. You're so sweet. You've been supporting this book from when it just existed on a laptop. So I'm so grateful that you finally have the real thing in your home and in your hands.


I'm so excited for everybody.


I mean, everybody must know, Jay, but if you don't know Jay, he's the social media superstar. He's host of the number one podcast on purpose. I highly recommend it is one of my favorite podcasts. He has an amazing guests on there and your conversations with them. But everything from like Dennis Rodman to a neuro brain guy. It's so great. And you can get so much wisdom from so many of these people is also being considered a monk for modern times.


And I read that article. It was so good.


I don't know about that, but yeah, no, I'm not a monk anymore. But I did live as a monk. And just like what you were saying, like, you know, when I wrote this book, Think Like a Monk for me, it was I just got fascinated by monks minds. And I after I lived as a monk, I read all these studies that showed that monks from all traditions have the calmest, happiest and most compassionate brains in the world.


And so when they did brain scans on monks, they found that they had the highest form of gamma waves. And I thought, wow, this is amazing. But what if everyone could learn to think like that and have more compassion in their life, have more peace in their life and have more purpose in their life and not have to go to India for three years like you did, right?


Yeah, yeah. This is a recruitment strategy for sure. This is not at the end of this conversation. We're not going to shave our heads and get into some even early, if I might.


I'm so excited to talk to you about the book because I read it and I loved it. But like you say, first of all, your introduction, not even why you became a monk, how you became a monk, you come from a family like probably most families where there like we paid for your education, you're going to go and get a good job.


And then you had to tell them, hey, I'm going to go live with them. What was that? Because the introduction is so great. And you talk about, you know, the three options you had, which was lawyer, doctor or failure.


Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, my parents and my mom and dad have been very supportive of my crazy decisions as I got them more used to them. And they become more and more open as time went on. And I think that's the joy of parents, that if you're amazed, amazing, you've won so many hearts in your life. So you know what it's like to chase dreams and do multiple things at different times. And my parents were very supportive.


But the extended community and society had so many expectations, opinions and obligation. And I had my own and I think everyone in the world has this. And I was just saying to someone today that becoming a monk is almost like the ultimate rebellion because it's like saying that this doesn't work and I'm going to do it differently. And so whether you want to become a monk or whether you want to be an artist and no one in your family is an artist or whether you want to be a author or a musician and no one in your family has ever done that.


These books written in a way to help you make that transition of that rebellion, because becoming a monk is just breaking the mold of society. Yeah, I think all of us are trying to break the mold. You broke the mold. And I think, you know, each and every one of us has a monk mindset inside of us. Well, this is the book. Think Like a Monk. When is it out? It's out yesterday. It's yesterday.




My God. I first I love the cover, but in the book you talk about like just generally like a from a macro point of view, you talk about adopting the monk mindset is not only possible, it's necessary like in this day and age.


And I find it ironic that you are a social media star. It's like, how much how do you reconcile that? I mean, I think it's because. Your goal was to make spirituality viro write like you talk us through the reason why you wanted to write the book and make this for everybody to have.


Yes, when I when I learned all these principles, living as a monk, I always describe those three years like Monk School and then the last seven years since I've left, I left in twenty thirteen and twenty twenty now. So the last seven years has been like the exam. So it's almost like everything I learned in school. I've been testing it every year and now I feel like, oh, so much of it worked and I want to share the parts of it that worked.


And what we talk about social media, to be honest, even the truth is that I was trying to do this in so many ways, whether it was speeches, whether it was working. I was coaching people. I was working with people directly. I was trying to pitch it to media companies. But when I started out trying to share these messages, no one really cared, like no one was interested. And so I just used social media as a tool.


It wasn't that I knew it or I knew that it would work or anything. I just didn't have any other options left. So that's kind of where I got to in life. I was like, no one really cares about what I'm talking about. The only option I have is to try and use social media because it's free for everyone and you can create what you like. And I'm so grateful that everyone's responded with so much love so well. That just kind of gives you an idea of the thirst that people have for wisdom.


And you say in the book, like you went through this journey so that we could learn from it. I really didn't feel like that was your purpose. There's so many amazing chapters. There's like a purpose and intention and negativity and and fear. And I feel like one of my favorite chapters was the intention, because you talk about like there's different motivations for why you do things that could because the fear you're scared to fail. So you're going to go do it or love or it was a desire or duty.


And I find like your intention for writing this book was so pure, like it was just like I have to tell people about the monk perspective and how that wisdom that you learned is like thousands of years old and hasn't changed.


Right. It hasn't changed then. And even if you look at human challenges today, yes, I understand that technology is advanced. And, yes, I understand that we're living in a different world. But at the same time, our challenges still remain. We all want to find love. We all want to find a sense of purpose. No one wants negativity. Everyone wants more forgiveness in their life, like the things we yearn for are still those human exchanges and interactions.


And therefore, I find that this perspective is so necessary, as you said today, because who doesn't want a world where we're more compassionate, more loving, more kind, but also more focused, more disciplined and more empowered to make a difference?


I think that's something that we're all yearning for right now when I think you have a great chapter on negativity and I want to touch on it a little bit because like again, social media is so much of what we digest every day could be negative, whether it's negative comments or negative posts or even reading the news, you get just bombarded.


And you and I have a lot of the same mentors, Malcolm or Depok or the Four Agreements was a book that I.


Yeah, but I don't think he talked about words have emotional poison. And then when I was pregnant, I read a book about pregnancy and spirituality and he said, be careful what you ingest, like, be careful what is coming through. And you have a whole chapter on negativity and how when you were in the in the ashram ashram's. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. The monastery. Yeah. The monastery that you got so used to know gossip and then you go into the real world and it is everywhere.


And I feel like that is happening a lot with people like they want to fit in, they want to gossip, they want it. We all want it's human nature. Right. It takes work to avoid negativity. Can you talk a little bit about that chapter? Because it's one of my favorite ones. Having the right answer is so satisfying, whether it's solving a problem at work or exchanging trivia with friends, the great courses plus is a priceless source of knowledge in just about any field.


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I started with this beautiful quote, I want to show up to everyone here, and it's from the Akeda, which is chaptered to negativity in the book, and in it it says it is impossible to build one's own happiness on the unhappiness of others. And that's what that chapter is based on, that quotes by al-Qaeda. And and that wisdom for me is just so powerful because I feel gossip or negativity. Talking about people always trying to do is make ourselves feel a little bit better because someone else is struggling with.


The problem with that mindset is that tomorrow you might be the one struggling and someone might be talking about you. And so if you're building your happiness on the unhappiness of others, then tomorrow someone's going to build their happiness on your unhappiness and the cycle just goes on. Whereas we realize why I'm on my journey. You're on your journey. I've got lessons I need to learn. You've got lessons you need to learn. And actually, one of the stories in the event that I don't know if you like the story, but I love it.


It's an old parable and a Zen story of the evil king who comes to me. The good king. Yeah. So the evil king comes to me, the good king. I won't give away the whole story. But the point is that so many of the times we project our own insecurities and our own pains onto people around us. And that's a really harsh reality. But it's the only way to start avoiding this negative spiral when you start to feel bad about someone who just keeps going well.


But that ties in all the chapters tying together, but that ties into your identity chapter. Right. And so I feel like you said this is a quote from identity is like our self is tied up and how we think others see us. But most of our efforts at self-improvement are really just trying to meet that imagined ideal. So most of our efforts to be a better person or whatever is it even for yourself? It's so I hope they think I'm nice.


I hope they think I'm a good person. I want my legacy to be that I'm a humanitarian and it's not really working inward out. It's working outward in and and that quote I love the one about. It's cool. I live by the school. I love really. I'm not what I think I am. I'm not what I think you think I am. I am what I think you think I am. I love that negativity and identity. And like we live in social constructs.


Right. Of like what people think we should be, whether women or sexuality or race. And it's so applicable right now. Talk about.


Yeah, I love that. I love how you're connecting it to what's happening in the world right now, because I think that's the most important part about this, was that it's so relevant and so applicable. And yeah, I think the challenges that we've all built up boxes and we try and put people into boxes to understand them. And the mind does that to make life easier. But actually it makes life harder because people are more diverse and people are more than the box and the label you put them in and people want to be seen as more and people.


But because since we were young, we were told to it was almost like stand in line, you have to fit in. And then all of a sudden as you grow up, it's all about standing out. Right. No one wants to fit in when they grow up. And when you're young, you're told to fit in. And so I find that a lot of what's needed is personal stillness and silence and space to actually what do I believe and who do I want to be for myself?


And let me think about how to best express that rather than getting tied up in the noise. And I think this is something we have to do daily. It's not something you do once and then you're done with it. Like I have to do this every day. My life is so different now to what it used to be. And I'm challenged with this every day and always a work in progress. And you can't just say, OK, I've done it.


I've figured out who I am.


Yeah, I think last time I was on the podcast with you was telling you about this child rearing. I listen to podcast with child psychologist about race. It's called Raising Good Humans by Dr. Eliza. And she said for toddlers, you have to meet them where they're at. Right. Like if they're screaming because they want the toy, play with them with that toy and meet them where they're at. And I thought, that's for everybody. That's not for toddlers.


That's all great.


Like, I've met some people who are just rude and angry and I go, wow, I don't know what has made them to be in this space, but that's where they're at, right? Yes. I'm going to accept that that's where that person is. And then another time, that person's not in that space, then. Yeah, or not is involved in. So meeting. I feel like identity has a lot to do with that. Like you have to some people just don't haven't figured it out yet.


And that's OK. Totally.


And I love what you're saying because we've all come from such different backgrounds. And so what was normal in your culture may be totally abnormal and mine and whatnot. And I think that's the part that we we almost need to open up our minds to, which is that compassion and nonjudgmental part of like let me really understand what this person's saying and. Even if I disagree with them right now, let me at least understand it fully, I think sometimes we don't know the line between disagreement and understanding.


Well, and I think if you can even tie that to what is happening right now in our country and states, but like in the world of tying to the ego chapter. Right. Yeah. That like we have such an ego about those boxes. Yeah. Whether it's political parties or whether it's race or whatever it is. And it's so separating to us. How could the monk mindset help us right now and not do that? Don't judge people by the box you put them in in your mind.


You know, I think we have to strip away the boxes and see people as humans and we really have to see people and understand their background, understand why they made decisions and why do we not do this? Because it's hard work, because we want to be lazy. The mind wants the easy route, the shortcut, the fast way out to be like, oh, I saw you do that. OK, you're not a good person. Oh, I saw you do that.


You're a bad person. And the point is, no one is inherently good or bad. You know, we have Nelson Mandela talk about that. Nelson Mandela would say that if people can be taught to hate them, then they can be educated for love. And, you know, it's like that we're taught to hate, right? We're trained to hate. And I think that that's what the ego does so much, is that it makes you feel safe by hating someone else rather than looking into yourself and trying to understand.


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So when I sat down with Dennis Rodman, my fascination is not basketball.


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Blankest dot com forward slash J. You could do a whole book about ego. I mean, I think it's such a big word. You got a great podcast with Jada Pinkett Smith. Yeah, she really articulated it so great. And she was talking about the martyr victim. Like she was like, I thought I didn't have an ego because I was so I was the victim. How could I have an ego? And it was like the same thing like that shows up and it manifests in different ways.


Yeah, I remember her saying that from that conversation. She was you know, we were talking about how the ego either makes you think you're the best or it makes you think you're the worst. And so it's like I have the worst life. I have it worst. I have the worst career, the worst family, the worst part. Like, it's like my situation is the worst. And that's, again, the egos competing to be the worst.


And just as the ego competes to be the best, the reverse, the false ego to be the worst. And the truth is that all of us I think Robin Roberts said this and she said, you know, if we threw all of our problems into a pile and we looked at them, we'd grab us right back. And it's just such a unique perspective that, yeah, if you actually looked at everyone's problems in the same place, you'd just be like, oh, yeah, like I minority probably better than the problem.


Yeah. I think that here's the thing. I also want people to know that you're not safe is a monk mindset. That means no ambition, no dreams, no competition. That's not what the book is saying. And so I think sometimes people might go, oh, come on, I mean, I want to have a nice car. I want to have a house one day like you explain it so well in the book. But but talk about how that doesn't mean that.




Thank you for noticing that subtlety, because I'm so glad you're solving that misconception, because a lot of people say that to me that I care. But, you know you know, you live in L.A. now and you're married and you have a home and and I'm like, yeah. Like, I'm not telling you to live like a monk. I'm saying that there are certain mindsets of how a monk thinks about things. So the first thing that we understand is monks is that nothing is good or bad.


Everything is given meaning by how you use it. So if I take, for example, this microphone that I have here, it's like this is the microphone. We recorded our podcast on. And the microphone is not good or bad. It's given meaning by how I use it. I can even stand here and say really hateful, hurtful things towards people. Or we could be asking questions about humanity and compassion and love. And similarly, social media is not good or bad.


It's how you use it. Some people are using it to pull people down. Some people are using it to pull people up. So as a monk, you realize that money is just energy, that fame and power are just energy, that resources access, just energy. And all of us have a choice every day to use our energy to lift people up or pull people down. And so it's not about not having it. It's about what you do when you get it.


Yeah, and that's the key part. And that's what shows detachment. So people think detachment means indifference. The detachment doesn't mean a different detachment is a beautiful statement by a man.


I love the concept of detachment. Please talk about it. So there's a beautiful statement by an Islamic teacher, Al Shafie, and he says that detachment doesn't mean that you own nothing. Detachment means that nothing owns you. And what that means is that it doesn't mean you can't have the car or you can't have the house and you can't have the career. It's that those things don't own you. You're engaging with them to serve and support as many other people as you can.


And so the monk mindset can actually help you become more focused and disciplined. And again, going back to what you said before, purifying your intention. Yeah, if your intention is just to be rich and famous, there's enough rich and famous people that will tell you that that's not worth it.


If the intention chapter. That's why you have the Wilander and I remember God, it was before way before covid Jane, I forgot for lunch and I was having a write in a question in my life and I was like, okay, so I need to figure out what questions I need to ask myself because I got to figure out if I really want to do that, if I want to go this way. And you gave me the wine ladder and then I read it later in the book, I was like, that was the one.


But if you say we all have different goals, but we all want the same things, a life full of joy and meaning. But if you chase happiness, that can be elusive and that it's hard to sustain a high level of joy, but to feel meaning shows that our actions have purpose. So I love that. I love that that the way you put that to feel meaning shows that we have purpose then and then you're not chasing the car in the house and the because will be a constant chase.


But if you chase meaning and purpose, it's more fulfilling. So that's my mindset. No.


Yeah. I mean, the way you've understood the book even is the way I pray. Everyone understands. It's just the way. You formulated it in the way you're expressing it's beautiful and yet the goal is, and I took this all the time, that if you live your purpose and find your meaning, everything else will come as a byproduct of that. And that's a beautiful life to live with. The abundance comes because you are so aligned and that's when we're out of alignment that we're chasing something that that isn't there.


And I can exploit this for my own self. Like, you know, if you get everything out of alignment, you won't be satisfied. But when you have everything in alignment, it feels really beautiful to have. And so, yeah, I'm not encouraging anyone to not be successful, to not go off to their goals. Actually, I want to help you get there in a way that you can keep it. That's the difference in the mindset and among mindset doesn't teach you how to get to your goals.


It tells you how to keep success and keep joy when you've got there. And I know so many people and I know you do, too, that have got there without that and then had to evolve into that after it to make sense of all of it. Yeah.


Well, I'm going to ask you one more question, because there's too much to talk about, because we're going to do a meditation after that.


So what is the one thing people can do today that can help them have a monk mindset? Like what is the one thing? I mean, there's a hundred things, but what's the first step? I guess what's the first step anyone can take?


So I'm going to leave them on a really easy one, OK? And it's because this is how we would start our days every day. And so Monk starts the day with gratitude, gratitude to the earth, gratitude to their teachers and mentors, gratitude to the divine, gratitude to God. And so I want you today, everyone, not just to feel gratitude, not just to experience it, but I want you to express something. Now, here's the key about expressing gratitude scientifically and spiritually.


It only works when it's done in this way. So even name two of your friends, they don't have to be real. You can give me imaginary names if you don't.


Ross and Maria. OK, we'll take Ross and Maria if Ross and Maria real. Here's my disclaimer. None of this reflects who they are in real life. I do not know Ross Ave Maria. So let's say either you throw a party once this is all over, you throw a party at your home, everyone comes, your closest friends come. Hopefully I'm invited and Ross and Maria come. And the next day they both message Ross messages you in typical Ross style and he goes, Thank you.


You've had a great time. That's it. And then Miriam as a Jew and she goes, Eva, you're amazing. I loved it yesterday.


Your family is so beautiful. And the food was incredible and oh my God, the games were so much fun. I needed this in my life. I'm so glad you're in my life. OK, now when you get those, if it's a very grateful person. So you're grateful for both of them, but which one fills you with more joy, right? That Maria one. Obviously, Maria, unless anyone's being awkward, it's Maria that fills with more joy.


Now, why is that so scientifically and spiritually when our gratitude is specific, when our gratitude is detailed, not only do we feel more joy giving it, but the other person feels more joy of receiving it. So when you're saying thank you to someone, tell them why you are thankful to them. Be really clear about it, because when you think about that, you go, oh wow, if that person did that for me, they must really love me.


And then the person is receiving it thinks, wow, if that person thought about that, they must really love me. And all of a sudden you've got this beautiful human bond. And we started like that. You know, we have to know each other very quickly. And we had a mutual friend, Monoid Hooda. Yeah. That knew we would get along well. Again, Mona, who I love so much, do I love so much.


And so it's just when you start that when you express gratitude, it changes your life. So that's the simplest thing.


Yeah. Personalized gratitude. There's so many meditations. The other thing I think is meditation. And that's I mean, you talk about it, but like, people think it's hard, right. And it's so hard and it shouldn't be hard. The point is it should be effortless. And so I know. What do you meditate for two hours a day? Yeah.


About that. Yeah. One and a half to two hours now. Yeah. Oh my gosh. I just go down one and a half sometimes because you're busy launching the book that's why.


Yeah. Well you guys it's available today, yesterday. So think like a monk. It's so great. I just love it. There's so many gems in here that you guys are going to go oh my gosh, I love when a book really just opens something up and you that that you go, oh, that's what I've been trying to articulate and never have been able to. And you do it so many times. And I thank you for going on a journey to be a mom so that we have you now today on your podcast on purpose and now your book and just access as a friend to me.


Thank you so much for everything. Your videos are just I can't tell you how many people send me one of your videos from Instagram going, oh, my gosh, you've got to check this out. And I go, I really saw. Because I follow Jay, but like they go in case you needed to hear this today, in case you need to see this today, and I'm just thankful that you exist.


I'm thankful to you. I'm so thankful that we connected. I'm so grateful we became friends. I'm still gutted that I've never met Santa yet, say internally, a bit mad at you. But I think every time I see videos of him, I fall in love with him. So I know people love zanti. Yeah, he's the best, is the best. And now I'm so grateful to have a thank you for your continued love and support. I don't take it for granted.


And now I just love the soul and energy you are. And you're such a powerhouse. You're just such a powerhouse. You are so deep. But then you go so far and wide to make a change in the world. And and that's you're living this. You're living everything that's in the book. So thank you for giving people an example.


It's work and it's just it's so rewarding. It's so rewarding. But, you know, there's so many I'm so curious and I devour all of these lessons from many, many people. And I'm so glad that you're going to now be one of those people I get to digest every day.


So do you want to do the five minute meditation half time?


If you don't, we don't. I do. I absolutely do a meditation.


I'm using a three hour. Krista, we're not doing three hours a day in five minutes, but I'm using a YouTube sound from a YouTube page called Healing Vibrations that beautiful if anyone wants to use it afterwards. This is a four hundred thirty two hertz, three hour Kristo singing bow healing sound. So if you're going to the channel Healing Vibrations, they have so many beautiful soundtracks to meditate on and sleep to and everything to check them out. I don't know who they are.


I just love them. And so I've been telling everyone about them, but they're really, really brilliant. We're going to use one of their sounds today. So we're going to close our eyes. Everyone, close your eyes. Nina, just give me a thumbs up when you hear this sound great. So I just want everyone. To find a place. Of course. Violence is. Stoner's. And unappeased. Whenever your mind wanders. Just gently and softly bring it back to calm.


Is. Stoner's. Become aware of your natural breathing pattern, breathing in and out. Breathing in through your nose and with your mouth slightly open, exhaling. Just becoming aligned with your natural breathing pattern.


And as you breathe in, roll your shoulders back and as you breathe out, roll them backwards and down as you breathe and roll your shoulders, back it up as you breathe out, roll them back in town as you breathe, then roll your shoulders back up as you breathe out of your shoulders, back and down, just feeling aligned and rooted and grounded.


Now, place your right palm on your. And repeat after me. I'm exactly where I'm meant to be. You can say to your. I'm exactly where I'm meant to be. And once more, I'm exactly where I meant to be. Allowing yourself to be present with your mind and body. Reminding yourself that you're not ahead of behind. At all the power. Exists right now. Now, thoughts to come in and out. Just being present with your breath.


Place your palms upward on your knees, your palms facing upwards. And as you breathe in, clench your palms. And as you breathe out, extend them out of. Extend your fingers, breathe in and clench your palms are breathing, extend your fingers.


An influential palms. Upriver and extend your fingers. We're going to do that three more times.


But this time, when you exhale, I want you to feel like you're letting go of any negative stress or tension, food, energy, and as you breathe in your breathing, an uplifting, empowering energy supre then positive, uplifting energy and breathe out, really exhaling and letting go.


Then. Unbreathable. Breathing, powerful energy, and without any negative tension, food, energy. And repeat after me, so I let go of anything that doesn't serve me. And when you're ready. In your own time, at your own pace. You can gently and softly open your eyes. So that was just a short five minute meditation and hopefully allowed you all to just feel present with yourself and allowed you to just rest into your breath and let go.


And just doing that for five minutes a day allows you to just really feel that your presence with your body not rushing around in your head or your mind and also recognizing that you can train yourself to let go. So hopefully that helped you. But I hope everyone watching that helped, too. Oh, my gosh.


I love it. I love it. I love meditation so much. I love journaling. I love all of it. But you do make a point about meditation, about it's like anything else. The more you dedicate to it, the better it works. If you want to learn a language, you don't do it five minutes a day. You're going to do a little longer and you want to meet somebody and spend time with them. You don't say just five minutes a day, so try to build try to build upon it, right?


Absolutely. Yeah, this is amazing. Thank you so much.


Thank you for letting me ask you a million questions about this. I still have a million more conversations I could have with you. I am so happy that this poured out of you. And I know it was a lot of work. So it's available now. Go and order it. It's amazing. And don't forget to go to Jay's podcast on purpose. It has if you're struggling with any topic, you just go through the episodes and you go, that's what I do.


I just go like, what do I need today?


And I go, I can't wait to have you back on. We've got some really exciting guests coming up to. So I'm really looking forward to your feedback. I love getting your feedback on the podcast. It means the world to me. So thank you. I'm so excited about, I think like a man. Thank you. Everyone who stayed with us. My gosh, everybody hates us. And we're going to repost this. So if you guys just the beginning or the end, Jay and I were both posted on our social media channels.


Yeah, perfect match. You look bad things to everybody who is on right now where we zoom. So, everybody, thank you so much. Thank you, Jay.


Thank you, everyone. Thank you so much. Give my love to Sgt. Pepper as well. I will. Thank you guys. But.