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You are listening to the Darina lead show. I'm Daryn. I've spent the last 15 years exploring the planet, looking for healthy foods, super foods, environmental solutions, and I've had my mind blown along the way by the people, the far off places I have been and the life altering events that have changed my life forever. My goal is to help you dive deep into some of the issues of our modern day life, society's fatal conveniences, the things that we do that we're indoctrinated into thinking we have to, even though those things are negatively affecting us and in some cases slowly destroying us and even killing us.
Every week I have honest conversations with people that inspire me. My hope is, through their knowledge and unique perspectives, they'll inspire you two together. We'll explore how you can make small tweaks in your life that amount to big changes for you, the people around you and the planet. So let's do this. This is my show, the Darin Olean Show. What's up, everybody? How's it going? Hey, thanks for tuning in, stoked to have you here with me today as I share the next amazing guest.
You know, I am just blown away by how incredible people are when they put their mind to something and when they dedicate every cell of their body to something and when they decide and they would never call themselves that, but kind of put themselves in a mastery position after dedication, studying full immersion. So I always want to highlight when I have those people on the podcast, I always want to highlight when people have jumped in with full force and to really understand their craft, to really exercise learning, constantly learning, constantly being curious.
And my next guest is just that Rory Cordiale is a doctor of physical therapy. And you would not even I mean, you would know it because he's brilliant, but you wouldn't know it because he has all these other tools in his tool belt because of his navigation, through his own curiosity about how to be a conduit and how to be a person that can heal and help someone heal. Right. So everything from the top athletes literally in the NBA and NFL, he gets flown all around the United States on a whim to get help people get back on the court.
He's been on the road with Jay-Z and Beyonce, and his list literally just keeps on going. And he has helped me personally. And he also comes from a long line of healers, like his father was a physical therapist. All of his brothers are doctors of chiropractic, physical therapists, all of that stuff. But the thing that's cool about Roy, not only is he is human, that is just great to be around with his presence, with this thoughtfulness, with his real, true desire to help people.
But he's always searching to be a better conduit for healing. And so he's an expert in tai chi and Qigong. That's understanding and understanding the energy flows in the body that have been studied for over ten thousand years in relation to traditional Chinese medicine. So we're talking like the ancient of the ancient healing modalities. So he becomes a student of that just so that he can understand and be followed with where stagnant energy is. And oftentimes there's an injury or about to be an injury there.
So this is more than just a physical learn something physical in this episode. This is more of exploring the view of how he goes about viewing the body and how he understands himself in relation to exploring how to be a great healer. This is for everybody, this conversation and anyone who's pursuing anything. You'll understand that by listening to Rory, you have to be really clear what you want in order to have this level of curiosity, but also this level of openness to receive the kind of learnings that you then can be a better facilitator.
So enjoy this episode with my good friend Rory CARGILE.
Talk to me about I mean, you're living your passion, you're doing what you love, you're constantly learning, you're constantly curious and you get results like John McGinley was like blown like to get him. Yeah. So into, you know, to be debilitated and then, boom, you get out of that in a couple hours, unraveling the multi complexity of the body and being able to see that and to unravel that is truly a gift, plus the energy that you bring to it.
You have such a killer energy as well, so so I mean, I could go on, but talk to me about how you kind of ended up here and finding your path and then, you know, down the line we can unpack some of the stuff that you actually do in your practice.
OK, well, it definitely resonates when you said I do do like I definitely am doing what I love. So, so lucky for that. And I think, like, my brain naturally is creative, like in different ways. So the fact that I'm working with the body, there's like nothing to me more creative because we're all so unique, like everybody is so unique. But there's also so many similarities. Right. And like there's so much depth to work with the body.
It's amazing on so many levels that I'm sure we'll talk about different layers of it. But so that for me is really fun because it's you get this chance to connect with someone and create and understand what's going on with them, what's the pain point or the performance point that they want to get to? And then how can you be this guy and part of that journey of getting out of pain, improving the performance, et cetera. But like you said, I started my dad's a physical therapist of like he's seventy one, I want to say.
So like 40 plus years he's been working with the body. And that's amazing for me to have grown up with that, with him around and for him to be able to work on me. I went to physical therapy, so I got my doctorate at University of Montana in Missoula, where I'm from. I went back there for school. And what an opportunity because it's three years education program. But I got to go to the clinic, talk to him about what I was learning in school.
Like, what about this? And so and and for people, if you feel the hands of someone that's worked on the body for five years, 10 years, 20 years, 40 years, it's just a different depth like so to feel his hands like you can have knee pain or something. And he literally can just. Just like this off the body, like and then point right here like he can, so the depth, the ability to listen to the body to is off the charts like we see of all of that subtle energy and to have all that time to develop the sixth, seventh sense of what that is.
Yeah, you can't make that up. No. See in your private badass tutor while you're.
Yeah. Yeah, definitely. And I really like think observe that. And he taught me early on, I think that power of when you work with someone, you can be really direct, like I'm going to move your leg here and here, you know what I mean? I'm going to stretch here. So I'm just going to stretch you apart or move this. It's I'm in charge, right. I'm moving this or I can be more indirect and I can listen to what is your body, what you want to do.
What are you telling me? If I'm working on your shoulder, if I'm more listening to the tissue, does it want to go into extension or flex or. It's a different way of thinking. Right then then you're traditionally taught in school. But that I think that really opened like opened my eyes to more of like what you were saying. Sixth sense that the energetic body like there's something definitely something within us, beyond our physical senses, our physical body.
We know that pops out. And what you're saying is like, oh, that's collaborative. Effort there, that's that's your your because what you know, you kind of prescriptively go through school, you know, this equals that if this happens, that is and you just kind of like and you're learning base physiology and kinesiology and movement and all of that stuff, however.
Then if you're with this new entity in this person, you now are in collaboration with what that body's telling you. Now writing a new script as to what that body needs, therefore moving it, giving it, feeling it, opening it up, turning something on, turning something off, like that's a completely without getting woo woo about it. You don't like your dad? I would imagine he's not, you know, giving seminars on subtle energy stuff. He's just cultivated it.
Yeah. It's like. Yeah. And when you talk about like that subtle energy or you can't really like our words but don't really describe it, it's like it's like you feel it right. It's like energy. Like even like electromagnetic energy, if you go to magnets and you put them north, like north north, yeah, I feel that that resistance you can see the field of energy between but definitely like it's there. Right. I think being open to the unknown, like the like you said, the space, the space within the body, the that that to me is everything, because it's like the flip of that constriction tightening protection, isolation, those that's that's like the.
Starting point or that, that's more like the Zed's dysfunction, but then way down the road. Yeah, it's like, OK, how did it get there? And and what's the map or what's the that subtle map that's going to unfold in front of me as I move this body around, as I feel what's going on and I feel the tissue and I.
Yeah. And like you said, it's like that I'm really aware of my state, like my physical mental state. I try to really be present, you know what I mean? Like even off camera, just just a second to just breathe and move. That's kind of how like if I'm going to treat someone or I definitely want to connect myself. Right. And connect. I want to go in present almost like a blank slate, like like an idea of like, I'm going to fix you more that day, I guess.
Listening aspect of the body. What are you telling me, verbally, verbally, subjectively, what's going on? What's and then your perception of your pain, your dysfunction or what's important to you. And then at the same time I'm assessing what do I see? What's my reality? Me understanding different systems of the body, Arthur kinematics like the joints, how things move together, the bones posture, all these different systems that work together, like simultaneously for optimal function.
That's like so it's all like running in the background, you know what I mean.
Like these programs that are running and you're kind of have these natural algorithms. Yeah. That's going on. But you're also tuning yourself, you're making yourself a receptacle or an open vessel to be receptive of the things that you don't know yet. And that's that's the difference. And then and then it's almost like you have spent your quote unquote, education as kind of the preparation. Right. So there's this foundation. Exactly. So you have a lot larger library that can run the background of the algorithm.
Right. So that's running. But you as the healer has to show up and receive absolutely new information for every person that you meet.
Yeah, definitely. Yeah.
And that's what you said. You said that I definitely am a constant student of the body and in like many realms, you know, the multiple systems. Embryology, developmental kinesiology, but like, I like to really go like what is like what's the truth of the body, like really micro to the atomic level, like quantum physics or versus the difference between classical and quantum physics and trying to understand at the essence who are we? And also spend back like what's the big picture or what are the similarities you see when you span back to the universe?
It's trying to I think the idea of going big, small, the depth, understanding the depth of the human body and just nature in general and humans, that's what I'm doing with my time, you know what I mean? Constantly like learning and. Right. And then that can be in the background. Then when I'm actually working, then it's more about just being present and open to. Yeah, try to help someone solve the puzzle.
And it's not like you're sitting there, you know, waving wands or saying, Montreaux, you're you're running that silently inside your head and someone could, you know, come with a busted up ankle or knee. And but your approach is always the same from that large perspective. Right. But then there's then you're all the way down to being a mechanic. Exactly. Of the body to it's like and it's like, OK, you just sprained your ankle.
You've got compensatory patterns going all the way up, maybe originated from this, you know, collapsed knee and the joint and blah, blah, blah. But the difference with you is that you're running all of this other infinite call it programming and you're accessing, dare I say, a lot more potential information.
I don't know. I think that's the space I'm in, though. Like, so so but because that's that's a huge I mean, one could say some of the Rakhi people and all of that will say these some of these kind of words will do subtle energy and they'll work just in that plane. Right. And lay hands on people and all that stuff. And that's a different thing. But also they're acknowledging at least one thing and maybe getting a little more woo woo about it, for lack of a better word.
But it's almost like you have built your library with this very pragmatic side, but then you quietly exercise this other. So I'm curious as to what led you to so you're learning from your dad, you're feeling his hands. But I'm this is I don't know. I suspect your dad wasn't necessarily talking like this.
Yeah, not exactly. Not exactly. But his presence maybe. I don't know. So how did you end up at this? Because, listen, everyone like I met Rory, we train together a few times. I met him through a professional tennis coach, Sam Smock, and then my back was been messed up since since I was thirty five years back in football. So I'm like Rory. And so Rory's been working on me. It does does magic.
And we end up finding like we pull the string and you know, I've got this lateral band tight. These, you know, medius quads are on fire. My TFL is shut off. My medius is not like glue media. So like all this stuff. And to be able to then really step into that and unravel that with confidence and go into that. So I'm coming as a as a patient of feeling your work and now several others. So I'm like, that's not normal, which is why you get flown around the country and world to do your work.
So how did you I want to hear that point where you were like, I'm studying. I'm totally fascinated with the body, blah, blah, blah. And all of a sudden you went think like, holy shit, this is a whole other there's a lot more going on than just these books that I'm reading and studying.
I'm trying to think because I don't know, it's it's hitting me instantly. Is like this or is this point like this turning point of thinking. It's really nice to hear you say nice things about my work. So when people get better they just are feeling great. After we've done work, it definitely feels good. And I think it's reinforcement like that. The path that. What I'm doing is it's right or good, you know, but I think just trying to think of like this pivot point of a definitely am really sound in science and I have to give my dad a lot of credit because he he's always been like that.
I think he like he he does do tech like there's one technique called cranial sacral, which cranium the sacrum, the spine. The idea of it's definitely like more of a subtle, energetic technique. It's really. Yes. I don't mean like.
Yeah, it's like it's not cracking. It's not snapping. It's not it's not high for us. It's not high movement. It's very subtle. But there's movement within the body always constantly. So it's like bringing your awareness to different levels of the body, different areas in. I guess that's something my brain has always done naturally is like. Being able to I'm very kinesthetic, a very much learn through touching more so than verbal or reading or just listening to someone I always have to put like in school when during lectures I'm writing like almost every word.
The professor saying because it's how my brain connects, it links it, leaks the information. And then then I would before finals, then I'm rewriting all my notes like so I might have 40 pages of notes written and I organized like but it's this this kinesthetic connection. And then I could remember every like I had this process when I studied where was like I would I would write down, organize my notes and you can only process so much information at some time.
So I would maybe I'm ten pages before final, then I go lie on the ground, read. I do. I guess I was taught in school in a philosophy class about meditation and mindfulness in this idea of just simple, just connecting to your breath and then as thoughts arise, being mindful of them, but not attaching to them and letting them go and coming back to your breath. And I took that technique to to like my studying. So you feel in your brain with all this information to test.
But then I would try to forget it in a sense like which is kind of counterintuitive because it's like but I had to trust like I know it. I just studied, I wrote it. I have it in me. But I want to create space for me to add more and to to not have that so I can retrieve it faster.
Some I felt like if I could go through these pages from page one page to, you know, up and down and then all of a sudden ten minutes, I have everything like in my head and then I continue. So I might have 40 pages of notes and then I go to go to bed and I'll go through all 40 pages in my head. And then I would go to sleep, like because some classmates would cram before Testor. I always slept like I needed to sleep.
I wouldn't study after that. But then I always that technique worked for me. I felt like I could retrieve and I could during a test, I could see the page, the right where I wrote. And sometimes I couldn't get to like I know exactly where this answer is at, like I studied it. I have it, but I can't. So then during the test, I would be like, let it go. Like, OK, just let that go.
Go to the next one and then it pops in your head. So something about that belief or that that truth for me on creating space to allow the answers to come or this. So maybe like, I don't know, there's a trust there to trust. Yeah, but but it's but it is it's counterintuitive to what everyone it's contraction normally is like crime, crime, crime, stress, stress, stress, which is just insane because we kids still do that.
And it's the worst way to learn stress is not going to retain. It's like there's a photographic muscle that you're seemed to be working as well. I mean, my ex-wife, Eliza, when she was getting ready for her huge day of shoots and monologues and stuff, she would literally be scratching.
She can even read it, scratching the lines. She'd do it once, maybe twice, but mostly once it was there.
And she could be babbling about something and then the, let's say, action and wham! And she doesn't even she just got so used to trusting it. She wasn't rehearsing her lines. There were just in there. And that reminds me of it. You were practicing. There's something about that. And I, I too am visual that way. Like when it came to kinesiology and body and touching, like that's where I was like boom like OK that is attached to that to veracity in that like oh I get it.
Like it's forever and forever there. And it's, and it's also an exploration and how each of us learn. You have to find that you kind of you don't have we can't copy people. Sometimes it works out where that technique can work, but we have to figure that out on our own. Yeah. So then your dad would do a bunch of this subtle stuff. So he'd do. I mean, cranial sacral is very powerful. It's holding positions of the sub occipital and the and the and the sacrum.
And you're moving because that. Mine is intimately connected, so in that in learning about that from him, that was essentially that first part of understanding subtlety within moving and manipulation.
Yeah, definitely. Like you said, you said subtle and powerful because it's like it's not always what you think. Think like if I'm going to hit something harder, more power. But to understand the enormous power and something so gentle, that's that's kind of a big deal when you first start working on the body. I remember another thing he taught me as a student, like so let's say like the radial head. Are you trying to find, like, the attachment of a muscle?
And as a student, it's like when you first are you don't trust yourself. You're like, OK, where is this muscle?
And I'm pushing in it and I feel like I like it hurts, you know what I mean? Or like you're trying to find and you feel it, but you feel right through the muscle like you. It's like you don't trust yourself. You and he's like, you know, it's like just to just trust, you know, where it's at. You know the body, you know the anatomy. Like just put your hand there. And so that I mean, what a gift that is, because not everyone had that kind of edge.
That's not normal for how you're taught to just just trust yourself. Just be open to your intuition to to like that listening component of the body. Just put your hands right on the pieces, the the the hips. If you're checking how someone lifts one leg or the other leg and is there any posterior and you tilt any movement through the pelvis, can you just just be there first to go right to it versus you have to push hard and try to find through.
So. So I think that and then my brain, I think being able when you study in depth, multiple systems, the muscles, the bones, the nerves, the blood, the organs, like if you if I can go to layers, like, OK, I'm going to this muscle, I'm going to go to this this specific muscle or to appreciate depth of tissue, skin, fat, muscle, fascia, bone. If I'm talking to like more of the bones, the how is this the kinematics of the femur in the ileum.
How did they move together in relation or so it takes you all over the place.
Yeah. So so you know, you've worked on a lot of bodies, a lot of athletes, a lot of artists.
Like if you were like, you know, we can nerd out for sure. And and so if someone's listening to this, like what are some things? Some things, not the only things, because it's impossible for us to distill it down. But what are some things people can be more aware of to have and move and be with a healthier moving body? You know what I mean? Because you're constantly seeing and of course, there's so many layers to that, like there's emotional, mental, what you're doing, how you're sitting, how you're behaving, the how you're eating.
But are there things from your perspective, if you were to say, man, if people would only understand. One to you know what I mean is there is there are some things that seem to have overarching themes that pop up. That we have this incredible body is a fucking miracle. Like, unbelievable miracle, I know you share that with me because it's like you've studied it, I've studied a little bit compared to you, but holy shit, yeah, it's amazing, it's amazing.
And yet we're consciously in it. Yeah. Like our consciousness and lives in it, our spirit or whatever. And so we this is this is my body. Yeah. But there's theme's there's, there's the what are some of those themes that big big like you said, awareness like miracle of the body. I think gratitude right away is is huge and it's definitely studied in science. Like the listeners can go to PubMed or Google scholar or how is gratitude and health of the human body or gratitude is so important.
So if you can put your mind into just to understand the miracle of the body and just and just just being grateful for the body we have, because we can be so judgmental and so harsh sometimes that not happy with the look of our body, the state of our body, etc.. But so I think gratitude, just being a mindshift to to being grateful. And then there's components that we know that really impact our health, mental, physical and movement exercises enormous.
Like if there is one pill everyone could take to help everything. Right. Inflammation, the brain, the heart, your heart rate, your cardiovascular disease, everything exercise.
Right. You have to do it. The greatest biohacking ever. Yeah, it's amazing. And it doesn't even take much. I think if if the listeners believe the power of small steps consistently becoming big, big, big deal like that idea of momentum like one domino hits two, it's three hits four. And all of a sudden you have this this momentum, this energy that can happen like. So just move, move more move today and then there's layers that.
And then I think I think it's important. Then you need to know the direction where you want to head. So I want to make changes to my body. Then I think it's important to have a clear plan on how to do that, to create some clarity in your brain. I'm more of a map because we're so habitual and we have to busy today to work out or to do this or whatever. It has to be clear, I think like almost no choice.
It's important to me to have a healthy body and how do I do that? So I think you have to sit down and write it out like this is you don't necessarily have to go to the gym either. And I think that's important. I think just just moving, getting outside, getting in nature, getting up and down off the floor. A body weight movement. It's important to load our body, to load our muscle, our bones, our joints.
I do little streaks like 30 day, 60 day streak. So calm where it's just it's kind of a mental discipline on your mind or your body run you or do you run your mind or do you? Who's in charge? Kind of like my wife and I right now. She's doing in thirty days of yoga. I'm doing thirty days at Qigong and it's kind of like a no, it's not a negotiation. It's like you. It's yes or no.
Thirty days. So she got sick at like day fifteen and I was with her and I stopped like so we both stopped. So then we better start over. So now we're like day five, so you know what I mean. It's not like you do Toyin. So I do. Thirty day. Here's my deal. Thirty days and I at fifteen. I'm sick for two days and I'm back. So it's like I did twenty five out of thirty.
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If you do not take a conscious action, action will be impressed upon you and that probably will not be in your best interest.
Yeah, agreed. So that's the plan. I think, like if you can, whether it's a streak or it's I'm going to do 10 minutes of this and then then it builds. And then if you if you believe in that momentum, you stack that it will lead 20 to 30 that you're in a new body. You know what I mean? You see the world differently. You're interacting with the world differently. So, yeah. And then there's other nutrition, your world, huge sleep.
There's all kinds of same types of commitment. I mean, it's just making that same commitment and just commit to something. And and then you get to go through an experience. And then upon the experience, you can use that information to make subtle changes. Two, to better equipped yourself of your own knowledge to then constantly upgrade and upgrade and upgrade what works right for you, but you don't get to do that unless you actually commit. And that's the that's the major difference.
And, you know, trying to fit yourself also in the perfect plan is an impossibility. Nothing is perfect, period. And yet that's perfect. Right? Right. Yeah. So so that's what we have to let go of, myself included, like a blown off doing this podcast forever because I wanted everything perfect. I wanted another camera over here. So I get this angle on that thing and I, I actually wanted to do it in my main house, but now that's going to take another year.
And then but I want to you know, it's like we have constant well I must start on January 1st and. Well, I mean there is a party a my you know, I had my son had a thing and so therefore I have to wait till the 5th and then at blah blah, blah, blah, you know, but.
We always make room yet for the things that we truly make room for. Yeah, isn't that amazing? Yeah, I don't have time, et cetera, but we really something is really important. It's done really like it's there.
I mean, how exciting is that? If we go back to the miracle of the body and you just make a commitment instead of being a pinball, getting bounced around in this life, you make a commitment, you follow that commitment, you move, you eat better 30 days. You're absolutely standing on a different mountaintop. Looking at perspective is we can we can both sit here and guarantee that that will happen. Yes. And from that perspective. You're going to feel better, you're going to move better, you're going to interact with life, better life is you're going to receive talk about subtle energies.
You'll receive stuff that you had no idea is going to show up in your life because you're honoring yourself, you're honoring you.
And that in among itself is showing us the subtle quantum interactive existence. Yeah. That gets to blow us away when we make a commitment. Yeah.
So I have a six month old son. And what about someone that loves movement as much as I do and just life like it's amazing. I don't know if everyone understand there's such a direct relationship between movement and our health and our brain, our actual neural connections, the actual size of our brain is directly linked to our movement. The first year of life, our our body is preprogram. If you have a healthy brain within months or there's milestones of rolling, of crawlin, of sitting, of no one tells you how to do this stuff.
It's like it's innate in our in our DNA and our programming and our central nervous system. It's it's very much tied from us as babies to to as to whatever age you're listening to this. That movement is it's critical to your health.
And I see him. He wants to move so bad. He's six months late and he's like in swimming. He hasn't quite figured out the cross cross pattern. He's rolling one way, like he's like he's like trying to toxo.
And just this morning, I wake up and my wife fed him and had him in the bed for, like, it's like 6:00 a.m. and I turn and he's like, I feel like this hit on my arm.
And like, I look and he's just like, huge smile.
And when I open my eyes and his dad, dad, dad, that was like, what? How?
And I was like, this is amazing. It's amazing that it just clicks. And I just think it's so amazing. Like he's constantly just trying to figure out who it's like it's like this exploration of who am I in this world. How do how do I how do I get from how do I grab this toy, get over here. Who are you? So this movement I think really does it helps us define who are we in this world? Who am I?
How can I move from A to B B? How can what can I hold. What can I afast fast.
Can I move how there's it's so tied to our health like and each time you get somewhere it's new information to continue to add to your library to. Right. It's so obvious as as a little child and and one could argue that it's more effort.
To not move because it goes against the whole universe of how we're put together. Exactly. You know, yeah.
And maybe I just had this thought because because, you know, it takes what is it takes more energy for the cells and the actin and myosin, the contraction of the muscle to stay relaxed, because as soon as we die, it stiffens up. And it just, you know, it's a full physiology thing. But and then I think of like the immune system to the lymphatic system, creating our immune cells to get the lymphatic has to be moved and we have to breathe and we have to move in order for that to be active, in order for it to cycle, in order for the white blood cells to be circulating.
And like the whole fucking thing requires movement, requires movement. Yeah. And yet we're fighting our ass off or we're making excuses, but literally walking. Just just walk out your door. Don't make it a big deal. Make a commitment every day and walk around the fucking block.
There it is. That's it. Walk the block. Walk it again. But then again and again. Exactly. Day 10. Day 20, day 30. Already your body's going to start pulling you to move more. You're going to want to explore like it's it's like you're going to ignite this this playful explorative side of our nature through the movement. It's just going to come out of you like and you desire it.
It starts to happen like you have to like for me, when I have my program in the morning and I do my thing and I do my nice meditation and my stretching and all that stuff and all of a sudden think the switch will go on, I'm like, holy shit, I got to move.
Like, I cannot not move. Yeah, I don't feel good. Yeah. Like literally. And it's like it also energy begets energy at that point if you want to stay tired. Then don't move. Like, if you want to not have much at all in your life and not have energy to go kick some ass, then definitely don't move.
And if you don't want to feel good, don't move.
And if you don't if you like the pain that you're in. Don't move. Yeah. Exercise is one of the biggest antiinflammatory period, right? I'm not sure everyone understands that either. So, yeah, load load the body. Move it. And like I said, the most amazing pill. Yeah, right. Yeah.
So this is just fun and something that I like, like because I've worked on bodies before and it's really fun when you work on like athletes and stuff because it's just their tissue is different and they're active participants. And I'm like, tell me, like, how fun is it to work on some of the best running backs in the NFL and all these people?
And like, I guess the when you get to work on somebody that really wants their body to work well and their condition, like they talk to me about the experience, I definitely have been lucky in love working with high level people like high functioning, like top top of their craft, what they do, whether it's entertainment or business or athletics. But the athlete in particular, I guess I've been around it so much. So it seems normal, but it's not normal for like the the body is number one for a professional athlete.
So like this this idea, this conversation we just had about movement, it's not even on the radar. Right. Like it's up it is vital to be to move, to be strong, to be physically fit, depending on the sport and the demands of that sport, the specific parameters demands. So, yeah, it's a very, very, very focused training to optimize what I'm going to do on the field on this court to be my best every day.
And recovery is a huge part of that so that you can do it again and train harder or train again or consistent. So naturally, I have a big part I've landed. Is recovery right? Staying healthy. I've worked with a lot of veteran athletes that understand ability to help the body, the body I, I believe the body heals itself. It's a it's like definitely like an innate intelligence in our body to be healthy, to heal, but we can get in the way.
And so that's how can I help bring awareness to areas that are maybe getting in the way or tissue that's tightening constricted to be more open to allow. Yeah. Free movement free so that the body can contract and let go. I can you know what I mean.
Example of that. You we don't need to know that you can if you want, but we don't need to name names. But there was this NFL running back that I think sprained his ankle really bad and it was really swollen in order for it to heal. He got rid of the swelling. You had a special technique to that and you were kind of amazed at the response to tell us about that. And that's a perfect example of what you're talking about.
Yeah, there's all kinds of modalities in my world to study, to learn to manual techniques with your hands. Soft tissue work, manipulation of joints or chiropractors would say adjustment of joints or which is funny, too, because there's all the terminology in this. There's such a cross between professions in my world as a physical therapist or my brothers or chiropractors or in osteopath or or even Christian or we all cross over. Right. So I think it's important to to just it's all about helping the athlete.
The person that's I think the titles are not so important is just trying to help someone. But then Dr. Moore, the guy I studied with supersmart, forty plus year PhD neuroscience from China, acupuncturists. Then there's this techniques around joints, certain techniques that you can do. So there was something I learned from him for swollen joints. And it's really amazing because it's like. Yeah, like night and day, like it's gone. You know what I mean?
There's that, but that's. Yeah, I guess that's the body's ability to heal, is there. So if you can push the right button. All right. Right. And then that's fine. It's for. It's like it's like figuring out the bodies, you know, as a programmer who's in computers, you figure out, OK, if I know nothing about programming, but if you type in these characters, then you're going to get the computer to do X, Y and Z.
Yeah, and it's like the same thing with the body, like you can look at while this this joint's being anteriorly rotated. So what's what's concentric and pulling down on that humerus and all that stuff. But what you're saying is there's this whole other side of the convergence of energies and stuff. And you can use in this case, you can use that ability to flush out that because flush out that swelling because we're still in that world of, like your ankle sprain, it swells up.
Everyone knows you got to get the swelling down for healing because if it stays that way, it's going to be actually more detrimental. And why is it swell up? Well, it's bracing itself so it doesn't damage itself anymore. But we still throw freakiness on it. Right. And so what would you do, like for for a normal sprain of something like what can you tell people to like? How would you go about like is there a general way of of imparting any of that like say let's call simple.
Simple. What if someone spread their sprained ankle? What's what's kind of like the first thing that people should do. If it's if it's not torn or broken or, yeah, like sprained or strained muscles in general, so there's injury, inflammation, swelling is that it's natural for the body. It's part of how it repairs. Right. It's how we increase blood flow. We send the macrophages, the appropriate platelets to heal, heal the tissue, the appropriate like biochemical signalling to start the repair process.
Then it should start to clear out the waste like you're talking about. So swelling remains. That's not a good thing. Joints don't like to be swollen. It limits the normal movement. So tissue that's been injured immediately, I think it's it's a it's a blessing to what degree? The injury is what degree the tearing is. We grade on one to three complete tear versus just a little tear and then respecting the physical, the physiology of the body, a low grade strain or you still have to give the body its to do its thing.
It's still going to take a couple of weeks. Right. It takes time for the body to repair. Yet you could be pretty functional, maybe much quicker than those couple of weeks. But understand that the body is still healing. So I think to respect your physiology and then support often add in some support to an injured tissue. Right. Because it doesn't have all its strength. It has pain inhibiting it. Swelling can inhibit the contraction of the muscle.
It is injured. There is this process of laying down new college and connective tissue collagen, which is the main substance for connective tissue for Fascher, that specifically lies down in relation to the force and direction of force applied to it. So that's why loading and being and being mindful of the low, the amount of low, the directional load, that's how you talk to the body cells. Cells respond to that to lay down, to direct the collagen fibers, the growth, the repair of the ligament or the strain.
So that's where I think like a skilled physical therapist or or someone working with the body can really assist because that can be very, very specific on with my hands, with on the the amount of force or direction of how I'm working with the tissue to to signal the body, understanding how it works from the cellular level to I guess like assisted in and not just starting up, you know what I mean.
Or assisted to the best of its ability to reconstruct itself. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know, it's kind of so general like the body's capacity to here.
I think the body's capacity to heal is great. But you want to respect that process. So to understand it, to respect it, to support injured tissue. But then and also there's an appropriate amount of support and movement movement is crucial, like we said, for our healthy health. But movement and force is it's the language of cells of connective collagen, connective tissue. So it's how yeah.
It's how it repairs, which is different than from the past. Right. So it's like you get an injury and they completely immobilize it for a long period of time.
You know, you have my father had an ACL reconstruction and they put him in a cast for like two months, like, yeah, it's like with no movement and then you coming out going, what the hell?
You have no muscle function. You have to walk re walk again. Like, so now what is that you you want to consciously move a lot sooner than what they used to subscribe to.
Right. Exactly. And that's all it is all relative. But yeah, you want to move but the amount of stuff like you get injured and then you're back running around necessarily, but you want to create, you want to have motion move the tissue because that is how it heals, which is weird.
You know, when we run up and do the pool stuff, which is so many people. And Joakim Noah for you, you know, coming back from an Achilles injury, he's still, you know, playing in the NBA. Great place to do movement without the full impact, you know, getting some suspension in the water and things like that. So those are healthy ways of moving without going too far, too quick. And that's probably a. A lot of what you see, too, and, yeah, I think, you know, because it's a money and the NBA and the NFL especially is just so much money behind it, they want their players back on the field as soon as possible.
And I would imagine you don't get a lot of respect of the tissue and some of those situations.
Yeah. In that different athletes like so an NFL athlete compared to like a tennis athlete to have worked a lot of years with the professional tennis where it's a. I feel like they are very hyper aware of this is this is kind of general, too, but individuals or very like intune, almost like micro and in tune with the body, the tissue and every aspect is different. But football, the the my point is the difference is the football is so violent, it's just collision collision so that the armoring the bodies, you see football players, a lot of muscle, really strong explosive, but they're built for years to be able to withstand the hits, the the just the demands of that sport.
Right. So they don't even register some of the stuff, the injuries, pain.
It's just it's definitely all relative because you could start working. I remember one athlete I worked with and he he had a previous ACL and knee injury and veteran. And so his knee was something we always focused on, just making sure the motion was good. So that was kind of a focal point. But it's like if I come in from off the road, I come in and it's like anything to be aware of or, you know, other than everything's good.
And then you start working and checking out the body and it's like, oh, this ribs bruised, my fingers broken. Like there's things like broken bones, right? Like tissue damage all over that doesn't even literally doesn't register as a problem. Right.
So that's that's kind of interesting and a little bit different threshold. So. So now what what's what's your what's your goals. What are you doing. What's your future looking like. Good question. Yeah, because I cry so much, my nature is like I think just more on the inside, like that leavening presence. I know I have a son that I'm so excited to. I have this this feeling of learning from him and like this of watching how he sees the world.
But also I feel this energy to teach as well, to pass on like I want to teach him things I feel are important values and I want to share how I look at the world with him. So I'm excited about that. Just that opportunity work. I love what I do. I think I don't have a specific goal and I want to be here or this or this podcast is really fun. I was telling you for me, the world with, like social media has changed so much in ten years, five years like.
So to have a natural way to put information out there because I'm so private, I value the clients. I work with privacy so much. So I don't really speak about them, you know what I mean? I feel it, especially some super famous clients, because they they don't have any privacy. You know, it's such a valued thing. So and I've always been I always consider like I'm coming in to the situation to help. And it's not about me.
It's about this person and this person reaching their goal, their optimal performance, etc.. So sitting down and talking like this is something I've like conversations, trying to get better, talk to other peers. Different is something natural, right? Like traveling the world. I'm always doing so like five years ago I bought a domain optimal performance guide to thinking of having like a podcast could be a natural way for me maybe to just. Share my voice, my thoughts of how I see the the body, the world, etc.
, and that's something I could put up on something like Instagram, you know, something like that. Or then because I think you put in your voice out there, then allows other people to find you, because I, like, spend a lot of time read so many books and studying and but someone has to at some point do the talking and share their thoughts and how they see the world. So I think my body has has been like this this natural like I think this like learn and teach the complication, you know, so I'm planning to launch that.
So hopefully people can. Find me on there for us to hear more of my voice. Yeah, that's awesome. And you have a lot to share. And I think just just giving yourself the the license to let something that's super private now I think is a natural progression. You know, it's like you spent a lifetime learning and applying, which is extremely valuable, just different than just researching and sitting in the lab. Right.
And getting your Ph.D. is another thing of actually learning that other those other skills that your father laid down and then taking that and articulating that so other normal people can reap the benefits from that, but also other practitioners, because, again, you're not normal, like you're not you're not average and you're certainly not normal in the space. Your ability to step back and step in, I think is is such a gift and then have that those algorithms of your library, the kind of things that we've discovered even in this conversation, I think is a is starting to unpack a little bit of how you see healing.
Which is a great value. Thank you so thanks, brother. Thank you. Now, we've reached a part of the show where we address society's fatal conveniences and how we can avoid falling into them and being a victim of them. I define fatal conveniences as the things we may be doing because the world we live in makes us believe we have to. And even though they may be serious time or tricking us into thinking they're good for us, the truth is they're not the fact they could be slowly harming us and even killing us.
OK, everybody, we have hit that part of the episode where we're going to talk about something uncomfortable already to uncomfortable, just kidding. This is about getting awareness because if you don't have an awareness, you don't have power. And then whatever that awareness is, is affecting your body. It's affecting the stress of your body. It's affecting you in every way, because if you're compromised and don't know it, then you are a victim of it. So that is why I am so passionate about these fatal conveniences.
Now, the one I'm going to talk about is the most obvious fatal convenience of them all. It was when I was first introduced to this fatal convenience 20 years ago, cell phones, radio frequencies, non-ionizing frequency that is emitting frequency, bouncing back between cell towers and your phone 24/7 all the time, especially if you leave it on. So I know that all of you have a cell phone. I'm not saying don't use it. I have a cell phone.
But there's certain things that you can do to mitigate and take down some of the stressors that that's having on you. Now, this is a massive, massive topic, but I just want to create a little context here. So if you look at the research, you'll see that the CDC, you'll see that the FDA, you'll see that all of these organizations have done tests on them and it's generally OK. But when you really look, they all say it looks to appear that there is a carcinogenic effect and a tumor promoting effect.
So without drilling down into all of the research yet, we just have to realize that this frequency that is being emitted that's bouncing back and forth, that is all around us is in fact causing your body stress. It's causing your body stress. Now, if you still are someone that's putting up cell phones to your head.
Then that's might that might be something you want to reconsider, because that is just a dangerous situation. Obviously, we're not talking about x rays or gamma rays. We're talking about this this energy that's between the frequency. That's between like an FM radio and microwaves. Right.
So the RF frequency, like I said, is non ionizing radiation. They don't it doesn't have enough direct energy to cause cancer, but it is the long term effect. That is why things that we do on a consistent basis create health or they destroy it. And so by using our cell phone, keeping it close to our body is causing serious DNA inside the cell, outside the cell effect on the body. So this is what I want to drill down on.
So how are people exposed? Well, they're certainly holding these cell phones in their hands. So your your body's always receiving you're putting them up to the cell. The strongest, obviously, is when you're putting it very close to the body. So here's the weird thing. If you look at the manuals or the fine print of all of these cell phone manufacturers, the loophole, the dupe is that you're not supposed to have these cell phones on your body.
You're not supposed to put it up to your head. What they are literally telling you, don't keep the cell phone on your body and don't put it up to your head, what? Come on, that's crazy. And who's going to know that? Here's the ways that this affects you, and then I'm going to highlight some research that proves some of this stressor. But here's here's some of the factors. The amount of time that you're on a phone, the amount of time it's up to your head, the amount of time that you're holding it while it's on and it's not on airport mode, all of that stuff.
Those are the things. And then, you know, it's also where you are in relation. If you don't have a signal and you have like one bar or your or your cell phones looking for it, that means the radiation, the radio frequency is at its peak because it's working very hard to find a signal. So when you don't have a signal, just realize that your cell phone is putting out a lot of frequency because it's looking for that that cell phone tower.
So that's the danger. Right. And there's this way that they measure the absorption rate when the cell phone's at its operating procedure.
And that is supposed to be looked after by the FCC. And we know now that with amps and other fatal conveniences, the FCC has well over 20. The research around electromagnetic fields for the FCC is 20 years old. They're so far off in their recommendations. That's why, you know, the US Federal Communications Commission, the FCC is so far off and their regulations, you can't even trust these people. So there's this thing called Sarr, which is the specific absorption rate.
That's what they are supposed to measure this on. But again, they're coming from old science and they're saying it's safe and it's fine. And we're within the guidelines and it's just misleading because their research is is off and it's not accurate. And oftentimes these cell phones are exponentially putting out frequencies far greater than what they have stated. So so here's where it gets just gnarly. OK, so it has been shown that when you're putting a cell phone up to the head, it increases the malignant cancerous brain tumors.
And that has also been shown in animals as well. And then there's non-cancerous tumors that is essentially disrupting the frequency, is disrupting the DNA and specifically the RNA signalling, telling the cells what to do and that's increasing tumors. So it's increasing cancerous tumors and it's also increasing what's called meningioma, cancerous non-cancerous tumors. So non-cancerous tumors are very susceptible within the brain and the ear because they're they're highly nerve connecting. And it's this interesting tumor called Cherno Mass, which is a very related to acoustic neuromas, degeneration or misalignment within the signaling.
It's crazy. And then, of course, tumors have been shown to show up in salivary glands as well. But but here's the thing. They don't the FDA, the FCC, they're all like and they blow this off. But then when you really look at the at the research, this is absolutely showing up in the lab and in human studies as causing cancers. And the RF frequencies are the culprit of it. So some more research. The Center of Disease Control, which is also an agency, I don't trust all that.
Well, they say even though it shows up in all the animal studies over a long term exposure, it shows up in human studies as malignancies and cancers. They say this is, quote unquote, the unresolved cancer question. It's like, are you kidding me? In 2014? And then CDC removed that statement from the website because of the backlash, because that's misleading and even the political pressure. Right. So currently now the CDC says that more research is needed on the topic since there is no scientific evidence that proves a definitive answer.
Are you fucking crazy? Sorry for kids that are listening. Sorry. I mean, no definitive. This is causing literally causing tumors. And so now you look at twenty seven, twenty twelve scientists published two different reviews of cell phones and brain tumors and concluded that studies of individuals using cell phones for more than 10 years give a consistent pattern of increased risk of acoustic neuronal coma and glioma with the risk of being highest for a tumor on the same side of your head that the phone is being used.
This is published data. Are you kidding me? And animal studies in two thousand fifteen in Germany also identified a connection between the cell phone radiation and tumor growth in mice. And then you go back to what these damn people at the CDC say, and there's like there's no scientific evidence that provides a definitive answer. That's bullshit. My point to this is you can do some things. You can put a safe sleeve. I get no payment from safe sleeve dotcom and you can put a block it blocks on the it's a cover that goes over your cell phone and it blocks the radiation.
You can turn it on airport mode when that ever it is on your body and your person and never under any circumstances put that damn cell phone up to your head, you know, find a place where you can go and take, you know, put it on conference call without putting up your head wear, at least wear a headset and not the Bluetooth. Please don't wear Bluetooth because that is just a lighter version of the same EMF frequency that the Wi-Fi router is.
So you're putting that in your ears and getting a signal constantly. So use a connected earphone and keep the phone away from you while you're on it. So then you can use safely sleeve. You can use this other stuff. And there's also other technologies and I mentioned some in the MF Fatal Convenience that you can use to help block and create safety in your body. OK, so there is well over one hundred studies and I've only touched on a couple of them that have proven salivary glands, tumors, dizziness and migraines, less sleep, poor quality changes in production of specific proteins in the human cell, specifically around the head and nerve system decreased sperm count.
That means your sperm count goes south, skin irritation, behavioral problems, not to mention all of the malignant, cancerous and non-cancerous studies that have been proven that in research to that cell phones are our problem. So you can do a lot of things, make calls, don't yuzo make calls on a hard line. If you can limit the length of your calls, don't put it up to your head. Use the hands free devices and try to not keep the phone on you, on your body without it being on airport mode or off.
You don't want to do that. Especially I see women next to their breasts or people lay their phone literally on their crotch. Like it just drives me crazy. I take friends phones and I throw them off their lap when I see that. So text message instead of calling, use a voice message instead of calling them. But you just need to be aware because the bottom line is you do not have the protection of these government agencies. I'm sorry, but they don't.
This is about taking responsibility for yourself in your life. OK, so that's a little bit on cell phones, one of the major things. But just be aware of these simple things you can do because that's if you're not doing, it's contributing to your stress when you are doing it, it's lowering your stress overall. And believe me, in this crazy world right now, we need to lower our stress on a lot of different ways. I love you all, and I don't mean to blast you with stuff that you don't want to think about.
But you know what I want for you? I want you to kick ass. I want you to be great. And I don't want you to be drug around by these these crazy devices and be be affected by this. But I promise you, you're electromagnetic field of your body. The electricity that runs through every cell of your body is affected by these non biologically assimilative frequencies that stress your body out. So that's it for the fatal convenience. This is a big one.
I love you all and see you next time.
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