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Dentistry is doing the most harm out of any medical professional site. Here you go, opioids. What is.


Biologic dentistry? Because it absolutely blew my mind. Each tooth is alive.


It's a living organ. Any disease in the mouth can correlate to the rest of the body. We're taking a look at the whole body, not just the oral cavity. We can help people live a lot longer. How quickly can we help a patient heal? We're getting them off of meds. That's a passion of mine. If you're having symptoms, question it. Ultimate human.


Hey, guys. Welcome back to the ultimate human podcast. I'm your host, human biologist, Gary Breca. I'm here today in Long Island, New York with Dr. Jigur Gandhi, a very close friend of mine and an amazing biologic dentist out of the Stony Brook Dental School of Medicine. I came all the way up here to Long Island today with my wife, Sage, because the topic we're going to discuss today, I don't want to sound dramatic, but may very well change your life, and it could, in fact, save your life. There are so many people right now that are unaware of the link between periodontal disease, inflammation, gum disease, bacteria in the gum, parasites in the gum, dental work, and all kinds of ailments like cardiovascular disease and neurodegenerative disorders and all kinds of symptomology that you may be suffering from that you're chalking up to a consequence of aging that is not a consequence of aging at all. It's a consequence of pathologies that may be going on inside your mouth. I'm not just talking about oral hygiene, brossing, flushing, tongue scraping, those sorts of things. I am actually talking about old root canals and dental work that you've had done that may actually be contributing to disease, to pathology, to cardiovascular condition, to neurodegenerative disorders, to all kinds of things going on in your life or the life of a loved one.


So you're going to want to tune in today because we're going to take a deep dive into everything that is linked between your oral hygiene and your oral health and the health and longevity of the bio. I really want to welcome Dr. Jigur Gandhi to the podcast today. A close friend of mine, he's actually done some dental work on me, and I'm really excited to be here today and take a deep dive into biologic dentistry.


Thank you, man. Pleasure to be here. Yeah.


So tell me, Dr. Gandhi, everybody knows what a dentist is. Correct. But give me a little background on what is a biologic dentistry and what is the difference between that and standard dental practice and how did you get started down the road of being a.


Biological dentist? Yeah. So when you practice biological dentistry, you're taking a whole systemic approach. You're taking a look at the whole body, not just the oral cavity. We're trained to look at the oral cavity day in, day out. That's our training. But when patients are coming with diseases, we need to work hand in hand with a medical doctor, physician, whoever it is, to figure out what actually is going on. Andand there's a lot of linkage, and it's all in the literature now that any disease in the mouth can correlate to the rest of.


The body. Well, I was actually just reading a study the other day that they're finding the exact same bacteria in gums, in the jawbone, and in poorly executed dental work that they find in cardiovascular disease. The same bacteria is actually found in the heart that's in.


The mouth. 100%. Yeah. You hit it right on the money there where it's one blood supply, right? The blood supply that's in your bone, in your jawbone, each tooth is alive. It's a living organ: nerve, artery, and a vein, and lymphatic system, right? When you have 32 of them, and if something's going bad, that blood is going to transfer to the rest of your body, all 60,000 miles of blood supply. Right. Right.


So it's going around. I always found it fascinating that dental medicine and dental physicians are the only area of medicine that I'm aware of, the only practice of medicine that thinks that it's okay to leave dead tissue in the body.


Correct. That's a big problem. When you leave something dead, like anywhere if your toe had gangrene on it, so when you're leaving something dead, it turns gangrene, right? Right. If it was your toe, what are you going to do? Chop it off. Your finger, chop it off. Elbow, chop it off. Pendicitis. Chop it off. Take it out. Remove it. Or liver, part of the liver, they cut it out. But yet we're leaving all this stuff in the jawbone. We have to differentiate between pain and pathogens. Yes, we get rid of the pain, the acute symptoms, but what happens in a chronic state now? We just got a pool of bacteria, pathogens, fungus, parasites that are pooling in the jawbone now. Right.


I've been on this journey with you. Correct. I would consider myself fairly woke to wellness. Yes, you are. I'm very in tune with my body. I try to watch what I eat, I try to watch what I drink. I do all kinds of biohacking tricks. I use red light therapy, PEMF, sun exposure, breath work, cold plunging.


Which I appreciate you doing that because that's actually got me on one of my journeys, too. Did it? Yeah. We met in 2018, and that's what got me on my journey. I started using everything that you're doing, and then wanted to seek out something else and more and more.


But what was fascinating to me was my lack of correlation between symptoms I was having and what was going on in my oral cavity. To be very specific, I remember calling you and telling you that I had a cracked tooth. Then I'd just been putting it off and putting it off and putting it off because for those of you guys that are listening that do not like to have dental work, nobody dislikes dental work more than I do. I think I have a childhood... I have a fear of it. I don't have any fear of surgeries or of IVs or giving myself injections or anything like that. But I have an absolute phobia of the dentist. I had this crack and I just let it go and let it go. I actually started to notice that the tooth was beginning to change color. I called Dr. Gandhi and I was like, Listen, man, I've got this crack tooth. I don't want to get it removed. I really want you to tell me that it's fine. But it's starting to change color. He's like, You got to get up to see me and you got to take it out.


He said, What tooth was it? I explained the location of this tooth in my mouth, and I'll never forget you sent me this chart, and it was a Meridian chart. I'm going to put this up on the podcast or put a link to it on the podcast because I think it's really important for those of you that have had dental work done that you look at this chart because it absolutely blew my mind because I looked at the tooth that, in my case, was infected. It was tooth number 19. Correct. And as soon as I told you the location of the tooth, you asked me three questions, and I stopped dead in my tracks when you said this to me because I had this Eureka moment, like a Perry Mason movie. You said, Do you ever get left shoulder pain? And I was like, Well, you know what? As a matter of fact, I do. I get my left shoulder aches when I'm working out, but I always just thought that it was just a little bit of overuse. And he said, Do you ever get left lower low pain in your lung? And I started thinking about it.


I said, You know, as a matter of fact, when I actually do my sprints on the treadmill, I do that hyper max sprint on the treadmill, I get this catch in the lower side of my diaphragm, and I thought it was just a runner's cramp. And then you asked me if my toe ever itched or went numb. And I was like, That is the craziest question.


A dentist can ask you? Yeah, the dentist.


Can ask me. But I was like, As a matter of fact, I have this weird thing where my left toe will sometimes go numb, and I would tap my foot on the ground. Once in a while, I would actually take my shoe off, and I would itch my toe.


It was the weirdest thing.


You had no idea what was going on at.


The time. I would literally take my shoe off and I would itch the bottom of my big toe and I put my shoe back on. I had all three of these things, and then you sent me the chart and I looked at molar number 19, and it went, boom, left shoulder pain, left lower lobe pain, left toe pain. I'm not saying that the people listening are experiencing that, but if you're having any the strained symptomology and you look at the meridian for the tooth that correlates to it, very often it explains it.


Correct. When you send me the photo, because I asked you to send me a photo, and you sent me a photo, you had no swelling inside your mouth that you can visibly see. Or pain. Or pain. No ear pain, because usually lower left molar is going to give you ear pain, because that's where the nerve, the inferior alveola nerve radiates behind you. It innervates goes right behind your ear. You would have felt it there, and you would have felt when you lay down, you get back up, the hydraulic pressure. You would have said, This is aching. Then you would have been like, Okay, let me do something. But you were in a chronic state. Even though you're super healthy, super fit, and everything, but this was throwing you off. It was putting you into too much of a sympathetic overdrive. Right.


How long did you notice that for?


I had dealt with it for months. I don't remember the exact onset of it because it was just nagging. It wasn't enough for me to say, I've got to go get this checked out. That's what happens to most people, we just deal with it. Again, as woke as I am to wellness and in tune with my body and trying to take the best care of myself, I never correlated those things ever to something.


Going on at my job. Why don't more dentists correlate things? I'd never heard of, well, I guess I'd heard of Meridians, but that blew us both away. But the tooth, Meridians. Yeah, the toothpaste just.


Blew me away. Education, right? You graduate down in school, you graduated in 2009, did an intense residency for two years. It was just hardcore training day after day. But then you're tired. You go to some CE credits just on subjects. Are you really going to study? Or you have some dentists who are curious and want to know why there's disease. Why is people's health getting worse? I've done tens of thousands of surgeries, and seeing patients like, Why are the patients sick? You start questioning it, and you start questioning what you actually did on patients. You're Wait, what was I doing? Then you seek out the world's best doctors and knowledgeable in this, and it's stuff that's been out there. The literature is out there. The science is out there. But it's, do you believe in it? Do you want to take that step and actually go that road? It's very hard to talk to all the dentists and all the colleagues like, Hey, there's something else out there. We can actually be causing harm. It's like, do no harm is our first, the Hippocratic Oath, right? There's do no harm. But it's actually when you look at it, dentistry is doing the most harm out of any medical profession out there.


Leaving dead tissue in the body. Yeah. I mean, you just got to wrap your arms around that. There's actually dead tissue in the body, and it doesn't have a blood supply. What do bacteria like? They like dark, moist, oxygen-deprived places.


Anaerobic bacteria. That's it.


That the immune system can't get to. I want to talk specifically about a study that was just published in July of 2023. This is only about three months old. It was published in the Journal of Microorganisms. But it was a longitudinal study that investigated the association between periodontal disease and neuroinflammatory disorders. And neuroinflammatory disorders are Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, dementia, all kinds of conditions in the body that are related to inflammation that eventually begins to affect nerves. Yes. And we don't correlate dental hygiene or dental pathologies to Parkinson's to early onset Alzheimer's or dementia. And even before these conditions exist, memory and cognitive decline, exhaustion, fatigue, weight gain, water retention. And what I found really fascinating was that out of the 24 studies they examined, 20 of them showed a positive correlation between periodontal disease and neurodegenerative disorders with the studies focusing on cognitive function, demonstrating the most robust effect. Yes. So these are all the things that are robbing people of their short-term recall, their cognitive function, their waking energy, that they may be chalking up to a consequence of aging, that may actually be a consequence of something going on in their jaw from dental work that they've had done that they've left unaddressed.


Correct. One of those bacteria there, the trepanema denticoli, is.


Proven- Yes, the trepanema denticoli.


Yeah, that's. Sorry, David. It's one of the five bacteria. Let's just keep it simple. One of the five bacteria that's known for beta-amyloid, producing beta-amyloid, which we know is for Alzheimer's. Right. When it all starts here, if we can actually control it, and it sometimes goes more in-depth than doing a regular cleaning. Sometimes we use lasers, sometimes we use ozone gas. Sometimes we'll put some medication in the pockets, what we call the periodontal pockets. But if we can cure that, doesn't mean every tooth needs to come out. But if we can hold on to the teeth and we have ways much better than ever before, much better than when I graduated dental school. You were saying to keep your teeth? Keep the teeth, yeah. I graduated in 2009. Stuff then was archaic. But the thing is a lot of dental- You just pulled everything out. You pulled everything out or you did these extensive surgeries, but you weren't annihilating that bacteria. Now we have lasers that go into the socket and it's minimally invasive, pain-free. Patients can go back to work the same day or the next day, and technology has progressed so much, and that's a big thing.


If we keep on with this technology, we can help people live a lot longer.


Yeah. If someone already has Alzheimer's or dementia, do you think that that could be something that could.


Start to reverse? I would 100 % get a 3D cone beam scan, 3D dental can or a scan, or we call it CBCT scan, and to see what dental work they had done. Got you. Right. Absolutely, 100 %.


Because as that dental work ages, this doesn't spontaneously go away. Correct. And this is one of the things that I'll put some of the images up for this podcast for those of you that are actually not just listening, but you're on one of the platforms like Spotify, where you can actually see some images. It's pretty gnarly, but it's such an important topic to me because I had such a life-changing experience with it. My 48 hours after you got that tooth out and you cleaned it, and I want to talk about the procedure that we had done because you didn't just pull the tooth. You actually put red light laser down into the socket. You put ozone gas into the socket. You cleaned out the bone, and then you drew my own blood, spun it down, and created something called platelet-rich fibrin. Yes. And you actually packed my jaw, that socket, that hole that you made with my own platelets. Yes. Which a lot of people that are listening to us have heard of platelet-rich plasma or PRP injections. They use them in repetitive use injuries, knees, hips, shoulders, rotator cuff. They actually use it in cosmetic procedures to enhance the vitality of the skin, taking your own blood, spinning it down, isolating the platelets, putting it back in your face.


But I'd never actually heard of it being used and turned into platelet-rich fiber for dental work. What I did was I documented the entire thing. I'm going to show the entire surgical procedure. Today, going to be putting a post in.


My jaw. A ceramic post?


A ceramic post, not a metal post. I actually had all the metal fillings taken out years ago, and I think a lot of people have caught on to that trend of getting the metal out of your mouth.


Is anyone still putting metal in?


There are some. The European Union actually banned it. Did they? Yeah. The US is still a little bit behind. The US is still a little bit behind, but I think hopefully we progress to that.


Like GMO foods. There's so many studies that show how horrible it is, and that's why everybody's getting them.


Out right now. Correct. There's study after study showing it. Why would someone still- You know what the other part is? Taking them out is also toxic, right? You have to make sure you're following the right protocols to take them out. Because the particles that the little particles that are going to go up, if there's a little- And you're vaporizing them, right? Vaporizing. You want the patient breathing some oxygen while you're doing it. You want to isolate the tooth. You need extra suction in there. It's a whole different protocol when.


We're cleaning them out. I've seen the setup that you do to take old fillings out. It's pretty wild, and you have an entire plastic apparatus in there or latex apparatus.


But it is, yeah, you're 100 % right. It's a whole apparatus we're using.


Yeah, just to keep them from intulating any of that gas or swallowing.


Any of it. It's for patient safety, staff safety, my safety, too, because we're doing it constantly. I want to protect myself from those fumes because at the end of the day, it is metal toxicity. Whether you want to say it's whatever mercury or not or whatever nickel, palladium, whatever metals are in there, at the end of the day, it's metal toxicity that's going to happen.


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Change the trajectory of your life. And now back to The ultimate human podcast. Okay, so being a biologic dentist, you have more of a passion and your practice is more centered around restoring what was naturally there.


Back to homeostasis. Okay, back to homeostasis.


I will say I've had a lot of dental work done, and I hate having dental worked on. Did I emphasize.


That enough? I think I have a picture of you being nervous. I'm kidding. I didn't take the phone. Was he.


A big baby?


He was nervous, but he was fine. After I got started, he was fine.


Well, because the whole time I was actually watching.


The surgery. He was.


Watching the surgery. Well, and as you explain things to him, he probably understood better and got excited about it because then he nerds out on it.


I've been way down the road now.


He came back like a little kid going, Oh, my God. All these... He was so excited about.


All things you're talking about. 100%. I mean, if we elaborate on the whole procedure on that process, I remember spending 45 minutes. The tooth was out in less than 30 seconds. Your tooth was out. But I spent over 45 minutes cleaning the socket because there's so much scar tissue inside. There's a ligament that we need to clean out. We need to help to re-energize the area. That's where we're using the laser. At a specific wavelength, we use a laser. That's a red light laser, right? We use a green light laser. It's a erbium laser there. It's a erbium laser. I remember that. The red light laser was at the end to help you heal. I remember.


That one. What does the green do?


The green light? The green, it helps energize the area. We use what we call a piezo machine first that helps clean the bone. The thing is, whenever there's a tooth that's going bad inside, it's just not you just take it out. It's not like taking a flag part of the ground. The problem is the bone has pores in it. It's infiltrated inside those pores. We need to get every single little piece out. Bacteria is microscopic, so you don't see it. Even though we use loops that are high magnification, you're not going to see the bacteria there. We're cleaning everything out as much as possible.


So you use the green laser first?


We use the PAZEL first. Pazel first. Pazel first to clean out the walls. Then we use the laser to re-energize the area. Then I went to the ozone to basically oxygenate the area, kill anything that.


Shouldn't be there. That was wild because I was watching on the screen. You took the tooth out, and ironically, it didn't bleed. I thought, Well, that's a good sign. You said, No, that's a terrible sign that there's no blood.


Flow to that area. Sorry to cut you off there. I use plain anesthetic. There was no epinephrine in the anesthetic. Okay. Because in dentistry, we use one in 100,000 or one in 200,000 epinephrine. That helps constrict the vessels, because the vessels in the mouth are very tiny. They're like the capillaries in your fingers. They're very tiny. But if I use something with epinephrine, it would have not blood at all. I may try to use plain anesthetic when I do a procedure like this for you. Because you wanted to- I wanted to bleed.


You explained that to me. You said, I really want to see that bright red blood flowing out of that area. I actually want to restore the blood flow to that area, because if you don't get blood flow to that area, the immune system can't get there and kill pathogens. You can't get inflammation out. You can't get any inflammatory in.


Is that part of what led to the shoulder issue? Correct.


And the toe?


Yes. I've been way down the nerve pathways and everything. I mean, some of the images of the amount of neuronal innervation from the brain to the jaw is just mind-numbing.


You were actually able to even talk with my sister who had a go-kart accident when we were kids. Yes. Because she was nine years old and didn't know how to drive a go-kart, so she crashed it right.


Straight into a mailbox. I didn't ask her what happened. I was like, Oh, it brings back childhood memories.


I don't know. I drove that thing for years, and I was fine. Never crashed it once. But my sister got in there and just smashed it to smithereens. But the fiber class hit her jaw and she just smashed her jaw. All these came out, and she's had issues with her mouth for years. Correct. We knew that part of it. But the part that she didn't recognize is that then later in life, she started to have major kidney issues. Yes. We don't have kidney problems in my family. It was always like this mystery why she was having such bad kidney problems in college, especially. It was literally the first thing that you brought up to her. She started crying.


About it. Wait, she didn't tell me that portion.


Yeah. No, you blew her mind, I think, because now she has hope that there is a solution here.


That's the thing that you brought up genetics, right? Not everything is genetics. It's our environment. The oral cavity, each tooth has its own individual environment and the whole mouth is an environment, right? That was the biggest thing. It's like, You definitely have issues there. We got it. She sent the X-rays. The X-rays look great. It's like, Okay, you can do conventional dentistry there, but is that going to solve everything else for her? No, then she'll 10, 15 years later. She probably needs dialysis and you go down that path. It's like, how long can we keep the human body without artificial joints or medicine?


That's the whole purpose. What was amazing was that he brought it up to her. Yeah, exactly.


She did not, again, did not tell me anything about that.


She didn't tell me.


Anything of that. -correlate any of that.


Right. We don't correlate a lot of these things going on in the mouth. That's why I think it's so important. I can't wait to release this podcast, and I can't wait to release the full documentary on the surgery, because I just think it's so important for people to understand that these issues that they or loved ones are facing in their life may actually have a fixed, secure cause that can be remediated.


Let's go back to your symptoms. Those three symptoms. When I was working on you, and we recorded that too, you felt a jolt of energy. I did. Yes. You felt a jolt.


I really did. It was wild. I also remember very specifically when you had the ozone in that socket, it went from pink gums and the exposed.


Dark red.


Bleeding to just all this blood flow started to flood the area. You were like, That's exactly what we were after. I have to say, it was a two out of ten on the pain scale. Good. If you're thinking about having biologic dentistry done, and I would highly recommend that you do, and if you have any of the symptoms that we talk about on the podcast today, find a biologic dentist in your area. You can probably google.


Biologic dentist.


Yes, absolutely. Find a biologic dentist in your area that can do this work because it very well could reverse or completely alter these symptoms and literally might even save your life.


What made you get into this form of dentistry?


It's around when I met you guys, too.


Carol- Then we can take full credit for it.


100%. Yeah, absolutely.


He's giving us 15% of the. There we go.


Okay, we'll appreciate that. Carol did some dental work on it before. She had metal fillings. They turned into root canals, did those root canals back when in 2014, 2013, 2012, and 2013, those years. I never experienced a migraine in my life, so I'm blessed on that portion. But she would experience migraines and migraines would be.


Debilitating- After the dental work.


Yeah. Well, I didn't correlate at that time. Right. She would just experience migraines. We've been together since 2011. In 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, she had these migraines, insane migraines. Wow. I was like, Okay. She's like, There has to be something related. I had buddies check out the dental work I did. They said everything's fine, because I just question myself. I'm like, Hey. They said the roots are fine, the nerves are fine, everything's good. The two teeth you worked on, teeth are dead, everything's okay. I'm like, Okay, good. Teeth are dead. There we go. She said, But you're taking them out. I'm like, What do you mean? She's like, No, take them out. They said they're fine. She's like, No. I told my buddies, I was like, You're not married to her. I'm taking them out. Took them out, migraine's gone completely. Really? And the protocols have changed since then. Dentistry has gone a long way. I used some of the protocols, but now the ones I use on you are almost 30 steps. Almost close to 30 to 40 steps, literally, I use on you. And migraines went away. And then she's like, You're not putting metal in my mouth.


I'm like, Okay. I went down that rabbit hole. What else is out there? That's when I started emailing these guys over the world. I'm like, Hey, what are you guys doing that's different? Porcelain, ceramic. -ceramic, yeah. So there's zirconium dioxide that we use. We use a zirconium implant on you. It's non-metals, inert, and it just blends with the gums and the bone so well. It's mind-boggling. I've done tens of thousands of titanium implants. Now going this road and seeing how the patient changes, how the bone reacts, how the gums react, there's no inflammation. Inflammation is every disease. You look at diabetes, it's inflammation. -every disease is inflammation.


-inflammation is the root of all evil.


How can we get rid of inflammation? If we get rid of inflammation and you have a healthy diet, your gut's healthy, the metabolic disorders are gone, there's no reason there should be any illness.




So why aren't more doctors or dentists doing this?




Okay. Where did you find? Where did you get most of your education.


On- Switzerland.


Oh, okay. Yeah.


A lot of it. So you went to Switzerland to get.


This knowledge and brought it back. I went to Switzerland to study, yeah. Okay.


There's another interesting study in the American Heart Association published a study on Rantis. I want you to explain what Rantis is, but being associated with morbidity and mortality and metabolic syndrome. Metabolic syndrome is the leading cause of cardiovascular disease. Cardiovascular disease is the leading cause of mortality. It's the number one killer in the world. And metabolic syndrome is obesity, diabetes, mellitus type two, and hypertension. And now some doctors will say it's also elevated triglycerides and high levels of insulin. But astoundingly, there is a direct correlation between dental bacteria and dental parasites and the onset of metabolic syndrome. And according to the studies, this Rantees was associated with morbidity and mortality and metabolic syndrome. So talk to me a little bit about what that is and how can we fix that.


Sure. So before Rantees started, they call it F. D. O. J, or a cavitation or ischemic bone disease, IBD. So F. D. O. J. Stands for fatty degenerative osteonecrosis of the jawbone or a cavitatione or ischemic bone disease. Now you could subgroup them all three together. But when you look at it, it's basically something that's taken out. If we took out your tooth and we didn't clean the bone properly, you'll basically have a pool of bacteria there.




It's just not bacteria. It's viruses. It's spirokites, parasites, virus, anything you want. It's in that bone that's just accumulating. Right. There's still blood that's going all the way around because you're a living being.


I know we're emphasizing it's not swelling or pain because I have no.


Swelling or pain. That's the thing about cavitations or F. D. O. Js. There is no issue there. There's no swelling. But when you go back in there, it's fatty bone. That's why you call it fatty degeneracian across the jawbone. You're just scooping it out, and it's fat. When I was doing surgery- It's literally soft. It's literally soft. So doing all these implants, it's when I would drill into jawbone, this is before 2018, right? Drill into jawbone, and all of a sudden you see like, oil pop out. Me and my assistant were like, Oh, look, this person probably just eats an oily diet or whatever. You don't know what it is because it's not in the textbooks. There are books out there now. And Dr. Lechner from Germany, he's Dr. Rantis. He talks all about this stuff. He devoted his life to this stuff. And when hes trying to find out why this is in the jawbone, it's not okay to have. It shouldn't be there. If that was in your hand, your elbow, anywhere, they would be scraping that out and repairing it. But why is it allowed in this area? And then all of a sudden we see disease rise.


There has to be something there. Correlation.


Another thing that I found really fascinating, and this is super gnarly, and again, I'm going to show the video on my Instagram. I'm going to put this documentary together as revealing as it is for me to do that. A little warning for people.




Just a little.


Warning for you. May want to close your eyes. It's super gnarly. But when Dr. Gandhi had my tooth out, I saw a little pocket on the bottom of.


The root. Oh, yeah. Yes, yes.


Oh, yeah, that. Wait, what happened? There was like a pocket.


There was a sack. -a balloon. -yeah, at.


The bottom. On the bottom of the root of my tooth.


I don't feel it. I'm like, look, feel it. It was like, spongey.


I go, What is that? I thought it was like spongey. I go, What is that? I thought it was like a little piece of nerve or something, and it looked like a balloon. And he said, That's a pocket of bacteria. I said, No way. And he's like, No, that's a pocket of bacteria and parasites. So he took it. We put it on a slide. He popped it. We put it on the slide.


The things we found fun, right? The dentist is easy. The dentist is easy. This is a fun part.


I was super fascinated by it, and then I got a little nauseous because I was like, Oh, that's my tooth. And so he pops it, he puts it on this slide, and he has a dark field microscope in the back of his office.


Face contrast.


Face contrast. A face contrast microscope in the back of his office. And we go back, we put it on a slide, and I throw it up on the screen, and I could see the parasites and the bacteria. I could even see my white blood cells. My macrophage is going after it like a little Pac-Man, literally chasing them. It's the wildest thing. Up on the screen, you can see the difference between your red blood cells and your white blood cells. Then, of course, there's little spiroquites and bacteria. The white blood cell, the macrophage, was literally slowly engulfing it in real time. I was like, Oh, my God. That was going on inside my jaw.


I've seen you pick your finger.




Look at your blood. Right before you do the superhuman protocol and after you do it. You see how your blood cells are moving out fresh here. Now if you did that anywhere, you just drew some blood, put on a slide and looked underneath the microscope and you saw all that stuff, what would you do? Oh, you'd freak. You freak out, right? Yeah, like I did. But why aren't other people freaking out? That's the thing that we're trying to get across to everybody. This is a problem. This is connected to your brain, your heart, your lungs, everywhere. Think about tooth number 19 we worked on you, right? Yeah. It's only a few centimeters from your brain stem when you think about it.




And that bacteria have a major nerve that goes right behind here. And we know nerves travel both ways. If that bacteria latches onto that nerve, where's it going?


This is going to be awesome. This is where we're going to actually see the bacteria, parasites, and the things that were actually hiding above my jawline that were actually in my bone right up against my sinus and down in my jaw from that tooth that cracked. Then I had a molar that was cracked, too. I had bacteria up underneath my molar right against my sinus. Wow, this is so cool, guys. You can actually see the bacteria and the parasites that were actually down in my jaw. I mean, it's.


Disgusting, but it makes.


Me realize it was a smart idea to do this. I never thought that.


I would have.


This bacteria and parasites actually living beneath my tooth and the socket of my jaw. So this is the.


Way a red blood cell should look. Right there. Yep, and then these are just dying. Wow. What we're looking at here is a blood sample from the socket of the tooth that we took out. So we put underneath the microscope, this face contrast microscope, and we're looking at the cellular debris. What we want to see is healthy red blood cells. But we knew the patient was symptomatic. He had problems with his tooth. You can see macrophages. You can see a lot of cellular debris that shouldn't be there. This is an immune system. He's a very healthy individual. His immune system is actually fighting everything.


So the immune system showed up, and it's starting to attack this stuff. Yeah, but.


How long can it keep attacking and attacking? That's the biggest thing. It's very cool to look at it on an eight-I'm so glad I got.


This done. It should just be healthy, like red.


Blood cells just flowing through. You shouldn't have any of this immune response, especially in your jaw. This is all.


Immune or so on.


Yeah, this should not be there at all. Let's say you came in and the tooth had a crown on it and then it looked the way it did, and you saw that on the X-ray, 99 % of dentists to say that's normal. Really? But how is that normal? Because if that was in your skull, let's say if it was not in your jaw, but if it was up here, your spine or your hip or knee or foot, what would the doctor say? Cancer. There's something there. We need to do a biopsy. But why don't we do that in the mouth? That's the biggest issue. We knew you were symptomatic, so we knew something had to be done on this, too. But if you were asymptomatic and we saw the black area, that's not normal because every time you're chewing, all this stuff is going into your bloodstream, right? It's just cycling through. This should not be there at all.


When you see these darker areas that look like the blood is clumped up, that's because the blood is stacked up. Remember, when we're acidic, red blood cells have a tendency to stick together and they stack up. So when you look at them through the microscope, they appear darker. When they spread out and they get thinner, that's because they have the same charge. They're not attracting anymore, they're repelling. So it creates a lot more surface area. Generally, the more alkaline we are, the more separated our red blood cells are. So the healthier that that system is. So everywhere that they touch, you lose that surface area. So now that cell can't exchange with its outside environment.


And sorry.


Because I have gauze in my mouth and I sound like a chip man because half my tongue.


Is numb.


But when two cells have opposite charges, they attract. Everywhere that they stick together, you lose that surface area. So now the cell can't exchange with its outside environment. It can't eliminate waste, repair, detoxify, regenerate. So it's really cool to see this because you can see areas where the blood is not stacked up and it's nice and thin and panned out. There's a lot of mobility. And then you see other areas where it's stuck together. Look at the flow of red blood cells here. This is an active flow of red blood cells. These are the ones that we just pulled out of Madison's jaw from underneath of her infected tooth. White blood cells. You can see red blood cells. It's called macrophages. There's a lot of migration going on right there. So a lot of these are just healthy red blood cells. The big white dots that you see are called macrophages. This is a part of the immune system that goes in and cleans up foreign pathogens.


Okay, so here's another question. Are there any teeth that we should be concerned about that lead to other behaviors of his?


Yeah. Should we be pulling- She wants to pull them all out.


She does need some more dental work today, so you tell me the symptoms, we can figure it out. There's a lot of symptoms.


Do you have a couple of days?


They might all be.


Coming out. We call anesthesiologist. You didn't eat or drink anything today. Yeah. But also the cool part, after there was a lot of blood, the fresh red blood, when I was happy, I told you, Now it's bleeding. Right now, and you saw it on the screen, we swabbed your blood again, and we could compare it. What did you see on there?


Yeah, that was beautiful. I actually showed the slide afterwards. I showed the slide with the pocket of bacteria. Then I also showed the blood sample afterwards. You could just see these beautiful, cylindrical red blood cells, slithering around, bouncing off of each other. There was lots of mobility in there. There were no parasites, there were no bacteria, there were no white blood cells anywhere on the slide. You could see that the infection and the parasitic colonies were gone, and even the white blood cells were no longer at that site. It's so gnarly to talk about it and to think about it. It's even more gnarly for me to know that it was in my body. But since then, I can tell you what else was odd was my nose ran for.


A few days. We had another tooth we worked on, too.


Afterwards it cleared up and I felt amazing. I called him for a week. I was texting him every day. I'm like, Dude, I feel amazing.


I always feel amazing. Say to me a thank you message because you kept going like. I wasn't doing that anymore. There's a lot happening in here. You didn't feel any symptoms on the top right as well. None. I was like, Dude, we're taking this tooth out. You're like, Why? You had a huge infection there.


That's why. It's a contained infection. There's no swelling. There's no pain. There's no inflammation. You're eating food fine. You don't feel any pressure or dullness or anything. People that have had these root canals done could very well have these colonies. They could. How do they get that checked out?


A 3D scan. 3d scan. 3d scan. You check the 3D scan, you can look at the different densities. Every scan is different, set up, like different than the manufacturer. But you can see that you traced the root. We did that for every single one of your teeth. Traced the root all the way down into the bone and look at all three different directions. You start seeing a bubble there, you got to start questioning it.


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So somebody's listening to this and they're like, Okay, I'm going to try to find a biologic dentist in my area because I've had root canals done in the past. I have some of the symptoms you guys are talking about brain fog, weight gain, water retention, memory issues, or even worse, I have a neurodegenerative condition that they don't know the root cause of. When they contact that dentist, they want to say, Do you do 3D scans?


Correct. Okay. They can find these capitations. Majority of dentists should be doing 3D scans now. There's some that don't, but majority do. If they're asymptomatic, have no illnesses, nothing, then at least now you know there's something there and keep an eye on it. That's what we tell patients. You have choices here. Do nothing, take it out, retreat it, and your choice is yours. It's your body, your choice, right? But if you're having symptoms-If you're having symptoms, question it. Don't pop a medication. Don't take Ibupofen or painkillers or rheumatoid arthritis meds when it can be something that's linked, right? Because then you're going down the pill road, your liver and kidneys are going to become shot. You brought up a good point where your pain, you didn't take any opiids afterwards, any painkillers afterwards?




That's the thing. That's the beauty of doing a process like this, because we got your own blood to bleed again. Instead of just packing some gauze in there and say, Hey, off you go. Because your tooth was out literally 30 seconds. Could have just packed some gauze and like, Hey, next patient. But here we spent the time making sure everything was really done well and you felt the energy. I was like, I know now I got everything.


Yeah, I know. It felt amazing. You did my daughter. You're actually doing both of my daughters and my wife. Everybody's getting this done. Everybody, my family. The other thing that I'm going to post for these guys to look at them, I'm going to post a link to this Meridian chart. Yes. What about.


Your tooth right now? Sorry to throw you out there. The one I cracked? Yeah, the one you cracked. Now I'm curious which tooth that is and what.


Symptoms- That's tooth number 30. That's the same tooth, the other side.


Yeah, but just cracked.


It, so it's not-That could be right side, yeah. Okay. It just cracked. There is some black area around it, which shouldn't be black. A tooth should not be black. A tooth is stronger than bone, 2.5 times stronger than bone in animal, right? Then we got the dentin layer underneath, and then you got the cementum, which is the root, right?




But a tooth should not be black. If you had a bone that was black, there's a problem. Right. Right now, part of your tooth is black. We have to see if that's the materials that we use, the bonding agents, if that's decay, or it's actually leading to something more.


And here's the crazy thing. I actually take really good care of my teeth. I flush on a regular basis. I have a tongue scraper. I brush my teeth with non-fluoride toothpaste, which I want to get into fluoride with you in a moment. Again, this goes beyond dental hygiene, and this goes to these mainly dental procedures that you've had in the past. But I'm definitely going to post this Meridian chart because this was the thing that really blew my mind. I literally canceled a vacation and came up the next day.


Yes, you were into the Cabba. I did the Cabba. I'm like, No, you.


Need to come up here. I was like, Remember? Oh, yeah, that's right.


I was going to Cabba. Yeah, you were in Cabba already, and you and Madison flew up. She was.


Like, Yeah, you go get your tooth pulled. I'm going to Cabba. I'm going to be. She still bailed on me.


But with you. Only one person needs to be able to-.


Yeah, I took my other daughter who had a bunk tooth and we went to New York and got our teeth full. Now, today we're back in New York, and three of us are getting teeth today. I'm so funny.


Fixes Reddit.


Paulina is getting a tooth, Sage is getting a tooth, I'm getting a tooth. Does anybody else? You want to tooth, Max?


The one that you're fixing for me is I went in and had a crack and they did a root canal on me. Then when I went back in to get the cap on it, I guess, they saw a microscopic section or something. It cracked, I guess, and they couldn't cap it. They pulled it. I remember asking him, I don't think I want a root canal. Just pull it. If we're going to potentially have to get there anyway, just yank it out. But he was like, No, root canal is way better. He talked me into the root canal. Part of me is glad that it all just needed to come out anyway because I could potentially be having issues.


Correct. That's the thing. We give patients the option, right? They have their choice. I won't do it. You're forced into it. Someone else can do that if they want to. But for me, I know what works in my hands and what I see the results of the patient. I wish I had known them. That's the best way to see the patients could come in, they're sick, and all of a sudden, they're healing, they're well. They're not curing everything 100 % because if you've been sick for a long period of time, it needs to reverse. It's going to run its course. It's not like an instant fix. Yours was just starting, and it was like, Hey, let's hammer it before it takes longer. Because we were talking about it for a while, but I'm like, Dude, that's it.


Tell me about some of the cases you've seen where these things have, you've seen other conditions resolve in a patient after having- Got it.


You can go with breast cancer, right? You got the lower molars and upper premolars are linked to breast cancer. Okay. And if there's no genetic history at all and there's no genes at all that lead to breast cancer, but yet those teeth have dental work done on them. The bronchie gene? Yeah, and they had dental work done on them, and then they're infected, and all of a sudden the patient has comes out with cancer. I have no thought of that. I'm curious. If we can work as a team, like oncologists, Hey, let's work as a team, instead of like, No, just do the cancer therapy. But now the patient can't eat. They're miserable. They have infections in their jawbone. The problem is that the dentist is the last person to see in this whole group. The dentist needs to be at the top of the game here. Everyone needs to quarterback this thing. Right. Right. Okay, well, disease-free in the mouth, all the bad stuff is out. Okay, now if you got to get the chemo, you got to do the radiation, go ahead, do it. Whatever it is, do it. But at least you got the toxins out.


Well, if you leave all these toxins in there where they're accumulating and the Meridian Pathways, this is ancient Chinese medicine, 4,000 or 5,000 years. That's proven, right? And all of a sudden, it's like they go, it stops. It's not progressive.


It's insane. I don't think it's any...


It's no accident. The exact same oral bacteria that is found in these cavitations. By the way, cavitations is an area where if you've had a root canal and you've got dead tissue.


This cavitation- or.


Toothpull, this area where there's dead tissue is an area where all these bacteria and pathogens gather, and we call it a cavitatione. But the identical bacteria is found in cardiovascular disease in the heart. And if you look at how the mouth drains too, right into the heart. So it's very easy for bacteria to migrate there. I don't want to fear monger everybody.


No, the root canals work, right? If someone's in acute pain, you got to do it. You got to get the person out of pain. It works, right? The problem is it starts to break down. No matter how good anything is, the human body breaks down, things are going to break down. The maintenance, if it's broken down, it's not treated, pathogens are going to seep in. The mouth is the dirtiest place in the body. It's really dirty. At the end of the day, there's so much bacteria. Even though it doesn't matter how much you clean, flush, mouth rinse, whatever it is. We're working, we need a watertight seal. If the seal is broken, everything is going... Again, each tooth has a nerve, artery, vein, lymphatic system, but it should be closed off one end. Remember, the thing that's sticking up in your mouth is a bone. You don't have a bone anywhere else sticking out. If you did, you'd be in pain. If your tibia were sticking out, you were like, Holy cow, this hurts. But you're not with your tooth. That's the only place in the body. Now if there's an issue with it, it's going to get into a nerve, and from that it's going into the bone.


Now it's spreading. We need to catch it before it gets there.


Let's talk about things that we can do to prevent that. I also want to talk to you about your stance on fluoride. I've done a lot of posts and discussions about fluorides that have been proven to be a neurotoxin. There was a recent study that was published looking at 3,600 municipalities across the country and actually finding an inverse correlation between fluoride and IQ, meaning the higher the concentration of fluoride in the water, the lower the IQ in those municipal locations. If you want to see that study, I'll put it on the podcast as well. I know when I was growing up, they would put that little - Fluoride. -fitting in your mouth, and you would get a fluoride treatment, and it had that that awful punchy taste.


Then you could pick your flavor. I remember.


Remember Yes, it's all flavored.


It was like really flavored medicine. It was terrible. Like really shitty cough syrup. What's your position on fluoride or using fluoride toothpaste or not using toothpaste that doesn't have fluoride.


In it? For me personally, I use fluoride-free toothpaste, fluoride-free mouthwash.


I'm happy to.


Hear that. 100%. Fluoride is an electron stealer. It's stealing from everywhere else it needs. It's very reactive because it's in the same same periodic column, Bromide. It's the same area. It's very reactive. The biggest issue that we face is that if someone's coming in with a mouth full of cavities, we have nothing else in our arsenal. If they're not changing their diet, their lifestyle is not changing.




Teeth, your nutrition is garbage. You need teeth to chew. You can't mask it. You can't mask it. Even if you have dentures, you're still not chewing. People are like, I chew with my dentures. Sure. How much are you really chewing your food? You're trying to get these nice, sharp teeth to really crush things, break things apart and really grind and chew. It's functional, right? Because there's a joint that's holding your teeth, hold up this joint in the muscles. Now back to the floor problem is, if someone's coming with a lot of cavities, we have nothing else in our arsenal. If they're not doing their home care, if they're going to change their home care, they change their diet, they change their lifestyle, then we don't need to.




We got to pick and choose. Sure. Yes. Does it work for patients patients who it? Yes. What I'm seeing now, we probably see a lot of patients a month, but maybe one, maybe two patients a month with the rampant decay.


Is there a reason for that? Is it hereditary? Do people always hear like, Soft teeth get more cavities?


If they had soft teeth, the rest of their bones would be soft. Okay. It's something that you mentioned earlier before we started the podcast. Someone mentioned to to you, soft teeth, right? Or you or a family member would have soft teeth. But no, that was just something something a said to somebody. If your teeth were that soft, you would literally have other diseases going on. Right. Because bone, right? You got to break it down. What is a tooth? It's bone. It's stronger than bone, right? Right?


Why do some kids I've had one cavity in my entire life. Some kids, although I did get told by a dentist after I had my daughter that I had had cavities out of nowhere because he tried to convince me that since I was breastfeeding my daughter, she was sucking all my nutrients out, and Oh, my God. God. Almost got me for for cavities.


Well, I'm glad you didn't go that road. You got a second opinion. What I like to do is always take photos. I need the patient on the same page as me. Here are photos of your teeth. Even if some patient like, I don't want to see see it. A photo of your tooth. This is is plan for this tooth. Each tooth has its own individual plan. The 32 teeth, 32 individual plans. This is how we're going to get everything better. Soft teeth, I don't believe in in them. A genetic condition, very rare. But does it work for some patients? Yeah, because they're not going to change their lifestyle. I heard you'd say say it when you talk about the cold cold plunge. There was a pill, people would do it. Who would be willing to go through that? Right? Right. And that's the same exact thing. It's like, here's not a pill, but here's the cream, here's a toothpaste. It's a lot easier than changing the diet and lifestyle. Right.


Well, I will tell you my own personal experience was that the procedure was not as nearly as painful as I thought it was going to be. Like I said, I experienced a pain level level of The aftermath was extraordinary for both me and my daughter, Madison. We both experienced the same thing, like more energy, like sinuses didn't feel congested, the shoulder, the lobe pain and the toe toe issue. It's your issue toe. Went away. It hasn't come back since. The point that I really want to emphasize is that people can find a biologic dentist in their area, and at least go get it checked out if they're having some of these kinds.


Of symptoms.


Correct. You would recommend that they do that?


100%. At least this way you know what's going on, right? Then you don't have to proceed right away. You can at least know like, Hey, I have a game plan now. If something happens or something leads this way, you question your physician, you question your doctors. The biggest thing for me is instead of using Google to figure out your symptoms, go go to Go to PubMed, get the articles, and then take it to your doctors. Hey, it says this online. And when you say online, no, it's actually PubMed articles. What do you think about it? Because they'll respect that over- Yeah, exactly. Web MD or just Google or they say, Oh, my friend said this.


Here's the proof. Proof. That must be your favorite.


You do that, I think it makes a huge difference. Because now it's like, we're not doing it. There's no weird stuff. Science. Just science.


Literally. That's my term. I think it might be trade, Mark.


Just science is.


Your term? That's just science.


I end every podcast with that's just science.


What other type of modalities are you using that other practices practices not that you think are different and helpful and, I don't know, cutting edge, I guess.




-biologic. So PRF, like using your own blood, we use the concentrate, and then we also make the membranes from there. The The fiber. Fiber. Yeah, the plate-rich fiber. And we're using the lasers. There's different lasers. I have six different lasers in the office. We have lasers every room. That's the operatory, we use a laser. It's a daily thing we're using our practice because we know it helps. It's killing the bugs, the bad bugs, and then it's helping the tissue grow. It's painless. It's painless. The recovery helps. That's the thing. It's how quickly can we help a patient heal? We're going to create inflammation. But if we take the inflammation and the bad markers out of there.




The good markers, the body can heal. We just offset it quicker. The lasers, then we're using a lot of ozone. The ozone, again, it's an extra oxygen. There's three oxygens, highly reactive. As soon as it finds a bug, it's killing it because it's a negative charge.


Then it's only leaving oxygen, gas, that's what's left left over.


Goes into into bloodstream, that's Which you need need oxygen, life, right?


You think of all this porous bone, and it's like, How do I get down in there and get after all those little bugs? I mean, gas, ozone, gas can get down in there, and actually it's it's and bactericidal, meaning it'll kill the bacteria and kill the pathogens.


And just not bacteria, parasites, fungus, viruses. It's drilling a hole in those cell walls because there's no antioxidants there, right? Right. So it's going to kill it, annihilate.


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That's great. I actually have another study here, and this was specifically on the effect of laser therapy, and this is red light lasers. I'm a huge believer in in photo-bio red light therapy, sun exposure, things like that for reducing inflammation and optimal health. But this is about red light lasers and their use in cytokine concentration. So markers of inflammation, specifically in the jaw, and also that it stimulates angiogenesis and fibroblast proliferation. And angiogenesis is the new blood vessel growth.


Collagen. Yeah. There you go.


After this procedure, you're actually strengthening the bone, strengthening the gums, strengthening the jaw by restoring all of this.


Blood flow. Yeah. Then I gave you red lights to go home with, and what I tell tell you? Shine it on that area.


He gave me a red light.


Yeah, he came home with all his little boxes of toys. I'm telling you, he was literally like a little kid when he got.


To travel. But it works. It totally works. It healed so fast. It was astounding. Madison and I, my daughter and I, we call each other every day. I'm like, Do you have any pain? She's like, No, I don't have any pain either. She's like, Dad, it's totally healed. I don't feel like I have.


The procedure done. I still told you to take it easy for a week because knowing you- you-.






Happen. But see, that's the thing. We get patients off of meds, meds, painkillers. I was going to say- We're getting them off of meds. That's a passion of mine. Mine. Well, don't need to be on meds. Like dentistry, it's like, All right, fine, take a a but let's get rid of the opioids. Opioids. Right. And we can do that, and you you had major surgery, Yeah. And usually it's like, here you go, opioids. Yeah.


I didn't have any of those.


Yeah, and we're in Cabo where he literally could have gone to a pharmacy. They would have just hand delivered him whatever he needed.


Yeah, but I remember I.


Was down. You didn't need anything.


Yeah, I didn't need anything. Yeah, it was impressive. I really appreciate that. Is there anything else that you think these guys need to to know, need to.


Cover before before we- of my mentors always says, if it's metal or dead, get out of your head. It's true. It's one of those things. If it's causing a blockage or causing inflammation, just like when you go to the dentist, have them look at the tissue. The tissue gives you everything. Even if you had no X-ray, like if I didn't take any X-ray, I could tell you you have inflammation here and you have inflammation here. Now let's deep dive into why you have inflammation there. Take the scan. Okay, it shows. Now we can correlate them. There's no reason why your gum tissue should not be nice and healthy. Right. Even if you have dental work and your gums are puffy, question it. Don't just say, Okay, well, that's normal.


It shouldn't be normal. The big takeaway, the reason why I share my personal story is the big takeaway is that I had no pain, no inflammation, no swelling, no pressure, no symptoms in my jaw at all other than my tooth was starting to change color. But it was completely painless, and I put it off forever until you sent me that chart and it correlated to all those symptoms. That's when I canceled my trip to Cabo, went up and had it it done. Of those symptoms have gone gone away. Really would encourage folks that are listening to this podcast if they have a loved one that's suffering from a neurodegenerative disorder of any kind, or they have brain fog, muscle aches, weight gain, water retention, poor short term recall, and they've had dental work done recently or in the past, especially a root canal. It's not a big deal to go get it checked out by one of these 3D imaging devices and at least to see if you have a a Now, are these cavitations these pockets of bacteria and pathogens, are they visible on the kinds of-.


You can see the difference in the bone density. Correct. Then you start questioning you play detective work, you say, Okay, when was this tooth taken out? If it wasn't taken out, why is there an issue there? Did you get your sister who had childhood childhood injury saw it on a 2D image on there, and I questioned it, like why she had a mark in her jawbone still.


Yeah, it was very specific, too, because when he went through my X-rays and my images, you could see that there was a pocket of some sort in there underneath my tooth, in the one that was affected and it happened to be the one that was discolored. Those of you that really want to see the gnarly.


Video, I'm going.


To post it on my Instagram, the full video. It's all shot in high res. Dr. Ghani talks us through the whole procedure. So if you want to see what the entire journey was like, you're welcome to look at the journey. The coolest thing is that slide where you you actually my white blood cells going after pathogens and the parasites and the bacteria. I just could not get over the fact that that was sitting in my jaw. Even though I eat clean water, I drink clean water.


You detox your whole body. You detox your whole body. Body.


Yeah, he's on I'm pretty on my game.


But you got to imagine you had inflammation.


I'm using red light, I'm using cold plunging, I exercise, I get enough sleep, and yet this was going on. On. So if you're really practicing good oral hygiene, you may.


Have some-That's the other thing. If someone's going through a whole detox and they have inflammation in their mouth, there's no way the mouth is going to be acidic. There's too many toxins. You're going to relapse. Then you're going to say, Well, my sister did a detox, or my friend did it. It worked for them. It's not working for me. Now you give up. The reason why the detox is not working because there's things going on right here. Here.




And that's not handled, then that's the problem. Problem.


So Well, this has been amazing. I super appreciate your time today. Today. Appreciate I can't say that I'm excited to get my tooth yanked, but.


I'm getting it done. I'm excited to get mine put in. What are you going to use? What are you.


Going to use to- We're going to use a ceramic implant there. -ceramic? Okay, very cool. Cool. We will follow your journey, too. If we put a temporary on there. If we put a temporary on there or not today, we'll see just depending on the the stability, you did have the tooth taken out a while ago, so I still want to clean clean the jawbone. Now, again, I didn't do the surgery for you, taking the tooth out. I'm still going to use the same protocol as we did for Gary, cleaning cleaning the jawbone, make sure everything's healthy before putting putting implant in there. It's not just like a 1, 2, 3 surgery. Even though you have the bone, you need to see what's still lurking in there. If it's still in there, we're going to clean it out, make it fresh bone, let it bleed, and then go ahead and put the implant.


In there. Yeah. I end every podcast by asking my guests the same question. There's no right or wrong answer to this, but I ask every guest the same question. What does it mean to you to be an ultimate human?


It means to wake up every every wanting to get out of bed, not hitting the the snooze button, in life, doing everything you can to the full max. There's no stoppage, no barriers, there's mental clarity, and there's no aches and pains getting in your way.


Wow. I like it. That's a good one. That is a good one. I don't think I've ever asked you that question. Maybe we'll do that on a podcast. You might say your husband. I do.


Want one of those hoodies.


Merch is going to be available online very soon. Merch is coming soon. But guys, if you were inspired by this podcast as I I and it was a very inspirational journey for for I'm going to document the entire thing on Instagram. As I said before, if you're not in the Long Island area in New York and can't come see Dr. Gandhi, then then biologic dentist in your area, because I really encourage encourage if you're having any of those symptoms or a loved one's having those symptoms to have a biologic dentist, check you out. And as always, that's just science.


No weird stuff, just science. There you go.